...as we should love, with no mind.

Thank you for sharing Shekharji,

Cinda

Do flowers know
they are flowers?
Do butterflies know
they are butterflies?
Flowers and butterflies are
What you have of them in mind.

They bloom for none,
They bloom for themselves.
They love others of blooming kind.
Do not look down upon
Butterflies and blossoms,
They do have their own minds.

Tanzan Senzaki

PS: Shekhar, I will soon get to karma blog for comments, and post here a poem on existentialism and butterflies by a Nobel Laureate.

tanzan
the flowers
and the blooming
the butterflies
and the blossoming
one not independent
of the other
no one mind

shekhar

shekhar,

so it has been with everything ever since big bang.

even with tz being here lol.

Flowers bloom
butterflies come
Are they really separate
No no they are same

Ravi

Lifeless
motionless
the butterfly
the flower
as if painted on the canvas of time,
when in a blink
The mind whispered
"Consciousness"
and the flower bloomed
the butterfly
fluttered
sipping on the nectar of love
eternally

Shekhar,

Butterflies love blossoms,
Blossoms love butterflies,
Though appearing dependent
They are free.
They have their own minds.

A flower may trap a butterfly,
It may use it to spread its pollen,
In return it gives to the butterfly
A bit of sweetness, colored golden.

Kind regards
Tanzan Senzaki

Shekahr,

Here is a poem by Octavio Paz, the Nobel Laureate, in Spanish that I translated into English and Hindi.

****

La Mariposa

La Mariposa
volaba entre los autos.
Marie José me dijo: ha de ser Chuang Tzu,
de paso por Nueva York.
Pero la mariposa
no sabía que era una mariposa
que soñaba ser Chuang Tzu
o Chuang Tzu
que soñaba ser una mariposa.
La mariposa no dudaba:
volaba.

~Octavio Paz

****
The Butterfly

The butterfly flew among the cars.
Marie Jose said to me: it has to be Chuang Tzu
On the way to New York.
But the butterfly
did not know it was a butterfly
that dreamed to be Chaung Tzu
or Chaung Tzu
who dreamed to be a butterfly.
But the butterfly did not doubt:
Off it flew.

(Tanzan Senzaki)

****

Ek Butterfly

Caron ke beech uddi ek butterfly.
Mari Jose nay mujhe kaha:
Yeh zarroor Chuang Tzu hogi
New York ko uddtti hooee.
Laykin butterfly ko nahin patta thaa
Kay woh ek butterfly thee
Jo chhati thee ban jana Chaung Tzu,
Yaa Chaung Tzu
Chhata thha ban jana butterfly.
Usko koee dubda na thee:
Woh ud gayee.

Kind regards
Tanzan Senzaki

shekhar and everyone!

here is a very interesting description of the experience of oneness in terms of a certain parable of butterflies...which i had read somewhere:

one day the butterflies got together tormented by their desrie to unite with the candle and know what it was like.

a first butterfly went right up the room in which a candle was placed, saw it and returned. he related what he had seen. but the wise butterfly presiding over them rejected it as leading them nowhere.

a second butterfly went closer to the candle. he touched the flame with his wings. he returned with his wing singed. he related what the candle was like but the wise butterfly again rejected it saying that it was not any the more exact.

then a third butterfly arose drunk with love. he flew on his wings and rushed into the flame. his limbs became red as fire. he became one with the flame. but he did not return.

then the wise butterfly said to the others: "he has known what he wanted to know. but since he has not returned he alone understands it and that is all.

happy oneness experience through books lol :)!!

"Lifeless
motionless"
Reminds me
of the intelligent design.

And the creation
Of deities and man
By God in Vedas.

Sometime I wonder,
Why a modern man
Is still in faith
So blind!

Tanzan Senzaki

PS: Like the origin of woman from a hanging -useless- left rib of Adam in the Bible, there is a description in Vedas of creation of deities and man by God from mud. And when God blows air into the nostrils of these toys made from mud, they spring back to life! I translated the poem into English few years ago, and will post here soon. People living in the 21st century still believe that! Well beliefs are beliefs. Any body can believe in anything. Life becomes so easy to live that way. And this is my personal belief. I do not attack your belief, by the way. Be happy!

Harb,

I see some humor in your butterfly story.

The third butterfly
Rose all drunk with love.
Off it flew to the flame
To get burnt. One to become ONE.

