DK Matai - September 21, 2006
In 1963, His Holiness Master Kirpal was asked in the USA, "Will there be a Third World War?" Master said, "Father cannot see His children dying." His Holiness explained:
"With the yardstick of love (the very essence of God's character) with us, let us probe our hearts:
. Is our life an efflorescence of God's love?
. Are we ready to serve one another with love?
. Do we keep our hearts open to the healthy influences coming from outside?
. Are we patient and tolerant toward those who differ from us?
. Are our minds coextensive with the creation of God and ready to embrace the totality of His being?
. Do we bleed inwardly at the sight of the downtrodden and the depressed?
. Do we pray for the sick and suffering humanity?
. If we do not do any of these things, we are yet far removed from God and from religion, no matter how loud we may be in our talk and pious in our platitudes and pompous in our proclamations.
. With all our inner craving for peace, we have failed and failed hopelessly to serve the cause of God's peace on earth.
. Ends and means are interlocked and cannot be separated from each other.
. We cannot have peace so long as we try to achieve it with war-like means and with the weapons of destruction and extinction.
With the germs of hatred in our hearts, racial and colour bars rankling within us, thoughts of political domination and economic exploitation surging in our bloodstream, we are working for wrecking the social structure which we have so strenuously built and not for peace, unless it be peace of the grave; but certainly not for a living peace born of mutual love and respect, trust and concord, that may go to ameliorate mankind and transform this earth into a paradise for which we so fervently pray and preach from pulpits and platforms and yet, as we proceed, it recedes away into the distant horizon."
"Where then lies the remedy? Is the disease past all cures. No, it is not so.
. "Life and Light of God" are still there to help and guide us in the wilderness.
. We see this wilderness around us because we are bewildered in the heart of our hearts and do not see things in their proper perspective.
. This vast outer world is nothing but a reflex of our own little world within us.
. The seeds of discord and disharmony in the soil of our mind bear fruit in and around us and do so in abundance.
. We are what we think and see the world with the smoke-coloured glasses that we choose to put on.
. It is a proof positive of one thing only: that we have so far not known the "Life and Light of God" and much less realized "God in man."
. We are off center in the game of life.
. We are playing it at the circumference only and never have a dip in the deepest waters of life at the center.
. This is why we constantly find ourselves caught in the vortex of the swirling waters on the surface.
. The life at the circumference of our being is, in fact, not different from the life at the center of our being. The two are, in fact, not un-identical, yet when one is divorced from the other, they look dissimilar.
. Hence the strange paradox: the physical life though a manifestation of God is full of toil and turmoil, storm and stress, dissipation and disruption.
. In our enthusiasm and zest for outer life on the plane of the senses, we have strayed too far away from our center, nay, we have altogether lost sight of it; and worse still, have cut the very moorings of our barque and no wonder then we find ourselves tossing helplessly on the sea of life.
. Rudderless and without a compass to guide our course, we are unwittingly a prey to chance winds and waters and cannot see the shoals, the sandbanks and the submerged rocks with which our way is strewn. In this frightful plight, we are drifting along the onrushing current of life—Where? We know not."
"We must then sit together as members of the One Great Family of Man so that we may understand each other.
. We are above everything else, ONE—from the level of God as our Father, from the level of Man as His children, and from the level of worshipers of the same Truth or Power of God called by so many names.
. In this august assembly of the spiritually awakened, we can learn the "Great Truth of Oneness of Life" vibrating in the Universe.
. If we do this, then surely this world with so many forms and colours will appear a veritable handiwork of God and we shall verily perceive the same life-impulse enlivening all of us.
. As His own dear children embedded in Him, like so many roses in His rose bed, let us join together in sweet remembrance of God and pray to Him for the well-being of the world in this hour of imminent danger of annihilation that stares us in the face.
. May God, in His infinite mercy, save us all, whether we deserve it or not."
With love in His Name
DK
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Posted by DK Matai at September 21, 2006 03:13 PM
Leonard Cohen wrote these lyrics and I would like to share with you.
"The Future"
Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it's lonely here,
there's no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that's an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I've seen the future, brother:
it is murder.
Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
You don't know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I'm the little jew
who wrote the Bible
I've seen the nations rise and fall
I've heard their stories, heard them all
but love's the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It's over, it ain't going
any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future:
it is murder
Things are going to slide ...
There'll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You'll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin'
Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don't like children anyhow
I've seen the future, baby:
it is murder
Things are going to slide ...
When they said REPENT REPENT ...
