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Kavita Chhibber - August 30, 2005

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I had an interesting conversation with Dr Deepak Chopra today as part of the story I’m doing on intentblog. While sharing his thoughts on this venture, he said one of the reasons he wanted to start this, was to reach out to Indians. At most places where he speaks, Dr Chopra says he finds he attracts a very meager number of South Asians.

I remember reading Dr Chopra’s book Quantum Healing a few years ago and getting hooked. I have this habit of devouring everything on and by the author who catches my attention. Over the years, I have always felt that most of the hundreds of Indians I know, admire him. They say he is the Ravi Shankar of Indian spirituality, showcasing the ancient Indian treasures of holistic healing and mind/body connection on a global forum. But just as Ravi Shankar’s detractors have made the allegations that Ravi Shankar sold his musical soul to the west, (and nothing could be farther from the truth) Dr. Chopra’s detractors claim that he has done the same with his.

Personally I have enjoyed his amazing gifts as a writer and a speaker, and read most of what he has written, even his jab at fiction, a romantic novel called Soul mates, which didn’t quite do it for me. The spiritual Guru may want to stick to safer grounds, I teased. He took my comment in his stride with the same grace that he seems to have taken all the brickbats hurled at him, some of them on this very blog.
He is a man of contradictions. He said to me the key to success is to practice detachment, and yet I saw the immense passion with which he spoke about the things that matter to him, the fact that he is willing to take flak and stand up for what he believes in is not a detached decision. And I’m sure the positive energy he receives when he makes a difference is something that touches his heart, just as injustice or ignorance makes him more passionate to try and reach out to a “critical mass’ (one of my favorites from his vocabulary!) And offer to help.
This very contradiction makes him human, and that is why I like him.
But that’s my opinion. What about you?

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Posted by Kavita Chhibber at August 30, 2005 06:51 PM

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When I saw Deepak on stage, he appeared confident, knowledgeable -- and wonderful. When I had the brief opportunity to see him enter a house where he was a guest, and introduce himself to two strangers, he appeared shy, gentle -- and wonderful. I hope he comes back to the Midwest soon so I can see him again. Patzi


Greetings. I think he meant that one should practice detachment from the fruits of ones labor, and not detachment from what one has chosen(been chosen?) to do. I am a South Asian guy that agrees with most of what he has to say, and I also like his book Soul Mates very Much:)) It bears a lot of resemblance to my own life in a matter of speaking.

Well, I heard Deepak's name before....but you know we Indians have seen a lot of gurus and the like..so there is no instant attraction. Probably that explains why less Indians are attracted. Its not novelty for us...does not mean we know our spirituality. Far from it...but spirituality has been relegated to a 'common' thing for Indians (again, I dont mean to say we are enlightened..infact we are so 'through' with spirituality that we are super materialistic now).

In this context, I was reading up the Intent of this Intent blog. May be I am being negative here...but I really did not feel that 'cool' about some statements in there. For e.g.

"Our goal with INTENT is to participate in the creation of a paradigm where the old values of militarism, ethnocentrism, nationalism, and cultural and economic imperialism will become obsolete. We feel that people from Asia and India, in a vast and spread out diaspora across the globe, are poised to emerge as the new leaders who will inspire, educate, entertain, and enlighten humanity to a new level of awareness and a new expression of its potential."

For me, the first sentence and the second sentence fight with each other. While claiming no cultural or ethocentrism...the second sentence goes on to proclaim that we will be the leaders.

I can explain myself more on what I see as the fight between these two sentences...but I guess those who will get my point will get it by reading the above two sentences anyway..and those who wont..will not get it..so no point explaining -:) (unless somebody wants to ask me).

Dear Kavita,

Some of this I have said before on this blog. First of all, I just happen to be in the middle of "Soulmates" and am having a hard time putting it down.....got a large smile on my face as I read about one character named "Joanie, a single mom" as described....so different strokes for different folks as they say.