I wonder the third one
Was drunk on love
Or it had sipped some drops
From your bottle of Old Monk!

Regards & Respect
Tanzan Senzaki

Harb,

"he has known what he wanted to know. but since he has not returned he alone understands it and that is all"

So true..How much longer is our journey into the Nirankar??I wonder.From Brahma into it.

TZ, the second one sipped some drops of Old Monk from my botle....becaue he was like me....

kaveetaa :)

Shekhar and Tanzan: If I make a mess of the candle during my try, will you light another after the next round of caterpillars comes along---I might need some extra chances to keep my focus on the flame, and not get caught in the hot wax.

With a collective again focused on butterflies and blossoms, or North's original, the "flutterby," I can't help but think that in spite of so many hardships gaining momentum in the world, that 2006 will be a premium year for those who look for the "flowers and butterflies" in life. Thanks for the treat you all. Dave

Which came first bees and butterlfies or ... flowers?

They need each other, one cannot exist without the other, they must happen at once.

Yet they are the result of accidental mutations over a billion years?

Who teaches a butterfly to fly?

Life is empty and meaningless.

Event A occurs after Event B and we link them up in a relation or create a rule. Are the codes, rules, relations inherent in nature or are they our imagination.

Butterfly and Flower are related together by us... :-)

Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com

I wrote this piece "A worm goes in and a butterfly comes out" Dec 22 on my blog.

Click my name above it links to my blog.

Oh and Shekhar you wanted to read this one which I said I would post online. It is on my blog below the one above.

December 16, 2005
The "Crème Principal" cream (the best rises to the top)

IAMblogging.net or IAMblogging.com will get you there.

How vast is this
Hindu religion - the way of life!
Its philosophy goes on and on
ad infinitum, ad infinitum ...

Sometime I feel it's a sack
Full of potatoes and egg plants,
(no eggs, no meat, all vegetarian)
Of cow's milk, cucumbers, dal and roti,
(no cow's urine, no intention of offending)
Of oceans, mountains, gods and deities,
Of gitas, vedas, temples, stones,
Of holy Ganges, birds, monkeys, rats,
Of lions, leopards, dogs, cats,
(they all have souls, recyclable ones)
Of blossoming flowers and butterflies.

No matter what I write here,
It turns to oneness and consciousness:
To be with Brahma, to be with Him
Not to live life, but die for Him.
Even the poor butterfly
Had to sacrifice its life for Him
To be one with ONE. All is Him.

How can so many have
So distorted view of the world,
It often boggles my mind!

With respect to all Hindu brothers and sisters here. It is only my view. No offense intended. Apologies in advance.

Tanzan Senzaki

PS: Dictionary - dal and roti means lentil soup and bread. I was inspired by all the preceding posts in this thread.

Dear Shekhar; please accept this one, from another "virtual friend."

THE SLEEPING GIANT

The giant rests beneath my breast;
whispering echoes from its breath.

While looming stars cling to inner walls;
deeper-stilled, in chambered halls;

Moonbeams capture the light within,
of cascading beams of gold, descend.
As I ascend above; a large pool of doubt,
is surrounded by love.

And in my euphoric state I admit,
I thought I saw, a dimmed candle lit!

Is that my memory chamber, echoing calls to my mind? "Yes, come and visit, old friend of mine;
it's been too long, since last time."

Enfolded I'd become, as tears of sorrow and joy meld, making life quake and tweak;
and I transcended doubt as the giant leaped,
to catch a boonbeam, for my cheek.

D.D. Sonnenburg

With profound appreciation; for the inspiration.

North

Dear David; hmm, you are just too keen an eye; you noticed, huh?(wink and a smile.)

North

What A Life!

Now here comes someone
Tired with life,
Saying life is nothing
It is all emptiness.

So long he follows
The Hindu way of life:
Out of fullness comes emptiness
Out of emptiness comes fullness

Miserable he will be all life.
God gave him his life.
He does not like to live his life.
So God made a stupid mistake.
He should not have given him life.

Mistake or no mistake,
You have all freedom.
Go and kill yourself
And be with Him.

But again there are stars
That have fixed your life.
Your birth charts don't allow it!

So God wants to punish you:
You so and so miserable pig,
Your karma was bad in previous life.
Live in misery this life.

No wonder life is empty,
There is nothing in it.
But again,
It's the Hindu way of life.

All illusions, all delusions.
No peace of mind.
No beauty.
All cruelty!