Leonard Norman Cohen, CC (born September 21, 1934 in Montreal, Quebec) is a Canadian poet, novelist, and singer-songwriter. Cohen began his career in literature, publishing his first book of poetry in Montreal in 1956 and his first novel in 1963. Following his breakthrough in the music industry in the late 1960s, Cohen became one of the most distinguished and influential songwriters of the late twentieth century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Cohen
Also visit,
http://www.leonardcohen.com/DearHeather/
Copy the URL and listen to Blue Alert by Anjani Thomas.
She comes so close you feel her, then. She tells you no, and no again. Your lip is cut, on the edge of her pleated skirt. Blue alert.
I would like to share with you an influential poem by William Butler Yeats
The Second Coming
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Coming_(poem)
The poem was inspired by the Russian Revolution of 1917, which Yeats viewed as a threat to the aristocratic class he favored. An early draft of the poem includes the lines: "The Germans are . . . now to Russia come/ Though every day some innocent has died." The Germans he refers to are the proto-fascist Freikorps operating on the Eastern border of Germany, of whom Yeats approved.
Early drafts also included such lines as: "And there's no Burke to cry aloud no Pitt," and "The good are wavering, while the worst prevail."
The sphinx or sphinx-like beast described in the poem had long captivated Yeats' imagination. He wrote the Introduction to his play The Resurrection, "I began to imagine [around 1904], as always at my left side just out of the range of sight, a brazen winged beast which I associated with laughing, ecstatic destruction", noting that the beast was "Afterwards described in my poem 'The Second Coming'".
Critic Yvor Winters has observed, ". . . we must face the fact that Yeats' attitude toward the beast is different from ours: we may find the beast terrifying, but Yeats finds him satisfying - he is Yeats' judgment upon all that we regard as civilized. Yeats approves of this kind of brutality."
The word gyre used in the poem's first line is drawn from Yeats's book A Vision, which sets out a theory of history and metaphysics which Yeats claimed to have received from spirits. The theory of history articulated in A Vision centers on a diagram composed of two conical spirals, one situated inside the other, so that the widest part of one cone occupies the same plane as the tip of the other cone, and vice versa. Around these cones he imagined a set of spirals. Yeats claimed that this image (he called the spirals "gyres") captured contrary motions inherent within the process of history, and he divided each gyre into different regions that represented particular kinds of historical periods (and could also represent the psychological phases of an individual's development). Yeats believed that in 1921 the world was on the threshold of an apocalyptic moment, as history reached the end of the outer gyre (to speak roughly) and began moving along the inner gyre.
In his own notes, Yeats explained: "The end of an age, which always receives the revelation of the character of the next age, is represented by the coming of one gyre to its place of greatest expansion and of the other to that of its greatest contraction. At the present moment the life gyre is sweeping outward, unlike that before the birth of Christ which was narrowing, and has almost reached its greatest expansion. The revelation which approaches will however take its character from the contrary movement of the interior gyre. All our scientific, democratic, fact-accumulating, heterogeneous civilization belongs to the outward gyre and prepares not the continuance of itself but the revelation as in a lightning flash, though in a flash that will not strike only in one place, and will for a time be constantly repeated, of the civilization that must slowly take its place...when the revelation comes it will not come to the poor but to the great and learned and establish again for two thousand years prince and vizier."
The lines "The best lack all conviction, while the worst / Are full of passionate intensity" are a paraphrase of one of the most famous passages from Percy Bysshe Shelley's Prometheus Unbound, a book which Yeats, by his own admission, regarded from his childhood with religious awe:
In each human heart terror survives
The ravin it has gorged: the loftiest fear
All that they would disdain to think were true:
Hypocrisy and custom make their minds
The fanes of many a worship, now outworn.
They dare not devise good for man's estate,
And yet they know not that they do not dare.
The phrase "stony sleep" is drawn from The Book of Urizen by William Blake (one of the poets Yeats studied most intensely). In Blake's poem, Urizen falls, unable to bear the battle in heaven he has provoked. To ward off the fiery wrath of his vengeful brother Eternals, he frames a rocky womb for himself: "But Urizen laid in a stony sleep / Unorganiz'd, rent from Eternity." During this stony sleep, Urizen goes through seven ages of creation-birth as fallen man, until he emerges. This is the man who becomes the Sphinx of Egypt.
In the early drafts of the poem, Yeats used the phrase "the Second Birth", but substituted the phrase "Second Coming" while revising. His intent in doing so is not clear. The Second Coming described in the Biblical Book of Revelation is here anticipated as a gathering dark forces that would fill the population's need for meaning with a ghastly and dangerous sense of purpose. Though Yeats's description has nothing in common with the typically envisioned Christian concept of the Second Coming of Christ, it fits with his view that something strange and heretofore unthinkable would come to succeed Christianity, just as Christ transformed the world upon his appearance.