I am not Asian, but just a middle class white person who happened onto this site. I feel honored to learn about a culture I knew very little about. I have a greater respect for many new things since.

I always had known Deepak's name, but never read his books until this past year. At the Soul of Leadership conference here in Maryland months back, I so enjoyed myself and came out with such self confirmation. He is such a knowledgable man and everything seemed to just make so much sense.

I believe in spiritual guides and many years ago (like 20) was taught how to find them. I did then, but for many years did not avail myself of them. Now that I am going thru a new part of my life, they are back with a new awareness.

Ironically one is a woman in a sari whose name is Sariah who always holds a baby named Lee (just came to me years back). I never really thought about why I visioned these guides...but now believe that i was meant to be here and learn more about this culture, for whatever reason.

I don't think Deepak necessarily always teaches us something new, I think that he teaches us what we already have inside, but may need to find it and use what is within. (Hope this makes sense). If one avails themselves of his tools, there is such a wakening of self that is extremely powerful, at least to me.

It makes me sad that there seems to be some disrespect going on here on the blog. I think there is a way to disagree with people without being hostile. I hope that people catch themselves with the hostility and are able to realize that we are all her together on this planet and need to stick together on our mission of peace...sometimes the road up the mountain gets a little rocky, but when we get to the top, how wonderful the view will be with peace.

Good luck with your story.

http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup-frame.html

Joanie

Kavita: Any great teacher or leader can sometimes be measured by the number of detractors he/she has, and the velocity with which that one is opposed by same; sometimes as much as one can be measured by the number of supporters one has, if not more on certain "flash points."

The closer he gets to the truth--the more vehement will be the reaction by his/her oppostition.

I remeber a classmate of mine in high school, here in Colorado, named Gary Reinking. Gary was very good at many things; scholastically, musically and artistically, but he was particularly adept in the sport of hockey.

He was sooo....good, as a skater and "puck handler," teammate, but particulary as a genuinely classy sportsman--that opposing teams would gang up on him with no other motive than to rile him and throw him off balance. He seemed never to get "ruffled" under virtually any circumstances, and his scoring capabilities were, at times, single-handedly devasting to opposing teams

I remember one game that was leading the victorious team on to qualifying for the state finals--with scouts who were making choices for college or pro-offers, but where the focus of the game, as demonstrated by the opposing team, turned not to playing to the height of an individual's or the team's collective abilities, but solely to stopping Gary's momentum at any cost.

The referees and the audience watched this activity go on to the point of ridiculousness--until, for the first time I ever saw Gary break--not physically or mentally--but emotionally, in heartbreaking frustration, where he finally just skated off the rink with tears in his eyes--during the final quarter.

He just stopped and skated off as he realized the game could not go on as it was and still be considered a demonstration of the sport he so loved.

He saw himself as having become "the problem," instead of representing the great sportsmans he was--it was the very nature of his fabric to be so, above any other consideration of winning-and-losing.

What he did stopped the game, and the players of both teams, the refs, and the audience, in a way no one would have expected from his unbeatable skill and temperance--he refused to fight against the insane attacks coming at him, in a game known for it's accepted level of sometimes violent aggression.

I had never yet witnessed such a level of personal courage from any athlete, in any sport, in high school competition, as I saw my friend display in those moments, with those tears coming down his cheeks as he moved off the rink, by his own choice.

It didn't take long before the entire energy of the arena was turned to the equivalent of a "standing ovation," which eventually drew Gary back from the locker room, and where the captain of the opposing team lead several of his teammates to "escort" Gary back onto the ice, with members of "our" team joining in.

And as expected, "our" team won--but really, everybody won, after experiencing that change in attitude.

A few years later, I heard Gary qualified for the Olympic trials for the U.S. Hockey team--I beleive, however, he turned down the offer for the try-outs to go on with his academic pursuits.

The direction of Gary's post-high-school days I am uncertain of, however, I knew beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt that night, that I witnessed the actions and demeanor of what a true champion was like--when faced with an opposition composed of human insanity.

