In celebration of the upcoming full moon

Full Circle

The moon is a funny thing.
It represents life in many ways.

Sometimes one does not see the full picture, amongst the clouds that get in the way.
The perfect circle is there, but hard to see.
If you don’t see it the first time, there is still another chance.

We begin this life in a full circle bonded by our mother’s womb.
We leave this world after the circle of life plays it course on to new beginnings, the other sides of ends.

Like the cycle of the moon, life’s ever changing light.
Beginnings are the other sides of ends, constant, throughout life and thereon.

The moon and it’s beauty, lighting up the sky making one pay attention, stopping, slowing down and engaging.

The moon represents the oneness in our world, where everyone has the ability to see wherever one might be, standing still in time.

The clouds might be blocking the view but our minds see it clearly.
The corners of the earth, and a moon, reflecting on our souls with light, love, beauty and the full circle
Of life.

joanie

Joanie, A wonderful ode to the cycle of life and our dance with the moon!

Yes and the moon is one thing we can all share and watch together without any technology at all.

"There is a candle in your heart,
Ready to be kindled;
There is void in your soul,
Ready to be filled;
You feel it, don't you?

You feel the separation
from the Beloved.
Invite Him to fill you up,
Embrace the fire.

Remind those who tell you otherwise that
Love comes to you of its own accord;
and the yearning for it
cannot be learned in any school." - Rumi

I loved thet Rumi poem...Such a wise man is was.

Joanie

Gandhi speaketh:

I think it is wrong to expect certainties in this world, where all else but God that is Truth is an uncertainty. All that appears and happens about and around is uncertain, transient. But there is a Supreme Being hidden therein as a Certainty, and one would be blessed if one could catch a glimpse of that certainty and hitch one's wagon to it. The quest for that Truth is the summum bonum of life.

In the march towards Truth, anger selfishness, hatred, etc., naturally give way, for otherwise Truth would be impossible to attain. A man who is swayed by passions may have good enough intentions, may be truthful in word, but he will never find the Truth. A successful search for Truth means complete deliverance from the dual throng such as of love and hate, happiness and misery.
http://[delinker]www.mkgandhi.org/truth/index.htm

Quote of the day :)

here is a pic of last month's orange circle in the sky~

Dear IBRH, Good morning. We miss your humor and playfulness:-)

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO SAVE A PARK??
One square block of undeveloped property owned by the school district is going up for bid to a big developer who builds cookie cutter homes. It's been a refuge in the middle of a concrete jungle and now we might loose that too. So sad because it's a habitat for rare birds, butterflies and immensely beautiful trees. Our neighborhood civic center is busy trying to raise a whopping 3 million dollars!! I have all the faith in the world that the universe will help us. Your best thoughts will be appreciated. Here is the link - http://www.savethispark.org/

Okay, I'll try again to post the pic!

Dear June

I forgot to tell you, from Woh Lamhe, I love So Jaaon Main so much! Shreya Goshal is one of my favorite singers.

love, Heath

Dear geetajayarama,

So far as my understanding is that we are free to act in this life to sow the seeds of karmas to be reaped in our next life. We do not have any control over our prarabdha karmas or our destiny.
It is written before birth of body to undergo 6 things namely , wealth & poverty,health & sickness,happiness & sadness. Our free will can not over rule these 6 predestined things of life.
If one is deprived of best medical facility due to cost or location or otherwise then despite having will to survive an individual may not be able to have it and therefore has to suffer per his destiny. On the other hand if one is born in well developed society and land where all facilities are free , one may be able to suffer less , this again is due to his better destiny.
My question was in case one is in developed country and perhaps destined to suffer say with cancer but by luck gets diagnosed well in time and is cured. Does the competent doctor intervene and alter one's destiny (result of past karmas)?

278. Posted by avm on October 5, 2006 02:41 AM

avm, we all have to suffer our Prarabha Karma. Even great sages like, Ramana Maharshi, and Shri Ramakrishna Paramahansa had to suffer illnesses. If I am destined to suffer from cancer and die from it nothing can save me. Something will go wrong and the result will be death. If on the other hand if I am supposed to suffer from cancer, but not die from it the physician will be able to help me.

Swamiji, Vidyadishananda Giri, clearly states, who we are to meet, or what we are to meet in life is predestined. But how we are to meet is free will. This may apply to any situation. It applies to our health.

The way I understand this is like this. Before we come to Earth we write what we will take on as suffering in our blue print. This could be part of Sanchita Karma. Or it could be something we want to suffer so that we can experience for God.

avm, as far as happiness and sadness goes I have understood it to be the result of our attitude. The situation is outside of us. But whether we are happy or sad is with in us.

Let me give you an example. A woman has an unhappy marriage. She can either be miserable because she is not nurtured, and she compares herself with happy couples. Or she can think of this as a learning experience and enjoy her free time seeking spirituality. or she can divorce her present husband and look for another spouse.

So a yogi, or a person who is wise does not get bothered by situations, and finds equanimity in all situations.

avm, you are a seeker, I am pleased to meet you. I may not be completely clear. I am still working on being clear. Namaskar.

