Mallika Chopra - March 29, 2006
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Posted by Mallika Chopra at March 29, 2006 02:08 PM
Who has read "A Course in Miracles"?
I found my old copy from years ago and started reading through it again. (Inspired by Mallika's quote from the book posted here a week or so ago.)
Here is a quote that inspired me way back when: "Spirit am I, a holy Son of God, Free of all limits, safe and healed and whole, Free to forgive, and free to save the world."
I remember now that I used to have that on my frig.
And I remember another quote that I used to repeat in my mind while working out at the gym not so long after my son was born, "I am not a body. I am free. For I am as God created me."
I used to hear those words in my mind and feel as if I was flying.
Kind of interesting. Like meditating, only I didn't know about meditation back then.
I've been observing a lot lately how I can shift my perception and my entire experience shifts. In one moment there is a good and a bad - or at least a right and a wrong - and I play one of those roles. And then, in one instance I can create the shift and there is only the desire to connect and to express love.
I don't know. As I reflect on some of these things I know God has always been with me and I have had what I needed as I needed it all along.
Love, Kristin
As I believe, life is full of unexpected moments which can lead to something good or bad or neutral (does not affect your life).
Human being never know how and when the fate gonna change 'unexpectedly'. Four years of dedication I had, Experienced many sleepless nights, too many worrying moments about future.. only for a favorable decision from respected and elderly people. But that was not 'only', it would have made one side completely happy and one side completely sad.
Sacrifice - Huh! I don't understand what this word means, but I decided upon it. It might have been giving up or sacrifice or mixture of giving up feelings and sacrifice, I still could not figure out.
But that moment changed my life, the moment I was ready to leave everything, my fate changed and it brought back what I wanted. I still remember my situation; very confused and happy. You can also imagine, when someone was giving up and he unexpectedly got what he wanted since ages; what he could think. That moment changed my life.
I like what Life is Colorful wrote here.
I was just reading last night about living in the "free flow of life".
Life is unpredictable.
It happens no matter how much worry you put into it.
Can someone provide infos. on Dual Citizenship (for Canadian Citizens)? Whatz the deal///applying for it, whatz best...etc, etc????
Thanks :)
I think my intention was missed somewhere. I'm looking for stories of serendipity and coincidence that affected us/you deeply. I think we forget to see serendipity for what it is when it happens. (Why this person, at this moment, in this place? If either one of us had been delayed 30 seconds by a red light or anything else....we wouldn't have met here and now) I think if we remember to be cognizent of these things and leave aside preconceived expectations for who we are and what we think our life is supposed to look like, we find ourselves learning lessons and following paths that would have missed us otherwise. I'm sorry that didn't seem clear...I'm not sure how well I managed to clarify it....just email me if you want to participate but still have questions.
Am I here yet? me2
I am the VOICE OF the VOICELESS
...you can not do kindness to soon!
http://brightlion.com/InHope.asp
Jules,
I may have a story you will enjoy. Short version here. Let me2 know if you like.
I read(eat) a lot of books. I had read quite a few of Hermann Hesse's novels, short stories, essays, etc. and after work one day I went to the library to pick up one of his last and best novels. It was on the shelf so I got it, checked it out and went to my car.
I listen to N.P.R. a lot and it was take your request Friday on the Classics(Synphonic,etc) as usual. I don't know a lot about orchestra but I love music and maybe I had gotten to the age where I could enjoy that type of complex sound. I can not remember ever hearing the same song twice, most of my listening to them is for the news.
I started the car and the station was playing a bit of an odd tune, sort of like Yo Yo Ma(I guess).It ended and the d.j. said it was a request from Patti in Crete, Ne.(out of town),I don't have any idea who that women was. He then gave the title to the song,it was "(For)A Glass Bead Game".The name of the book I had just checked out was "The Glass Bead Game"!!!by Hermann Hesse. I just about shit my pants to say the least! Three people were involved in this scheme, if not four(counting Hermann,And I was damn sure he had something to do with this).
Who read who's mind here and who perfected the timing,which was indeed,impeccable!?
This is but one of a few awesome experiences I have had since I turned 40. This one I also have put together in a long rhyming poem,let me know if this is the sort of jingle your looking for.
me2
A friend of mine, whom I have known for nearly 20 years but have not been in touch lately, committed suicide a couple of weeks back. I came to know about it through a mutual friend just today, and I am still in shock. What could possibly drive a smart, ambitious guy to take the extreme step?
He was a very smart guy; so much so that the company that hired him after he had had some 8 years of IT experience immediately promoted him to a mid level manager position. He and I started our careers at the same company and I have known him to be a fun loving, kind hearted and intelligent man. He fell in love with a girl at work and got married some 10 years ago. Apparently the reason for his suicide was marital discord.
In my opinion he had everything: a successful career, family and kid(s), not sure if he had more than one kid, great income. Yet, something went horribly wrong for him and he took the extreme step. How I wish I had kept closer contact with him; how I wish he had cried over my shoulder and I had given him some solace. But, in practice, that rarely happens. Men don't like to talk about their marital problems to other men; perhaps I am generalizing too much, but most of my men friends don't talk about it. Whereas women routinely talk about family details with their friends. Does that give them a better outlet. In fact, at least in my case, I rarely talk to people outside work.
For Indians divorce is still a taboo subject. There are many tools available to handle marital discord if only we look around. There are councelors, there is family and in the worst case there is a divorce as well. But he chose none of these options. Is it because we all develop a certain level of expectations from people we know, and when they are unable to meet them for whatever reason, they feel overwhelmed? What is it with ego that leads people to go to such extremes. I am not trying to say that I have overcome ego either.
Sorry for rambling on, I am very disturbed today.
Regards,
Ravi Kulkarni
Dear Ravi, so very sorry for this loss of a friend. Sometimes, the reason is never ours to know...just know always; that the time you two spent together are precious...remember those instead of "why" and maybe it will bring you comfort and peace...
My prayers, for your grief; is with you.
North
http://spiritsinmotion.blogspot.com/
I understand your sentiment about your friend. Last summer, a friend of mine from Bhutan called me at 4 in the morning (she didn't realise that I was in the UK at the time when she called, she thought that I was in Delhi). Anyway, I told her that I would call her the next day when I woke up in the morning. I tried to call her, sms her-but no response. I then came back to India a week later. A mutual friend sent me an e-mail saying that our friend had died. She was 23. I was shocked. When I called the mutual friend-she told me that our friend had a heart attack in her sleep. I thought to myself, how can a 23 year old have a heart attack while sleeping?. As it turned out-she had taken an overdose of anti-depressants, and was apparently extremely depressed. I felt so upset and guilty that I hadn't even realised how depressed she was. She came to my hotel room one night in Thimphu-but she was her usual jovial self etc etc. The story unfolded that she had been married and had a child. She was living with her new boyfriend, however, his parents and him were pressurising her into marriage-but she didn't want to marry him-she was in love with someone else. Therefore she decided to end her life-as she couldn't see a way out-she becamse too desperate and decided that the only way out was to kill herself.
