Anupam:

I believe you! If the state of mind affects how you act - then how you act should affect the state of mind too!!

I remember when I was just out of school and going through a rough patch - I also looked at doing something similar... I found myself smiling a sideways "wry-kinda" smile (much like Raj Kapoor's).. the one of a broken or dejected man. I purposefully worked on myself to change it to a full smile .. end-to-end (something like Shashi Kapoor's) .. After a few weeks - I did start seeing a change in my overall state of mind in how I accepted a situation - from that of a feeling of a man dejected to that of a man who was completely enjoying life no matter what the "color".

What intrigued me was how the "blind" man "saw" your restlessness?!

I remember an interview of the famous Hindi Poet Neeraj - where he once said that he was going to a village.. and as he turned a corner near a house - he bumped into an old lady.. he felt bad and touched her feet and asked for her forgiveness.. and she blessed him by placing her hand on his hand. She soon walked hurriedly into a house.. and almost instantly there were loud cries from there. He went in and found that the man of the house had just died! He inquired for that old lady.. but neither was she there.. nobody knew of her or seen her. He said in the end - that maybe that day he had been blessed by Death herself!

Such incidents make me feel that there something that we have not been able to see from our "eyes wide open"!

Cheers,
Desh
Personal Blog: www.Drishtikone.com

Very interesting post Anupam. For me it shows how much we invest ourselves in things utterly trivial, which appear so important to us - namely the mind and body. Like the blind guy you met, it is so easy to let go and - just be - in the beautiful state of happiness and peace that we are made up of.

If you start changing a shirt or some other action - to "up" your mood/state of mind, pretty soon the mind may find another "game" to shoot the new path down. Nah..forget it...resistance and such other things are set loose by the mind. Inevitable it is.

But just being and observing what the games, the mind and body play, and being able to enjoy it could be the path wherein whatever shirt you wear will always find you sailing in tranquil serenity.

My 2c.

Poignant. I wonder if you ever met that man again...

anupam ji,

behind senses, behind feelings, behind intellect, behind intelligence sits the ultimate seer. one never knows at which place the one sitting besides you is really sitting and seeing things.

hi navin, some for you to read.

harb

Hi Anupam,

thata a lovely story.

it must have shocked you to more vigorously pursue your dream.

if so then I thank the blind man for he gave us such a wonderful actor like you.

and yes, i too feel better when i wear red. also black.

wow, im not sure why but this story moved me to tears. it's amazing from so many different angles. my heart goes out to that blind man, in a crowded subway in the middle of bombay, trying to navigate his way. how sad that someone yelled at him, and he had to apologize because he was blind (i think that's the part that made me cry).

on another level, the man must have been so incredibly in tune with the energy you were giving him, and i think he was probably very spiritually advanced, and was able to "see" your soul despite being blind.

it's amazing how you can have the most profound spiritual experiences in the least likely places and times. im not normally into sappy stories, but this one really pierced my heart for some reason. thank-you for sharing it.

Dear Anupamji....Let me express my sentiment first plz "Aap aaye Bahar aayi". It's nothing short of an Honor for someone like me...who's been An Avid admirer of yours. Not just for the Incredibly gifted actor...but more so For The Human being you're!! I do know you're a Very Genuine man amongst a community which is predominantly Glamorous..Sunil Dutt is one who comes readily to mind.

Yes, blind people are supposed to have extra sharp senses as a compensatory mechanism. Yeah, the energy he must have sensed from you must have got that out of him. Thanks for sharing that wonderful story here.

It was news for me, and maybe many others here that you had that kind of struggle. Anupamji...Ek bahut pyaari cheez mujhe aaj tak yaad hai which you said in one of the interviews. Your father you said had taught you...agar tumse zyaada paisewaale ya succesful logon ko dekhkar dukhi othe vho tu zara unki taraf ek baar dekho jho tumse zyaada unfortunate hai, and you'll be happy. I still remember that...and also the Values you talk abt as a child you learnt becoz it was not given to you easily. Same here. Values!! Jho aaj ki duniya se dheere kum vho rahi hai.

Love..Sachin

Hello to Harb and Aachi! I have missed you!

Dear Anupam,
Thank you for this story, this little 'slice of life' experience, which I can relate to completely. I have met - only once, several people, whose Presence have touched me to the core, and imparted a Truth that stays with me still.

