Kavita Chhibber - September 21, 2005
teaches more lessons than writing the story itself...
Reading Anjali’s blog live and let love, and the many posts in response, discussing the political and legal roadblocks for people in same sex relationships transported me to the time in 2002 when I decided to do a story on South Asian gays and lesbians living in the US. I decided to tell the story not from a political angle or the legal angle, but the most important one for me-a human perspective.
I was born in India and grew up there. I don’t recall any discussions about lgbt issues or even seeing openly gay people. The only close encounter I had was coming off the tennis courts, in this elite women’s college in Delhi, and being paid an awkward clumsy compliment not about my game, but my legs by a woman four years my senior who then proceeded to invite me to her room to hang out. I didn’t think much of her compliment or invitation and declined only because I had to shower and rush for a class. I was told later by another girl who overheard the conversation, that the woman who invited me over was a lesbian. It was all said to me in a hushed whisper. I shrugged it off not knowing what to believe and that was that.
Many years later when I chose to do the story it was because of a couple of conversations that I had with two gay men. One told me that the suicide rate and depression had catapulted to alarming proportions among south Asian gays and also that the number of south Asians coming out was increasing at a high rate. At that time I was freelancing for the largest south Asian publication in the south east, among others. I decided that since this was an issue that must be brought to light a South Asian publication would be an ideal vehicle. Initially the publishers were very hesitant. “We are a community magazine, we don’t know if south Asians are ready for this topic.’ Finally after weeks of going back and forth they agreed to publish the piece.
Then came the reactions. One of my brothers, a total homophobe was aghast. “Why are you doing this? No one in our family has been gay in the past God knows how many generations? Why get into all this? I refuse to read the story, if you write it.” Several highly educated, supposedly wise Indians asked –oh so you are interviewing Americans? No? a pause then, ‘You mean there are Indians who are gay?’ Another cousin in Hawaii called indignantly,” You and your gay story! My Indian best friend’s daughter just came out to my friend-and that too at this big party I had thrown in their honor! All the mother and daughter did was whisper to each other and every 15 minutes the mother would go into the bathroom and cry and come out. They didn’t talk to any one who was there.”
I carried on doggedly and asked my friend Aditya Kar, an openly gay Professor whom I had interviewed for another story, to help me out, because I didn’t know where to start. Aditya sent out an email to a global closed list for gay lesbian bisexual and transgender people telling them to contact me and that he was confident I would come up with a story that would be balanced. He added that the lgbt community needed straight allies, especially in the media. He also asked me to send out an email on the list myself.
So I sent out an email saying looking to interview gays and lesbians. A few hours later, I got an email from a Professor from Austin asking me why I was leaving out the bisexual and transgender people, and then told me to interview him since he was bisexual.
The professor began by asking me to read about 20 different books written on the issues that the community deals with. While doing that I discovered that one of the authors, a lesbian had been my English Professors at Delhi University. When I called and talked to her, I was surprised to find out that there had been plenty of gay people in the university system but no one talked about it. No one really bothered them either. It was as if they didn’t exist.
And then began a journey into the dark and closed world of a community that continues to look over its shoulder to this day-each story more heart breaking than the other. Being homosexual in the South Asian community is extremely painful and heart wrenching, because even before dealing with society's reprobation, most gays have to deal with their own internal homophobias and denial that they can be anything but heterosexual. Even so, more and more South Asians in the United States are stepping out of the closet and at relatively younger ages and by so doing are challenging the staid conventions of the community.
I talked to Vismita Gupta Smith, an award winning documentary film maker, whose older brother Navarun came out to her when his parents started pressuring him to get married. She stopped him from telling their parents just then as she wanted to acclimatize them to the concept. Thus began a two-year struggle to do just that. She told me "My brother was the perfect son. Affectionate, brilliant, his school academic records are still unbroken. How do you tell Indian parents their only son is gay? I am not very religious, but there were times I would sit in a temple and pray, that God please make it all right, let my parents survive this." She even tried to get her parents to focus on lgbt issues. “ I’m sure they began to think I was gay.” When they were told, after the initial shock Navarun was even told to get married and continue to see his boyfriend on the side. Navarun refused. Vismita went on to make an award winning documentary called” For straights only”. At that time she said to me, "There is not even a respectful Indian word to describe homosexuality in India and I would feel very anguished at the thought that all those people who love my brother and look up to him are just going to be disrespectful once they found out he was gay. You have jokes about this terrible portrayal of people who are gay and insinuations that are perverse, especially
in Hindi movies. I got married four years ago and when I took my husband to India there was this big ceremony, indicating social, legal, emotional acceptance of this complete stranger from 300 relatives, and my brother has been with his partner for over 11 years, and there is no recognition. So the essence of our culture is only for straights and not for your gay and lesbian kids. That is a sad, sad statement."
