I am for legalizing the prostitution. My idea for legalizing prostitution is simple. By criminalizing it, you cannot stop prostitution at all. I am just going to use the modified version of what Clinton said in a meeting in Gainesville, Florida. Clinton was arguing against agression as the only means of eliminating terrorists and during the part of his argument he used the sentence "It is impossible to hunt down each and every terrorist". I am using a similar argument in this case against criminalization. It is impossible to catch each and every person who buys sex. In such a scenario, by legalizing prostitution, you get a chance to reach out to them and educate them about the problems associated with "bad sex methods". The only way to curtail prostitution is to educate people about it and make them realize the problems associated with it. You cannot curtail it by force. The only way is to reach out to the supply side and demand side and educate them about it. Their realization is an absolute must for bringing this issue to a close (or closer to that stage). To bring about this realization, you need to bring the practitioners to the mainstream society. This can only be done by legalizing it.

In India, the problem needs to be addressed differently. More than the need to educate the practitioners of this trade, you need to educate the entire population about sex. It is all messy out there. You need to bring sex education to the fore front.

Alright Krish, I hafta say it!! It's sort of off the subject...but...oh well!!

It's hilarious that you bring Clinton into a discussion about prostitution! He thinks it's crazy to hunt down each and every terrorist...but he probably has a little black book with the names of most prostitutes.....:)

Aww, I'm just trying to lighten the moment, anything concerning Clinton and sex....well,...we've gotta run with it!!

norm

ps...by the way...Clinton would be on the demand side...right??

I've seen a few documentaries where several prostitutes from India spoke on camera.
This is the summary of what they said -

0. majority of customers are heavily intoxicated due to liquor before they have sex.
1. customers are so scared they routinely wear 3-4 condoms on top of each other, to prevent aids & any sort of pregnancy.
2. very few customers have actual sex ie. penetration.
since customers are all intoxicated, they indulge mostly in mutual masturbation ie. stroking of the penis by hand, accompanied by leery sexual remarks. The customers, who are already intoxicated & fantasizing about Bipasha or Mallika or the current sex bomb, come immediately when their organs are hand-stroked. They then wipe off the cum, pay the 50-100 rupees and stumble out with a lot of guilt.
3. this cycle repeats every few weeks.

So it is not like the movies you watch say Jism, Murder etc. where cleanly shaven macho guys spend hours in various postures giving hot orgasms to their partner. It is a very hurried affair, gets over in 10 minutes on average, and is 90% masturbation, not real sex. Basically, Indian customers of prostitutes are simply engaging in masturbation, which is seen as a completely harmless practice in USA & the West, but is still considered taboo in India ( there is no word for masturbation in several Indian languages ).

I have heard from several American kids whose mother/father caught them masturbating to Playboy channel or Penthouse & simply laughed & walked away, because they know it is just puberty & hormones. So it is a very harmless thing & nobody bothers about it in the West. Whereas, in India, if your mother catches you masturbating in your pillow or wet towel, consequences will be disastorous - she will think you are having sex!!!
Harmless release of semen is seen as taboo in India.

Another important tidbit - majority of prostitutes in India are shemales ie. hijras. So basically Indian male customers are paying good cash to masturbate with another half-male! It is really funny if you think about it.

I have also spoken to a real prostitute at length about it. She is a film actress in Bollywood who does prostitution on the side for more money. She charges 50,000 rupees, and she told me it is the easiest way to make money in India because again, there is no real sex. Her customers have already seen her in various item numbers. So they come to the hotel having a huge erection because of the fantasy playing in their minds. She gets them drunk on Chivas Regal, and after a few glasses, she murmurs a few "dirty words" in Hindi in their ears, and reaches out for their penis. The custoimer is so excited by that time, he comes readily & profusely on her hands. She then washes her hands, takes his money & heads him out the door. The process takes 10-15 minutes tops, and the customers are paying 50,000 rupees for this!