I felt so sad. She was young, with her whole life ahead of her-and yet she was so desperately unhappy that she ended her life.
You know, I think we have all been in situations where we cannot see a way out, or can't see a light at the end of the tunnel. God knows that I have, but to take your own life..I don't know..some say its a cop out, others say its selfish-what about the people you leave behind?.
Life is turbulent sometimes, and you feel that you just can't ride the waves-but somehow, most are able to find that inner strength to get through those rough times. People who are going to commit suicide are going to do it. Most people don't share the problems (men and women), or are able to disclose how they are feeling at that moment in time. It takes alot of skill to pick up on someone's emotional state. I couldn't understand why I hadn't picked up on my friend's state of mind. I usually take pride in my intuition and perception-but this time-it didn't happen at all. I had no reason to think she was unhappy from her interaction with me.
Is divorce really taboo in India still? I have aunts, uncles, cousins who are all divorced. Many more younger people are getting out of marriages which they find stifling etc. I don't know, I think you have one life-so if a situtaion is making you unhappy, its better to get out of it.
As they say, you never know what's happening in someone's life or what's going on behind closed doors. The facade is that you look at people and think they have everything and they do-they just don't see it that way. They think they have nothing.
Ravi: Please calm down. Don't blame yourself for not being there for this friend. It was so ordained that you were destined to drift apart at the "right" time. Imagine if you were close and he had confessed and despite your consolations he had ended giving up his life. Isn't that a possibility? You would have been all the more miserable then. Remember that one should not over-estimate one's capacity to change others- that's a bitter fact of life. As for this friend, I feel terribly sorry for him. What a waste of life! I may sound spiritual but do you think he is done away with his share of pain? I believe in after-life and that it's the soul that suffers through the body. So, he may have ended the medium of endurance (body) but the central sufferer (the soul) will have to even out!
Any takes, guys?
Hey Kamini! Yes, divorce is still a taboo in India, albeit for the middle class- that is most vulnerable to gossip, prejudice and judgements in general! The high class is a "shh-shh" class where nobody talks on the face and everybody talks behind, so the opinions are not voiced easily and openly.And nobody's bothered about the low class- one that is most conveniently overlooked and forgotten too!
I think divorce is not a solution always. If couples in turbulent waters focus on what it was that initially attracted them to each other and make a conscious attempt to eliminate or at least sideline the differences, in 9 cases out of 10 things should straighten up. What say?
Well, This is an interesting topic. I have lost two friends commit suicide. I believe that they needed to let go and move on. One friend called me just before he took his life and I too had the same thoughts and wondering if I could have done something (if I had been aware of the situation). The answer is NO. This is how they wanted their life to play out. So, you must let go as they have already. Provide love and support for those left behind and take from this experience awareness. Then move on in peace.
Peace to you and blessings!
Love,
Suzanne
Maddz.. like you I too would request some visa related stuff... I am an Indian national and would like to apply for H1B. Would anyone be kind enough to talk about this? I am looking out for the procedure, etc. Can a Bank like say Wells Fargo or Bank of America sponsor me? Please please please write about this!
Prerna
Hey Kristin: I know "Patty" has studied "The Course" based on her references to same; and I've spent 10+ years with it, although I did "A Course in Miracles" on audio-book 22 times through, while delivering some 28,000+- pizzas!
I taught it on Tuesday nights for four years, and ironically, only recent read the actual three-part book by "The Foundation for Inner Peace" just in the last three years.
The two versions are, of course, identical in their wording, and there is a fourth piece that is often overlooked, about the "psychotherapy of prayer," with it's various forms, as well as some wonderful 'right brain creative' formats called the song of prayer--I'm messing it up here, but it's called the "little Green Book" that Marianne Williamson also draws from.
The second workbook exercise you quoted, "I am not a body, I am free, for I am as God created me!," is one of my very favorites.
Each of the 365 workbook lessons, if completely internalized, particular with the other 364 lessons as the surrounding context of the individual exercises, is enough, in itself, to trigger what the workbook exercises are designed to do over time, and with practice--which is to re-train the mind from a state of "wrong-mindedness," to a state of right-mindedness (like the Buddhist traditions), thereby setting the stage for transfomation back to whole-mindedness--the infamous awakening known as "Enlightenment."
Loved seeing your post Kristin--say "hey" to Scott for me also! Dave
Hey Mallika,
where is Gotham these days? What is he upto? No blogs no nothings!! Busy once again with Virgin comics, is it? How's his knee by the way? And what about your Sears-sucks-dishwasher?
Dear Kamini, North and Not-spiritual,
Thank you for your responses. And Kamini, I am sorry to hear about what happened to your friend. I know everybody is responsible for their own actions, but in some corner of one's mind, one does feel responsible in such situations. Death has such a finality, there is no recourse or appeal.
Many of us have come across situations like this before. My intention was certainly not to suggest that *I* could have somehow changed his mind. I know it is very hard to put yourself in someone else's shoes. I just feel for his kids who will never see their father again. It is a loss that can't be overcome and at least for their sake he should have reconsidered. Most people are ready to make the supreme sacrifice for their children, can't they make a sacrifice and live?
I am not here to judge my friend, may his soul rest in peace.
Regards,
Ravi Kulkarni
Aloha Ravi!
Great to hear this. His kids,yeah, poor things and his wife? Wonder what she must be going through? Sometimes one has to pay a heavy price to realize some things!
Hi Ravi,
Thanks. I was sorry to hear about your friend too. I always feel sad to hear about someone taking their own life-even if i don't know them from Adam.
I absolutely agree, the sadness is in the people they leave behind. I think when someone close to you does this-it tends to put things about your own life into perspective-it makes you think about it-sometimes reasses it-and your level of contentment.
You know, I still have trouble coming to terms with death-you hit the nail on the head-the finality of it-without recourse or repeal. After experiencing death so much personally in recent years,of family members, friends etc-I still can't get my head round it-know what I mean? One day you're here, the next you're gone. That's why its so important to live in the moment.
God, I hope I'm not depressing you-I'm starting to depress myself-lol!!
As they say, the only certainity in life are Death and taxes! :-)
Ravi, North, Not-spiritual & Kamini,
its getting slightly depressing now. Lets swerve a bit. How about answering my visa question for a change ;-)
Prerna
Dear Prerna,
Yes, these banks could sponser your visa. I am not sure if H1B visas are still available this year. If the quota has been reached, then you may have to wait until September or so. L1 is another option, which is better in many respects, but you have to already work for an American company in India for that.
Regards,
Ravi Kulkarni
I dont usually forward mails but recently i got one from a friend and instead of forwarding it a few people, i thought i will post it here where more people would see it .Here it is:
I'm sure many of you watched the recent taping of the
Oprah Winfrey show in Chicago where her guest was
Tommy Hilfiger. On the show, she asked him if the
statements about race he was accused of saying were
true.
