Gotham Chopra - September 22, 2006
It was interesting this week to watch Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad roll through nyc like a couple of West Coast rappers and steal the show from the natives.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in particular, seemed both insane and endearing at the same time. Despite being simultaneously fascist and oddly sensible, he seems to exude a charisma that you can't help but kind of like. His "aw shucks" apology to the people of NYC for causing traffic jams and his confused smile toward journalists asking questions he just didn't understand kind of reminded me of another aw shucks president who often exhibits the same strange affect.
Then there was Chavez. Not quite as endearing because he's been around too long crying wolf, he's kind of like the local Bin Laden. Not quite as resourceful or inspiring charisma-wise, he still is good for some fiery salvos aimed at the US. It was just sort of fascinating to see him launch them IN THE US. No matter what, you have to love that about the US of A - the way that a bad house guest can just enter the can, drop the meanest you-know-what, not courtesy flush, not light a candle, not anything - and then just carry on at the buffet line. I mean seriously, it takes one hell of a host to tolerate that.
Then there were our own guys - the presidents Bush, Clinton, and Gore (I'm counting him) - all very visible and audible. Everyone seems annoyed - Bush for not being the coolest cat in his own kennel, Clinton for suddenly being blamed for everything that's wrong in the world, and Gore for, well, not being legitimately considered a president. Actually I made that up - but I would still be pissed for that if I were him.
My favorite moment of the week, however, came today in DC when Presidents Bush and Musharraf (Pakiland) held a joint news conference. Rumors were swirling about the alleged threat the US levelled against Pakistan back in 2001 that it would "bomb Pakistan back to the stone age." Um yeah - that sounds like something our president would say :(. When asked about it President Bush just looked uncomfortable as if he was the guy who had to use the aforementioned bathroom just after the messy guest. But Musharraf was even better, declaring that he was gag bound by his publisher Simon Schuster because presumably the explanation or verification of the declaration is contained in his upcoming memoir - to be published by the SS next week. You just had to love that moment - a head-of-state not revealing stuff to protect his advance. That's good stuff. The fact that Pakistan and the US are outright allies remains an amazing thing altogether. Pakistan continues to be a pretty radical place and the fact that they just cut a "you don't harass us, we won't even pretend to harass you" deal with the Taliban is pretty awesome. It's good Americans don't really pay attention because then we'd be really sad. Oh well.
Anyway - I'm trying to read the newspaper again more so I can feel plugged in and relevant. We have a war going on amongst our neighbors which is pretty fascinating because you can kind of see how the same impulses, motivations, and petty enmities drive conflicts big and small. I won't bore you with details but that's what's up.
Seriously - just light the candle.
Later
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Posted by Gotham Chopra at September 22, 2006 07:53 PM
'nation' singular sorry
peace
"At Ramadan, Christians pray for Muslims:
Groups launch campaign asking God to help Muslims accept Jesus"
http://[delinker]www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14957904/
That is funny, I wonder why they do not pray for the Judaists to acceopt Christ also, or the Trinity even . . .
I wonder where the Hindus and Buddhists fit into this . . .
O, wait, we do not need any of 'their' resources at this time now do we, as long as 'they' submit to the 'rule of law,' and democ, er, um, freedo, no, um, well as long as 'they' submit anyway huh . . .
Hmm
Strange
Peace
Hi Gotham,
I don’t think the USA deserves too much credit for putting up with Chavez’s unkind remarks, after all, it is the United Nations, and everyone has Diplomatic immunity and all that. He also has good reason to be pissed at GW, since the Bush administration recently backed an unsuccessful coup against him. I did like Chavez’s idea about moving the UN to a neutral site somewhere. Maybe they could all get together, buy the island of Martinique, from France, and move it down, where things are more laid back.
While Chavez certainly stunk up the white house bathroom, he also showed his generous side by offering to double the already free and discounted oil his government’s company Citgo is delivering to Indian Tribal reservations, and low income neighborhoods in the USA, including the Bronx.
Regards,
Stan
Gotham: I liked your observations about Presidents Clinton and Gore; maybe the "Stoned-Age" guy is still really just angry that not everyone recognizes him as a legitimate leader in the US, and abroad--or "a broad," since I think I remember an actress, either Sandra Bullock or Julia Roberts, saying "He's not my president!"
But then again, do you think King George's current anger might actually be a personal jealousy maybe; one whose source lies in the fact (not to be confused as mis-worded from "lies in fact, and about facts?!)--you've almost touched on it here---yes, that's my "conspiracy theory," George is pissed that Musharraf got ahead of him in line with a Simon & Schuster contract, and that James Frey got more attention over his book-of........possible prevarications and truth-stretching......
......well, so what am I supposed to do with the candle, Gotham, are you saying you want me to meditate in the bathroom and chant OM?!
No way am I gonna do breathing exercises in a bathroom that Hugo and George just used; at least not unless it has an "exhaust and emissions" fan that's cleared the air for about......well, it is great to see that the US of A still allows such "vocally open" guys to speak in NYC--I'm more worried about what the average American Joe can say publically (or privately--like on the phone, or in a domestic e-mail even!).