I seriously feel very sorry for Indians. They are so sex-starved they are paying good cash for harmless masturbation with shemales!

Norm, I can only smile at your ignorance. Clinton didn't say it is crazy to huntu down each and every terrorist. He said it is impossible to hunt down each and every terrorist. Anyone with an iota of sense can accept this fact. Also if Clinton has a list of prostitutes, it is his problem. It is definitely not my problem or yours.

"A) Criminalize the buying of sex, and b) decriminalize the selling of sex."

Vijay - This proposal doesn't make sense. Pimping and trafficking should definitely be criminalized but I don't seen how (b) will work if (a) is in place, i.e., how will the prostitues get their health benefits, pay taxes etc. if their work is considered to be in partnership with criminals.

Perhaps Sweden doesn't grant benefits to sex workers but only takes care of them when they are in trouble. What is the Netherlands model, do you know?

What is the Netherlands model, do you know?

Prostitution Policy (pdf)

http://www.minbuza.nl/default.asp?CMS_ITEM=MBZ300612

http://www.researchforsexwork.org/

Thank you Marek. That Netherlands prostitution policy is simply wonderful...it can be listed as a hallmark of free trade & total economic freedom.

However, as I have outlined, sex has not just economic but cultural components. In Scandinavia, having sex is as common as having a cup of coffee, so there is no great moral dilema involved. In India, even mentioning the word sex can get you in trouble in say high school.

If you have tried to make an Adult Film in India, you will see that it is easier to scale the Everest than trying to get a Censor Certificate. Most of what is called "A" film in India simply has a woman showing some cleavage & walking in a bikini...and even those posters aren't allowed on the walls on the street. Whereas here in the West you turn on the TV or open the New York Times, you'll find a Victoria Secrets ad that has more sexual content than any Indian Adult film.

Just talk to a bunch of Indian youth & they'll tell you how sex-starved it is out there. People in India think dating means holding hands & going to a Bollywood movie...& worst case, kissing. Sex is not even a possibility. I know of several 25 year old guys, successful & educated, who think they have to put their dick in the woman's navel - I kid you not! Whereas here in the US, every girl has lost her virginity by 16. Its just very different out there.

For a long time, there was a magazine in India called "Debonair" which was considered hardcore porn. Now, I guarantee you, even a 10 year old schoolkid in the US would have more sexual material than the Debonair mag...they were just normal girls sitting on a couch with no bra, and that is porn ?!! India is such a fun country.

"it can be listed as a hallmark of free trade & total economic freedom." Film maker are you trying to say that Prostitution should be covered under WTO. Legalization should be done to prevent abuse of women not to promote it and get more women into it. The swedish model is good , but it wont work for India.As Film maker says India is very conservative and will not accept to it. We need to bring sex education, there is a lot of rapes going on in India now.

We need to start somewhere for this and the best thing is to raid all brothels in India and bring the women out and then help them out. Give fullhealth protection, treat the ones wtih HIV, protect them from Pimps. then only we should consider legalization or anything else.

this is a good topic to debate in the Indian parliament.

Vijay,
This is a good idea for india, but there are no politician in India who can take this fight up. Mnay Indians will get offended, even though decriminalization will help reduce HIV and abuse of women in brothels.
Krish,
your reference to Clinton is vague and tryng to educate 1 billion people in India is very difficult, when the word sex is a tabboo in India. I like Filamker's remarks, very raw but true of the situation in India. We have seen the stories of cell phone MMS of teenage girls.

India needs to revolutionize its prostitution area through tough measures like Sweden.

I think we should continue to support organized crime and keep it illegal. As we all know anything made illegal creates a black market and produces billions in profit for the criminal enterprise.

Not only does this provide campaign money for corrupt politicians it provides income for defense lawyers and companies that support the prison system. All the people in the judicial and court systems make a living from this as well.

It is very similar in nature to the business of war, very profitable and resulting in violence.

So I suppose you would not find many politicians that would go against organized crime and support legalization.