In my favorite book, "The Nine Faces of Christ," one of the greatest Hindu Yogins I have ever heard about, a man named Bomachari Ramanchana, gave as his final teaching to his greatest student, Jeshua, Joseph-bar-Joseph, this teaching: Learn to be detached in your attachment, and learn to be attached in your detachment!

Possibly the most classic Catch-22 a human initiate can ever learn to master in this world of endless dualities, N'est Pas?

I find it both amusing and ridiculous that people claim that Deepak is doing and teaching what he does, for the purposes of extracting excessive and unwarranted financial remuneration, and from unsuspecting and guillable "suckers" who haven't the intelligence to watch out for themselves (also called "profiteering").

I would guesstimate that he could have long ago retreated to a paradisical island, with offshore accounts suitable for the requirements of an endlessly luxuriant life--if he so chose. Instead--he continues to teach, in spite of the negativity he encounters.

Such claims are more reflective of the notion: Consider the source(s) from which the comment(s) come--rather than the target of their aim!

I find that Deepak is willing to strive to achieve and maintaim the balance given in the above admonition--to ever the greatest of students, from one of history's greatest teachers--and reamin completely vulnerable in doing so.

Ultimate Vulnerability--Now that is said to be the "Name of the Game," when it comes to qualifying for Spirit's discernment that one is ready to go the distance for the sake of both personal enlightenment, and....lifting humanity's collective consciousness simultaneously--without regard to outcome or personal benefit!

I mean, did anybody notice that Wayne Dyer wrote a book called, "A Promise is A Promise," at his own expense, and then donated all the proceeds to supporting the efforts of those who are the subjects of the book!

That is what I see Deepak Chopra and Wayne Dyer, and their friends doing; by their actions, words, and deeds--and So Be It!

But then again: A man (or woman!) sees what he/she wants to see, and disregards the rest--or so the song goes!

The "quantum world also seems to verify this 'Observer' effect!" Sincerely and respectfully, with much Love to you all--Dave

ultimately i wonder if it matters less who a man speaks to than what he speaks of.

Great story David, just as wonderful and inspiring as many of your responses have been.
I think as I research aspects of my story, what is wonderful to see is the diversity, depth and vibrance of responses. Even the ones that seem negative, have really made me think.
May this community continue to grow!

Hi Kavi,
You have confused the deepak the self image for the real deepak which is the unconditioned spirit. He has repeatedly stated that we are divinity in disguise. So can we all stop confusing the roles for the actors and just enjoy the play. It is my humble oppinion that there is ony one way to solve all problems of life, to become aware that life is an illusion. Every attempt to fix something is to give reality to something that is not real in the first place.


cheers,
murali

I think getting detached doesn't mean that you don't care, it means that you don't get obsessed meaning that you have no expectation. So you you are not emotionally attached to any outcome or issue but are aware of it and speak of it.
We have heard the phrase "Love is letting go". To me that means being detached is being love and when DC cares about the root issues he is being love because he is detached.

Hello Kavita and thank you for this opportunity.

Just a little on myself, only because the story is really about the kind of impact Deepak is able to have on people like myself living in South Asia. I was born a Muslim in Pakistan and used to head an organization there, working against child sexual abuse and prostitution. Being the first organization of its kind in Pakistan I didn’t have any local examples to learn from and so I turned to India as it was culturally similar. It was during these visits that within the NGO sector (of all places) I met an amazing woman who went on to become an ardent disciple of Deepak and was transformed by him in unimaginable ways. Though her exposure to him lasted barely seven days, she then proceeded to translate his wisdom for me and several others which led to my transformation. To cut a long story short it should suffice to say that so inspired was I by her wisdom (his wisdom) that I have been living in India for the last two years, find it difficult now to define myself as either Pakistani/Indian/Muslim or Activist for that matter, just someone trying to share the wisdom I receive/d with whoever I can (my teacher runs a healing center now in Delhi) and continuing to journey towards gaining a deeper understanding of truth, life and the infinite. I revere Deepak as both grand master and rishi of wisdom and compassion and feel very blessed to be part of his infinite field of connectivity.