Statements like"..."If I'd known African-Americans,
Hispanics, Jewish and Asians would buy my clothes, I
WOULD NOT have made them so nice. I wish these people
would *NOT* buy my clothes, as they are made for upper
class white people."
His answer to Oprah was a simple "YES".
Where after she immediately asked him to leave her
show.
A suggestion? Don't buy your next shirt or perfume
from Tommy Hilfiger.
Let him get what he asked for.
Let's not buy his clothes, let's put him in a
financial state where he himself will not be able to
afford the ridiculous prices he puts on his clothes.
BOYCOTT. PLEASE SEND THIS MESSAGE TO ANYONE YOU KNOW.
If we are small, then send it to the whole
community
and see the result.
We have to see the result of unity. Stop buying all
range of Hillfiger products, perfume, cosmetics,
clothes, bags etc.
A scene also took place on a BA flight between
Johannesburg and London.
A white woman, about 50 years old, was seated next
to a black man. Obviously disturbed by this, she
called the air Hostess.
"Madam, What is the matter," the hostess asked.
"You obviously do not see it then?" she responded.
"You placed me next to a black man. I do not agree to
sit next to someone from such a repugnant group. Give
me an alternative seat."
"Be calm please," the hostess replied. "Almost all
the places on this flight are taken. I will go to see
if another place is available."
The Hostess went away and then came back a few
minutes later. "Madam, just as I thought, there are no
other available seats in the econo my class. I spoke to
the captain and he informed me
that there is one seat
in the business class. All the same, we also have one
seat in the First class.
Before the woman could say anything, the hostess
continued: "It is unusual for our company to permit
someone from the economy class to sit in the first
class. However, given the circumstances, the captain
feels that it would be scandalous to make someone sit
next to someone so disgusting"
She then turned to the black guy, and said,
"Therefore, Sir, if you would like to, please collect
your hand luggage, a seat awaits you in first
class."
At that moment, the other passengers who were
shocked by what they had just witnessed stood up and
applauded. This is a true story
Hi Swear aam not spiritual (what cool name)-is it true?
Perhaps you are right about divorce. My aunt who got divorced about 15 years ago-still uses her married name-and on forms still stipulates her married status. I agree with you, we live in a disposable society these days-when its broke instead of fixing it-people throw it away-alot of people prefer not to confront a difficult situation in a relationship and get out of it much more easily. I personally think its because people don't uderstand what marriage means anymore-we all have our different takes on defining a relationship and what sort of relationship we want. Interestingly, I was reading some Goss about Sanjay Dutt and Rhea Pillai. Sanjay Dutt was saying that women in India today have become more emotionally and finanicially independent, and men no longer know how to handle this new found liberation that women have found and are using to empower themselves. Have you been reading the Feminism post by Kanika Sethi? I have quite a few friends here in Delhi who recently got divorced and some are contemplating it. Its very difficult and traumatic to come to this conclusion, but at the end of the day-why stay together when it makes both of you miserable-isn't it better to move on and try and find happiness with someone else?
Re:- the visa, Prema. You may have done already-but if not-you should contact the American Embassy in Delhi (consulate) for information regarding the process.
Vinita: What a great story about the airline experience--particularly that the rest of passengers applauded--it shows just how much this white woman's prejudice and bigotry are increasingly just a memory of such pathetic views of others.
I am amazed that Tommy Hilfiger's reputed racism would still lead him onto Oprah's show then--although if he does hold these sentiments as his own--good for Oprah, toss the bigot right out the door, publically--with such a huge feminine audience who may purchase his products--and send him back to the "dark ages" from whence he came.
Maybe there will be an occurence that brings him face-to-face with a class-action lawsuit; and the judge will be a female African-American who belongs to a "sorority or fraternity" of "minority" judges that will ensure that a proper "jury of his peers" is appropriately selected (no jury tampering in this case)!!! Dave
Aloha Ravi
I have had friends take their life, one was my A Course in Miracles teacher. I love how Caroline Myss shares about Sacred Contracts. They say that people make their transition to have the deepest impact on those around them. I am sure they are in such a downward spiral that they feel the only control they have is taking their life only we don't own a life, life flows through us. I heard a wonderful analogy that we are like a ball that is pushed down in water and when that pressure is released we bounce back to the surface. Know he has bounced back up and is with you for he is I am that I am. Through his releasing his strength we have risen. There is no death. I love how Deepak shares a star collapsing upon itself where there is no velocity. We don't have to hold on:)
And Aloha Kristen I love the course. I too have my favorite lessons: When I give up attack thoughts I give up being attacked, I am never angry at what I think I am, and my safety lies in my defenselessness. Special relationships become holy encounters and when asking the Holy Spirit for another view they become Holy Relationships. It always takes two to go to Heaven.
Say when my course teacher committed suicide that was a special relationship that became a holy encounter. So today for it to become a Holy Relationship I have to ask her for another view. Before she transcended she had called me to tell me she needed a mirror. Well now I work with Clients who are getting ready to make their transition. The cycle of special relationships, holy encounters to Holy Relationships happen over and over with the understanding people need to push those close to them away so they can make their transition. It is alone process with the awareness it takes two to go to Heaven: you and God. Mirrors back to back are(special relationships-holy encounters) (you and God) create infinity-a Holy Relationship. I hope this makes sense. If not ask for another view:) that is the power of the course an explanation always follows a Holy Relationship through a holy encounter. Love patty
Oh Kristen, people all around the world start the workbook at the beginning of the year. And of course that beginning is up to you because it is perception then projection. So you can never make a mistake for mistakes are misdirected miracles within a Holy Instant. love patty
...I once sat next to an elderly German couple on a flight to London from LA - they seemed very nice and we got chatting - then the conversation turned to favourite dogs - they liked Rottweilers, then the gentleman said he was a member of the National Socialist party, loved India and that we were brothers under the skin...scary...
Still, in such situations, you can only be polite...the lady was knitting baby clothes, incidentally...
Hello Vinta,
I tried to verify the Tommy Hilfiger story and apparently it is not true, IT IS A LIE. This story has been circulating the internet for quite some time. You must google(tommy hilifger and oprah) and you will see some articles stating it's apparent falsehood.
We are capable of doing great harm to people's reputations by passing along unconfirmed information, let us not be parroting thoughtless information to one another.peace ruth
Loved the flight story!! Amazing stewardess!!
North
Dear Ruth, I saw that episode on Oprah!! She did make him leave...during the commercial.
North
Strength is the capacity to break a chocolate bar into four pieces with your bare hands--and then just eat one of the pieces.
by Unknown
~A
Hello North,
I tried to find a reference to that episode on Oprah.com and also on google and could not verify. Does anyone know the specific episode or is there a specific article in print that verifies that this did occur. We should not boycott someone due to false information.thanks ruth
Hello again,
Sorry to harp on this, but on Oprah.com she still has Tommy Hilfigers products advertised and if she asked him to leave her show becuase of racist remarks I do not think she would sell his products from her web site. Confused?ruth
I would like to know the truth behind the Tommy-Oprah story. Because, when I first landed in the US, I heard this story, and to date I have not bought a single Tommy Hilfiger item. Then I read somewhere else (thanks to google) that these rumors were not true. If there was video that Oprah or someone could reproduce here, that would lay the matter to rest.