In answer to your question I would license it and make it legit to be a pleasure provider.

Any society that chooses violence and corruption over a few people being stoned or pleasuring others is really sick.

In fact they should be charged for endangering their children by creating black markets.

They must be really twisted to make paid nerve stimulation of others a crime.

Pratip, I didn't mention Clinton in this context at all. I just borrowed the argument he used in another context to put forward my argument. I just said that it is simply impossible to catch each and every one involved in prostitution. How can this be vague? Lemme know. I will be happy to discuss about it.

Also I didn't connect Clinton with trying to educate 1 billion people in India about sex. What gave you that impression. I was just saying that we need a proper sex education in India. The lack of such an education is the reason for not only flourishing sex trade but also for many domestic abuses which women in India face. I do agree that it is more difficult to do in reality. But we need a start. it is my point.

Vijay and all -
I have a hard time seeing how you make selling something illegal when it is perfectly legal to give it away. To be perfectly honest, sex is purchased legally all the time. Women marry men for their money all the time (and the other way around); a 75 year old male multi-millionaire that marries a 25 year old supermodel KNOWS (and so does everyone else) that the marriage is about money. He's bought a companion...she knows it and is okay with it...in fact she feels fortunate. How is that different than some guy buying an evening of sex for $100? Really it is no different. To me the main difference is that we think it's okay (even sort of cute and admirable) that an old millionaire is sleeping with a woman that could be his great granddaughter, but an average middleclass guy that may not be the best looking chocolate in the box is lonely and horny but can't afford to buy a wife is looked at as some sort of deviant.

The real prostitution is that since it is illegal typically, only the most desperate young women and men engage in selling it. If prostituion were to be legalized, regulated and taxed it would be safer for the men and women selling and safer for those buying. Money and time could be then focused on eradicating sexual slavery and the child sex trade.

Peace,
Scott.

Well said Scott.

Krishbaby,

Ignorant? Me? Aww c'mon!! I really wasn't trying to get it 'right' about the terrorism thing...I was just getting a kick out of Clinton being brought into a conversation about prostitution...all in fun!! The Horn dog in chief......

norm

Norm,
Oops, I forgot that you are a conservative. I should have remembered that. I do know that the conservative's only business is to poke into other people's sex life. I am sorry somehow it slipped out of my mind when I replied :-)

What is wrong with sex among consenting adults even if it is for money? It is when these creeps harm children that I could personally pull a trigger!

Skeptisch,

Exactly. It is no different from smoking or drinking. It will be better if they make it legal, give proper education (as it is done for smoking and drinking) and regulate it properly. This will definitely reduce the risks associated with prostitution and may eventually make it not so attractive.

Just read the Netherlands policy. Thanks Marek. They seem to have it all covered. Vijay, I'm surprised you opted for the Swedish model instead. The more I learn about the Netherlands, the more I like it. If only their climate wasn't so bad I would have been so tempted to move there.

Folks,

I think legalisation might work for a developed country or a country with a small population base. In a Country like India, legalisation is a distant dream and with corruption from the law enforcement being a major challenge, legalisation may lead to several other challenges.

What the Swedish model is trying to achieve is that take the onus off the women and put it on the customer. Many women are forced/trafficked into prostitution. By decriminalising, health care workers and counsellors will be able to interact with them for their needs. Prostitutes will be willing to come forward to seek help, because they know they won't be punished for it. Our focus is to help men and women prostitutes and not make it easier for people to profit from it.

By criminalising the act of buying and pimping , you want to cut the fuel line that is keeping this trade alive. This will keep pressure on the pimps and customers.

It has been seen that full legalization, has shown an increased number of women in the trade, mostly foreign origin and illegal in Europe.

In a country of 1 billion, where the mafia is very closely knit with law enforcement, full legalization will lead to more burden on women. Decriminalization will help remove harassment's for the prostitutes and still leave legal room for prosecuting pimps who force women and girls into it.