Truly, the gift in the lessons of being present to another, even in a seeming 'chance encounter' can leave an indelible Feeling, to enrich our Understanding.

I found a note once, tucked under twigs in a park I often walk in. I had stopped to rest, and breathe in the air, and there it caught my eye, a bit of paper nestled neatly within leaves. I reached for it, thinking perhaps it was garbage. Oh no - far from it. It was a written message, containing Words that continue to sear me.

Shall I tell you what the message said?

Love and Blessings,
~ Kate

Mahra, bade' nafeez kath boznovu tohe'. Lasyu. rahul pandita

wow! A short, powerful story in a few paragraphs; leaving me wanting a continuing, and becoming breathless, at the magique of that moment!

Just at a time, when I am at my low to design covers(books +?) well, to read your story, and Gautam's successful climb up the summit today, I am so deliciously inspired, again and again by the brilliant colourful posts of Intent's quality of blogs from contributors!

Thankyou for the uplifting share.

North

k, thank you. feels so nice to be welcome!

Harb, not much time left, to book-release date! HOW many butterflies tickling your innards with great anticipation; this moment?

North

Anupamji,
Thank you for sharing such a wonderful story. It is so true that colors make all the difference in life. Whenever I see bright colors I can instantly see the change in my mood and attitude. That is why spring and summer are my favorite seasons.

Happiness is such a thing that without it life is such a drag. When I am in a good mood it reflects on what ever and every thing I do. I am a better person and that helps people around me and myself. For me happiness is living a simple life, it has worked for me. It is a life that is less stressful and a life with needless distraction.

A genuine smile is always on a happy persons face. Smile! It is contagious. Pass on a smile it works wonders. Here are few jokes that my daughters told me, hope it makes you smile. Have a great day everyone.
Esther.

Why did Beethoven get rid of his chickens?
Because they said Bach, Bach, Bach.

The math teacher saw that little Johnny wasn't paying attention in class. She called on him and said, "Johnny! What are 4, 2, 28 and 44?"
Little Johnny quickly replied, "NBC, CBS, HBO and the Cartoon Network!"

What is black & white, black & white, black & white?
Penguins rolling down a hill!

Why is it dangerous to put the letter "M" into the refrigerator?
Because it changes ice into Mice!

somehow i have never liked you Mr.anupam kher. I dont know why, i never could relate to you, i never felt you were genuine and never enjoyed your performances, not even "maine gandhi ko nahin maara".

But still as i walk around churchgate and travel in the same trains, trying to write my scripts, become the film maker i want to be and struggling just the way u did many years ago, i feel maybe i am jealous of what youve become (successful) just like the successful people i see in bollywood strutting around in their pajeros and designer glasses. There is a bitterness, i want to know if you ever felt it, it is sad, maybe even pathetic, i feel success here is so undeserved, maybe that's why i feel the way i do abt actors & directors here, maybe for a few that i truly admire.

swaroopkanchi.blogspot.com

north, really i am at a stage where butterflies hardly tickle..or they tickle always...

just now they were tickling when i spent an hour on what people call something like dervish dance...

though then the body began to ache and i set it right with some 'spirit' mantra...(btw, old monk is a good spirit lol).

Wow, Anupam - great story! Thank you for sharing.

I, in fact, am moving to los angeles in 8 days to do the very same thing. Maybe I'll start wearing red from the get-go. :).

Hi Anupam,beautiful story. Gave me an insight into your struggles.Two people come to mind. One is Helen Keller who was both blind and deaf. Her life story is very interesting.People credit her for altering our perception for the people who have disabilities. She has written many books.They say she had a fully developed sixth sense.They also say she remapped the boundaries of sight and sound.Could be because of her developed sixth sence.

Another person who came to mind is Awalokiteshwara, the Buddha of thousands of eyes. He had eyes everywhere. As I was reading the description of the otherside I read that astral beings have eyes in their skin.Most interesting concept. Our present Dalai Lama is supposed to be reincarnated Awalokiteshwara according to Tibetan Buddhism.

Thank you Anupam for an interesting story. God bless.

My best wishes to you, Ameya...

May your potential manifest...

-Hari

HI ANUPAM SIR,

BEAUTIFUL STORY...THANK YOU.

AN AMAZING INSIGHT BECAUSE COLOUR IS GENERATED IN THE BRAIN, DARK COLORS MAY CAUSE THE NEURONS TO FIRE IN A WAY THAT EFFECT THE WAY WE FEEL. ANY TAKERS....