As someone of Asian descent who has been transformed by Deepak’s wisdom and has also seen many others undergo life changing experiences through his teachings I humbly submit my opinion on his feeling that he attracts very few South Asians.

1) I don’t think that Deepak is very visible in South Asia. I know that if it hadn’t been for this one woman, I may never have come across him.
2) He hasn’t really been marketed well in India/South Asia and its unfortunate because there is a growing need for Masters like him who speak to the modern mind.
3) Personally, what is really appealing about Deepak is his scientific reasoning, his casual persona (no typical guru trimmings), his humility, accessibility (intentblog included) and his compassion. That he belongs to this land mass and translates ancient wisdom sans hysteria and fanaticism.
4) As a South Asian I found Deepak’s writing to be largely geared towards a western audience and that has at times made it difficult for me to access his writings until I read the Book of Secrets. I don’t think I (and many others who I have been exposed to) would have accessed him if we had not found an ‘Indian’ interpreter.
5) Deepak runs no center here and his public appearances are rare. I think many people just don’t know how to access him here.
6) There are an increasing number of people in South Asia (especially the younger generation) who are rejecting the din of saffron or white robed evangelists but are not being able to find a replacement. Someone who address their ‘modern crises’, someone who is liberal and not damning. Someone who they can relate to. Deepak is all of this.
7) Yes, this blog is a good attempt at bringing Deepak closer to home but I see two problems with it….firstly many of the active south Asians on it (writers and posters) seem to be living abroad which creates a slightly different context for debate and dialogue and demands that one be aware of the west and its culture to be able to participate. Secondly given its limited outreach and selective audience there are many many more who he needs to reach out to.

I really do think that South Asia is ripe and ready for Deepak and that his presence extremely necessary to fill the fast growing gap created by the modern mind’s need to move on from the old ways in which religion is being propounded here to a more modern, all encompassing and scientific view of spirituality. I sincerely hope that we will see much more of Deepak in South Asia in the years to come. We await the return of the Rishi.

hi kavita,
We share names. and maybe a few thoughts on deepak chopra. But like I mentioned elsewhere on thi site, perhaps Deepak will have the last laugh on all of this. While all of us use precious energy dissecting, shredding, analysinghim (his work) he has already immortalised himself by virtue of his thoughts.Secondly, A comment on the intent of intent. Vivekananda (swami vivekananda, a disciple to swami ramakrishna paramhansa, to the uninitiated) was the FIRST to venture into this field of a common world intent as far back as early 1900s,in usa among other countries. In fact when I read Deepak ,I feel the energy of Vivekananda creeping in HIS WRITING. I am sure Deepak has read him in depth. Vivekanda was blessed to take vedanta to the masses. And deepak is carrying on the mantle GLORIOUSLY. perhaps this blog is only a fructification of a vision seeing long ago by the Swami. nothing happens in vain after all

It was already mentioned in the Christmas story:
three wise men from the East. To me they were and are: Vivekananda, Maharishi and Deepak Chopra. I read books of all three of them and they have profoundly changed my life, together with Jesus :)
Mieke

find the "DEEPAK CHOPRA" that is in you.