Ifti Nasim, a well known Pakistani poet, said that he was similarly anguished
when he realized he was gay. "I wanted to be a straight man because my father
was straight and I had no role models to be anything but straight. Outwardly I
appeared very strong, but deep down inside I was very scared. It was a very sad
existence."
When one of his close friends got married, Nasim cried all night, and wondered if
he would be alone all his life. "Why was I chosen for this torture, why couldn't I be like anyone else, get married, have a wife, a house and children? I became deeply religious and would go and pray to God incessantly to change me, my desires. I must have some kind of very strong spiritual and intellectual conviction or ideology or I would not have survived. On top of that my older brother found out and he hated me and he used to beat me black and blue."
That same religious conflict tore at Faisal Alam, who came to United States at 10 and at 16 decided to embrace Islam, becoming very involved in the Muslim youth movement as well as mosque activities. At the same time, he was battling his sexual identity. His first gay relationship occurred at 16 when he met an American convert in the mosque. "I would have a wonderful time in his company, then come home and cry reciting verses from the Koran that condemned homosexuality."
Soon after began his dual life, where during the day he would be brother Faisal Alam, a role model for every Muslim youth, and at night he indulged in a fast pace gay lifestyle. As his ideology and sexuality clashed, Alam had a nervous breakdown. Lying in the hospital, watching his mother stay with him day and night, her anguish and pain made him all the more determined to live honestly from then on. "I grew up with the ultimate dream of marrying a woman; I always saw myself in the bridegroom's chair. I also grew up being told a gay Muslim was an oxymoron and I knew deep within that there were others like me, who needed help from isolation and depression."
Shilpa (name changed), an academician from an elite, high profile, highly educated family in South India and an incest survivor. At 20 she ended up in an emotionally and physically abusive marriage. After getting a divorce she came to study for her PhD in the United States, where she first heard the word lesbian. She says knew she always had intense relationships with women. "I think there are people for whom it's clear cut. For me an understanding of what I desired was muddied by the sexual abuse I had suffered. I think one of the painful secrets a lot of lesbians hide is that they are incest survivors. It is easier to be a lesbian than that." These are excerpts from the story I wrote.
A transgender man talked about the heartbreak of being born a woman in Pakistan and the fact that when he did go for a sex change operation, there was a major theological discussion what a cardinal sin it is against Islam, ‘ and that I would be hell bound for eternity. We won't be able to show our face in the community. No one will marry our daughters." One of his brothers disowned him.
I also found that bisexuals have to confront not just the homophobia of the straight community, which brands them as promiscuous, even though most are in strictly monogamous relationships; they also face derision from the gay community, which considers them closet gays, hiding behind the veneer of bisexuality because they are afraid to come out. A study by the Australian National University found that bisexuals "had the worst mental health on measures of anxiety, depression and suicidality."
As I heard story after story, there were days I would put my head on my writing table and weep tears of anger and frustration. It was hard to accept the fact that someone’s sexual orientation could become the sum of their personality and the freedom I took for granted could be denied to someone, based on what they did in the privacy of their bedroom.
I also saw that most Indian parents don’t give up on their kids –they just jump into the closet with them. Others keep hoping the kids are just going through a phase. The mothers were the ones more accepting in the case of sons, but the fathers took it more personally –as if there was something lacking in their manhood to have produced a gay son. It was the same story when it came to mothers and daughters, with the mothers blaming themselves.
Finally after 3 months of research, incessant interviews(I was ambushed by almost 500 emails daily from all over the world during those months from people wanting to share their stories) I finally sent the story out. A couple of days before the story was to go to the press the magazine dropped it. I was told that if I left out the bisexuals and transgender people they would carry the story. Their reasoning- bisexuals were the horribly promiscuous people who made a grab for both sexes and no one really talked about transgender people. When I referred to cover stories by major national publications in India on the transgender community and also that in truth most bisexuals choose long term monogamous relationships, I was asked to take the story somewhere else. I remember shedding tears of frustration, refusing to have the story published in an American publication even though there were prominent newspapers and magazines willing to publish it. I strongly felt it was the south Asians who need to acknowledge that the lgbt community exists and is an integral part of their lives.
A week later the story was picked up by Little India, the largest south Asian monthly publication, not just in the southeast but the entire country. The article remains one of the most highly accessed, on my website and theirs, to this day. Contrary to what was expected there was not one negative comment about the story. Oh wait..there was one.. from, of all the people a physician who told the publisher he didn’t want to advertise in a magazine which publishes such inappropriate stories, like this one. A week after his comment, the article was among the five finalists for "Outstanding Magazine Article" by the Gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) at the 14TH Annual Glaad Media awards-it was the only South Asian piece to make it in any category at the awards!