Interesting.Cleaning brothels in India will not only resolve the problem of the abused women but also reduce petty crime in the regions. I read somewhere that brothels are breeding grounds for criminals. By decriminalisation it would be possible to get the women to speak and as we know from history, many an empire have crashed because of men talking too much to the other woman. Prostitutes will have a lot of information on criminal activities and also police officers who are in bed with the criminals.

This is a great initiative for India and if implemented thsi will definetly reduce coruption and crime in India, besides helping women.

Wow! there is a lot of love towards legalisation of prostitution. Even though we live in a liberal society, legalisation of a crime is not a solution towards resolving our problems.

So will you legalise gun killing because it is increasing and anyone can pull the trigger and walk into a police station and walk away with it. You need to strengthen the enforcement of the law, rather than relax the law.

Just as a curiosity, I wonder how many of you think its ok to pay and have sex or pay for the purpose of having sex?

Dude, don't compare killing with prostitution. There is a physical damage done to another person in killing. While in prostitution, there is no physical damage done to another person. At the max, they kill a few sperms which people do otherwise too. Your comparision is ridiculus. I don't support prostitution but it is definitely not on par with killing. If you guys are serious about solving/minimizing the issue, stop the moral crap and think logically about the best way to tackle the issue. If morality is the criteria, it is subjective. In some societies, kissing in public is immoral. Will you agree if kissing in public is made a crime. Come on guys, we are not talking about moral issues here. We are talking about the best way to solve/minimize the impact of prostitution.

Finally we have a few men standing up for this issue. Its long due and high time that we worked on legislations to bring in the change to help battered women and girls in the sex trade. It doesn't matter whether you decriminalise or legalise, Just by taking efforts towards it will help save a lot of lives. There are millions of womenin south Asia who are working as sex slaves. This is a very important issue that needs national attention.

Comparing prostitution with killing is quite inaccurate. The person getting killed has not given his consent. We are talking of consenting adults trading sex for money. Depending on the viewpoint of a society, it can be called undesirable,unsocial or immoral, but in no way criminal. Some may consider it morally harmful, like say adultery, drinking, or even masurbation. But criminal? Why? A closer case could be consensual bribe-taking and bribe-giving. But if one in a position of power takes bribe for taking an unfair decision, he or she is harming someone else's bona fide interests. Which is not the case with prostitution. In the case of a married man, you can say the wife is the aggrieved party. But that is a case similar to adultery, and can be treated as such.

´The more I learn about the Netherlands, the more I like it. If only their climate wasn't so bad I would have been so tempted to move there.´

haha,
eeeuh..Yes! the weather sucks bigtime!!
you never know what season it is, and seaclimate..
Anyway I have to add, the best looking prostituts in the Netherlands are from...do a wild guess..yes,indeed Polish!, Tjech, and other East European gems,

Anyhow, the criterium would be, the consensus, free will, alternatives, and they have the financial means and are realistic and well organised, in the Neverlands..;)

Love, Passion and good spiritual vibrations,

maybe ´fasinating´ in the topic,
Every know and then, articles pop up,
about prostitutes 24h supermarkets in Germany,
and East Europe,
where you literally can BUY woman from East Europe, also there are auctions,
they have whole ´checklists´ to determin the
´value´; scars, age, ethical background, a true meatmarket, the last time I read about the prizes, a top range, good ´model´ went around 3000 Euro, and their yours, you can put them up in the red lights districts in West Europe, sex-clubs and so on,

The girls especially from old Sovjet republics,
are so poor, it´s ...hmnn..

Anyhow,
Love, passion,

And then Billie ´Lewinsky´ Clinton´s head rolls,
over a popsicle or ..who cares? from a intern,

hhmnn well..how much does he gets paid in the
lecture circuit? 250, 300K? a ´pop´, well, one lecture and he could buy and feed his own little private wet dream for a pretty while..

or ´lease´... for more information on this topic,
the criminology faculty, the prostitution in East Europe research,

Nevertheless,
Love, Passion,

And on a funny note,
an old saying from East Europe:

As a guy, you ALWAYS pay for sex,
only with a ´oochie-coochie´ girl,
it´s UP-FRONT...