Dear friends, here is my speech for tonight at the Interfaith Gathering, to STOP the HATE and START the HEALING. It is to last only 4 minutes!! There are many speakers from all religions and faiths. I am representing Hinduism.

Forgiveness is a great virtue. It is associated with, tolerance, respect, kindness, and peace.

In the most holy book of Hindus, Bhagavadgita, Shri Krishna says the following. Serenity, self restraint, austerity, purity, forgiveness, uprightness, knowledge, realization, belief in a hereafter, are characters of a Brahmana. He also says, vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, purity, absence of hatred, absence of pride, these belong to one born for a divine state.

A Brahmana(although this literally means one who belongs to the Brahmin caste, here it also means one who has understood Brahman) is one who has qualities conducive to spiritual life. The spiritual man is fixed in the feeling that he is The Higher Self. Therefore he does not think of retaliation, or resistance. Calm forgiveness is his way. He knows and comprehends that we are all parts of ONE DIVINITY. I, we, you, he, she, they are all ONE. At the level of soul we are all Parts of GOD. So how can one wish harm to another?? I will be harming myself if I harm another.

Forgiveness, as a quality is an ornament of a hero.

In the great epic, Mahabharata, it is written,”one should forgive any injury. It also says, forgiveness is holiness. By forgiveness universe is held together. Forgiveness is the might of the mighty, forgiveness is sacrifice, forgiveness is quiet of mind. Forgiveness and gentleness are the qualities of the self possessed. They represent eternal virtue. Nonviolence is the outgrowth of the law of forgiveness and love.”

Tirukkural is an ancient Tamil scripture. In verse 158 it says,”encouraged by a pride of wealth if a person commits innumerable injury to you, you aught to conquer him by your forgiveness.”
Tirukkural says in verse 159,” a person though living a householders life, if he maintains his patience while being insulted by fools and forgives them for their evil conduct, would be considered greater than the noble ascetics who have renounced all”

We rever saints, and sages. But in these verses the sage writes that a householder, a family man who is able to practice forgiveness is greater than a saint or a sage..

I would love your critique.

By the way, I heard from Swear today. She is well, and says hello to all of you. Needless to say I was ecstatic to hear from her after 75 + days of not knowing what happened to her. Right now I am on cloud nine because I love my cyber niece.

Dear God bless my friends.

Dear Harb,

Have you seen the movement of Gupta Synthetics? Doubled in a month and scaling new heights now. You sold too early. Another reco of mine Torrent Power SEC also moved from 350 to 551 in the same period. Watch out for Suraj Diamonds now. I'm advising it to all my clients. It is a great investment pick. :) Now is the time to make money in smaller value stocks rather than big index stocks. Good luck.

Dear Geeta,

Quoting you: "Swamiji, Vidyadishananda Giri, clearly states, who we are to meet, or what we are to meet in life is predestined. But how we are to meet is free will."

I agree with you and your Swamiji. It's true.
You have any idea where Swear Am Not Spiritual is? I haven't seen her at IB for a very long time now.

Cheers!
Navin

Dear Geeta,

Now this is amazing! I might have read your thoughts about Swear as we were both writing at the same time and I hadn't read your #13 before posting my #14. The other day I guessed that Richard was wearing a white robe!

I must be psychic. LOL. Say hi to Swear from me.

Cheers!
Navin

Geeta: It was quite a good one. If suffering is there. No matter where you run, what you do it will chase you because it is destined. You can make different choices, but it will do its work and go. Karmic debt. One can never never escape from the Universe. It's good to know you don't have an egoistic outlook towards karma and its nature. It's a very interesting subject.

Heather: Shreya is a good singer. Other songs too are good, more if one watches the movie. Self destructive emotion in the woman has always fascinated me, which is a part of the movie. I gave a call to ibrh, maybe he's busy:)

Dear Geeta, I think right now, a perfect example of complete forgiveness; is shown in the strength and courage of the Amish families of the five little girls murdered, and five more in critical conditions from the Amish school massacre.... are practicing total forgiveness. I don't think I could be so forgiving of my child's killer; and these families have my utmost respect and admiration for the strength of their belief!

Hello's to Swear... is she returning soon to IB?

Dear Geeta,
I have just have a moment to write.
Good luck tonight. I wish I could be there to hear your voice. I can imagine it, so lovely.
~ Kate

hi to Swear - come back soon!

Hey Keith,
I am thinking about you, and miss you!

~ Kate

hello to all the dear ones at IB
my love to you

Instead of talking about abstract concepts like God and such could we talk about something important?

What do you think are the root causes for some of the killings that have taken place in American schools?