What a life!

Tanzan Senzaki

PS: I am getting tired of begging apologies here. Bear with me. Or ignore me. I will not mind. But please do not come here spewing venom on me. Please, please...

With no mind,
we would still be savages;

With no mind,
we would struggle just to survive.

So it isn't about emptying or getting rid of mind.
It's about us managing mind, instead of letting mind manage us.

A Quote Posted By Krish in the Open Thread:

"People who call themselves philosophical always wonder about emptiness. But it is the empty brain that gets attracted towards philosophy and then joins the process of wondering about emptiness."

****

Krish,

Some emptiness was going on on this thread. So I hijacked the quote here. Read above a comment by a poster on emptiness and my thoughts on it, if you so desire.

Regards
Tanzan Senzaki

Well said Ravi!

I neither want to feel the tug of freedom; nor the liberation from freedom; I want to feel the in-between.

North

Dear Ravi,
Thank you for your website address. I will definitely make use of it as I read Wei Wu Wei.

Here is a Wei Wu Wei verse:

We have to split mind in order to dream,
We have to split mind in order to live and die,
Let us stop splitting mind - and stay whole!

Bob

Dear Bob,

And what do these three lines you quoted mean to you? Better still, what did you learn from them? Or still better, what will you differently in future because of them?

The flower and the butterfly....

instant karma you see
for who looks for who
with a known then they are two...

a visual landscape of beauty
always changing in the breeze I look with calmness and ease.

Mother nature
will never change this journey
of the flower and the butterfly
she will do this, as she will please

the flower and the butterfly....

~Joanie

instant karma..

isn't that the truth..
alicia,
Some people live for the fortune
Some people live just for the fame
Some people live for the power yeah
Some people live just to play the game
Some people think that the physical things..
just another day,
in paradise
or your diary..

love,

Tittali udee uda jo chalee.

(Butterfly flew,kept flying)

phool ne kaha aaja mere paas.

(Flower said come to me)

Tittali boli mai chali aakaash.

(butterfly said I will fly to the sky)

Words from an old hindi film song.

Tanzan, please improve it.

One word Shekhar!

INTENTION!

Dear Shekhar,
I can lure you with just as much a look, a smile or a touch, the delight of a kiss, or sweet words whispered - just for you.
Better yet, I can stand before you
Look!

Try and catch me if you can, like the butterfly or flower, I have my own place and time.

Are you looking at me just now?
Here I Am

Come into
The Flame

more by Ryokan:
Though frosts come down
night after night,
what does it matter?
they melt in the morning sun.
Though the snow falls
each passing year,
what does it matter?
with spring days it thaws.
Yet once let them settle
on a man's head,
fall and pile up,
go on piling up—
then the new year
may come and go,
but never you'll see them fade away

cheers
-rakesh mawa

As a flower blown out by the wind
goes to rest and cannot be defined
so the wise man freed from individuality
goes to rest and cannot be defined.
gone beyond all images-
gone beyond the power of words.

From: Sutra Nipata

I wonder if anyone recognises this?

"Tsonkwadiyonrat"

Meaning: We are one Spirit

Language? I forget. But, it is similar to First Nations or Cree, possibly my own language, Ojibway(level of Cree); which of course, I cannot speak, much to my disappointment.

I must have liked it though because I found it on a scrap of paper while, with great and seemingly futile effort, have been going through too many box's of "things" for weeks now, still looking for the "actual things" I am looking for and need and want to find! I know I have complained about this last month! lol whahhhhH again.

I can be relentless, but even the great lions of the jungle, knows when to stop chasing their own tail.

I say this, b/c we were robbed by movers in 2004; and I am quite afraid to relinquish thoughts that my pictorial-diary of my childhood to then, may be missing.

Being typical of a worrier; all my warrior facets seem to fade into the background while hopes dash.

A candle is burning, and as the sun peeks through the dusty rose curtains, an empty corner by the window which will become my meditation space, is cast a glowing beam of light.

I hear the universe calling; perhaps to take my memory to where it is I seek, is found?

North

Aloha Ravi,
In response to your post from yesterday, what do those three lines mean to you? I would be more interested in that than what I think.