(in the sense of; a far better deal than, the
often, sex, emotional, psychological blackmail, from the useally far more ´intelligent´ females, than East Europe bloaks ;)

Love, Passion,

Marek, Polish commentator extraordinaire,

I knew you would get in on this sex thing!

You say that men in Europe pay for sex, up front>

Up Front? Well, I certainly hope so.

Men all over the world pay for sex, up front.

It would to be a 'green prost.....' who collects the dough after the deed.

Am out, soul brother.

Big D.

whohaha
haha,

My man, D.!
a true ´man of the world, cut the crap,
what´s the deal? straight forward, gentleman, instead of the ´Whine Me, Dine Me´ OPP, manipulative, stricks of the trade, where generations of good, men, (nerds?) are casulties of war of the sexes, or at least Missing in Action, till their next, no prenup, divorce´

haha,

Love, Passion, men are from Mars, women...

In naval, maritiem, circles, stories are common, about how mother´s,
instructed their daughters in poor countries,
in the ´art of how to (s)trick a sailor with dollars in his pockets´,
Is that..prostitution..? or just ..common..or good ´business´ sense..?

pretty sad, though that´s how poverty goes,
not much has changed..,

but on the other hand,
more than one sailor retired with his ´fortune´ in a Leonardo´s ´The Beach´ paradise, or haciendas with marble on the floors and a ´staff´ of..

;)
Love, Passion,

´You say that men in Europe pay for sex, up front> Up Front? Well, I certainly hope so.´

No, no no, D, you misunderstand, in East Europe,
with a Visa/Mastercard, well, OPP is a cheap ´commodity´...your name really doesn´t has to be
(snoop) D.ogg..;)

In West Europe, most guys, are sooo..´applepie´,

They fall for the first, ´sex and the city´
´emancipated´ with more testosteron and other man
hormones rushing in through their oversized, under-mannered, mind-body (dis?)connection,
´they call it ´liberated´ and financial independent, I say: please shoosh, you big girl, and put another bonbon in..good for you serotonine and ´stability´ in general..;)

But, for a good ´applepie on Chrismas Eve´
lady, if you can tell the difference...;)
No princess, like a East Eurpean Princess! ;)

Love, Passion,

My man M from Capital Hollanda,

Hey my man, how about an update on life on the terrace?

Here's a status report on life on the ranch.

A few of the lovely lassies are away this week, enjoying some fine (and much deserved) fun time in the Sun.

Amy's in Fort Lauderdale, Tyra in Santiago, Chile, Meg in Costa Rica, Tiana in Honolulu, Tammy in Vegas, Shayna in Acapulco, Mexico. The other happy damsels are content to be near the 'stead and close to your man D.

Am out!

P.S. The IntentBlog community is headed to Puerto Rico in early December. But your man D has got his eyes set on Ocho Rios, Jamaica.

Na Zdrowie!

Vijay, Your ideas may work here in Canada or in any other developed nation. When it come to India laws are not that effective. Well, at least in my experience that is what I have seen.

As long as there is corruption no laws can work well. I would rather prefer a topic on legalizing corruption than legalizing prostitution.

I think we need to do a lot of clean up on the ground even before taking this subject. (for India)

Yogi Selliah

haha,
whohaha,
Well, your Spiritual Polish Prince, has his,
little kingdom, where the girls can bake,
pastry and other heaven-ly, and don´t whine and grine about it, and no out-of-pocket expenses, ladies love to love, beloved, feminine and divine, and humble about it, in disclosed discretion, swinging from a star,
or..;)

But like jello..;) no, just kiddin´,

Love, Passion,

HI Vijay,

I applaud what the Netherlands legislation is attempting to do. But I have a hard time still with criminalizing the purchasing of sex. I just don't see what is wrong with it. I personally have no desire to buy sex, but I really don't care if two consenting adults want to exchange money for sex. As I mentioned it happens legally everywhere in the world.