GOOD LUCK AMEYA, HOW EXCITING!!!.

"Shall I tell you what the message said?"

posted by Kate.

Dear Kate,

Please do!

Kate, hello, where are you? Please do tell us what the message said. God bless.

Beautiful story... but unlikely to be true. Unless the blind person was parroting something that he heard from a sighted person, his perception and understanding of colour is too limited to result in the kind of profound situation and statements that you mention.

Kate, please share with us the words that continue to sear you.Thank you , Anupam for sharing your lovely story.

Love to all

Vish I beg to differ.....

I have taught blind and visually impaired children for 29 years. Colors are taught from an early age. We teach a blind child about colors to the point that one can "feel" them.

One can relate them to all sorts of things in life.

Check out this childrens book.....Adventures in Color....Hailstones and Halibut Bones by Mary O'Neill....you will know what I mean after you see this.

This blind man could most likely pick up on the restlessness, feel it and hear ones tone of voice.

There is an awareness of things we take for granted in our lives when one loses their sight...but it is only sight and not a mind.

Joanie

beautiful article, anupam...if we look through all our lives, events have been such triggers....for so many turns, puases, learnings and so on....

Very interesting & mysterious incidence!

And i needed something like this these days. ; - )

Cheers, Rohit

Dear Ron, and geeta and Seascape,
I have wondered sometimes, how I find myself walking in ways that bring me to people, events, things - that Show me - Life is Full - and for the gemini girl I am - teeming with Hope and renewal.

I was so curious at the paper, because as I bent closer, I could tell right away, it was a note. It was nicely folded, and I knelt on the leaves, and I opened it. And this is what it said:

"Now that I have found you I don't want to let you go, because nothing compares to you".

Oh, my - it was to me so romantic a message, and spiritual too - and I immediately realized it had been placed there for a certain someone special to read! I did tuck the note back as I had discovered it.

But as I continued on my walk, a host of thoughts and scenarios filled my mind. I smiled just to think of the beloved finding the note. More so, I in those moments - I became the Beloved.

When you are completely immersed in Love, isn't that Feeling - that nothing can compare to the Wholeness, Acceptance, Comfort, of the feelings and state of Real Love - so complete and delightful. It is heavenly.

So now you can see, why that note has stayed with me these 4 years later.

With love,
~ Kate

well nice posts and comments ...but u cant get rid of your worries and troubles by simply putting on some colorful clothes or so.
i think i am facing the most difficult times of my life and simply cant find a way out..therefore those who come outta troubles, cherish these tiny winy things but those, like my self, who see no way out nor hope spend there lives like me ....*numb*

take care!!

Sir,

Extremely insightful and moving.

A wonderful share.

That folded paper was left by me Kate:)))

Hi Anupam

Thanks for this. Someone close to me has had a few difficulties recently. When I shared this with him, he was very appreciative.

Cheers, Heather

Dear Joanie,

I hate to be a wet blanket but we sometimes romanticise the wrong things about disabled people. I respect your experience and my experience in terms of time spent is much less than yours. But we have been working on colour communication to the visually impaired, in a very focussed way.

It is not that the blind are not aware about or cannot understand the concept of colour. But their understanding of the emotion of joy arising out of an experience of colour is most unlikely. At best they could have been fed with this thought by a sighted person.

But the flow of the story is so beautiful that the blind person in it seems to be relating from his own experience of colour... which is unlikely.

Pls view my comments in the context of these quotes in the story

"sometimes a colourful shirt can change your state of mind."

"get off my foot, can't you see you are standing on it."

"I am sorry I didn't see. I am blind."

Dear Anupam,
Red is one of my fav colors too! And I share the sentiments of Sachin that "Aap aaye bahaar aayi" ("You've brought spring with you"....for the western readers).
That was a wonderful share, Anupam, specially for readers like me, Ameya, Kate, Swaroop who are at the beginning of their film careers. Very inspiring. I am currently in the process of shifting my residence to Bombay. I remember having congratulated Kironji after we came back on the same flight from Johannesburg, where she had won some award ( I think best actress for Devdas, if I correctly remember). Would love to work with you some day. :)

I was missing seeing posts that caught my interest on this site ever since Shekhar has been location hunting in London, but was pleasantly surprised to see your post here. Welcome.

Dear Ameya, Kate & Swaroop,
Great to know that all of you are also chasing your dreams like me. I am sure they will all come true someday soon, just like Anupam's did. :)

Cheers!
Navin

Hi Navin,

Great to have you back.