How do you think we can stop this menace from spreading?

regards

You are the one, Geeta~
~~~~~~~~~
STOP THE HATE
sounds GREAT
~~~~~~~~~~~~
START THE HEALING
looks APPEALING~
~~~~~~~~~~
catch Geeta words and
carry them within you~~~~~~~~

Dear Waylay, A lot of troubles happen because of the concept of God in this world. When the suffering becomes unbearable, the human mind blames the God and its creation. Also, because of the past trauma which has not been healed, it's perpetuated on others for relief. It's quite a common thing of the human mind's dynamics. (cheptava naku iroz chezindi pani neede na, na vaip unvao ledo adhi telyadu nak). So, such things are perpetual in nature. Do you believe in God? What is your concept of God, if there is. Like to hear your thoughts and answers.

Thx!

So, you agree with me waylay that the distorted beliefs of God can lead to such acts. You've a good understanding of all this. Suffering and adversity can really lead to drastic acts. I heard this song on raaga.com and liked it:

Nuv em chpavu ardam kaledu
manchiga chepthe autundi
neeku na katha aame gurunchi
telyadu kada nenu niko mithrudu
ankhunanu auna kada telyadu
em unte chepya kaka pothe
disc lo matladkovachu

I hope you're into songs and you may like this.

Waylay, there are lot of wonderful song sites nowadays. raaga is good indianmelody.com is also good. Lot of old songs. Altogether different times now from when we grew up listening to music. A small tape recorder with a cassette was big those days. I recently say one malayalam movie starring who else? shakeela. Emi beauty ra.(arey nuve sayam cheyal ra nanu, nuvu chesau mundu). Story of the movie is difficult to narrate, I may someother time. You do know the difference between fake and genuine, that is the crux.

Dear Friends,

It is a bit overwhelming for me to read so many good wishes to my birthday on 27th september, here on intent blog.

I have been on a holiday for a fortnight in a nice environment in the middle of Germany with a lot of woods where you can walk for miles. The weather has been very friendly so my husband, our little cairn terrier and I have taken advantage of that :)

There was an Internet Cafe but through the provider there i could not get access to Intentblog, only to my email and a few websites.

So i want to apologize for not reacting sooner to all those lovely messages, birthday cards and songs.

I had a nice quiet birthday in the middle of nature and enjoyed a great dinner together with my husband in a lovely restaurant with a view on the lake i walked around every day.

Dearest North,
Hello dear lady of the birthday promotion team :)
As usual you surpassed yourself with that great birthday card you made for me on your blog. Thanks! The friends figurines welcomed me when i came home today. It is such a sweet reminder of our friendship. Keep it up girl, tomorrow, be thinking of you.

Dear Kate,
Thank you for all the good wishes here on Intent and for your email with the hilarious backwards song, me am getting younger everyday lol. It is you and all those wonderful people i have met here that forever keep me young and radiant :). Am very grateful for that.

Dear Harb,
That was a nice remark of you and i know you in the same way :) Thanks a lot!

Hi there dear Simon! WOW what a wonderful birthday wish.... am overwhelmed reading it all and listening to that great song! xxx to you :).

Lieve Marek,
Dank je wel voor deze leuke felicitatie. Heerlijk zoiets hier te lezen in m´n eigen taaltje :). Liefs en het allerbeste voor jou.

Dear Heather,
Thanks for your nice wishes. Hope you have fully recovered now from the frightening experience with the bus. Wish you all the best :).

Dear Navin,
Thank you for the wishes and the mentioning of the celebrities i share my birthday with. I share my year of birth (1945) with a lot of celebrities too such as Bob Marley, Eric Clapton, Mia Farrow, Bette Midler, Tom Selleck, Rod Stuart and many more lol. It is a good feeling to be in such a great company.
Good luck to you, Superstar :)

Dear Ron,
Thank you too for the birthday wish :).
Hope Oxana and her friends had a great day at the amusement park.
Had such a day not so long ago with my (first) grandson. Reliving my youth again! I did and still do love amusement parks.

Dear Donatella, Geeta and Keith,
Thank you too for your good wishes. With all those congratulations i am celebrating my birthday all over again and i really feel so grateful :).

Fourteen days i had no access to Intentblog and i have missed you all a lot, slowly catching up with all the threads i have missed...

With much love to all,
Mieke

Let us have a lively debate within ourselves and enjoy the beauty of this nature in all its glory.

Thanks Waylay. Stories can be inspiring. In times of doubt, faith is something which works wonders actually. This is why lot of human beings are into the track of faith. One has to enter the psyche to understand all this, isn't it? You're so good at it. I was talking about karma earlier here. What one is destined, has to go thru' it. I'm a believer of freewill as well as destiny. There's a saying you must have heard "All that glitters is not gold" and Beauty is skin deep. What appeared to me gold recently when I went to buy in a goldshop turned out after a few wks to be a nakli one. I was shocked how it was losing all the color, and then showing all dark and jaded color.

I tried to talk it out with the shopkeeper, why it was fake and I got deceived. He was just defending saying it's real, inspite of showing him how the colors superficially faded. Lost money, lost time, lost so much, shopkeeper instead of understanding me, went against me.