The "spiritus mundi" (literally "spirit of the world") is a reference to Yeats' belief that each human mind is linked to a single vast intelligence, and that this intelligence causes certain universal symbols to appear in individual minds. The idea is similar to Carl Jung's concept of the collective unconscious.
The poem includes several well known phrases, such as "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold." Chinua Achebe titled his most famous novel Things Fall Apart, prefacing the book with the poem's first four lines. Achebe's novel adheres to Yeats' theme by evincing the sudden collapse of African societies in the age of European colonialism. The second volume of Harry Turtledove's American Empire trilogy was entitled The Center Cannot Hold.
The poem's final phrase, "what rough beast, its hour come round at last, / Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?" is another of Yeats' best-known lines. Joan Didion's 1968 collection of essays, Slouching Towards Bethlehem, takes its title from the poem, as do Joni Mitchell's song of the same name on her album Night Ride Home, a semi-faithful rendition of Yeats' poem into song, the interactive fiction game Slouching Towards Bedlam, and an episode from season 4 of Angel.
Stephen King rather appropriately makes repeated references to the poem in his post-apocalyptic novel The Stand, in which a plague-ravaged world is divided into good and evil camps. At one point, the mysterious villain of the piece, Randall Flagg, vividly imagines himself as the "rough beast" being born in the chaos brought about by a superflu epidemic.
My answer to this question "will there be a third world war?" has always been.
Yes, but it does not occur on a battlefield. It occurs in the mind. So instead of landscape it is mindscape.
We are already in WWIII and have been for a while. I am sure everyone has noticed. Obviously the term is relative, many facets, and different degrees, levels of escalation.
I couldn't tell you even who is on what side because the divisions are not only geographical boundaries. It could be viewed as an economic war, and or the ego resistance to spirit as it transforms the world. Love and fear, but a battle may go like this... someone says something disparging to you and you simply respond with light. The latter can be very hard.
It could be China threatening to do trade in Euro's, like Saddam did with oil. Then it can be another group that decides to switch from fossil fuels to hydrogen, better known as the sun and water.
Then there are the belief systems and religions.
All what is physical events manifest from the mind. As you can see the physical conflict with actual deaths is occuring.
So WWIII would really be a major shift in consciouness.
DK: This one is actually my favorite line. Ultimately the Good will take over the Evil, and Truth will surface...but we're living in very rough times, the World is undergoing a drastic change....perhaps thru' massive destruction, is the way towards that Shift. Nature's cycles will rule the course.
question is :
In the big scheme of things how do we know what is good and what is evil ???
mirrors that ultimately we need to outgrow ...
towards the alchemical view that knows ...
everything serves the power of the spirit ...
how do we know compassion if we do not experience lack of compassion???
how do we know goodness if we are not able to embrace its evil mirror???
the source of the most profound miracles I have come to know ...
the world is in conflict ...
between the corruption of the material and the spiritual values of the soul ...
to realize nothing is external ...
but there are values we need to reclaim ...
necessary to rise ...
as a sword ...
that knows ...
the enemy is inside ...
Dear DK,
"the danger of annihilation" is only an illusion, and so are all other "dangers". "Good" can never triumph over "evil", as none of them exists. Look around in your life, really look, and you'll surely see the perfect order, the perfect synchronization of every detail, the absolute perfection of everything in this universe.
The battle between good and evil is a nightmare dreamed by the collective mind, all we need is to wake up from it. The purpose of being as good as we can, as generous, humble, loving and selfless, is to finally realize that there is nothing that is not good. There is no failure, and has never been. We are all in the process of realizing this, and during this process we need to cross some terribly scary "places". But the fear and the bleeding hearts are as much a dream as the darkness and danger.
The more we see the truth, the less we can fight. In reality, there IS no battle. No suffering and no death. There is only THIS, in the process of becoming aware of itself.
what a beautiful and true peace of writing, aurora!
Dear Aurora,
You #7 is the key to bliss. The ones with eyes shall see.
Cheers!
Navin
Typo correction: "your" #7.
Dear DK,
Your article is timely and thought provoking .
I would suggest to start a constructive dialogue on " Divine unity of existence and unity in diversity". Here religious heads of all religions may be invited to quote from their respective scriptures the messages from prophets and messangers of God, on mutual love, tolerance,and respect, after all the mankind has been and is searching for God/the Creator of this world and beyond.