Which part of a film career are you looking at exactly... actor, writer, technical/production crew... which one? If you don't mind sharing it, that is.

Just curious. Because something similar is brewing in my mind as well.

Wow, Anupam. That is a great story!

Ameya, good luck with your move. :)

Love, Kristin

Thanks for all the goode luck wishes, you beautiful people! Best of luck to all of you in achieving your dreams as well. :)

Love,
Ameya

Good to have you back Navin! I've always liked the Clarity and the Truthfulness with which you write from Day1...not just of recent, and I do think I've expressed this to you long time back too.

Yes...that path which you people are on, the industry which is....it's tough. Merit alone doesn't do. I can show you scores of them who are plain mediocre, but have achieved great success in that industry, and scores of them who are profusely talented but no luck, no favors from Destiny. Well...I think most wud agree on this in the Industry, it's Undeniable. I remember Shekhar himself saying...there are perhaps tonnes of Shekhars who didn't have the luck to come as far as he has. That's life....as the aphorism goes...Life's like that!!

Love..Sachin

Dear Anuji,
Totally inspiring...thank you for sharing. Hope to hear some more from you! Great write!

I am going to buy a red tee shirt soon:)

Namaste,
Cinda

Oh, I am so grateful Anuji that you finally got hired to work in the movies...your acting is deeping joyful and a pleasure to experience.

Have a beautiful week...
Cinda

Hey Hey Cinda....Maybe you do not know much abt him as I read your post...just to clear the confusion. He's a Stalwart here in the hindi cinema. The story he has written dates back to more than 20yrs, becoz that is when he hit the hindi cinema with a Bang which he is. He's almost retired from films now. He was the chairman of the Censor board of films recently and in disgust he resigned. He recently got an Award from Dalai lama...stress is not on the award...but when people like Dalai Lama give it to him becoz he's been such a great benefactor to the society, you can get an Idea of what he is like.

Cinda....He's a Class Apart Man in his talents...the most beautiful thing I like abt him is the way he connects with the common man and the concerns he expresses abt the present times we are living in.

Just curious are you an Indian migrated to States? or?

Take care..Sachin

Kate, beautiful note.You are so right about it being either spiritual or romantic.God bless.

Dear Geeta...Kate said Romantic and Spiritual too, not either of the two. Have a look again.

Love..Sachin

Dear Sachin,
Thank you for the information.
Whether it was 20 years ago or yesterday, no difference to me. My comment related to how I feel about what he wrote and his acting in the films I saw.

My location or culture is not of importance, hopefully, if anyone here speaks with their heart in kindness, it would be viewed as such.

I am glad you know Anuji this well...
"the most beautiful thing I like abt him is the way he connects with the common man and the concerns he expresses abt the present times we are living in."

Thank you Sachin.

Namaste,
Cinda

Red T-Shirt

http://ravikopra.blogspot.com/

http://ravikopra.blogspot.com/2006/01/red-t-shirt.html

Cinda Your Comment was like...I'm happy to know Deepakji you finally got a website to write what you wanted to. One needs to realize abt Whom are we talking abt. It isn't right in Ignorance to speak like that abt those People who are So Accomplished and have done so much in their lives.

Namaste..Sachin

Dear Soultrip,
Thanks for your warm welcome. As I've disclosed on this site earlier, I am an established Stock Market Consultant and give investment advice to my clients, some of them HNIs (High Net Worth individuals). Some of the shares I bought for my clients doubled/tripled during the last one year or so. Apart from this, I have also acted in three telefilms so far in leading roles, anchored television shows, organised and directed fashion shows, modelled in ad-films in the past.

It is to pursue this second career more seriously that I'm now shifting my residence to Bombay. God willing, by first week of February, I should be comfortably settled here. I have taken a place in Shastri Nagar, Lokhandwala, Andheri west (cancelled the earlier one in Kalyan complex, Yari Road, Versova as Shastri Nagar is much more up mkt.)I am open to acting offers and also would love to assist someone like Shekhar in Direction too. Would also love to act in commercials and music videos. I have written a movie script and am a member of the Indian Film Writers' Association. Hope to find some big producers to back my script. Am in touch with a couple of them who are interested.