Karma (antaru denke, ikada vachindi aame time spend chesanu, paina keenda nunchi teskunanu guda, tarvatha supporting opposition wala ki, entha chepthe guda). Karmic debts, I had to clear, I was. When the Universe places high odds against you, it becomes very difficult. One has to use the freewill to the best extent, and even then no guarantee. Thanks a lot though for listening to my story.

"Wis. lawmaker wants teachers to carry guns"

And of course, we hear the worn out phrase in his language, "all options should be on the table."
http://[delinker]www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15142930/

My god people, what hath we become? Scary . . .

Peace

...a prayer of thanks for my daughter, Anjalee.

A night of recognising, among many years of long and hard work, toils, joys and moments of precious timeless connectedness. The journey is the "success"...and tonight it is part of that also, Graduation night form high school.

Om shanti,
Cinda

Dear Cinda, sharing with you your thanks for Anjalee, the celebration of thanksgiving; I too, share the honour of my son; and for Anjalee's graduation from high school tonight!! Congratulations Anjalee, you have begun a new journey, towards your dreams and aspirations! My son is home tomorrow for thanksgiving weekend; may it lift our hearts to it's highest power of joy, and severe the ties which can bind us to fear of the unknown, and for the courage and strength to walk with the peace of grace.

Love,
North

Dear Geeta,
I hope your speech went well.
Namaste.

Dear Mieke,
I am glad you are back!

Dear North,
Happy Thanksgiving. You must be thrilled to have your son back :)

Love,
Donatella

Dear Mieke, just saw your post up there!! Welcome back from your journey, and thanks for the postcard from there! So very glad you had a great birthday, and the friends in waiting, were there to greet you home. : ) Hello to the family, and a big Hug to the new grandson!

Won't be here much for a while, Lee is home an hour before I go under the knife tomorrow morning, second time in three weeks. Uggh! Will be nice to have my son home this time, but bad timing for some things too. Isn't that the way of it at time? But, he's spending 85% of his time with his gal, I was given the word on that! lol Ahhh, young love, first lovvvvve... I have two sisters, a brotherinlaw, and a nephew also enroute, by saturday they should all be here one by one. I have 2-3 camping on my floor, so this ought to be a kick of a weekend!! Unexpected relatives often pop through too, so it's an anticipated weekend for giving thanks for family! However, my heart weighs heavily on a few sides, and it's often difficult to detach from worldly events, but I DO try! lol

Love, and welcome back!
North

Dear Donatella, so very thrilled!! He'll be here in the morning, instead of saturday morning!! He already informed me, he's spending most of his time with his gal though, so it's a bit of a deep funk there.. but I'll suck-it-up, like the big gal I am, and just be happy to see him when I do! lol In the morning, and late at night, probably.

Thankyou for the thanksgiving blessing Donatella!! Part of me doesn't want to celebrate while at war abroad.. yet one cannot bring politics, to the table of family, and giving thanks for them---first! : )

Love,
North

"Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer’s"
http://[delinker]www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15145917/

O yeah! Yes! Yes! Yes!

That is what I am talkiing about!

Peace

Didn't I Tell You

Didn't I tell you
not to go to that place?
It is me, who is your intimate friend.
In this imaginary plain of non-existence,
I am your spring of eternal life.

Even if you lose yourself in wrath
for a hundred thousand years,
at the end you will discover,
it is me, who is the culmination of your dreams.

Didn't I tell you
not to be satisfied with the veil of this world?
I am the master illusionist,
it is me, who is the welcoming banner at the gate of your contentment.

Didn't I tell you?
I am an ocean, you are a fish;
do not go to the dry land,
it is me, who is your comforting body of water.

Didn't I tell you
not to fall in this trap like a blind bird?
I am your wings, I am the strength in your wings,
I am the wind keeping you in flight.

Didn't I tell you
that they will kidnap you from the path?
They will steal your warmth,
and take your devotion away.
I am your fire, I am your heartbeat,
I am the life in your breath.

Didn't I tell you?
They will accuse you of all the wrongdoings,
they will call you ugly names,
they will make you forget
it is me, who is the source of your happiness.

Didn't I tell you?
Wonder not, how your life will turn out,
how you will ever get your world in order,
it is me, who is your omnipresent creator.

If your are a guiding torch of the heart,
know the path to that house.
If you are a person of God, know this,
It is me, who is the chief of the village of your life.

-Rumi

love, heather

One Friend

Many clouds do race to hide Thee –
Of friends and wealth and fame –
And yet through mist of tears I see
Appear Thy Golden Name.
Each time my father, mother, friends
Do loudly claim they did me tend,
I wake from sleep to sweetly hear
That Thou alone didst help me here.


- Paramahansa Yogananda

It was very good Heather. From the real rumi?

You can dupe the world
But you cannot dupe yourself
For The conscience knows
What is the lie
What is the truth

NAVIN: Swear and I were talking for a while and we did have some nice things to say about you, and we knew you were listening in at your soul level, and hence you picked up on it, and I have no doubt about your psychic abilities. Thank you for being a friend and for being so positive. I will tell swear you said Hi.

Swamiji, Vidyadishananda Giri is being called the Vivekananda of this century, if you are interested in learning about him I can give you info. He will be in India if you wish to get his blessings. I'll find out his schedule for you.He is stopping in Mumbai. He will be in Calcutta end of December.