North, I have not seen you around for a while. Are you alright? I read the article on you in Kavita's homepage. You have gone through a lot of hurdles, that takes a lot of courage and determination. Kudos to that.
Aloha
From Urban Legands: http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/hilfiger.asp
A 1997 newspaper article debunking this tale noted:
In one cybermyth, Hilfiger supposedly told style reporter Elsa Klensch of CNN that he didn't think Asians looked good in his clothes. Then, as the story morphed, he told Winfrey the same thing about Blacks, at which point she threw him off the set.
Yet representatives of both shows deny Hilfiger ever appeared as a guest.
A 1999 article also carried denials from officials of the shows on which the incident is rumored to have taken place:
"Tommy Hilfiger has never appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show," said Audrey Pass, a spokeswoman for Winfrey. "Hilfiger's never appeared on CNN Style with Elsa Klensch," said Kathy Park of CNN.
Oprah herself did what she could to quell this slander. On Monday, 11 January 1999, she opened her show by adamantly denouncing the rumor, emphatically stating the following:
So I want to just set the record straight once and for all. The rumor claims that clothing designer Tommy Hilfiger came on this show and made racist remarks, and that I then kicked him out. I just want to say that is not true because it just never happened. Tommy Hilfiger has never appeared on this show. READ MY LIPS, TOMMY HILFIGER HAS NEVER APPEARED ON THIS SHOW. And all of [the] people who claim that they saw it, they heard it — it never happened. I've never even met Tommy Hilfiger.
Both Hilfiger and his company have steadfastly denied all forms of the rumor, and it has taken many. Depending on who you hear the whisper from, he slammed Asians, Filipinos or Blacks, on Oprah or Ricki Lake or BET News or Larry King Live or CNN — as a rumor, it's a marvel of non-specificity. According to a company statement posted to the Internet in March 1997:
Tommy Hilfiger did not make the alleged inappropriate racial comments. [. . .] Hilfiger wants his clothing to be enjoyed by people of all backgrounds and his collections are put together with the broadest cross-section of individuals in mind. To reinforce this, he features models of all ethnic backgrounds in his fashion shows and advertisements.
The company has answered the charges leveled against Hilfiger in its corporate FAQ, which very clearly states that not only didn't he say what's been ascribed to him, he's also never been on The Oprah Winfrey Show, Larry King Live, or CNN's Style with Elsa Klensch.
love patty
Ravi,
My uncle committed suicide last year on 5 may ,2005...It was the most tragic experience of my life and still is.My uncle was one of the most jovial fun loving and kind person.When he was in Hindu college he saw a road accident happening and went to the court.He didn't care about the threats and identified the driver of speeding ambassador.In 1984 during riots he was travelling in train and saw people beating an elderly sikh man.He intervened and he was beaten and with the elderly person was thrown on the railway tracks on outerskirts of ghaziabad.He was the greatest guy and had a passion for life.He would stand up for his principles...He was the first person in our family to dabble into photography...he had taken some of my first B&W pictures in 74-75 era...
My uncle lost his only child and wife of 19 years in a car crash on 17 april 2005.He was suppose to accompany his wife and daughter on the trip but he couldn't make it.We all miss him and all of them but you've to face each day...
There is no help in india, here i see people into bereavement counselling etc.On may 5 he visited his home for the first time,My naani(grand ma) grand ma's 2 sister and one of my cousins accompanied him.He needed some documents from home.He opened his wife's cupboard and cried then he closed it.Went into his daughters room she was in X grade and he said "sara used to sit and study here"...something snapped in him i guess he told everyone that he's going to the local market and never came back...the whole family spend close to 36 hours and finally searching through all the morgues in delhi found him...
Sara (my uncles 16 year old daughter )topped X std CBSE board exam with 97% and she died on her birthday last year i.e. 17 april...
In that car crash we lost 5 family members ,my uncle committed suicide....for us who live especially my grandparents.. each day is a struggle
but life goes on...
I hope you feel better because these kind of accidents shake the very core of our existence.May you find peace.
what can I say? I saw what I saw... was it a hoax show about this issue, I wonder?? I can't afford his clothes, so I don't really care anyways; but, you are right, Ruth; if it's not true; then what show did I watch? was it a Saturday night live, skit perhaps? lol but, what I saw was Oprah asking him if it was true; when the commercial was over, he was gone... she got a huge round of applause... so not sure what I saw...so this is weird... hmmm...
North
I think everyone here needs a little something to smile about....so here are some jokes i found on www.lokvani.com
-------------------------------------------------
From the WordPerfect Help Desk
Actual dialogue of a former WordPerfect Customer Support employee with a caller:
"Ridge Hall computer assistant; may I help you?"
"Yes, well, I'm having trouble with WordPerfect."
"What sort of trouble?"
"Well, I was just typing along, and all of a sudden the words went away."
"Went away?"
"They disappeared."
"Hmm. So what does your screen look like now?"
"Nothing."
"Nothing?"
"It's blank; it won't accept anything when I type."
"Are you still in WordPerfect, or did you get out?"
"How do I tell?"
"Can you see the C: prompt on the screen?"
"What's a sea-prompt?"
"Never mind. Can you move the cursor around on the screen?"
"There isn't any cursor, I told you, it won't accept anything I type."
"Does your monitor have a power indicator?"
"What's a monitor?"
"It's the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV. Does it have a little light that tells you when it's on?"
"I don't know."
"Well, then look on the back of the monitor and find where the power cord goes into it. Can you see that?"
"Yes, I think so."
"Great. Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it's plugged into the wall."
".......Yes, it is."
"When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that there were two cables plugged into the back of it, not just one?"
"No."
"Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and find the other cable."
".......Okay, here it is."
"Follow it for me, and tell me if it's plugged securely into the back of your computer."
"I can't reach."
"Uh huh. Well, can you see if it is?"
"No."
"Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean way over?"
"Oh, it's not because I don't have the right angle - it's because it's dark."
"Dark?"
"Yes - the office light is off, and the only light I have is coming in from the window."
"Well, turn on the office light then."
"I can't."
"No? Why not?"
"Because there's a power outage."
"A power... A power outage? Ah, Okay, we've got it licked now. Do you still have the boxes and manuals and packing stuff your computer came in?"
"Well, yes, I keep them in the closet."
"Good. Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it up just like it was when you got it. Then take it back to the store you bought it from."
"Really? Is it that bad?"
"Yes, I'm afraid it is."
"Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?"
"Tell them you're too stupid to own a computer."
I worked with an individual who plugged their power strip back into itself and for the life of them could not understand why their computer would not turn on.
"Do you know anything about this fax-machine?"
"A little. What's wrong?"