cheers,
murali

Dear Kavita
Great question!I live in India and look upon Deepak(whom I have always wanted to call Rishivar, but he won't let me)as my living Master.Only to separate him from the myriad no-longer-in-their-body sources from which I have received spiritual guidance and abundance after HE guided me to the realm of unified consciousness.I grew up reading spiritual texts, especially the Guru Granth Sahib, under the oceanic wisdom of my Sikh father. There was a deep, karmic thirst within me and I even toyed with the idea of searching for a Guru one day, however schooled in rich Indian traditions of wisdom, I never thought to look for him to the west. As mentioned by others the intellect was fairly disparaging to 'wisdom packaged for the western audience.' Little did I know then, that my first real step on the path would begin by torpedoeing my artifice and deflating my ego. I had heard of Deepak and his books but refused to engage with them(western guru oh no!!!). A friend in England actually offered to pay my way for his workshop, I was appalled, someone got me a tape for my car, I escaped saying it was too 'mental'. Finally life wore me down with my many 'oh so mental' pursuits, and exhausted me enough to begin wondering about 'where can I find me a Guru?' Saffron robes never did it for me, but somewhere the desire and the exhaustion was so sincere that Deepak walked in (improbability quotients of infinity ruled the place, space and time of our paths crossing)smack into my resistant life. Synchrodestiny as he explains it, then made everything natural, karmic and crystal. In fact the actual events make such a story that Deepak actually told it at his Seduction of Spirt workshop and for me it has become my favourite tale and recant of the Vedic prophecy , "when the disciple is ready the Guru finds him/her."

Off I went(still struggling with my intellect) to his seven day course. I don't know what to make of the recent storm in the posts here over the Biblical reference to 'God created the world in seven 24 hour days' but Deepak unlocked the infinte within me in seven 24 hour days. Hmmm...so what,does that makes the Bible right, or does that just make Deepak God????That was nearly five years ago.

Beyond this, it is not posible to speak about the journey, his being or the alchemy of transformation that he is able to trigger. I would rather speak about the concept of a Master. Many look upon him as a great speaker, so all they manage to do is collect his words, others look upon him as a scientific mind safe in the sea of spiritual esoteric, that is what they take home. Others, both in India and (from the posts) in the west are fascinated by his ability to make money, access the powerful and articulate the controversial with alacrity, and that's what binds them to him. Then there are those who see him as a threat to their fragile religiousity and intellectual refuges (ah their virulent posts!) and so he is the enemy.

So who is Deepak really! All of these and more. In my humble understanding and through my long (but internmittent)association he is every bit the "unified field of consciousness which radiates infinite potential." For himself and for all who encounter him. I guess its something about the Master in his/her true essence being nothing but an empty mirror. You look upon him to see yourself reflected exactly as you are. The desire and the receptivity lies with the viewer not the mirror.

Many in India, like me, will respond to the voice which is ringing in the continum of Rishis and immutable spiritual wisdom. Where the voice is located geographically, whether it flies first class or carries high-tech communicators will just add to the marvel and majesty of Leela. For them his impact will be nothing short of life transforming.

I'm sorry for taking so much space and being long-winded, but thank you for giving me the space to articulate the wonder of what he makes possible. I would like to add, that I enjoy your pieces tremendously. You have a lyrical soul.

Love

Jasjit

Thank you very much or all the thoughts, especially you Jasjit. I can see several features coming out of my questions, and wonderful to see the soul connections over cyber space.

I knew Deepak only from a couple of brief appearances on LK and in the last couple of weeks I have gotten to know him a little bit better on this blog. He seems to be a sincere person and one who can benefit a lot of people (and already has).

As an Indian I am not drawn to him because I find that Deepak maps western ideas on to Indian thought. This is a simple category mistake and prevents me from taking him seriously. Because, at this point in my life, I want to learn what the Indian sages had to teach, but am not willing to settle for a distorted western version. For example, if there is a natural disaster (like the recent tsunami) the entire western world, including the best and the brightest, will start talking about how could God ever do such a thing, etc., etc. However, in Indian thought all of creation, including the disasters, are part of "god" and it makes no sense to talk of *faith* in God being shattered because of this. Can we really say we have faith in thunder and lightening? The first time I saw Deepak on LK was in connection with the tsunami disaster and he seemed to go along with the western concepts. Indians do that too, because we have been overwhelmed by western culture but some of us begin to realize that something's wrong somewhere.