Love and God bless.

June, nice meeting you. Thank you for 16.

NORTH: I feel so sad for the Amish families. Thank you North for 17. Happy Thanksgiving. Love and God bless.

KATE: Dear Angel, it went off OK. It was in a park. Soon after I finished saying my words, it started raining. So most people left. We had a fairly large crowd. Thanks for 18.Love and God bless.

Donna Young: Thanks for #20. Love and God bless.

Cinda, congratulations to Anjalee. I am so happy for you. Love and God bless.

Donatella: I think I spoke clearly and slowly. I had fun doing it. Thanks for 35. Love and God bless.

Is being a psychic good or bad? Many people who call themselves psychics have this extraordinary power of seeing the intentions of people and can guess extremely well apart from the paranormal powers they claim to be possessing. If I get lucky sometimes or my guesses turn out to be right a few times will I be psychic too, with out me having the intuitive powers?

Did anyone see Lage raho Munnabai? What happened to the astrologer/fortune teller? He couldn’t foretell his own fate! He was a charlatan!

thangaraj

Autumn Song

Know'st thou not at the fall of the leaf
How the heart feels a languid grief
Laid on it for a covering,
And how sleep seems a goodly thing
In Autumn at the fall of the leaf?

And how the swift beat of the brain
Falters because it is in vain,
In Autumn at the fall of the leaf
Knowest thou not? and how the chief
Of joys seems--not to suffer pain?

Know'st thou not at the fall of the leaf
How the soul feels like a dried sheaf
Bound up at length for harvesting,
And how death seems a comely thing
In Autumn at the fall of the leaf?

-William Blake

Woman a flower of flesh

On the branches of this earth
Flowers of flesh grow every day.
Everyday they are plucked and shaken off
but one day a flower of flesh will grow
that storms will not shake
that hands will not pluck;
A fragrance will spread far and wide
and usher in an unknown peace.

Amrita Pritam

Fall is the most romantic season in my view Heather! There's something very beautiful about it.

Leave aside the miserable
Let them live in misery
They know not the beauty of life
They can't laugh
At the Idiosyncracies of life

I love the Autumn with the Bottom! Funny?!

Psychic Comic

A joker met his white hat hacker
in his clown’s attire not with intellect or guess work
but to boast his psychic powers and end this cosmic comedy

Autumn Sometimes Walks To Summer

Sweetgums' autumn scent
claims this sacred clearing
from the darkened, dappled ground
up to the morning sky.
A canopy of intermittent starry fire
is held above the
sweetgums' long-stretched, rugged necks.
Or are these columns legs,
in stockings made of dark, rough bark?
Do sweetgums walk at night?
Their black-brown vaulting holds
the stars of fire high
above my head, and keeps me safe,
although a star or two is always
wafting down. They sometimes drift into my hair,
they rustle softly underfoot,
a dry, sweet snow of sweetgum leaves.

In drifts of ruddy stars upon the ground
my steps disturb a layered natural order,
New and tender, gently laid in current time,
the stained-glass wines and reds
are stripped away, and show
the brown-black ferment underneath.
And in that dark transition zone
where fire is changed to earth,
a tuft of summer grass
will sometimes show.
A gleam of August green,
untouched by fall's decay
above its head.

Note: The title above comes from two places of current color transition.
One is a grove of sweetgum trees.
The other is a mystery:
My gmail chat status was set to busy last night,
and when I woke today, I was available, instead.
It changed itself, from orange into green,
like autumn walking into summer,
like August grass that flourishes
under mounds of autumn leaves.

http://heatherquinn.blogspot.com/2006/10/autumn-sometimes-walks-to-summer.html

This poetic comment is dedicated to every reader here.

My morning's thoughts are bound to the energies and thoughts and efforts of poets and writers of grace here, including -- but not limited to -- Kate, Geeta, fresportra, Rehan, Keith, Donatella, Craig, Mieke, June, Donna Young, Sachin, North, Navin, Baba, Hypocrite, waylay, ., Curious, summersun, weatherthestorms team, Ravi, WW, AJ, and IBRH. If I've left your name out, please forgive me, you're included, too.

My heart says special thanks to Shekhar, Rahul P., Suchitra, DK Matai, and Arsenio, for leading us in literary creativity. You have all created a furnace, of sorts, at Intentblog, and many of us have become small flames within it. We sometimes dance and crackle in ways we may have not done before.

My deep respect and gratitude is offered to Mallika, all Chopras, and Shekhar for making and maintaining this place for us all to visit, read in, wonder at, comment about, and share.

love, Heather

Psychic Powers

What is it in the powers of the mind
or is it soul,
to sense another's needful presence
half a world way?
To know of danger,
to be given time to act,
to enter in one moment
and come out the other side,
having watched
the numbers on the dice
fall in pleasant ways,
predictable as if an artist drew them,
not the mind?
What is it in the power of mind
or is it soul
that we call psychic?
It is life and we're all part of it.
Not one of us can make a claim
that we are more or less
than others here.
When quiet prevails,
we hear and see
beyond the veil,
and when our
inner strength holds firm,
we're there to help our friends.
We never let them down.

love, Heather

Heather,

Your post #48 was very well said! I concur with your sentiments. Sometimes I read the posts and think, "Oh my, these people know some much and are so very creative." It challanges me to enter into the arena. I see where you have a blogspot...I started one yesterday! Check out the picture I posted