I hope this will drive home one common point that though paths or religions may be different in names and the ways of prayer, but the purpose is the same for every member of the society. Why are then the disputes if all are sons or daughters of the same father and have equal rights in sharing His creation ? For what are wars being fought ?
Is there some thing called DEVIL or Satan on loose, and is out to destroy this creation by sowing seeds of hatred among brothers and sisters ? Are those in power being manipulated to fall in his trap ?
This requires a serious thought . It is high time those who are in religious command to come forward and cooperate jointly against this DEVIL.
Aurora: Something like Harb said: A piece of True writing about the unwritten Truth of Peace--the Peace that passeth understanding (at least, our individual/collective ego's understanding!).
Will drop you an e-mail soon, when it's time to "listen in," if you are still up for it. Dave
AVM: Wonderful comments--I understand the term "Devil" to mean deified-evil; or worshipping the energy-veil, a foggy misty but powerful illusionary perceptual force between the dimensions of being incarnate, and discarnate; with Satan having the same sense of superstitious origin from the Saturnic forces--or Saturn, something of a karmic influence, so to speak, as it stands as the planet of discipline and limitation.
Just some thoughts to add to yours, thanks--Dave
If we can never understand the Nature of God
how are we to comprehend the origins of evil?
David, I believe this author had some insight
on this very topic. Purported to be the best
representation available on this subject, A. Machen
has a book of short stories concerning the
undescribable. With Halloween closing in...
I highly recommend ordering this at your library.
"Tales of Horror and the Supernatural" brings
out the odd from historic times and questions
the possibility of mass hypnotism, Druids, Elves, etc.
Without naming or describing exactly these evil forces,
Machen spins some tales that will make your skin crawl!
No blood and guts here, no gory pictures, vampires
or werewolves, just darkness and substantial ooze.
Written in 1949, look for the 1964 edition.
Be scared folks, it can get very interesting.
Keith: The aberrations of evil, as they are seemingly manifested through the human mind, and into this world, do indeed reflect just how powerful are our minds--"for good, or for evil"--as Shakespeare said then, "Nothing is good or evil lest the mind of man makes it so!"
The power of hate is the energy of love turned back on itself; it is, however, still the energy of love, no matter how bent and twisted the lens of our minds distorts it's true purpose.
It is through the dual experiences of good and evil, in a school of duality, that indeed we learn firsthand, through freewill, just how powerful and unlimited are our true gifts--and once mastered here, maybe then we are capable of being responsible for ever-greater paradigms of creation--it is also strange to consider that we hold our Creator-ess to be unknowable.
Is it possible, however, that we were created as extensions of God, His/Her Children, exactly for the purpose that He/She could then Know Itself, and with us as the very vehicles for that "Dream of Self-Awareness?!"
As has been said then: To Know God, Know Thy Self?!
As Jesus also said, "Know ye are Gods!"
If not us, then to whom were these admonitions given for? Dave
Dear Harb, Navin and David,
there is beauty in truth, isn't it? It doesn't happen all at once, but we all grow more and more in our capacity to perceive it, until there is beauty and sanctity not only in the words of an enlightened master, but even in the insults of a drunkard or the assault of an enemy. All of us, everything we see - it is all the same perfection, knowing itself more or less. Evil naturally dissolves in this intelligence and unbounded love that we all are.
David, glad to go to a David Stewart - Deepak Chopra concert at Intentblog with you :D :) Would be lovely if Patzy would like to join!
....and Keith: Isn't it a little absurb for rational adults to believe in such things as Druids, Elves, Faeries, Spirits & Souls, etc. etc.--but the notion of "mass hypnosis," now that's absolutely preposterous my friend!
Why, the next thing you know, you'll have us hypnotized into believing Hitler mermerized the German people with Aryan supremecy as being ordained by Divine Providence; or...or....that a war in Iraq was really for our greater well-being and security; ....or....or...that King George actually won two elections "fair-and-square!"
Ridiculous, my friend--now use your Harry Potter-wand, and say "Ridikkulus!" (spelling and pronunciation isn't as critical as the intention for unveiling mass hypnosis spells)--Dave
until there is beauty and sanctity not only in the words of an enlightened master, but even in the insults of a drunkard or the assault of an enemy.
16. Posted by Aurora Carlson
So beautiful and sanctimonious?! I'm Pondering.
Dear DK,
I'd like to express my thoughts with the following inspired words by Maya Angelou:
Have enough courage to trust Love
one more time.
And always
one more time.
Dear Fresportra,
At times poems can shake us out of our complacency. And that is good.