Hope this answers your query. :)

Dear Sachin,
You know that the feeling is mutual. :) I am usually quite open about my feelings and impressions about people, so people know where they stand with me. And you are right that it's all about a mysterious phenomenon called "Destiny". Being a student of Astrology I have devoted a lot of time in deciphering this secret code. Hope I will be able to master it before I leave this planet. ;)

Dear Anupam,
Got to know a few days back that you are going to play a dwarf in the forthcoming movie, "Jaan-e-Man" co-starring Preity Zinta, Salman Khan and Akshay Kumar. It's a very challanging role and I wish you all the best for it. I think the last person to have successfully portrayed such a role was the great Kamal Haasan in "Appu Raja".
I have a great role for you in the movie script I have written and if you are interested to hear it, you can email me at cosmicsuperstar@gmail.com

Cheers!
Navin

Navin,

A big shout for the days ahead. Hope you rock!

Fist up.

navin, ok buddy, so you seem to be in the thick of things! best wishes!!

this is OUR year!

harb

Dear Harb and Soultrip,
Thanks and a Big Yeah to that!
Soultrip you said you were thinking about something on similar lines. I would just say, follow your heart (inner voice), buds.....it's never wrong.

Cheers!
Navin

Yes Navin....I agree with what you said. I've heard a lot abt Astro being used in Stock markets and it works great. A few months back I think it was predicted the sensex wud touch high and it did.

I've often noticed a Compactness in your writing and a Solidarity in whatever you speak....only if you know well on the subject, you will speak and that Invariably has Credibility. I did notice you were strong in the basics of Astro...and generally I can make out how good is one in checking with the basics of any field a person is in. As you had talked before it's an Occult subject like many others...we do not have concrete evidence, it's more of Empirical. This is where Faith and Inner voice come into play. Isn't it?

It has helped me IMMENSELY in my life, my choices...and the way I can predict the gross features of any chart Navin..it's close to 100%, No kidding. Bull's eye! People are Stunned! How can you know Sachin? After all it's based entirely on Karma and Past lives.

I'm sure you must have studied your chart in depth..so you wud know which are your biggest strengths and the weak points. With this, we've to play our cards rt, more focus on the Strong cards. I've done the same in my life, the couple of weak cards in my chart have really troubled me. I wish you All the best on your path, and more so in the coming months and may your Dreams come true!

Cheers to you...Sachin

Thank you Sachin,
I will do some research on Anuji.
Cinda

You're So blunt defensive and dull Cinda..you still didn't get the point. It's not abt research....it was primarily abt reading the post and the thread well. His opening lines "Story from my struggling days..." and what was written abt him in the thread wud have given a clear idea to any person with senses open.

Dear Cinda, you have more grace in your pinky finger than some people have, in their whole structure!

Not sure why Sachin is mentally and emotionally freaking on you Cinda?

I read this entire blog, three times to find out "why" he's talking so low towards you?

Sadly, I see no "reasoning" for Sachins attacks on you in this manner he's using?

As a matter of fact, I am giving my head a shake, because I just don't understand what he's doing to you, OR for why he's doing it?

YOU said nothing derogatory, nor negative what-so-ever!! IF anything, I thought your post to the story, quite humble and precisely praising.

This is all so abusinlgy unbelievable Sachin, I can't believe some of your responses to people, for no reason.

Please, just know Cinda; "we know" who the "dull one" is here, and who isn't, and you, dear Cinda, are far from dull.

Cinda, I think you are wonderful, and a gifted teacher!

I've known you for so many years, and have never, seen you hurt anyone for any reason!

Cinda, I've witnessed nothing but patience and love and support come from you--there is nothing existing, which warrants Sachins pathetic behaviour on you!!

This kind of behaviour angers me Sachin, who do you think you are, to hurt people so carelessly this way? Who do you think you are, to demean and demoralize people here or anywhere?

Sachin-there is no word to describe someone like you.

Cinda, you have my utmost respect, admiration and love, for your pure heart, mind and spirit!

North

Stay Away from Me North!! There's Enough of your Crappy Miserable Projection tolerated here. If I'm silent doesn't mean you can talk anything you want. There's a limit to it.

Will Report abt this to Mallika and Let her Decide.

Mallika, I was just defending Cinda, from being "hit" for nothing by Sachin, read the thread sometime, and see who needs a down-talking to, it's NOT me Mallika! Sachin, I have no respect for you; so technically your presence and reply is inconsequential to my well-being; but, I do care for Cinda; and will defend her against you, anytime, anywhere!