What you are outlining as the problems with the sex industry happen in many other industries: Children working in factories for next to nothing. What the problem is is not sex, the problem is the theft of anothers labor. These women are having their labor stolen by others and when that happens we call that slavery. ANY time one person or groups of people remove anothers choice, that is slavery and THAT must be erradicated.

THere is a theory of economics (which I subscribe to) called the "Economic Man" or "Natural Man" theory (basically states that people will pursue their own interests no matter what law you pass). You can never fully illegalize certain things economically that people want. That's why prohibition didn't work in the US and that is why the War on Drugs has been such a failure. You can't stop people from smoking something that grows naturally in their yard. And you can't stop people from trading sex for money.

Arguing that the free exchange of money for sex by two informed adults is the same as murder is silly. Murder deprives another of his right to live and prostitution deprives no one of their rights any more than paying $5 for submarine sandwich deprives someone of their rights.

Peace,
Scott.

Framing of law enforcement question is insufficient.

1. Stricter laws in Europe has resulted in clients traveling to places like Thailand.

2. Access to legal system is unequal as indicated most recently by the Guria incident.

3. External visible and quantifiable exploitation does not say anything about what goes on within the four walls of the home.

While laws have their place, I have been leaning towards the question of the larger structures and dynamics that puts the clients and women in place.

Where do women in Goa come from, for example? From the interior regions of AP and Karnataka, among other places. Why? Economics among other things.

Many traffickers are relatives/friends. Why would one sacrifice the life of somebody you know well for the sake of few thousand rupees?

Why is that the trafficking continues when everyone knows that it is illegal and happening in broad daylight? What the responsibility of
the larger society? What are the real options for the women, anyway?

The questions are complex and require approaches that have "depth".

My own thesis trafficking and sexual exploitation are part and parcel
of the larger scheme of things that depends on exploitation. It is connected in fundamental ways to other forms of exploitation -
economic, social, political, gender and physical. Until we address the fundamental inequalities, we are not going to make any dents.

Prostitution is here to stay.

"know of several 25 year old guys, successful & educated, who think they have to put their dick in the woman's navel - I kid you not!"

- which world is 'A FILMMAKER' living in???? would be interesting to know what kind of films this guy makes! :)

In a country like India, where prostitution is linked with the Mafia and Politicians (not a direct relationship) it is difficult to legalize the same.Once we do that, the next question comes up and that is corruption in a so called legalized business.
I would look to increase the entry barriers into this profession and remove the exit barriers. That way you get a regulated industry but with lesser people coming in, and then you bring regulation of this industry and treat it as a regular offence. Maybe i am rambling my head away, but i guess this is what this industry needs.
Also, once the barriers are higher for sex workers, the footfalls become lower hopefully.
And as far as freedom in india, look back at the incident which happenned in Madras over kissing and dancing in public !

Vijay,
"So to bring an end to this demeaning trade we need a two prong strategy, one to stop demand and another to cut off supply."

I wonder if it is at possible to 'bring an end' to prostitution, for very many reasons - no wonder it is referred to as the oldest profession in the world. I think it is better to try and limit the damages that accrue and to make life a lesser burden for those who bear the worst brunt, the women themselves.

The Swedish option of decriminalising the selling of sex and criminalising the buying makes sense, to some extent, if it means prosecute the client not the prostitute. I wonder if that is the intent?

It makes more sense to me to accept it as a way of life which no laws will ever be able to eliminate. Legal acceptance of the trade, like the Dutch have tried and proved to be workable, besides making things safer and helping the women involved has the added advantage of making them feel accepted and being responsible to society. That is, to me, the best of a bad bargain.