Today 3 years later, I don’t see much change. Also while Canada legalized same sex marriages thanks to the initiative taken by Ujjal Dosanjh the Canadian Health minister, who I know personally and admire tremendously, the condemnation he faced from the Sikh community big wigs for being a part of that historic decision, when he went to India was devastating. He came back deeply saddened by the bias he saw.
I still see cries for help from gays and lesbians looking for marriages of convenience with other gays and lesbians of the opposite sex, to make their folks happy. Several gays are married and do carry on affairs on the side. One of them told me that was the easiest way for him to have children, as it is still tough for two gay men to adopt a child. Many of these men have infected their wives with HIV, and the shame prevents them from confessing to the wives or the family. The consequences are horrible, with infected wives and HIV positive pregnancies.
So before we talk of the political and legal repercussions and obstacles, may be all of us need to talk of acceptance and tolerance and education amongst ourselves. And it is a tough road.. I know..you see my highly educated, otherwise wonderful brother still has not read that article…
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Posted by Kavita Chhibber at September 21, 2005 10:04 PM
Dear Kavita,
I have a healing story to share from my personal experience with a women.
She came to my meditation workshop after her sister's recommendation to learn meditation. In the workshop I also teach Seven Spiritual Laws of Yoga. At the end of the yoga class I always end with asking participant to say 'Namaste'(I honor the spirit in you,as I honor the spirit in me) to one another in the class. After hearing this greeting, she felt so connected.
After this workshop she started coming to the weekly yoga class regularly for 3 months and one day she told me she is going to get admitted to the hospital and won't be coming to the class for few weeks. I thought it will help her to learn about Emotional Healing and about death so that she can go to the hosipital with courage. She along with her sisters came to my house and I shared with her the process of healing emotions (as taught in seducation of spirit and creating health courses by Deepak) and about death
After few weeks, I heard from her sister that she passed away and her whole family Thanked me for sharing with her meditation, yoga and healing process. They told me she loved saying 'Namaste' and was completely healed before she died. They invited me to participate in the funeral.
Only when I attended the funeral, I came to know she was a lesbian. They read her jounral from her last days. She had written she was healed by the salutation 'Namaste' and how she felt unconditional love and connected with everyone. Her family was catholic and didnot accept her being a lesbian. After her healing experience, she loved and accepted all her family members and felt the presence of god in her life.
Acceptance and showing unconditional love is the way to show respect and dignity to people, without any labels and judgement.
Kavita, appreciate all your posts on this blog. I enjoy reading them. Thanks for sharing
Love,
Venky
Intersting introspect Kavita.
I wonder what is the deal with the aversions to promiscuity? Just because people like being touched and getting their nerve endings stimulated? Why is it that women are looked down on if they like sex a lot? It probably goes way back to the value of their virginity, when they were considered to be like property.
I think the institution of marriage is really somewhat unnatural except in the raising of children where is serves a purpose. The view on this is cultures where the whole tribe shares in the taking care of the children, all are mothers and fathers then this is not so much an issue. This is not noramlly possible in our disconnected atomic family society however.
Well it really brings to light several misperceptions or Illusions.
Two memes I have been promoting for the decade are.
You are not your body.
Spirit has no gender.
A new one in the last two years...
There are no penises in Heaven.
We suffer from an identity crisis as a society, not knowing who / what we really are.
Then there is the issue should government be involved in religious institutions.
If they are not then it is a business contract and it is Illegal for there to be gender descrimination. This is where I would apporach it in court.
The younger generation teens early twenties, I have a daughter, are very bisexual by the way it ver common among girls I would go as far as to say 40%.
Really we are talking about archaic belief systems and dogma that need to be dissolved.
How about this one.
If you really love your mate then you should have no problem with them engaging in sex with other partners if it makes them happy. It is really just you anyway looking from a different point of view.
So why is that we promote monagamy? Usuaully because of insecurity and jealousy (responsibility for raising children, and the importance of a father and mother aside).
Many partners agree to fidelity because they don't want their partners engaging with others but they themselves would actually like to do so.
This obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but would explain the large number of divorces and the breaking of the fidelity agreement in secret. Women seem to be just as bad as men in this respect.
Venky,
Thank you for that powerful story.
Scott.
I am not saying marriage is a bad thing by the way, I think it can be a great thing for the right reasons, the bonding between two.
I wonder about those arranged marriages in some cultures, do they really result in a happy union?
Kavita,
I salute you for this story.
Cheers!!
Krish.....
Kavita, I found an interesting article related to this issue. Lemme post it here for others to read.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/healthnet/SAsia/suchana/0909/rh374.html
Kavita
Could you post a link to your earlier article that was published in Little India?
Thanks,
Ameet
Ameet,
This is Kavita's article:
http://www.kavitachhibber.com/indian_gays.html
I think people who can't accept variety (gays, transgender etc.) as equals are at the core, sexually insecure.