North

Dear Anupam Kher, once again, I quite enjoyed reading your epiphany; I do hope we will read more such as this from you in the near future; and much continued success's to you in 2006!

North

Dear North,
Thank you deeply, I am moved to tears, you have no idea how this will stick with me for a very long time. I am not sure what happened with the view Sachin has taken on my replies...I was also beginning to question myself and shaking my head. Even though I have also been in the presence of the Dalia Lama and other Elevated Spiritual Masters, perhaps Sachin also has something for me to learn. Some time ago, one of my Gurus told me, we must always look for the lesson, no matter how terrible or joyful the situation.
Given that, I will try to learn from this and move on.

Sachin, sorry if I have offended this post and Anuji, in any way shape or form, it was not my intention...love and prayers to you.

North, my dear friend, I love you...your words reflect your true Being, this act will be remembered always.

Mallika, thank you.

{{{warm embracce to all}}}

Cinda

Dear Cinda,
You have a beautiful heart, and wonderful countenance.
These colors I can 'see' and feel, as Anupam Kher writes in this post.
We all have facets to hold up to the light, as we learn, and grow and share.
With love to you,
~ Kate

Cinda: Elegant, my dear, very elegant! Dave

Good stuff Cinda! Gosh! You're one of the rare women here perhaps who talked abt learning. Otherwise it's just blind defending of the Ego, without a thought to the matter.

Read again in my Posts where I was trying to clear the confusion and then got offended by your callous reply. It is all clear in my posts. For heaven's sake don't think with your Emotions.....think with a clear head.

It is Insulting to talk all this here on this thread of Anupamji as Mallika had pointed out. We can talk this somewhere else on "Where ru Shekhar?"thread or on the email mine is nidarr@yahoo.com but not this thread.

You STAY AWAY from me North!

Thanks Cinda,
Sachin

Do you understand anything abt Projection Cinda?

Cinda,

Sometimes people get stuck in a perception of what is not.

I have read this thread thoroughly as I do all threads I participate in.

There is nothing you have done or said here that warrants the negative reaction you received.

You have maintained that being which you are. A magnificent being.

Forgiveness is the lesson. Not doubt.

Oh and Cinda,

I don't mean "sorry".

I mean forgiveness.

What came your way, for no "apparent" reason, is something that could lead me to vile hatred and animosity toward the individual projecting their poisonous delusion toward me.

I could stew for weeks just thinking of how wronged I was.

The only freedom I have from the stewing and the poison they spit at me is to see their own pain and pray for them. This is the forgiveness I mean.

Hi every one,
just to say, all of you are special people and I know will forgive and forget and move on..
Cinda, I hope you will enjoy the interview with anupam-I was planning to actually post it last week but had to be away because of being sick and sudha's tests and stuff. I extended my stay in Michigan and got back just this weekend. Also I believe every one here is well intentioned and some people are positively inspiring, Laurence you especially in the way you have turned so much into positive energy..your daughter is poetry in motion. I saw the short clips and she is going to be a heartbreaker.
love to all..

lots of love to all.

Kavita...those here who Really Understand what Projection is....in a Flash they can catch who is Projecting.

Thanks..Sachin

Dear Cinda, You are a rare, and kind woman I've come to know and admire over many years watching you offer your grace to each and all, with utmost caring and depth.

You are the one that is loved, Dear Cinda;

I'm just a dissolved old soul with nothing specific or significant to offer, other than defend when I see an injustice being done; and talk about social/political issues i see stagnating across every political forum.

You on the other hand, give a light that radiates in your kind words, always and all ways!

North

north, cinda,

cinda, in this thread perhaps you were not to learn something but teach. i, like lpb have learnt something from you here. as north said, you must be a great teacher.

north, here you have really acted from the heart. i too could not find anything amiss in cinda's thread, perhaps it all was because of different ways of using the english words.

love to you both. harb

Hi Harb, thanks for taking the time to read the thread, to see what "happened" and why I stood up for Cinda; she's just too damned sweet to be treated so rough; and I'm just too damned diamon-in-the-rough to be sweeter!

Love backatcha Harb, and thanks, this means a lot.

North

Only for those: To whom Emotions,Blind defence of the Unhealthy ego are less imp than simple logic, CLEAR ATTENTIVE READING OF THE POST...wud resonate with this....