As far as India is concerned I think that sex education, as has been sugested by many here, is absolutely essential. The real problem seems to be our hypocritical attitude towards sex - maybe education, starting with parental guidance, is what needs to be addressed first. Everyone seems to be happy with sweeping it under the carpet or giving moral sermons on our heritage, culture etc. It is very much like the state of denial we seem to be in as regards the spread of HIV. Prostitution and AIDS are two hot potatoes for the State. It is left entirely to a few socially conscious individuals and organisations to fight a losing battle, aided only by a show of sympathy from the administration.

Where are you ?

Hi Marek, Hi Diablo, Hi Simon,

Why are my funny men so quiet this morning?

Is it a holiday? Well, they must be enjoying themselves at the bar, or at the harem!

Love,

Cherry.

;)
Well, Cherry,
Simon is properbly on a Astral journey in the 7th Dimension,

Heavy D. and his harem are properbly in 7th heaven,

And for me, it´s laundry day, dear,

and whatcha ya baking today baby...;)

Love,

Hello Marek,

"And for me, it's laundry, dear, and what ya baking today baby...:)"

Sounds like you could use a little feminine help around the apartment.

Today, Cherry is baking a pie of sweet love... oops, just kiddin'.

Love,

Cherry.

Legalize prostitution...both buying and selling.
But CRIMINALIZE the pimps.

It's because societies (even today) are basically hypocritical that they want to call prostitution as an "evil". The people who look down on sex workers are the same who murder in the name of dowry. First solve the killing of the girl child.
Then start talking about criminalizing or de-criminalizing prostitution.

Cherry!
Oh, my goodness! What a mess this place is!
Dust upon our faces!
It needs a woman's touch.
Oh! The atmosphere is sad and ghostly.
What is needed mostly
Is the woman's touch.
What a sight this room is!
Show me where the broom is!
Find a can of Gold Dust
And we'll chase the old dust.
Plain to see it needs the woman's touch.
Simon and Diablo's coming,
so we want to clean up,
Brighten all the scene up
With the woman's touch.

Color, charm, and such,

Cherry we need your woman's touch!!

Love, Passion and good spiritual vibrations,
Ps. What you wearing..dear, while baking..
or are you..oops, just kiddin'! ;)

Marek, you charmer,

"What you weraing...?"

Why do you need to know, Marek?

Or better still, what would you want me to wear?

Love,

Cherry.

DOB: May, 1983.

Cherry,
my sweet applepie girl..,
in our fantasy,
please don´t picture this,
you are wearing,
onderneath the apron..,
mmnhnn...
and I..-

I bet you are a Princess in the kitchen..

..and I´m not talking about the hot, sweeeet, nasty.. heavenly scent coming out of the oven..

Didn´t your mamma never tell ya..?, watch out for
those polish boys..they steal your..applepie..
and you be..about it..;)

Love, Passion..and.;)

Cherry, sweety,
are you a ..Taurus? or..?
Patient and reliable?
Warmhearted and loving?
Persistent and determined?
Placid and security loving?

let´s see what the stars say..

Taurus & Scorpio

There's a lot of attraction in this match between two naturally reserved, determined,
and physically oriented signs,
and great potential for domestic success.
Both value financial prosperity and hard work. But if they don't make beautiful music together immediately, a terrible uproar is imminent. Intuitive, emotional Scorpio accumulates negative feelings until they reach critical mass. If Taurus is not ready to handle a meltdown, Scorpio's tenacity will be unbearable and even the Bull will give up. It's either heaven or hell: nothing in between.

heaven or..nothing in between..hmnnn..

Watcha think, dear? or are you ..a gem..ini?

Love, Passion and sweet spiritual vibrations,

MSN astrology sucks!

Taurus and Scorpio

When Taurus and Scorpio come together in a love affair, their union is nothing if not intense, whether that's in a positive or a negative way. They are opposite Signs in the Zodiac, giving them a special, complex connection. They can combine to make a whole, each partner's strengths balancing the other's weaknesses. Their sexual attraction is likely to be off the charts! Taurus and Scorpio have tons in common, but because their personalities are so powerful, they often swing between passionate love and passionate disagreement!