One other example: Indian thinking does not have fixed ideas of good and evil, right and wrong, but rather everything is context-based. Even war and killing can be dharmic, and, not only that but Lord Krishna did certain things during the war which would be characterized as "cheating" in the absolutist western tradition but in the Indian tradition do not come across as wrong as long as they are in support of dharma. I find that Deepak has fallen into the trap of the western style normative thinking and this comes through in his writing. There is an obsession with how things "ought" to be, and good and bad - which can ultimately do nothing but make sinners of us all.

These may be some of the reasons that Deepak is unable to reach out to Indians. When you live in the West you begin to notice how distorted the west's understanding of India is. Most Indians are not taught *religion* but just do a few odd pujas here and there and know the folklore. So we simply do not have the tools to pinpoint what exactly is wrong with the west's characterization of Indian culture but instead go along with it. I think Deepak also tends to do that which is a pity because he seems to be thoroughly grounded in the Indic traditions.

This is clobbered together in a hurry so I hope it is not too incoherent.

Thanks Divya. I think even though many people here do not agree with some of what you have had to say, yours is one of the important voices on this blog, because it makes every one sit up and think and share their thoughts in return.
I think whatever sense I get of Dr Chopra, he is very open minded and willing to hear and even learn, especially from those who don't blindly agree with everything he does or says!
I would like to believe unlike others that you raise questions, make comments because just like every one else on this blog, you passionately believe in your view point and you have studied facts to back it up.
We look at things through the life we have lived, the life experiences we have had, the literature we have read and the people who have inspired us or even riled us.
Thank you for your input.I have enjoyed reading all your posts.

Dear Kavita,

I have been learning from Deepak for last six years. Like Deepak says Synchronicity lead to him and now Iam one of his trained teachers in Primordial Sound Meditation, Seven Spiritual Laws of Yoga and Creating health courses.

When I was in India, I had learned many religious things from my parents and I have read Bagavat Gita thrice. But I didnot understand anything what this is all about. But when I read Deepaks first book "Creating Health", I got a good understanding of Bagavat Gita instantaneously. I love Deepaks teachings and his style of blending Vedanta, Ayurveda, Quantum Physics, Biology, Neurology, Linguistics and so on... His books "Seven Spiritual Laws of Success", "The Way of Wizard", "Unconditional Life" has all the tools to master my mind.

More than his teachings, I like the simplicity in him. When he asks me "How are you?" I can see the compassion and love in his heart. Just his presence soothes me. Without a safron robe, without showing his celebrity status and the way he can connect to a ordinary person like myself is inspiring.

One question I have been asked by Indians whom I come in contact, is why Deepak charges so much money for his seminars and workshops. My answer to them is very simple money does not matter to learn something valuable. If you are ready you will throw aside money to know the truth. When I learned Primordial Sound Meditation, I have to pay $250.00 for the course. For me it was very expensive with that money my whole family can live for 3 months. But I decided to learn the meditation anyway. But after my class, the transformation I got was so much, that 250 dollars seemed nothing before the transformation. From there I set on to become his student and teach the courses.

Deepak's teachings are so powerful, that it transformed my life so much.

Namaste,
Venky

I believe Deepak Chopra is man of great knowledge, integrity and a peacemaker..I read his books, attended his talk and keep on inspiring me to be the best that I can be by enriching me with great spiritual lessons...He is one of the best author, speaker of our time along with Wayne Dyer and so on.

Love & Blessings
Sharon

Thank you Kavita for the encouragement. I think part of the conflict arises from the fact that I'm probably a generation above most bloggers here. Fifty years ago you could criticize religion to kingdom come. Now it's taboo. I think this is a great pity.

Hi kavita,I went on your website and surfed. You Kavita are amazing.I admire your palm reading, and astrology skills.I have not read all the articles yet.

Most people who have immigrated to USA are worldly.We feel insecure because we have left India and come to a new country.In India most everybody,who is from middle class or rich have ancestral property to lean on. We came here with a certificate,and 2 suitcases.So we are interested in making money,sending kids to good schools, or colleges,having fun,saving,buying or building a big house,etc.