Love to all,
Donatella
Dear Donatella: People write so many books about Love, read so many books about Love. Have you wondered why the world is still scarce in that? Trust Love? Love is always Beautiful!! Trust the other person, it should be. When one becomes fearless inside, then it becomes that much more easier to trust the other person. Trust is the base for love. No trust=No love. Yeah, poems can really shake one out of Complacency, that's one of the beauties..no wonder some Intense people resort to Poems to convey their messages. It's good you're able to appreciate Fresportra's poems and see something valuable in it.
God bless!
Hi Aurora,
We can be aware of a deeper reality and still see that there is suffering here. Look at those pictures Shekar posted. Do you not see suffering?
On one level it doesn't matter what we do in this life, whether or not we destroy each other and our planet. And yet, it does matter. Each of us in our own way has an opportunity to make new choices, choices that help to create a better world. Each of us, and the actions we take, do matter.
Love, Kristin
Dear Sachin,
Thanks for your thoughts.
Love,
Donatella
“At times poems can shake us out of our complacency. And that is good.” ~ Donatella
All great thinkers end up in the realm of poetry when they believe they have no other outlet to channel their anguish.
The figure a poem makes. It begins in delight and ends in wisdom. The figure is the same as for love. No one can really hold that the ecstasy should be static and stand still in one place. It begins in delight. It inclines to the impulse, it assumes direction with the first line laid down, it runs the course of lucky events, and ends in a clarification of life-not necessarily a great clarification . . . but in a momentary stay against confusion.
--Robert Frost
So despite the power sapping forces that abound, poetry can at least act as a source of inspiration that we are not alone in the void, that there have been others before us too…
“Words can be very powerful as we know...
They must be used to create peace, not to create more hatred.” ~ Donatella
It is a fact that humans live in a symbolic environment. We live our lives in stories, songs, and words. As we wake up in the morning we tell ourselves who we are and what our world is like. As we go to bed at night we tell ourselves the same stories.
But speech may also be an evil activity. Man is a speaking animal. The abuse of speech is an evil activity. The story of our beginnings of our existence is the birth of meaning out of the meaninglessness -- the Great void -- through the primordial sound or “in the beginning was the word”
Without sincere speech, humanity is without means to protect itself and other life against the ever widening threats.
When “speech” is abused as with propaganda, political agendas, consumerism, hypocrisy, and the various other obstacles to our reason, clarity and understanding, it results in the destruction of meaning. It reduces our capacity to see the signs of decay and our capacity to resist it. This is when speech is reduced to mere words and is emptied of meaning and its transcendental purpose. Nihilism begins with the destruction of meaning. It leaves the society without “means”. Nihilism is not just the fact that all values devalue themselves. Nihilism is loss of meaning, consequently loss of purpose and therefore of destiny. It is the end of History.
"The three most significant political developments of the twentieth century were the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy" -- Alex Carey.
The struggle between order and Chaos, Life and Death, the Word and the Silence, is the struggle of creative speech with mere noise. It is the struggle between the symbolic and the dark-nature of man's character which is "the knowledge of Good and Evil". Modern science in the field of psychology didn’t find anything new but it rediscovered the mythic components of man's nature known from the beginning, mentioned in ancient scriptures as "Good" and "Evil".
Good and Evil can be easily defined. The good is creation and creativity -- is order. Evil is nihilism and all the obstacles and resistance to existence, creation, and life as with decay, death of birth, decadence, or destruction. The symbolic power in human beings is the creative and integrating power that aims for oneness and wholeness. That which negates and subverts this process --which disintegrates and fragments -- is the dark nature. "God is the power that makes the men speak", to unify, to reconcile or harmonize, and to make whole.
The dark-nature in human beings, on the other hand, is the destructive will. Annihilation is the active form of nihilism. Good and Evil respectively, correspond to our Yes or No to existence, to creation and the “negation of creation”, order and Chaos, Peace and War, or more precisely, creation and nihilism.
Modern man no longer believes in any certainty of existence on the strength of abstract reasoning. Yet he is dedicated, heart and soul, to man’s great fight against the decay of creation. He knows that his whole life will have to be an answer to the call; “How wilt thou escape this abyss of nothingness?”
~ Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy, Out of Revolution: Autobiography of Western Man
I am again emerged into the light of day, but I have traveled through Perils & Darkness not unlike a champion. I have conquered, and shall go on conquering. Nothing can withstand the fury of my course among the stars of God & in the abysses of the accuser. ~William Blake
We face an overwhelming assault by many crises today that seem to have no meaningful connection to each other on the periphery. At the root, there is only one crisis of cultural nihilism, in its various guises; propaganda, consumerism, war,” the death of birth", fundamentalism, reductionism in science, decadence, narcissism, hypocrisy, and insincerity.