Taurus and Scorpio both have deep desires, Taurus for possessions and Scorpio for power. They're both concerned with wealth and resources, and they're both intensely passionate about all sorts of things. Taurus is a bit more self-focused than Scorpio, who is more concerned with their lover and immediate family. Both of these Signs have a great, deep-rooted need for security in a relationship, but with slightly different focuses. While Taurus prizes honesty and forthrightness and abhors infidelity, Scorpio loves to be mysterious. A Scorpio's need for security is more about the need to be constantly reassured that their emotional connection with their loved one is strong. The good thing is, Taurus needs this reassurance too -- and is also willing to provide it for their Scorpio lover.

Taurus is ruled by Venus (Love and Money) and Scorpio is ruled by Mars (Passion) and Pluto (Power). This combination is very intense, thanks to Pluto's influence, but it's an excellent balance of masculine and feminine energy. Scorpio and Taurus together form the basis of all love relationships -- love and passion. Venus and Mars go well together; Venus is about the beauty of romance, and Mars is about the passion of romance. Scorpio is smoldering and intense (and intensely sexual), and Taurus, a sensual and tireless lover, is attracted to this intensity. In turn, Scorpio enjoys the devotion inherent in Venus-ruled Taurus.

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Love,
and Passion..

.double dare ya...

but only..

if you dare..?.

Love, Passion? and ..can you bake..a picture ;)

Hello Playboy Marek,

You've been conspicuously quiet lately. So what ya up to? It must be late at night in Amsterdam huh? and you must be sleepin', or just tired from all that clenin' over the weekend?

Love,

Cherry.

;)
Cherry, Sugarpie,
honeybunch,
indeed, great weekend, what about yourself, princess, how were the stars..?

I wish i had an ice-cream,
that looked just like you,
Sweet tastin chocolate, all the way though
i'd lick you slow, from head to toe

Clap ya hands lets wack ya arm's up!

My ice cream
Just the way i like it

Sweet dreams from this don't wake me,
you couldn't even if you tried to shake me,
What do ya want coz im in a deep sleep,
no nighmare here damn im talkin chocolate treats,
Slick n slippery think its gotta be,
its meditory that i make her a part of me,
i'll make the dream last coz it seems,
i can only have her in my ice cream dreams...

of..
.Love..or..Passion..;)

Marek,

You keep talking the talk, but can you walk the walk?

You seem to like to eat applepies and lick icecream. What's your favorite flavor?

Love,

Cherry.

'.. You keep talking the talk, but can you walk the walk?..'

'.. You keep talking the talk, but can you walk the walk?..'

'.. You keep talking the talk, but can you walk the walk?..'

girls.. ;0

Is the Kama Sutra about pleasure..?
Is the Tantra enlightenend..?
Was the pope Polish..?

Cherry, sweetheart,

A Polish Gentleman doesn't play..;)

A: with other people's heart's ...?
B: bluff poker...?
C: hard to get..?
D: none of the above,
amaretto, pistache or cherry.?

What's your ..flava..?

The mac’s back wid da flava of the year!
Here we go there’s a party over here,

Oh yes there is:(party all night. party all night. party all night)
Ain’t got no time to thinkso I grab a drink they’ve got the type that I like and I ain’t gonna waste not time back in the corner of the room i see the one and she makes my heart go boom!one smile and
Leavin’ all my friends behind
Ooh there’s somethin’ special ’bout ..

cherry icecream! ;)

Throw ya hands in the air!

If ya know ya got the flava take it all the way with a man like dre flavour up in you ear for the year. no doubt’cos I got the wack jam so turn the party out I’d like to get with u get busy get down i wanna..

..Love, Passion!

Relation name is formal. Actual relation name is love or money.

I live in the state of Nevada (US). Prostitution is legal here outside of city limits. I believe it's the best way to go. There are several brothels in our area and, from what I can tell, they provide a safe, clean, regulated environment something that can never be said when pimps run their business on the streets.

vijay,

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