There are 150+ families from India where I live.8-10 people come to satsang.More than half the families have been here longer than 20 years.There is no interest in learning the philosophy of the religion,and discussing.

I have read Deepak's books,listened to tapes and cds watched a couple of videos.I think he takes a complicated vedantic concept and simplifies it so every body can understand it.

I have only heard him speak once,a long time ago,in Pittsburg,at a AAPI meeting.He is a dynamic speaker.

God bless you Kavita always.Keep up the good work.

Why do I like Deepak Chopra?

I first heard his name mentioned maybe in the late 1990's, and at that time in my life I didn't take too much notice--I WISH I WOULD HAVE! Since then I'd see a book of his at a bookstore, or I'd read an article about him, or I'd overhear his name in a conversation...I should've taken all of these as hints and clues. I should've PAID ATTENTION.

About a year ago I read a story about him in an Albuquerque newspaper and that's when I finally paid attention to all those clues--this is the kind of spiritual teaching that I needed! Unfortunately, I missed his appearance in Albq. after finding out about it too late. But next time Deepak!! Next time I will be there.

I've not yet read all of his books, but I'm learning something new from him everyday. It's almost as if everything he writes about was within me all along--I just needed to open my awareness and realize that his name wasn't just popping up everywhere all along for no reason!
COINCIDENCE?

I came across Deepak's work through his seminal book "The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success" and I haven't stopped since then. His works have changed my life for good.

His work appealed to me for the same reasons that Venky mentioned earlier. It is the way he articulates the truth that resonates with me.

Truth is always out there, and we are here to simply manifest it.

It is in our expression of the truth that makes us all unique.

So it is Deepak's articulation of the truth that appeals to me and awakens that truth in me.

And, the reason why he is not popular among S.Asians..

Deepak is all about spirituality, whereas most of the S. Asians ( I come from there), I feel, are mired in religion.

Religion has all the tools to be spiritual but unfortunately they are not emphasised over there and only the superficial aspects of a religion like rituals are encouraged and zealously practised. It is hard to go beyond them.
I always wondered why don't they teach Bhagavad Gita in the temples like they teach Bible on Sundays here at the church.


As the Zen proverb goes
"When the student is ready, the teacher will arrive."
I believe that's why folks like me (and Venky perhaps), when we were ready, we were plucked out of the S.Asian consciousness (as it wasn't quite ready) and placed here in this country so we could come across Deepak :).

i have known Deepak for some time. My expereince is very different. If i could share it for even a minute...all of your minds would change. Everything you ever thought would be shattered. My question is WHY? Why create idols...he has created a great image but that is not him. Who is hardly the projection everyone seems to be drawn to. Why not see what is real. He is a great Showman...but what about a human being. Showing compassion in a few meetings is easy, but living it is hard. Ask Deepak.

Dear someone who knows, All of us who are in our human forms are just that -- human. Although I enjoyed seeing and meeting Deepak, I am more interested in his message than the man. To become more interested in the man is to possibly set oneself up for disappointment. We all have things to learn, even Deepak. But Deepak knows so much more than the rest of us. I am very happy that he is willing to share his knowledge with us. Patzi