Thanks for the dry-wit, Gotham--I'd have loved to see you do Anderson Cooper's Ahmadinejad interview--can you get Hugo on the phone with the same kind of questions? Dave
Gotham: As a journalist, would be very interesting to get your take on the following--what your intuition would say about the "spin" that might come from this one, in any event--Dave:
From Reuters--
"PARIS - A French regional newspaper quoted a French secret service report on Saturday as saying that Saudi Arabia is convinced that al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden died of typhoid in Pakistan last month.
L’Est Republicain printed what it said was a copy of the report dated Sept. 21 and said it was shown to President Jacques Chirac, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and France’s interior and defense ministers on the same day.
“According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead,” the document said."......
Hello Gotham and Everyone,
I do not know what was more ridiculous Musharraf not being able to comment due to his book "deal" or our President playing dumb to the fact that we told half the World we would bomb them back to the stone age if they didn't do what we told them to do after 9/11. I do remember thinking at the time, I wonder what we said to get Pakistan to go along with us? Now, I know. Guess I do not have to read the book!
peace ruth
the war is not "amongst neighbors." it is against the ideals and people of the US, and waged by our very own govt. it is against the indigenous, fuel-owning peoples of the world, and waged by our very own government.
but i guess its amusing, if your heart is a bit detached from all this corruption and suffering. i only wish mine were.
—mourning american
Why shouldn't Musharraf hook himself into the Bush Bashing economy? You can't deny it's a big business, and it always comes with free press. Even the Dixie Chicks got back on board after apologizing, asking for forgiveness. They realized the business they helped start was thriving. Neil Young still gets air play on a sucky album. Genna Davis got Emmy and a Golden Globe for a part in a sucky low rated canceled show due to an off shoot the Bush Bashing Money Machine: Hillary Goooooooooooooood.
Chavez and Ahmadinejad getting the Martin and Lewis treatment by the American Media is just one of many side affects of keeping this self perpetuating organism alive. It will be interesting to see how long it lasts after Bush is gone from office. Will the press ever forgive him for sending them to war?
Has for Musharraf's bombing threat comments, I believe it. But I think it was probably more like "You help us find him, or we're going to come find him ourselves and it won't be pretty.'
Remember this is right after 9/11. War was good. Bush was popular (he teared up in the Oval Office with the press, voice cracked, "I'm a nice guy, but I've got a job to do'. A clip you never see anymore, even with the 5 year anniversary).
Anyway, here's what I'd like to see. File these under things that cannot be done with out new samskaras:
First of all, move the UN. Maybe every 4 years, like the Olympics. It would be good for other countries. They get a free convention center or dance club after the UN leaves town (Ahmadinejad is already dressed for the dance club. Did somebody bomb Iran back to the 70's when I wasn't looking, or did he just steal that outfit from one of the hostages?) Then these diplomats can test out their free speech rights in other countries, and heads of state can take, say, downtown Kinshasa instead of taking Manhattan.
Crack down on lobbying. Not towards the government, but towards the press. First it’s green tea, then it’s coffee. Green tea great, coffee ok. Coffee bad! Great tea ok, maybe even bad. Coffee good. Coffee great! Green tea good. Now this week in TIME, Coffee: 3 cups a day. Tea: 3 to 5 cups a day. Watch for OJ and Milk to strike back soon (What other things, nonfood stuffs, do they play these games with? Bush Clinton?).
Want a lobbying and term limit solution in the Congress? Eliminate seniority and locked in chairmanships on committees. Every new Congress gets appointed to committee seats through a lottery after elections. To enact this new rule would take a national referendum of course. They would never vote this in themselves. Imagine, a freshman congressman getting the chair of the Arms Services Committee, or whatever.
It has become increasing clear that the left and right have a very common goal: No more Oil. Instead of getting ready for a another war why doesn't this country put together a very aggressive alternative energy plan. Sort of like the war machine we put together with WWII. 4 years, and every home with solar power, for starters.
I'm ready to do my part! Uncle Sam Wants Me! To buy solar power! But first I have to have another Latte. I feel my ADD starting to wane.
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Hi Bobby!! Good post!
Hi Gotham,
You wrote:
"I'm trying to read the newspaper again more so I can feel plugged in and relevant."
How come that never works for me :(
Dear Gotham
They didn't steal the show from us natives, they put on a show for us. This is what we live for. That's why we have the UN and no one else does.
love, Heather
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They didn't steal the show
Hi Gotham,
You wrote:
"I'm tryi
Hi Bobby!! Good post!
Why shouldn't Musharraf hook himself into the B
the war is not "amongst neighbors." it is again
Yeah, that is pretty rich heh Gotham, "O, I am the head of a nuclear-armed nations that was threatened by the sole world power of the world . . ."
"But I have to save the details for 'the book.'"
Damn! Why was I not Deepak's son or brother . . .
O whoops, I already tried that one
har har har
Peace brother!
Craig