Freud would perhaps say if one can't accept everyone as an equal, they are sexually insecure :-)
Here it a link to Kavita's article entitled "Indian Gays Step Out" in its entirety:
http://www.kavitachhibber.com/indian_gays.html
Kavita - thank you so much for doing this courageous work. You are an inspiration.
I think that homophobic issues come from two places - the need to control the other (but really the self) and discomfort with one's own sexuality.
And yes, those who voted in favour of a re-defining of marriage to include same sex in Canada received as much flak as they did praise. The anti side even went as far as setting up websites listing those who would vote in favour of same-sex marriage, encouraging people to harrass them to change their minds in the days leading up to the vote. They even recruited religious organizations in the U.S. (like the Knights of Columbus) to put pressure on their congregants to pressure the politicians. It got rather ugly at times. Thank the Goddess ;-) it didn't work.
I am hetero but I experienced a similar "coming out" pain when I revealed I was Pagan to my very fundamentalist christian parents. I was reviled as evil and disowned so I can relate well to my LGBT friends.
Love, Sheba
Thanks Kavita. You are a class apart. It was great revisiting that story again today. I think all of us have faced some bias, some prejudice, some discrimination or humiliation if we look at our own lives-at times from outsiders and often from loved ones ..but if we learn to even take a couple of baby steps in the shoes of others, it will be a start.
Kavita, thank you so much for this post--I am glad to know the person you are.
Everyone else, thank you for the kinds words, and links. I am moved deeply from the honesty. Especially your's Venky.
If only people outside this blog felt the same...
Thank you every one for your kind words, the stories and your thoughts. Madhav you are right-we have all had our heartbreaks, no matter what our sexual orientation, ethical background or social status may be.
I read some where..make the big decisions with your heart and the inconsequential ones with your head.
If we do that, I know we can reach out with far greater love and compassion towards others.
Kavita, I was one of the people you interviewed for the lgbt story but whose interview didnt make it because I was based in London and your publisher wanted only people based in the US.
I still remember that unknown to you, you were the talk of the town amongst all the lesbians on the other women email list where your request for an interview had been posted. Every one kept talking about this gorgeous straight woman who was even more sensitive and compassionate than many gay journalists that we talked to. Many of us fantasized that you were one of us and you would come out :) Do you remember my friend R who kept asking you out for a date saying "You havent met the right woman yet!" It was heart warming to see how you took her crush in your stride without putting her down.
I also know the pregnant lesbian who wanted to name her daughter after you, and the two paranoid ones who created such tension that any one else in your place would have thrown in the towel and not done the story. They did realize their mistake and apologized.
I have since then moved to the US and I feel that at least here most lgbt still have a chance to live. In England for most South Asians life is becoming dangerous, and the lgbt community even more so.
Thank you for doing such a stupendous job both for this story and the one you wrote on South Asians living with HIV/AIDS. Maybe the making of that story(HIV/AIDS) should be your next blog.
I also see very few comments on this blog. Perhaps a lot of people are still uncomfortable commenting on or discussing this topic!
Dear Kavita,
I'm the mother of a 30 year old daughter who is lesbian and came out 3 years ago. I had been in such denial, refusing to believe that my only child could be gay. Being Indian I was petrified of the stigma, of what people would think, that I was all alone.
My daughter had given me your article to read and while it still took time to come to terms with her sexuality, I suddenly didnt feel the claustrophobia I had felt when she first came out to me.
It has been a slow process but I became a member of a support group for southasian parents and friends of gays and lesbians and today I go with pride to gay parades and have accepted my daughter and her partner.
I still dont tell the world my daughter is gay, unless a marriage proposal comes up. Then depending on who it is I tell the plain truth or a white lie version of the truth.
God bless you for tackling such a tough subject with such compassion and senstivity. I hope you will continue to revisit this topic to create constant awareness about an issue which is still talked about in hushed whispers in many quarters.
I've managed to save up roughly $34355 in my bank account, but I'm not sure if I should buy a house or not. Do you think the market is stable or do you think that home prices will decrease by a lot?
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Kavita, thank you so much for this post--I am g
Kavita
You are a classy woman, my friend.
So important and so many layers to the issues you raise in this article. You say:
"I also saw that most Indian parents don’t give up on their kids –they just jump into the closet with them. Others keep hoping the kids are just going through a phase. The mothers were the ones more accepting in the case of sons, but the fathers took it more personally –as if there was something lacking in their manhood to have produced a gay son. It was the same story when it came to mothers and daughters, with the mothers blaming themselves."
Unfortunately, I have several gay friends who have been so hurt by the unwillingness of their parents to accept who they are. It is definately exacerbated in the Indian community, but a reality world wide, I fear.
Thanks to both you and Anjali for writing about this.
Love Mallika