http://youngdonna.blogspot.com/2006/10/autumn-sun.html

Respect and appreciation to ALL...it's been a privilege posting with all of you!

oops...
should be so much not some much...hmmmm...and I mispelled challenges....hmmmm....sorry for the typos!...and my blogspot pic...the words are showing up goofy...I'll have to fix later....hmmmm...I am in eblogger 101!

Dear Donna Young

Great pic! I've learned so much from people here, including how to blog (kind of, anyway ;).

love, Heather

I strongly disagree with Heather. Quite a few in the list are creeps, including some of the big names. No substance, just moving along on name. Same substandards you see time and again. But freedom of speech.

Dear June

Sorry to make you unhappy this morning or evening.

love, Heath

Try out the following steps and see what happens...!

You will have to then ask one question. Whether it's a GOOGLE Failure or a USA Failure?

1. Go to www.google.com
2. Type "failure" (without double quotes) in the search text box.
3. Press "I'm Feeling Lucky" button just next to "Google Search" button.
4. See what happens. Find it out yourself and laugh a lot.
5. Share it with your friends before GOOGLE fixes this bug.

I just saw this email in my inbox.

Cheers!
Navin

Perspective

Look within deep
remove all fear
soon the creep
surprisingly you'll say,
"Oh, my Dear!"
Are you willing for a dare?

nuf fun

Thanks, Heather.

Heather#48 is superb. Thank you. Love and God bless.

Navin, reg #55, that is amazing!! It does not do with other words!! Love and God bless.

Sir Richard!

Do you remember that blog/paper I posted on some thread here at intent? I remember that you said it had 'potential.' Well, after MSN deleted my space, I lost that 'paper' with many other blogs, and I have no hard copies.

If you type in 'The Odd Blogballs,' and google it, it will bring up my old MSN Space, Jacobs Spring, and if you click on it, it is no longer there . . .

Any ideas brother?

Peace

that is too funny, Navin.

Dear Heather,
You are so wonderful.
~ Kate
(and I love the work of William Blake)

Dear Joanie,
Thanks for starting the O.T. with the full circle moon poem.

Geeta,
I am so pleased that you and Swear are in communication. Any chance she will come back to intentblog?
Love and Blessings to her,
and you,
~ Kate

Dear Cinda,
How was graduation day for your daughter?
So exciting!
(I loved my graduation day, oh, a few years ago :)

North,
Have a wonderful weekend with your son and the fam, as you say :))

Love to you,
~ Kate

Mieke,
I am really glad you enjoyed your birthday, and vacation.
It's nice to have you back at intent!
You have my love,
~ Kate

and Harb,
always fun and enlightening to read your comments.
Do comment more!
(if you can - thanks so much :)

oh,
I am so happy today!!
It's Autumn, and a full moon.
Let's meet
and
celebrate

http://www.lightamillioncandles.com/

Dear Heather,
Thanks for including me in your list. I learn a lot from you as well.
A good weekend to everyone.
Love,
Donatella

Dear Donatella,
I hope where you are - this weekend - that you will have a few moments to gaze upon, if not outright stare :)
at the full Moon,
Face,
what
Grace
:))
Love to you,
~ Kate

Dear Kate,
The skies are crystal clear. It bodes well for a stargazing weekend.
Happy Full Moon :)
Love,
Donatella

It is pouring down rain here and so I will not get to see the full moon...but will imagine in my minds eye..Enjoy if you can see it!

Joanie

Kate, Swear says, she will come back to IB in the near future. I will give her your blessings.

We have the most beautiful full moon in Charleston. It is such a gorgeous evening here. It was a lovely day too, with just a little splash of yellow in the dense foliage of our beautiful mountains. Love and God bless.

Geeta,

That's great news about my niece.

Can't wait to hear from her again.

Tell Swear she's been missed and...

her Uncle still rocks!

.

On the way to school this morning to drop off

my daughter for choir practice at 7 a.m. we

beheld such a sight...an orange Harvest Moon,

setting right before sun rise, as far away from

Venus as she could possibly be.

"Daddy! That's the moon?", she asked.

"Yes, sweety...that's because it's made of cheese!"

"Daddy...now I'm hungry", she pouted.

Thats so nice Geeta..It is almost midnight and I walked the dog just not. It is not raining anymore and the sky is very cloudy...BUT in one part of the sky there is a beautiful glow.

It is almost an after rain evening rainbow as you know where the light is coming from and it is quite beautiful.

JOanie

Dear Heather: There was something interesting I was talking with waylay the other day about the human mind and its workings. He has a tremendous understanding of the mind, something like you've, Jungian study of the mind after all. What past trauma, if not healed well, can do to even brilliant minds otherwise is really amazing and has been one of my favorite topics.

A story of suffering and past trauma, what it can do in later part of life has been interesting to me. There was this little girl named sheena. Delicate girl. Her father had some mental problem, frustration because of which he used to physically beat up the girl badly. She had no clue really why it used to happen. Abusive father in the true sense. Mother left the father. Came in another man, richard who was very good to the mother because he really loved the mother. Not the step child who was beaten up by the biological father. Richard was very intelligent, learned, later went onto become a philosopher, but he only loved the woman and no one else really in the whole world. Great in mind but not in heart. The little girl who was growing had no father figure, the mom was stupid enough not knowing how to take care of the child. She even used to criticise the abused girl, who became oversensitive to criticism, so much that she shunned it totally with no sense. Otherwise, very knowledgeable. Amazing eh? And as richard loved the mother and not the step children who were hindrance to him rather than source of love asked the girl to take care of herself as she was close to 18, so that he only could share the mother's love who became his wife.