But here are several haiku that I have written about mind:

When you "lose" your mind
you lose your ignorance and
gain liberation

Go beyond the mind
Beyond all thoughts to silence
and to what is real

It's a fallacy
that thinking brings you wisdom
instead you block it

When you do not think
your quiet mind will reflect
the oneness of all

Bob

Dear Bob, you ask me what these three Terence Gray lines mean:

"We have to split mind in order to dream,
We have to split mind in order to live and die,
Let us stop splitting mind - and stay whole!"

Terence is mistaken in these lines, largely because Chan is mistaken here. Here's why.

We DON'T split mind. Mind is split through conditioning during childhood. The individual whose mind is split doesn't do the splitting of it.

Hence, as we don't do the splitting of mind, we cannot stop splitting mind. We cannot stop doing what we don't do in the first place. And as we don't do the splitting of mind, we cannot stop doing the splitting of mind either. Not directly anyway.

But we can do it indirectly. What we can do is become aware that the mind is split. When we become aware that the mind is split, there is the opportunity to get distance from mind, and in getting distance from mind, mind becomes better observable.

And when the mind gets more easily observable, its programmed defects become more apparent, and get edited out by consciousness. Thus gradually, as the programmed assumptions that bring about the splitting of mind get edited out, split mind ceases to be.

A cleansed mind need not be a split mind.

Dear Bob,

This is in response to your haiku.

The point is not to get to the state of Oneness of all,

But to think, speak and act from the identiity of the Oneness of all.

You don't need to get rid of mind or thoughts in order to get to the state of Oneness of all. You will definitely need them in order to help others get to that state.

In short, 'enlightenment' is not the end of seeking, but the beginning of the true life as the Oneness. Don't devalue or jettison, in getting to the Oneness of all, what you will need after you have got there.

Ravi: Exceptionally well put--a masterpiece in it's simplicity regarding the actualizing of an awareness that already lives in us, above and beyond (or rather, "behind") the appearance of what we all take with such certainty to be concrete reality--the split itself!!!

The simplicity of your accounting is why our complicated and intellectually divisive and "judgemental" minds cannot "see" the unity that already exists; because we focus our attention on the e-veil itself(energy-veil), or the veil of forgetfulness that causes "the split" to appear as concretely real and true. Thanks Ravi--Dave

Ravi,
Thank you. Well put. Probably Terence Gray didn't really mean that we split our mind but that it happens like you pointed out.
It is interesting that Terence writes about "split mind" and "whole mind" and Ramesh Balsekar talks about "thinking mind" and "working mind". From what they say about it it seems like they are conveying the same idea.
Here is another passage from "Posthumous Pieces":
"What,then, is this great and obscure mystery that we are nor are not conceptually? No mystery at all! It is what divided mind cannot know because it is divided into subject and object. So divided it can reason, but it cannot apperceive its indivision, its own wholeness, which is all that it is and all that we can be." -- p.233

Any "thoughts" on this? Apperceive is a word that I don't fully understand.

Dave, Thank you for your insight as well.

Namaste, Bob

Bob: Have much enojeyed your delightful, steady, sound, and "undefensive" posts all along the Intentblog way.

There is also and underlying "subtle" and dry humor in the way you time your answers, and with the concise manner regarding the choice of words you use--you are one who had shed the limits of the shortcomings of a scientific background; while retaining all that was benficial to you and others, from this background--and suddessfully synthesize and apply that learning towards your real life's purpose; ie. becoming and East-West "mystic!!!!"

Your last post caused to consider "analogizing" apperceive with the relationship that "amoral, immoral, and moral" may have, one to the other; ie., the "split mind", however precise in it's linear qualitiies of maintaining polarities, is not capable of conceiving that there is "something" higher and more true than it's own ways of explaining perception--in other words, it cannot "conceive of," let alone percieve, a "unified field" of whole-minded consciousness.

Just an intuitive sense about what might be the intention of "apperceive." Thanks for all your great posts and poetry Bob. Your friend, Dave

Bob, you now ask:

"What, then, is this great and obscure mystery that we are nor are not conceptually? No mystery at all! It is what divided mind cannot know because it is divided into subject and object. So divided it can reason, but it cannot apperceive its in division, its own wholeness, which is all that it is and all that we can be." -- p.233

By the way (first) edition of Posthumous Pieces doesn't have a page 233. In fact, the very last page of the index of the book is page 232.

First, Dave's response is a very accurate explanation of what Terence meant with this quotation.