Deepak was one of the people that changed my life, together with Louise Hay and Carolyn Myss, when I met him in Atlanta in 97, before doing Seduction of Spirit , seminar that was possible to me by the way, bec someone needed to learn the way we spoke spanish in Chile ...my home country , and was willing to pay a lot of money for it, tell me about syncronicity there ...I bring that info here bec , I feel that money is just another form of energy that goes around , and if the flow was going through me towards Deepak and from him continued to flow...it was ok with me , it came impregnated with joy to me ,I used it joyfully, I am sure it continued the way in joy !
As Deepak said "The Universe conspires to make us happy "
But well , I was talking about that 1st time I met him , I had with me a wonderful Ayurveda wheel , I asked him to sign it , and he looked at it marveled ,turn it around to see who has done this,( I had bought it in the Chopra Center in San Diego...) only to find that had been someone in Australia , so far away ...I was impressed with his reaction, like a child in front of an interesting toy , ...a real master's reaction ...no ego in sight,plain amazement,I remember thinking , this man has no idea how many lives he has touched ...of course he is a man , thanks God he is a human being, that probably strives with his own things , it means we have hope , that we can rise to higher levels of humanhood , thanks God !
For me , he is a man completely passionate about humanity, a healer gifted as few are , to communicate in this communication era , the spiritual path with logic and hearth ...I thank the Universe for having him with us !!!
and what about Asians ? Well , I believe that is your work asians to do , to get the number of people on your side of the earth , to shift conciousness about this overthere...from here we send good ,loving energy to you
Love
Patricia
Santiago -Chile

India has too many gurus/spiritual teachers, and Deepak's teachings are mostly a recycling of traditional hindu knowledge, with a mix of jargon. India needs economic development and not spirituality. India needs men or action, not authors of bestsellers.

Aha, to know that all in their different ways and different capacities are only serving one great scheme of things of the universe from big bang to big crunch to big bang and so on!

Aha, to know that the same stands for Deepak as well as for his detractors here, there and everywhere!

Aha, to know that the same stands for the apparently so devastating tsunamis, hurricanes and earthquakes!

Aha, to know that the more rational mind of the West and the more intuitive mind of the East are compelled by the great scheme of things to push for a union now for a great paradigm shift on the global scale.

Aha, to know that this is the reason Eastern spiritualists are compelled to talk in terms of 'Western' science and Western scientists are compelled to talk in terms of 'Eastern' spirituality more and more!

Aha, to know that not even an atom moves but as per that scheme of things and to serve that scheme of things!

Aha, to know that the rational West and the intutive East are to the organism of the Earth as a whole as the rational left and the intuitive right hemisphers of man's brain are to man and work accordingly to further Earth's and man's schemes of things!

Aha, to know that nothing can prevent the rise of a person, people, culture whose time has come to rise and nothing, likewise, can prevent the fall of a person, people, culture whose time has come to fall!

Aha, to know that all this happens according to some laws operating on basic matter level and ever since big bang and man's individual or collective choices, or good or bad intentions cannot prevent anything happening when its time has come!

Aha, to know that just as man's choices cannot prevent him from going from childhood to youth to middle age to old age to death!

Aha, to wonder that yet the choices and subsequent actions too are in the scheme of things and serve the scheme of things!

Aha, to know that we are now in the times identical to the last phase of greek culture when their philosophies of Stoicism, Cynics and Sceptics, and Epicureanism held sway!

Aha, to know that such cycles will continue at all levels with and within the universe till big crunch!

Aha, to know that the greatest cycle of the universe is for ever!

Aha, to know that so what comes and goes are only forms and the substance of which those forms are made is forever!

LOL. Now this is my poem! Hope everybody enjoys it!!

Harb.

"I remember reading Dr Chopra’s book Quantum Healing a few years ago and getting hooked. I have this habit of devouring everything on and by the author who catches my attention. Over the years, I have always felt that most of the hundreds of Indians I know, admire him. They say he is the Ravi Shankar of Indian spirituality, showcasing the ancient Indian treasures of holistic healing and mind/body connection on a global forum. "

Ms. Chibber, how much were you paid to write this?
I have to agree with Arjun that India needs Men Of Action. Armchair messengers of peace like Mr. Chopra who earn their living by giving sermons to the West are not needed in India.

I personally like Deepak a lot, though I do not agree to everything he would preach and write. I absolutely love the way he writes and sometimes I find myself aping his style of writing. I have some very interesting stories to tell about how Deepak has affected my life without his own knowledge ofcourse.

God bless him and may he always be cherished for the wonderful work he has done throughout his life.

Love,

Sameer

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