"Well, I sent a fax, and the recipient called back to say all she received was a cover-sheet and a blank page. I tried it again, and the same thing happened."
"How did you load the sheet?"
"It's a pretty sensitive memo, and I didn't want anyone else to read it by accident. So I folded it so only the recipient could open it and read it."
I recently saw a distraught young lady weeping beside her car. "Do you need some help?" I asked.
"I knew I should have replaced the battery in this remote control door unlocker. Now I can't get into my car. Do you think that store would have a battery for this?"
"Hmmm, I dunno. Do you have an alarm, too?" I asked.
"No, just this remote," she answered, handing it and the car keys to me.
As I took the keys and manually unlocked the door, I said, "Why don't you drive over there and check about the batteries? It's a long walk."
Tech Support: What does the screen say now?
Caller: It says 'Hit ENTER when ready.'
Tech Support: Well?
Caller: How do I know when it's ready?
A man moved to New Mexico and called his credit company to change his address. When he told the girl where he was moving, she told him that she couldn't help him since they didn't issue cards outside of the United States!
My friend called his car insurance company to tell them to change his address from Texas to Vermont. The woman who took the call asked where Vermont was. As he tried to explain, she interrupted and said, "Look, I'm not stupid or anything, but what state is it in?"
Several years ago, we had an intern who was none too swift. One day, he was typing and turned to a secretary and said, "I'm almost out of typing paper. What do I do?"
"Just use copier machine paper," she told him.
With that, the intern took his last remaining blank piece of paper, put it on the photocopier and proceeded to make five blank copies.
One of our servers crashed. I was watching our new system administrator trying to restore it. He inserted a CD and needed to type a path name to a directory named "i386."
He started to type it and paused, asking me, "Where's the key for that line thing?"
I asked what he was talking about, and he said, "You know, that one that looks like an upside-down exclamation mark."
I replied, "You mean the letter 'i'?"
And he said, "Yeah, that's it!"
I was in a car dealership a while ago when a large motor home was towed into the garage. The front of the vehicle was in dire need of repair and the whole thing generally looked like it had been an extra in "Twister." I asked the manager what had happened. He told me that the driver had set the cruise control, and then went in back to make a sandwich.
Hello Everyone,
Patty, thank you for taking the time to write the info, that was pretty much all I could find, that he never said it and he was never on Oprah. Also, it is amazing that this rumor goes back a few years and it is still being passed off as a true story-today. The long life of a bad rumor as told and retold on the internet!
North, I am also at a loss as to what you watched. I have never purchased Tommy Hilfiger's clothes, too expensive, also his name is on every piece of clothing and I think we should get the clothes cheaper since one would basically be a "walking" free advertisment for his brand. I just think if we are calling to boycott someone we should take the time to check the validity of the informaion.
Hello.
Did anyone else see Deepak on Nancy Grace last night?
I missed all but about 5 minutes of when he was on and all I heard them talking about was the woman who shot and killed her minister husband.
Deepak said something about religion and spirituality and then he left.
Did anyone else see that?
Aloha Tiffany
And Mahalo as I missed Deepak and I love catching him on CNN.
I found this link: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/29/ng.01.html
Here is some of the transcript.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Church of Christ is a relatively new church. It was started about 150 years ago by Alexander Campbell, and it`s unfortunately a very legalistic sect, and they tend to use methods of intimidation and pressure tactics.
They claim that they are the only ones going to heaven and all other people are condemned to hell. It kind of is a borderline cult, unfortunately. I don`t want to make it out to be some kind of a Hare Krishna group, but it has cult-like characteristics.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Is the Church of Christ a cult? Is it cult-like? Did that play into this murder in any way?
With us, Dr. Ruble Shelly, professor of philosophy and religion at Rochester College. He`s a Church of Christ minister. He knows the Winkler family. Let`s take a look.
Single leader, cult-like qualities, trying to isolate members, members happy and enthusiastic -- I don`t think that`s a bad thing -- experimental rather than logical, hide what they teach, say they`re the only true group.
Dr. Shelly, response?
DR. RUBLE SHELLY, CHURCH OF CHRIST, PROFESSOR OF PSYCHOLOGY: It certainly doesn`t fit the criteria you just gave. We certainly have never created those charismatic personalities. We`re a network of independent, local churches.
And your guests so far, I`m the only one who has to plead guilty to being a member of the Church of Christ. And Churches of Christ certainly are not cultic in any of that classic sense.
We`re a conservative, religious group in the Christian tradition. You`d ask one of our members, and we`d say we jump right off the pages of the New Testament. Historically, we come out of what`s called the American Restoration movement, but the cultic label -- I can`t imagine anyone sticking that label.
GRACE: Dr. Shelly, what is the role of women in the Church of Christ?
SHELLY: Well, we believe that God created the human race male and female in his image and that Paul said there is no male or female in Christ. There are some male leadership options, in terms of elders of churches, and most preaching ministries that are reserved to males, but that`s not a cultic fact.
GRACE: Why? Why?
SHELLY: Well, that`s because of a biblical interpretation issue that Southern Baptists and many other groups share in common with Churches of Christ about male leadership in local churches. Churches of Christ are a conservative religious group.
GRACE: OK, wait, wait, wait. Dr. Shelly, no offense, by why, why only male leadership? Does anybody remember Mary Magdalene, ding ding?
SHELLY: Well, Mary Magdalene was not an apostle. All of the apostles were, in fact...
GRACE: Well, Judas was, and that certainly isn`t saying very much.
SHELLY: Well, we don`t want to quarrel with gender issues, with regard to salvation. And probably, I`m more broad-minded and a bit more liberal in terms of things that I would affirm that women have a right to do in church leadership than some of the people in our churches, but generally...
GRACE: OK. Dr. Shelly, let me move on, because I agree with you.
SHELLY: No, you asked the question as to where it came from.
GRACE: Yes, and I`d love an answer.
SHELLY: First, Timothy 2:11 and 2:12 talks about male leadership in churches. And that text has a great deal hung on it by religious conservatives to say that fathers in homes and elders in churches as male leadership, protective leadership, not abusive leadership.
GRACE: Dr. Shelly, do members of the Church of Christ church believe that that is the only way to heaven?
SHELLY: No. Churches of Christ began in an historical movement whose slogan was, "Christians only, not the only Christians"...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, don`t need a history lesson, as much as I appreciate it. We`re only an hour long. Do you believe that Jews and Muslims...
SHELLY: Well, you asked the question. The answer is no, because our slogan is...
GRACE: ... will also go to heaven?
SHELLY: Christians only, not the only Christians. We don`t believe we`re the only Christians or the only ones going to heaven.
GRACE: OK, now, you know...
SHELLY: There may be individuals who do.
GRACE: You have got a great sense of career as a lawyer.
SHELLY: Churches of Christ are a loose network of independent churches. And I suspect you could find someone who believes most anything on your scale.
GRACE: Reverend, yes, no, do you believes that Jews or Muslims can go to heaven?