I had to clear that confusion abt him. As told there in the thread...it was like writing something silly abt Dear Deepak. Any sensible person can see thru' what transpired there. Anupam Kher hired for movies?? When it was so clearly written in his opening lines "My struggling days..." It's like saying Shekhar I'm glad that you got hired for directing a film.

My whole point is...when it was written clearly by him and also what people had to write abt the Great man..you still hold onto your Ignorant statements.

Truly..Sachin

Hi Sachin

I think this whole thing has been a misunderstanding.

When I read Cinda's two initial comments, I note that she uses the honorific "Ji" when addressing Anupam, which shows she's aware of Anupam's revered status. Her second comment was a continuation of the first (posted 2 minutes later). When read together, the two-part comment says (this is my restated understanding of what she meant to communicate): Hello, respected Anupam, I'm happy that you're writing here, and I hope you will continue. I am inspired by your story, and it's so wonderful that you were hired in films after that discouraging start. I've seen many of your films, and I've always enjoyed your work. I am very excited that you wrote here, and am jumping around with joy at the chance to speak to you.

When I read your response to Cinda's two-part comment, it reads as if you were focused only on the second comment, and indeed only on the first sentence of the second comment. If that sentence is read out of context, it might suggest that Cinda did not know who Anupam was.

Yet in the last line of her second comment, she says: "...your acting is deeping joyful and a pleasure to experience.". Don't you think that indicates that Cinda knows exactly who Anupam Kher is, that she completely understands the quality of his acting, and (this last is implied) she knows exactly how important it is to see his post here on Intent? (By the way, I think "deeping" was a typo, that she meant "deeply".)

By not giving full attention to that last line of Cinda's second comment -- where Cinda shows she knows about Anupam Kher, and holds him in high esteem -- perhaps you put yourself in the way of missing the essence of her communication. And you chastised her, as a result.

Cinda's response to you was respectful and kind. She did not point out your misreading of her comments, instead she tried to make peace. A bit of annoyance that you didn't read her correctly is felt in her response, though. Perhaps you picked up on the annoyance bit, and felt "blown off" by her, so responded with more heat. In later replies, you sometimes used a word or two which, though perhaps acceptable in non-US versions of English, are actually highly insulting to US readers -- words like "ignorant" or "dull".

Dear Sachin, please read only each of Cinda's posts on this thread. You will see in her comments absolutely no malice, and a good understanding of who and what Anupam Kher is, even before you docked her so hard. You will see consistent kindness and respect towards yourself.

You know what, Sachin? You're what we call "hot-headed" in the US. I don't know if that would be insulting in the Indian flavor of English -- it's not meant to be. It means you have a lot of fire in your spirit. Cinda's respectful, affectionate and happy two-part comment to Anupum's story was somehow oxygen to your fire, and that fire is not completely out. Cinda still holds her peace. Please, Sachin, can you hold yours?

As to why the words "ignorant" or "dull" might be insulting to a US reader: please recall that the US originated as British colonies. The people who settled in the colonies were considered backward, ignorant and dull by many Britons. Not only did the people of this country feel the attitudinal insult, they also felt and suffered under the reality of policies biased by that attitude -- thus our revolutionary war. (Does this not sound familiar?) In any case, because of this history, we still have a strong sensitivity to words that carry any flavor of denegration or condescension towards our intelligence and understanding. Perhaps those words are often deserved now, given the current poor performance of our educational system, but we reserve the right to feel them strongly, nonetheless, based on our history.

Cheers, peaces and best wishes, Heather

garbage - for god's sake drop all this crap about words

http://ravikopra.blogspot.com/2006/01/garbage-for-gods-sake-drop-all-this.html

Hi Heather....You're correct in knowing Cinda did know few things abt him. The first sentence shud have read...got hired after that struggle.

My response...

Hey Hey Cinda....Maybe you do not know much abt him as I read your post...just to clear the confusion. He's a Stalwart here in the hindi cinema. The story he has written dates back to more than 20yrs, becoz that is when he hit the hindi cinema with a Bang which he is. He's almost retired from films now. He was the chairman of the Censor board of films recently and in disgust he resigned. He recently got an Award from Dalai lama...stress is not on the award...but when people like Dalai Lama give it to him becoz he's been such a great benefactor to the society, you can get an Idea of what he is like.

Cinda....He's a Class Apart Man in his talents...the most beautiful thing I like abt him is the way he connects with the common man and the concerns he expresses abt the present times we are living in.