However, I again disagree with Terence, and likewise, also with Chan, and Balsekar et al., the entire tradition of Eastern mystical thought - about its essence: i.e., all mind is by definition divided mind, whether it is called split mind, thinking mind or working mind, etc., and we must get rid of mind in order to discover that we are the Oneness of all.

I realize that the great Chan tradition arose several hundreds of years ago, when little or nothing was known about the consciousness, mind, body and matter relationship. They just didn't have the conceptual tools that are widely available today. So they, and their successors, Terence, Nisargadatta, Balsekar, couldn’t distinguish between reliable contents of mind, and UNreliable contents of mind. They all felt they had to get rid of all contents of mind, i.e., throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Today we know that mind is entirely conceptual in nature. Today we have experienced hardware and software, and learned that invisible software can be used to run hardware biorobots. Today we know that mind is not unlike human software. It is invisible to others, but perceivable to oneself. It is populated with myriad abstractions, typically either copies of sensory experiences (eg tree, table or cow), or images formed around words that refer to experiences one has not yet had (example soul, spirit etc.).

Today we also know that every conceptual object has a boundary, a boundary that demarcates the percept (distinguishable experience) that the conceptual object represents, from everything else other than the specific experienced percept. In other words, when you see a cow, a copy of that experience of the cow is formed as a conceptual object, and this conceptual object gets stored in the brain. So, conceptual objects are all, every last one of them, by their very nature of being a representations of finite (boundaried) experiences, granular, like sand or marbles. And the world we experience that we interpret with this granular medium – is seamlessly and indivisibly one, except for its undulations into the appearance of temporary forms like stars, planets, humans, and trees.

So here we are, each a unique observational standpoint of the indivisible Oneness of all, compelled to interpret the oceanic unity of our Oneness through discrete experiences that arise through the sensory mechanisms of the temporary human creatures through which we perceive the rest of our Oneness with a conceptual medium that is entirely granular and incapable of ultimately precise representation. However, this very granular conceptual medium also lets us manipulate these concepts into new ideas and inferences. How can the Oneness ever grasp its own seamlessly fluid oneness through a medium that is unavoidably granular?

Does this mean we must abandon or discontinue our use of these granular conceptual objects, all of which together comprise mind? How stupid can we be? Do we want the human species that serves as our instruments within our Oneness to become once again obsessed with how to keep fed and warm – all just to survive?

No, today we live in the age of rational enquiry, when it is entirely possible to observe mind, correct mind, refine mind, integrate mind, all to better understand how our Oneness manifests both as perceiver and as perceived forms. Today it is possible to both keep mind, divided and split as it is, and discover, and work toward retrieving our innate Oneness, and live together in harmony, creativity, productivity and prosperity, which affords us ever larger periods of time to perceive, grasp, and grow in understanding and communal wisdom.

All we need is a concept to represent the idea of the Whole, the Oneness of All, or the Whole. Once we have that, then all the other concepts can be ordered within this concept for the Whole, to represent the many manifestations of the Whole as experiences, to be ever more consistent in their relationships to one another, as indeed are the relationships among our actual experiences of them.

Try this dialogue with yourself: As the Whole is One (Oneness of All), are you a part of the Whole? Of course. Can you experience anything? Of course, you can. Is what you can experience part of the Whole? Of course it is. So by the very fact that you are part of the Whole and can experience other parts of the whole, means that the Whole is a self-perceiving Being. This means that the Whole is a self-perceiving Being that perceives Itself, through temporary human forms in the perceiveable part of the Whole, and can store and process conceptual copies of these experiences, and can form ever more clear and accurate models of how Oneself, the Whole functions!

You see what I mean? Why ever throw the baby out with the bathwater, when we: a) don’t need to do so in order to realize that we are all the Whole as One, and b) need to keep working with concepts to continue to experience, and learn and grow and share and flourish, until all the human manifestations of the Whole are likewise aware of who we really are, and we can evolve human capabilities endlessly into the unknown possibilities that are already latent in who we are.

Dear Ravi,
Thank you for your indepth reply. Some of which I totally agree with. Such as "Today we know that mind is entirely conceptual in nature."
and:
"How can the Oneness ever grasp its own seamlessly fluid oneness through a medium that is unavoidably granular?"

But then, to me, you seem to backtrack when you say, "Today it is possible to both keep mind, divided and split as it is, and discover, and work toward retrieving our innate Oneness."

Discover?