SHELLY: I believe that Jews and Muslims are to be shared the gospel of Christ. Now, that`s a much larger issue.
GRACE: Gotcha, OK. All right. I get it.
SHELLY: I do believe that Jesus is the only path to heaven, of course. Conservative Christians believe that.
GRACE: Deepak Chopra, response?
CHOPRA: You know, when I listen to these debates, I can`t help but think that religion has become divisive, quarrelsome, and sometimes even idiotic.
I think it`s based on very tribal views that go back to an ancient past. And perhaps we should see a future where religion has no relevance anymore, but a true universal spirituality, which is not based on dogma or...
GRACE: OK. I can`t decide whether to agree with you or clobber you...
CHOPRA: So don`t.
GRACE: ... so let me just think about that just for a few moments, as we go to the phones.
CHOPRA: It`s tribal. It`s tribal.
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: To Jan in Arizona. Welcome, Jan.
CALLER: Hi, Nancy.
GRACE: Hi, dear.
CALLER: I`m your number-one fan.
GRACE: Thank you.
CALLER: Why is the minister`s wife getting all the hand-wringing and, "Oh, my goodness, why did she do it?" Women all over the country are sitting in prison for life for killing their husbands. They go to jail; they`re guilty. She`s confessed. She`s guilty. I don`t get all the hand- wringing and special attention on the religious community.
GRACE: You know what? That is an excellent question, Jan in Arizona.
Let me say good-bye to Dr. Chopra. Thank you, sir. He`s on his way to Bahrain for world peace. Good luck.
Dear Andaleeb,
I am sorry to hear about your uncle. It is very heartrending to hear such stories, where a beautiful family has been wasted by a twist of fate. Sometimes one wonders why, but the ways of God are mysterious. I am not a fatalist nor a very religious person, but some questions are indeed difficult to answer. For me, my family is everything I have. Rest is immaterial. If I were in your uncle's position, I would probably do the same thing.
I pray that their souls rest in peace.
Regards,
Ravi Kulkarni
Hi Patty,
Thanks for sharing regarding your experiences with A Course in Miracles. :) I never practiced all the lessons, but one of your favorites is one I remember well too. "I am never upset for the reason I think I am and I will not use my own past learning as the light to guide me now."
I don't quite understand what you are talking about when you talk about special relationships and holy encounters though. Do you mean people that we are karmically connected to? And people who help us to see more clearly?
Hi David,
Nice to hear from you again too. :)
Love, Kristin
Geez, isn't it interesting how a rumor can rapidly spread and even years later be taken as fact! It makes me feel quiet and like not taking things so seriously. It's so easy to get wound up by things we hear or read and really - whose to say what actually happened. I read a story the other day that had me feeling heartbroken for the rest of the day. In the end I sent a prayer to this person, knowing "there was nothing that their holiness could not do." (I read that in "A Course in Miracles" that same night and used it for my prayer.) But all the while I realized - I didn't really know what actually happened because it didn't happen to me. And even if it had, then again, there is just my perception.
Love, Kristin
Hello Everyone,
Just read this in online this morining.
On June 2, 2006..DIVINE STRAKE..the military will test a 700 ton explosive, the biggest open air chemical blast ever, 90 miles northwest of Las Vegas.
DIVINE STRAKE? Who comes up with this stuff? also,
Iran just tested a new missle capable of flying over 1200 miles undetected by radar and able to hit 3 different sites.
This was my morning news.
Just think, if all this intelligence and energy was being used to the benefit of a happier, healthier, more loving planet- what our future would hold for us.
Isn't it amazing how so of our much human intelligence is used to manifest our stupidity!peace ruth
Aloha Kristin
The gift of the course it allows the student to experience life symbolically. The student starts to view everything symbolically. Meaningless relationships become special and when there is a difference of views, the relationship becomes a holy encounter. That is where the student shifts to know God is the cause and we are the effect.
Karma (the part of us that knows it is perception then projection) becomes sacred because a new trust comes in. The student knows to ask the Holy Spirit for another view that would be like Deepak would say the process will allow the student to have an objective view when the student feels subjective. To detach instead of reacting with the old patterns of fight or flight, to respond vs. react. Though you might have to react to get to that place where: the only dance is the me and God, the wedding is within, the marriage is within. It is just the reactions of fight and flight create more karma. So we become more skillful in choosing our awareness of what a special relationship is and not just react because what goes around comes around. We know are going to have to emotionally detach because again God is the cause and we are the effect. It is the gift of loving abstract thought. Easy to say:) and that is why the author of the course takes the student so deep to believe it through the lessons.
The holy encounter is the portal to let us know we have somehow (our ego) put something between God and our self. When we come out of the portal a new understanding of how we usurped God and placed an illusion in its place become more aware of His presence. He is totality all we see is God. The ground we walk on becomes sacred as everyone, everything we see. An explanation always follows with a new perspective. And it takes two to go to Heaven so we are going to create a special relationship again where we exclude God because Christ’s Love is inclusive.
Caroline Myss uses symbolic sight. On her Call to Symbolic Life audio book she uses the expression: step into the crime scene. Say student was raped in the past and because of this memory with the cellular system any situation that creates stress becomes a crime scene-a holy encounter. Our health is created by how we interact with the environment. Say the stress might be having dinner with someone or people that invalidate the student. The student feels if they say, “No” they would be walling up, reacting by fighting or flying. So by consciously stepping into the crime scene while going to the dinner ("I am never upset for the reason I think I am and I will not use my own past learning as the light to guide me now.") the student is changing the template. We do this over and over for the awareness God is the Cause and we are the effect is much more satisfying than anything in the material world.
That is why at course groups you see so much interacting. It is like people have been married for twenty years. It is they know it takes two to go to Heaven.
Eckhart Tolle shares failed relationships are a lot faster into enlightenment than going out in the desert for forty years. You can reincarnate right in the middle of a fight. The course, the author shows you how for Christ’s Love is Inclusive. We usurped God. We never did anything wrong as Deepak shares we are the food. I hope this isn’t more than you wanted to hear:) and ask David, keep asking for the key is always asking for another view. Love patty
Aloha Ruth
In Hawaii it has rained over forty days. It is global warming. Bush cut money that was supposed to go for awareness of global warming. The water off shore of Florida is like 7 degrees warmer, which would explain hurricanes like Katrina. The polar bears don’t have the ice they need to keep afloat while fishing for survival.
I can imagine what this year’s weather is going to do for the tourist economy in the Islands for the coming years. They say we are making the shift from the reptilian brain to the mammalian brain, who are conscious of their actions in relationship to the future. May all governments have the brains of birds in this Holy Instant:) Love patty
Wow, thanks Patty for posting that piece of the Nancy Grace show--I really appreciate that.
But was that all Deepak said? I think that's an hour long show so I'm just wondering...or was there some before that?
I'll have to look into it...thank you again.