The little girl who was beaten up in childhood with no fatherly love was almost an adult physically, but not emotionally. She got stunted as that abused child even when she is about 50 now. The woman knows a lot about philosophy, can be quite sharp in conversations, but that stunted abused child still stays with her. Any kind of aggresive behaviour from men, she instantly identifies that with her abusive father. Can't get a better example of transference which jung talks about.

Even when sheena was earlier married, she never got the love which a woman dreams of. She naturally got attracted to a divorced man who was like a father figure to her, which she was deprived of. But later realized that man was more interested in children of his earlier marriage to have a mother for them, rather than a loving spouse. A few relationships before, but it was more based on physical attraction as she was beautiful and had the looks of a model, after all men!! But she never found the emotional connection which Real love is all about.

Materially everything was there later on in life, but the love of a man was missing in her life. And coz of the abusive atmosphere as a child who was horribly beaten up by the biological father, that fearful child remained in her even when she is an adult. Because of this, the shutters come down hard in defence whenever she senses anything remotely resembling of her past traumatised childhood. The poor man, whoever enters in her life now suffers coz she can't receive love properly, doesn't have the emotional maturity as that fearful child is still intact.

It really amazes me how the past traumatic events can ruthlessly dictate the present life. Poor Sheena, I feel bad for her sometimes but sometimes not, because she is so knowledgeable at this age, that she could easily counsel others and cure them but cannot do it for herself.

This real life story as taught me a lot of things.

Life is Amazing!!!

Love,
June

Dear all,

This morning i read a hilarious poem about elder people in dutch and cannot resist to translate it into English and post it here:

LONG LIVE THE ELDERLY

Don´t the elderly have no worth anymore? How so?
We are worth a fortune:

We have silver in our hands, gold in our teeth,
gas in our intestines, lead in our feeth,
scale on our nails, stones in our kidneys,
steel in our hips and plastic in our knees.

Filled with expensive medicine we look a lot like goldmines.
A human with so many minerals must be worth millions of dimes.

Therefore proudly walk through life, take criticism more like a sponge than a knife,
because of the above mentioned wealth, the economy is still thriving on our health.

Dear Mieke

It's good to have you back.

Dear Geeta

I thought about you when I walked through the trees, and later, when I wrote about them. Color, earthiness, transcendence, and so on. I'm so glad to read that Swear might come back.

Dear Kate

I send you the biggest hug, and hope you are well and happy.

Dear Donatella

Hugs to you, too, dear.

Dear June

Yes, that was real Rumi. I will write you a longer note about your most recent comment.

love, Heather

Keith, when Swear called,I was ecstatic, it was so good to hear the dear one's voice for the first time. I already told her every one on the blog missed her. I will tell her again. She asked many questions about you.

It is fun to hear your interactions with your beloved daughter.

I went to the Aquarian United Church on the first of october. I wrote about the church once before. It is a very unusual church. The preachers, and the congregation of this church believe in REINCARNATION, in Mother Goddess, and they are so open to all religions and faiths. All the preachers are also psychic.They give readings for every one. A native American priest preaches on the first Sunday of every month. He told me that I could write poems!!How does he know that I admire people who can write poetry?? He gives the most appropriate messages to every one. I always come away from the church with light steps, bliss in my heart, twinkling eyes and a contented half smile. He said my intellect blocks my creativity!! I was both sad and glad to hear that!! Love and God bless.

Joanie thank you for#70. Love and God bless.

Heather, I love you and your words so much. May God bless you always.

Dear Geeta

I reread your speech. It's excellent, and I was glad to read that your speech went well.

I agree with that priest that you can write poetry -- vis. your story on Arsenio's thread! I understand your happiness at the confirmation that your creativity is strong, and your slight dismay that it has some interference from within. When you were little, you didn't look before you took each step, you just did what was in your heart. Well, now, for writing and other forms of creativity, maybe remembering how that was can create an emotional setting, where your intellect can step back, and let your wholeness take over.

love, Heather

Dear June

Your perception and compassion, shown in your comment above, will make it possible for me to reply to you, though it means I will be sharing some personal stuff.

Past trauma not healed, and its effect on the mind, have also been important for me. That's why Jung made so much sense to me, when I first read his work. He was ever non-judgmental, and he was willing to follow complex evidence into its own reality, and make new discoveries about how the mind works, from what he saw. I needed to know that such intelligences as Jung's existed in this world, for me to start on my own path to healing, to show me that, after all, there was some sanity in this world.