And as for me, I'm not to keen about the use of the word Oneness. Doesn't that in some sense imply duality, i.e. one vs. two? Personally I'm more comfortable with Tao or what is, is.

Will close with a "haiku":

You're not an object
because there are no objects.
All is consciousness

Bob, let's begin with your haiku:

"You're not an object
because there are no objects.
All is consciousness"

Because all is consciousness, and you are within all, and I am within all, we are both within all, and this conversation is occuring within consciousnes, between two facets within it.

When both of us know that we are both within consciousness, then we also know that you are one vantage point of consciousnes, and I am another vantage point of the selfsame consciousness.

Also because all is consciousness, consciousness is also the only self there is, and also the only substance there is. Self is the facet of consciousness that is aware, and the world is the facet of consciousness that the self is aware of.

You are I, being both being conscious, are accordingly two of over six billion vantage points of the self facet of consciousness. And the world we both look into is the world facet of consciousness, or our common larger body.

The self you are, and the self I am, are both cases of consciousness viewing oneself from two different vantage points within oneself. We both use the same conceptual infrastructure to interpret what we experience. This infrastructure, being granular, and also because the sense mechanisms available to us project our common larger body, the one world to be split or divided into myriad pieces.

But as long as we also know, with the selfsame concepts, that concepte themselves are granular, and project division where there may be none, we can compensate for this appearance, and not have to worry about the splitting and dividing of the world actually defining ourselves and the world.

Dear Shekhar, for a profound reason, you popped into my thoughts just now! Something told me to send you this poem, which was transcribed for me by an old friend Alberto many years ago. He knew, Desiderata was a prime favorite of mine...and the darling gentleman, translated it into Spanish for me. It seems, it was to be shared with you...

Desiderata
Author: Max Ehrmann-1927
Traducida al español por: Alberto Salinas.

Ve con placidez en medio del ruido y los apuros, y recuerda
la paz que puede albergarse en el silencio.

Tanto como posible, sin rendirte, vive en buenos términos con
los que te rodean. Expresa tu verdad, quietamente y con
claridad; y escucha a los demás, incluso a los insulsos e
ignorantes; ellos también tienen su historia.

Evita a las personas gritonas y agresivas, ellas son vejatorias
para el espíritu. Si te comparas con otros, puedes devenir
vano y agrio, porque siempre habrá personas mejores y
peores que tu. Goza tus logros, tanto como tus planes.

Agudamente interesado en tu propia carrera, sé sin embargo
humilde; esta es una posesión real en las fortunas
cambiantes de esta época. Ejercita precaución en tus
negocios, porque el mundo está lleno de trampas. Pero no
dejes que esto te impida ver las virtudes que allí residen;
muchos se esfuerzan por grandes ideales; y en todas partes
la vida está llena de heroísmos.

Sé tu mismo. Especialmente, no finjas afectación. Tampoco
seas cínico en el amor; porque la cara de todas las arideces,
es tan perenne como el césped.

Toma gentilmente el consejo de los años, graciosamente
entregando las cosas pasajeras de la juventud. Nutre la
fortaleza del espíritu como escudo contra repentinas
desgracias. Pero no te estreses con las imágenes. Muchos
temores nacen de la fatiga y la soledad. Más allá de una
disciplina totalizante, sé gentil contigo mismo.

Eres un niño del universo, no menos que los árboles y las
estrellas; tienes el derecho a estar aquí. Y, te sea o no claro,
el universo se está desenvolviendo tal como debiera.

Por lo tanto, mantén la paz con Dios, no importa como lo
concibas a Él; no importa cuáles sean tus trabajos y
aspiraciones, en la ruidosa confusión de la vida, mantiene la
paz en tu alma.

Con todas sus pretensiones, trabajos y sueños rotos, éste es
aun un bello mundo. Sé positivo y jovial. Esfuérzate por ser
feliz.

Max Ehrmann
1927

With my admiration Shekhar; knowing you are working tirelessly on The Golden Age, I anticipate no disappointing from you(smiles.)

North

Dear Shekhar, Here is the English version for you and your readers to absorb its peace & tranquility's place:

Desiderata

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs;
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love;
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe,
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.

Max Ehrmann, Desiderata 1927

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Mr.Kapur, plz stop blogging & make another funpacked film like Mr.India!! It'll blow away all these self-conscious so serious movies these days.. we want u to make a frank & fun film again!! Get off the blog.

that is life...

;o) What a beautiful conversation! Ariane