Nihilism, as Nietzsche, Yeats, and Cohen have attested in their own way, is a Spiritual Disorder; a disease of meaning, the triumph of the lie, the end of history. (All meaning is means and a bridge to a future). Self indulgent consumerism is evidence to how we have perversely aligned ourselves with the Evil. We now consume the wealth and values of the future generations far in advance, without regard for their requirements, purposes, or freedoms. Paul Hawkins says this as "the death of birth" in his book “The Ecology of Commerce”. We deprive the future generations of the “means”.
Vital, creative and generative speech aims to cultivate peace, faith, respect, and harmony, all of which are lacking today. In this respect DK Matai’s sincere effort to communicate and encourage a dialogue is an inspiration and an example of hope for the ultimate triumph of Good over Evil.
Hello Kristin,
There is no "here" different than the deeper reality. We don’t need to hold on to the misconception that this is a world of suffering, inequity, death and chaos, where we can sometimes glimpse a spiritual truth which is remote and useless. If there is a spiritual truth of unconditional bliss, it must be true always, not just sometimes.
I think you will agree with me that people have always fought to end suffering of all kinds, both for themselves and for others. There has been charity work in all ages, and I don’t know if the suffering has become less. The solution must be on another level than the problem.
Fighting evil will never abolish it. To find the solution to the suffering we perceive, we must transcend the mind that is conditioned to create it. The moment we wake up and realize that suffering is a movie projected by our minds, the madness stops, and the peace and bliss that is natural for all of existence becomes our home. It is only then that we can create a world of peace, simply because perception is creation.
There are different stages in this healing process of our mind. To shake off inertia, we have to act, and act with passion, selflessness and dedication. There is a place for militant positive action in every person’s healing journey. But to find the ultimate peace, we need to let go of the belief in an outward world which is separate from the inner one and which has to be changed for bliss to exist, and we have to stop considering spirit to be a wishful fantasy. At some point, we either choose to go on dreaming, or we choose reality.
Dear Donatella: Aren't they Spirutual thoughts which you liked? Spirutual are mutual thoughts, but they are not Casual, they are SpiRUtual:)
Fresportra on his best day can be Awesome! Also, I always have a soft corner for people who are into deep spirutuality, I mean spirituality.
Love is a Beautiful thing Donatella. those who miss on this in a lifetime are illdestined in my view. It's something which is not learnt thru' books, it is learnt thru' inspection and finetuning of the heart all the time! A farmer can be a 100 times better lover than a Pundit studying volumes of books.
Dear Fresportra,
Thank you for the wonderful and far-reaching post, #23 -- as well as your kind attention to my words.
As a small token of gratitude I offer 2 quotes by philosopher Hans-Georg Gadamer
'Nothing exists except through language'.
'The more language is a living operation, the less we are aware of it. Thus it follows from the self-forgetfulness of language that its real being consists in what is said in it.'
Love,
Donatella
Dear Whiteink,
Very good considerations on love and life.
With appreciation,
Donatella
Dear DK,
If one person is able to achieve peace of mind, and happiness in form, than it is possible for all.
So it becomes the awakening of where One is willing to be transformed.
Thank you for sharing insights to point the way.
With love,
~ Kate
I like you very much Donatella when you're in that gratitude and appreciative mode. How about my Sharpness?? What do you think? It's my forte. It was actually in one of your posts where u mentioned about Osho which said "How we get lost in the jungle of words and philosophy?" Human minds need constant monitoring, hence that alertness is vital to stay focussed on the rt tracks. Have you read Gita the book not our Geeta here(though she is good)? The central message, other than the duty and be not attached to the results is what DK the good man has brought out here Good over the Evil. How Arjun has to fight with his own dear ones for the sake of dharma and thereby Good triumphing over the evil. It's a wonderful epic which also gives the code of life for different roles which we have to play in our life in different situations.
Peace,
Whiteink!
An example where Evil triumphs over Good; An egotistic person with an obsessive compulsive bent (sic) who makes perpetual demands is never detached from his ego. He overestimates the abilities of his mental acuity and his powers to discrete. He is attached to his ignorant beliefs to live forever in his blessed stupor (unknowing to him). He talks about love but also practices hate. He means good but does evil. He has debonair looks but lo street-thug deeds. He is a victim of his diabolic self. The devil himself!
Spirutual....chill have a drink!!