Just curious are you an Indian migrated to States? or?

Take care..Sachin

HEATHER.....Check on my words there "Maybe...just to clear the confusion" and then I write the good things abt the honorable man.

The following statements in Her response to my post...you call it respectufl and kind??

Dear Sachin,
Thank you for the information.
Whether it was 20 years ago or yesterday, no difference to me. My comment related to how I feel about what he wrote and his acting in the films I saw.

My location or culture is not of importance, hopefully, if anyone here speaks with their heart in kindness, it would be viewed as such.

.........Yes Heather that is very Respectful, kind and humble and very open.

Then in the following....she said I'll do research on him. Who is asking her to do research Heather?? Is that respectful? Huh?

She cud have nicely answered in the first place itself when I said "Just to clear the confusion". You can't understand that?

Yeah Respectful, courteous not at all Biased...very objective. You find all this in Abundance on this site!!!

And yes I'm also joing the band wagon of "All emotions...less sense and logic".

Here it goes: Oh Heather You're so Kind...you're So wise...You're more of a teacher than a student, even if it means not respectful and Ignorant at times...it's ok If the teacher is that good...the students will also be that good. Even when someone confesses to be Foolish, it still goes...You're So wise full of Wisdom. Yes, that's the Wisdom of 21st century!

I'm coming to join that Band Wagon now!!

Love...Sachin

Hi, Sachin

Yes, the part you quoted from her reply is the part where one can read her annoyance at being misread. It was humble, kind and respectful, nonetheless! She didn't say you were dull for having misread. ;)

Now an end to this, for me. :)

Cheers, Heather

Oh Heather...The Beautiful Wise Heather full of Justice, one who wud see both sides of the party. Do you understand much abt Projection? I wud guess after reading your posts.

Do you have any Idea what it can do to the Atmosphere of a place? Do you see the Malice in some of the posts on the site?? Oh The Wise Justice Heather...Have you really been Unbiased in seeing where all the Malice lies.

Who understands and Who cares? When I've talked so much abt this. The Friends here So called friends don't care and want to know anything abt that miserable ailment, how it can destroy oneself primarily and whoever gets into that whirl. The friends themselves don't care abt it....why wud the admin and anyone care at the forum here?

You at least have the Courtesy Plz to answer the questions I asked Dear Heather...

Love...Sachin

You're no Different Heather...no Different from those of the band wagon. It's not called misread, it's called misexpressed.

Your post was not there, when I posted my earlier one.

Cheers...Sachin

Hi Sachin

I do understand projection, having often been a victim of it. I also understood your side before I undertook to comment on this thread. Out of respect for Mr. Kher, so as not to drive him into silence here, peace is more important than any of this.

Cheers, Heather

Hmm Now out of Respect?? What happened when Mallika said that? What happened when I told that? You can come and tell me now...but don't have the guts and the fairness to tell others who did it earlier.

Nicely evaded the questions I asked in my above post. Let's got to "Where ru Shekhar" thread, if you really respect this man here. I'm sure I wud get the typical defensive answer...Sachin I don't want to go anywhere...you continue. It is abt somebody's life who is suffering in Projection, but nobody cares and you can talk of compassion but still do not like to address that.

These are the Genuine people! Yep!

Truly..Sachin

Kavita,

Thank you so much for connecting with my little angel and your kind words about her and I.

Much spirit to you.

Dear Anupam,

How inspiring to be reminded that it is possible always to return from our lowest ebb. I will think of this story in my week.

Ariane

Mr. Kher,
It's nice to read about an established actor's struggling days. I am going through that now, as a struggling director, and know i am not alone.

Thanks for this story.

Best.

Dear Mr.Kher,

nice story. Hopefully other people will think over!

Have a nice day!

Hello Anupam! I loved your story. I came across your blog because I was searching in Google for Awalokiteshwara, I have been reciting his great Great Compassion Mantra for many hours but new nothing of him. Now I know a little bit more!. I learnt about the real powers of human beings when I was 19 in the book "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda, so these stories don´t surprise me so much when they happen in India! Still it is great to read about them. Here in Argentina they are probably more rare! kind regards, Margarita

on some mornings i find myselfwalking hungry to the cupboard to devour an orange, purple, red, yellow, black, pink, green, white. until then, its all pretty restless.

Anupamji,
Namaskar Marah,
I don't think you ever read or reply to the comments posted on your articles. Nevertheless, this was a nice piece of work.