Aloha Patty,
Thanks for your explanation. I think I understand most of what you are saying. Interesting - the idea that when we have a difference of view that is a "holy encounter." Now that I think of it, when I feel the strongest resistance to something, that is generally a sign that there is something within myself I need to accept, understand or see more clearly. So, it's an opportunity for growth in some way.
Something else that I remember "struck" me about the Course in Miracles was the emphasis on forgiveness. I think that is certainly a key. Forgiving ourselves and others. And learning to be defenseless.
Love, Kristin
Greetings from Honolulu,
Rain, rain and still more rain. But forecasters predict sun for this weekend.
Oxana is swimming at the outdoor pool while dad takes a moment to send this greeting.
Hello to all of you my dear friends, Kavita, Tiffany, Mieke, Kate, Dontella, North, David and others.
Love,
Ron.
Mallika, What happened with Sears?? Joanie
Patty: Did you forget to add, "....and forty nights," too?!
Ron: So good to hear from you, how amazing your trip to paradise has thus far resulted in the "Biblical soaking" that Patty just commented on--the day after I left that school in Washington state last fall, the rain began to fall there, and fall, and....well, almost in perfect concert with Southern Arizona going for record-shattering drought during the same time-frame, the Seattle-and-surrounding areas of much of the Northwest have been inundated with all of Phoenix's much-needed winter rains....
....and we haven't even mentioned the stuff plaguing parts of TX-like 300-mile-long dusts storms, let alone Europe's freakish weather patterns these last two years, Siberia and Russia's bitter cold spells, and on and on.
But...as long as GWB says global-warming isn't yet a 100%-positive as a certainty, or even 25% for that matter, well....business-as-usual then, ie. back-to-war in the name of Global Security!
Glad to hear that Oxana is still taking advantage of the pool anyway!
Hope her mind's insistence for that "sunny Hawaii" brings about that very experience this weekend, for you all--and make sure Oxana knows that "Rain-Makers" as the growing demand for "Sun-Makers" is--good career choice for her to keep her focus on! Dave
Ron: You or your young son don't happen to have the middle name of "Noah," do you--or are you into "boat-building," by chance??!! Dave
Aloha Tiffany, Kristin and Dave
What I love about catching Deepak on these type of shows is how he teaches us how to interact with our environment.
CHOPRA: You know, when I listen to these debates, I can`t help but think that religion has become divisive, quarrelsome, and sometimes even idiotic.
I think it`s based on very tribal views that go back to an ancient past. And perhaps we should see a future where religion has no relevance anymore, but a true universal spirituality, which is not based on dogma or...
GRACE: OK. I can`t decide whether to agree with you or clobber you...
CHOPRA: So don`t.
GRACE: ... so let me just think about that just for a few moments, as we go to the phones.
CHOPRA: It`s tribal. It`s tribal.
Deepak takes Nancy, the quests and viewers out of a hypnotic trance that religion has evolved us into a place civilized behavior by clarifying the truth. He was in a special relationship (the show), shifted into a holy encounter (spot lighted the insanity of the topic: good or evil by joining the discussion of telling them how he felt about the insanity being projected) and Holy Relationship(rejoined the group by clarifying the truth, his perception from the Holy Spirit, Non-Local, whatever he chooses to call it or could be untangling the hierarchy by exclaiming: “It is tribal. It’s tribal.”): left to go to Bahrain for world peace.
In AA they would say it is putting principles before personalities.
Kristen the course is a course of forgiveness:) I found this on another site: One Paragraph computerized summary of the ACIM Textbook (the 1972 manuscript as given to Hugh Lynn Cayce by Helen Schucman and William Thetford)
"Only that which God knows, exists. To God all things are possible. God loves you forever, has blessed you forever, wills you perfect happiness and has given you everything. You are as God created you, God’s perfect, guiltless Son, His only treasure, alike to God as God is to Himself, able to love only as God loves, and able to know God completely. Your mind is one with God’s, your function of thought comes from God and is in God, with certainty that is always of God. The Holy Spirit teaches God’s holy son his holiness. Listen to the Holy Spirit. Your worth was established by God. You are the Will of God. God’s Will is that you forgive God’s Son entirely."
And Dave I did forget the 40 nights.:) love patty
Hello all,
Ron, you finally made it! I'm so jealous...
Patty, I agree with what you said above how Deepak shifted the conversation. Brilliant!
And to whoever sent NM some much needed rain-THANK YOU! I had the pleasure of waking up to that sound this morning and the sky is completely overcast. It's just cool...I love it!
Hi David,
I have a question for you, on a previous Open Thread you posted saying that the Four Corners lies geo-magnetically or geo-centrically with the Great Pyramids--remember?
I was wondering if you read that on a specific website or book or where I might be able to find that information..?
I found a couple different websites that mentioned it briefly, but I was really interested in finding out more about it.
If you know of any links or sources I'd much appreciate it.
Thanks David!
Patty,
I just wanted to say that your posts on this string have been very moving to me. Don't no why. Ptobably doesn't matter why. It's just that thet are.
Thanks.
Tiffany,
Where in NM are you?
Hi Tiffany: The comments about geo-centric/geo-magnetic positions comes from a vast distillation of, quite literally, thousands of books, tapes, CD's, websites, teachers/lectures, etc. etc.--these days I just study very specific stuff, if you will.
My mind became this huge stewing pot where everything was slowly mixed in over time, simmered for 10 years, with "A Course in Miracles" being the primary catalyst that seemed to polarize what was true (-er), from what was more the non-sensical gibberish clinging to the sides of the ego-vat that is my conscious mind--and then a steady straining of the residual "goo" from the more purified body-of-knowledge that serves as grist-for-the-subconscious-mill's deeper programming.
The pyramids were supposedly built on something of an energized vortex that is derived from being at a great latitudinal/longtitudinal grid composed of "ley lines" that, were they seen from their "energy emanations," would like exactly like the quantum grid that is often used to give imagery to the possible interwoven fabrics that precipate the cosmos.
The "ley lines" are, to the earth, as the invisble energy meridians of acupuncture are to the physical body.
Although the great continental shifts continue to move about, how ever slowly that may seem, the "Four Corners" area is kind of the heart center, with a very real "energetic pulse" to it that Shaman's and Medicine men attune to (and of course, "Medicine Women!") for certain reasons, and this "heartbeat" is directly connected to the region of the Pyramids of Giza--like the various chambers of the human heart are so connected to each other.
It's kind of like if you stuck a big sewing needle (or a big acupuncture needle) through the Giza platuea, and wriggled it gently around through the interior of the earth, and let it "gravitate" unguided by "your will" to just jab it on through the globe, the tip would, of it's own accord, find various points it would click and resonate with, and you'd see that tip pop out at "Four Corners," as one of the vortexes it's connected to.
This same area where you are at, is one of the oldest places that is part of the original landmass of the one continent that all others have since split off from--it is ancient my dear Tiffany, and has seen time pass since the very first of the seven great civilizations of Man--we are now entering into the Seventh Epoch, from which we will not slip back into darkness and "forget everything," as we have done before!