Dear AJ: You're right on one thing, about Hatred. For howmuchever valid reason, it is not a desirable trait in the long run. Even if it is someone like you, one shouldn't. LOL! Your assumptions about me generally are funny to read. Did you do Phd in Maligning? You're Extremely talented!!!
May God bless you with lot of softeness, gentleness, compassion!!!
fresportra, that is a brilliant comment.
There are rules hidded in Nature. Unknow by the wise-men. Unbeatable evils run toward. Anything, expressed extremely, find the Hands of destruction.
Life is already winner and against nobody. At anytime we can stop, to accept the transformation by the Precious. If you see the Precious kill him, it's not that.
Dear Fresporta, thank you for the poems.
Dear Richard, well said. You may find this to be of interest:
mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/reports/speeches/240505.pdf
Dear Whiteink, thank you for your thoughts.
Dear Baba, the last lines are particularly memorable.
Dear Aurora, you are right and the ultimate triumph of good over evil is to recognise that it is all universal consciousness connected and in Divine Will. This is what His Holiness has really said.
Dear Harb and Navin, yes!
Dear AVM, Dr Deepak Chopra is best able to respond to the possibility you outline.
Dear Dave, agreed!
Dear Donatella, thank you for that.
Dear Kristin, well said.
Dear Fresporta, we all get by with a little bit of help from our friends!
Dear Aurora, there is only one reality but there are many planes or layers within it, most are not visible to the naked eye or human physical sensations.
Dear Whiteink, very true!
Dear Donatella, and then there is a world in which there is no language and just vibrations of light and sound!
Dear Kate, I have no insights to share. The only insights are those of the Perfect Spiritual Masters who have done work and efforts to be able to say what they do! What do I know? Zilch, Nada, Zero come to mind!
Dear Whiteink, with deep respect I have not brought out anything. The excellent company we keep at IntentBlog inspires me to remember the words of the Great Spiritual Masters, who are a manifestation of love and forgiveness.
Dear AJ, some truth in your words and then there is more...
Dear Jean-Francois, please elaborate.
Thank you all and with respect, if there have been errors or omissions on my part, please forgive me.
I remain, yours ever
with love and well wishes
DK
DK Matai
The Philanthropia, ATCA, mi2g.net
#34. Jean-Francois has a clue of that which I spoke of.
If there is a battle between forces
in a dueling dual quick-draw,
might it not be best to know just
what your opponent has in his holster?
Or better yet...how good is his aim based on his
reputation for being sly and thrifty?
Knowing the extent of the power within your adversary
is necessary if you choose to do battle.
Soooo...do we wish to say that the Left hand of God
is weaker and less efficient than the Right?
Or is the Left hand sneaky and wise enough to
get away with murder unbeknowest to the Right?
.
If you let the power of the 'good' in...
and you have been hypnotised into believing in a dual reality,
you will undoubtably experience the Clash of the Titans!
If it is All One...
to God be the Blame and the Glory forever. Amen!
Or...
do your research, read Machen's stories and
come thou to your own conclusions. Fairy Tales?
"It's only make-believe if you can make them believe it!" Me2
Otherwise...it must be True!
Dear Dk
Thank you for introducing me to His Holiness Master Kirpal. I appreciated his analogies.
Dear Aurora,
Your comments strike a forgotten, but very familiar note that resonates at the very core of my being.
Thank you very much for the healing, harmonious sounds your voice always carries, here at IB.
Love and Respect,
Stan
Keith: As far as make-believe: Whatsoever a man can conceive of, so can it be! Such is the true power of our minds--both in the Here, and the Here-After.
Although I was certainly teasing you about elves, faeries, and the Druids who were so aware of the many Kingdoms of Nature, as well as the ethereal forces behind their animating life force.....
......well, there's a very good documentary-style entertainment film that has been developed, based on the experiences and photos taken by two girls in Ireland, I believe--of these living entities!
So impactful were the convincing evidence of what these girls "saw," and photographed (in 1946, I believe--am doing this from memory), that it drew the attention, and subsequent verification, of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and his British Psychical Research foundation.
In Iceland, it is taken for granted that nature spirits are indeed quite real; to the point where even their municipal and political peoples will alter the course of their building projects in order not to interfer with the "habitats" that are consensually recognized to be the homes and enviroments of these "wee folk!"
As far as the Druids.....well, you know the course I follow on the matter--"The Nine Faces of Christ!" Dave
Dear DK,
you are right, this is what Master Kirpal is saying, and I know that to be heard, you have to connect to the reality of the listener. Therefore his references to danger, annihilation, compassion seen as bleeding hearts and the need for salvation.