I believe the Mayans and other Native American "seers" and record-keepers say this is the advent of the Fourth time; it's all relative, as they are speaking about the same ushering in of the greatest of "New Ages."
Edgar Cayce's and Ramtha's stuff are both very very consistent with these same themes of human history, as are "The Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East," but it takes "time" to digest just how magnificent is our true heritage, and that of the soul-and-body of this, our current home, the Mother Earth.
This place-in-space, "She" is very much a young teenage female, with her "harmonies" (hormones) going to Rockin'-and-Rollin', as would any young Female awakening to Her own soul's rhythm, who's hearing and feeling the beat-of-a-different-drummer (Buddy Holly and Elvis, and some of that fabulous dance music that comes from India and Africa, too!), and what a dance this one's going to be; as I understand it, 1/2 the Universe will be tapping their feet as This Girl gets to swayin'-and-shakin' with the new "Cosmic beat" a comin' on. Dave
Hello, to you too, Ron!! Have fun for all of us, will ya?(smiles.)
Ruth, not sure what I watched either; about the Hilfiger, issue?? I saw a show with him and Oprah asking him that question; so maybe I am wondering, if it was a "spoof"? I can't and wasn't advisig to boycott his clothes; we don't sell them in this little town anyway; most here, couldn't afford his socks! lol
North
I've just posted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Freedoms - with a Preamble, and Articles 1-30 here:
http://spiritsinmotion.blogspot.com/
I have asked an open question there. Answer there, or here; but, I would love to read everyone's thoughts on the Declaration!
North
Aloha Laurance
I was listening to Caroline Myss's Call to Live A Symbolic Life yesterday and she had shared religion is political, spirituality is a call from within. And that is what I felt the message was repeated over and over when I saw the movie Crash.
And Aloha Dave
I enjoyed your sharing about “The pyramids were supposedly built on something of an energized vortex that is derived from being at a great latitudinal/longitudinal grid composed of "ley lines" that, were they seen from their “energy emanations," would like exactly like the quantum grid that is often used to give imagery to the possible interwoven fabrics that precipate the cosmos.”
I remember one time doing the I Ching and what came up was for a school of fish. In order for the school of fish to make a turn each fish had to be in a certain place. I just finished the book House of Bush House of Saud that explains the insanity of the White House. The Bush’s have for decades assisting the Saud’s in money laundering for arms exchange for the exchange for control of the petrol dollar. I feel the US is imploding upon itself to find the quantum grid. We will all be sovereign by 2012. And of course we just have to remove time:) for it to be in a Holy Instant. Love patty
Dear ARM, thanks for your thoughts; just read your post above, not sure how I missed it!! Merci, you are "sweet" to offer a kudos...
North
Dear David,
Awesome! Thank you for your post. I had kind of assumed it was just a gathering of information from various sources, but I wanted to be sure there might not be a whole site or a whole book devoted to it. Maybe there is?
I had mentioned this to a friend of mine and he was interested in reading more about it as well, so I'll pass this along to him.
Thanks once again for the post David!
And Laurence,
I'm in Farmington--are you familiar with NM?
wow! Canadian Juno Awards are on! Here's an arm-chair a la' Joan Rivers imposter opinion:
Fergie of Black-Eyed Peas; looked terribly embarassed by the antics of ONE or two of her band on the red carpet talking to whatshername(sorry, I forgot!); and I didn't blame her..grow up guys; we see you are "pretty."
NickleBack, exploded the opening song with flames, and a good song about love; not a fan of fire for back-dropping though(eek)we know what happens when they go awry!
Michael Buble wows the croud; showing WE gots the good taste, waay over hereee in Canada too..what a talented young man!
I would like to lodge a complaint though; about choice of hostess?
Sighhh,,,sorry folks; but anyone whom has to use their own fake body parts for a giggle; is just well..not musicly entertaining to me, at all, at all?? I don't know; maybe men have concocted a "song" about Pamela's fake ones? so let's here it then..what's they got to do, with music exactly?
To me, the Hostess should have been - Michelle Write, Shania!! Celine,,, OR anyone else, but Pam!?
Well, maybe it's me(oh of course it is) and I expected(never expect, only hope; say that 100 times) more of a classy version of the Oscars, not Saturday Night Live; party-parlay?! lol
The show continues...
North
Dear Ron,
Thanks for the greetings.
I hope that you and your family are having a great time in Honolulu.
A kiss to Baby Filip.
Love,
Donatella
Bryan Adams rocks!!
I click "Remember Me" on this comment form everytime I load the page. This makes me laugh. The page is toying with me. And here, I thought the page was the toy.
Greetings again from Honolulu,
Well, the rain has finally ended and paradise has emerged in all its resplendent glory. It is truly all it's cracked up to be, the scenic beauty, the unparalled opulence, the ambience, the grace, the magic, the smell etc.
It is the playground of the fortunate and the priveleged.
The kids are having fun. Oxana is at the pool, she has made a few little friends. Filip is blissfully sleeping in the computer room on the 6th floor where the pool and tennis court are located.
Tomorrow evening we are going for a dinner cruise near Pearl Harbor.
Until next time, best of luck to all of you, Tiffany, Kate, Kavita, Mieke, Donatella, David, North, Laurence, Craig, Cinda, Dara, Skeptisch, David and others.
Love,
Ron & Family.
wow, sounds heavenly, Ron!! Have a good swim for me!! miss your presence; Mieke's daught-in-laws father suddenly died last week, the funeral is tomorrow; can we keep Mieke and Karoliena in our prayers tomorrow/today?
North
Dear Ron,
Thank you for posting a note about Hawaii!
You and your family are in the Paradise of the Pacific! And in Honolulu, the 'place of shelter' for you and your family to enjoy. May it be a time of rest, renewal, fun, laughter - and please include Tiffany and me, in an evening toast! Salut, and enjoy your margarita!
It does indeed sound heavenly, and I am so happy to hear that Oxana and Filip are enjoying it!
Can you post any pictures on North's site? It would be great see you and your family, and make us feel we are there with you. Oh, we are!
With love,
~ Kate
I look forward to your next post!
BE our guest, Ron; at Spirits, to host an album! : ) Hey! you too, huh Kate(wink)? WE are six, Spirit-Members strong there...only shows last 4 new mem's though, unless ya search when logged in(I ain't no manual(wink.)
some great discussions to respond to as well.
click my North-link to get TO:
SpiritsoftheFourWinds
what a great place, to host members albums!! I am willing to delete some of my albums if necessary, to expand membership "perks" : ) to those, wishing to share their picture-diaries with all?
I believe though; each mem gets their own space-meter, so I don't foresee a prob. with uploads on the sites, whole?
North
http://spiritsinmotion.blogspot.com/
Dear North,
Thank you!
I have a message for you on Deepak's article 'why people...'
Love to you,
~ Kate
Dear Kate, ok; will go find it, thanks!
Love to you as well,
North
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