If our glances would meet for a second, what I'd like to say is "yes, there are many layers to Maya".
Dear Stan,
May you relax and dissolve in the resonance of your core sound :)
Dear Keith, my Great Spiritual Master once said, there are only two ultimate weapons we have regardless of who we face. To forgive them or seek forgiveness. Where there is greed, there is sin. Where there is anger, there is time. Where there is forgiveness, He himself is manifest!
Dear Stan, it is all in the will of the Universal Consciousness and thank you for your kind thoughts.
Kära Aurora, tacka dig och älska!
Please forgive me for any errors or omissions on my part.
With love and warm wishes
DK
DK Matai
The Philanthropia, ATCA, mi2g.net
Tack, DK, du är mycket älskvärd! (Thank you, DK, you're so lovable/kind!)
Mio caro DK,
Quante lingue parli? E' straordinario vedere come rispondi a tutti nella loro lingua. Che bello.
Con affetto,
Donatella
Kära Aurora,
Where did you learn Italian? What you wrote was so good.
Love,
Donatella
Kära Aurora, dig för!
Mia cara Donatella, Non parlo bene alcuna lingua compreso le miei proprie! Con amore
All good wishes to all
DK
Dear Donatella, I don't speak Italian, but I love it :) I understand it well, as it is very similar to Romanian, my mother tongue.
Hi Aurora,
A poem for you:
"Every Being is my Sibling"
Alone?
How could I ever be alone?
Every being is my sibling
Even little insects are fond of me –
Though sometimes we do fight
And their bite makes me howl!
Still, it’s only in play
After all, we are family
Both the eagle and its prey are my brothers
And even the flowers dance and sing hello to me
When we meet after having been apart for so long
Anyone can see –
This entire world blooms when I remember
I am not separate from it
And even God and I are one…
Love, Kristin
ps. Have a beautiful day. :)
Dear DK: This has been one of my fav topics as said earlier. Of course, what I meant and always mean about you is...you bring in wonderful content. Though sometimes it gets heavy. €Our both epics Mahabharat and Ramayan have this central message of your topic. I've grown up on this philosophy and in my heart I've always believed this is how it will be, even though this is kalyug. Our movies too sometime have this theme.
"Sachayi ka raasta hotha hai Katin, kahin kaante hothe hai, lekin himath rakhoge sach mein vishwas rakhoge tho anth mein Jeeth tumari hee hogi"
That song ek din bik jahega is my fav song. Most of mukesh's touch ur heart!
Satyamevjayate!
Kristin, thank you!!! Is it time to play again? hope our host doesn't mind :)
Here is my version of the one song, Kristin :)
Unloved?
How could I ever be unloved?
When every being is my lover
And every shining light delights me
Until I frantically lose my shape and mind!
Like lover’s play the tiger hunts with passion
And antelopes surrender in a breathless dance
And pearls of sweat when climbing highest mountains
Water the blooming future of some arid stance
The world...
adorns itself with sensual wholeness
Whenever I remember you as I
And every day of being in the essence
Is what I breathe and what I am and why I fly.
Dear Whiteink, well said!
Dear Kristin and dear Aurora, thank you for your welcome thoughts and poetic tidings!
Warm well wishes
DK
DK Matai
The Philanthropia, ATCA, mi2g.net
Thank you, Aurora. :)
Love, Kristin
PERHAPS LOVE (John Denver)
Perhaps love is like a resting place, a shelter from the storm
It exists to give you comfort, it is there to keep you warm
And in those times of trouble when you are most alone
The memory of love will bring you home.
Perhaps love is like a window, perhaps an open door
It invites you to come closer, it wants to show you more
And even if you lose yourself and don't know what to do
The memory of love will see you through.
Love to some is like a cloud, to some as strong as steel
For some a way of living, for some a way to feel
And some say love is holding on and some say letting go
And some say love is everything, and some say they don't know.
Perhaps love is like the ocean, full of conflict, full of pain
Like a fire when it's cold outside, thunder when it rains.
If I should live forever, and all my dreams come true
My memories of love will be of you.
Some say love is holding on and some say letting go
Some say love is everything and some say they don't know.
Perhaps love is like the mountains, full of conflict, full of change
Like a fire when it's cold outside, thunder when it rains.
If I should live forever, and all my dreams come true
My memories of love will be of you.
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Perhaps lov
Thank you, Aurora. :)
Love, Kristin
Dear Whiteink, well said!
Dear Kristin
Kristin, thank you!!! Is it time to play again?
Dear DK: This has been one of my fav topics as
Nice!