My story has some similarities with Sheena's story. In my case, it was the mother who was brutal. My mom was alcoholic, and mentally ill. My categorizing her this way is a way of trying to make her behavior to me less personal, so I don't take it as her judgement of me as a person. My father and mother did not divorce. My father protected me sometimes when I was very little (he probably saved my life), and ignored what was going on after that.

The relatively unconditional love that parents have for their children is soemthing I never experienced. It's a component of a natural childhood, and I never had it. So I've always had a hunger for it. And I, too, have a stunted abused child within me, who often informs every reaction I have, and every decision I make.

With most of the abuse coming from my mother, I was most often attracted to men who were mentally ill and/or alcoholic. I knew that mindset. My pysche wanted a "do-over" -- a chance to replay my infancy and childhood, with someone who had similarities to my mom, who might get it right.

Whenever there was something strong between me and a man who was mentally healthy, I pushed him away. For a long time, I thought it was because I felt unworthy, being so used to abuse. Now I realize I just had no familiarity with mental health -- it felt unreal to me.

But there was another reason that I pushed away love with mentally healthy men: Those I should have been able to trust -- my parents, my mom in particular -- taught me that when I trusted, I was in danger of being abused physically and emotionally. I learned to avoid trust. Whenever I began to trust someone, I felt I needed to run away, or I would get hurt. My parents taught me that this was right, over and over. And the lesson stayed with me.

As I've matured, I've come to see the wonderful qualities of the healthy men I connected with who I pushed away, and mourn the fact that I pushed them away. The first time I did this, the man wasn't a man, he was just a boy named Jerry. He courted me, with his parents' permission, when we were both 8 years old. He was a young prince, but I treated him with disdain. I could not understand his good treatment of me at all!

I didn't need to worry about feeling trust, then running away, or pushing away, with unhealthy men, because they always fulfilled all my expectations of untrustworthiness and abusiveness.

So throughout my life, the little infant me who needed her mother's and father's love and protection, was still crying inside me every day, though usually very quietly.

When my parents died a few years ago, I spiralled into deep depression. When my mother died, I was livid with anger, too. She left without ever apologizing for what she'd done. I needed that apology as much as I needed her love.

I've shared here before that it was finding Hindi films (for which I need to thank my boss) that helped me get through that time of sadness and anger. How did Indian films help me? There's an open, emotional warmth, characteristic of Indian culture and life, that pervades every Indian film I've seen so far, even action films and so on. This gave me joy to observe. It made me see for the very first time that there were ways to live that were different from the abusive universe I'd known. Family relations as depicted in Indian films served as new models for me, for things I'd never seen in my own life -- how loving a mother could be, how protective a father could be, how warm a family could be despite individual differences, tensions and conflicts.

Indian films brought me to IB, where I met everyone here, about a year ago. And my life began to change, at about the same time I discovered IB and its community. The company I worked for moved, so my work evironment became much healthier (I'd been pretty sick for about 6 years due to the work environment, and that had been part of my depression). I met a man who has the compassion of a mother and the strength of a father. But he's neither a mother nor a father. He's just himself. My love for him is very strong, and it seems to be unconditional. In many respects, he's as mentally healthy as those guys I pushed away so often. Yet he's not perfect, so when I'm feeling I need to run away or push him away, I can remember his imperfections, and feel comfortable. And, thank God, he's patient and gentle with me, and gives me time to find my way back to him when fear overtakes me, as it sometimes still does. Though he can be strong and forceful, he is usually quiet, which gives me space to be myself. He doesn't flaunt his love, but I can feel it. Without his gentleness and caring persistence, I'd never have let him into my life; without his strength and compassion, I'd be too scared to let him stay.

I resonate very strongly with Sheena's life story and her predicament, because it's so like my own. I think it's wonderful that you know her, and I hope that over time, some of your gentleness and wisdom will help heal the fearful child hiding within her.

My own fearful child is still here, but right now, she's holding hands with the man I love, and she's starting to relax and grow up.

love, Heath

Dear Heather: I was Awestruck while reading your post. I've to Bow before your boldness and inner beauty! The boldness to not hide, but to come out and openly express it out, the trauma and suffering you went thru'. How you managed to cross over the obstacles sometimes and sometimes stumbled over and over. TY for your inspiring story.

Somehow, I find you to be the Queen in the true sense. A leo who leads, shows the way, inspires. Maybe it's the natural love connection I've with you, but I see So much bigness and beauty in you.

You've touched my Heart So deeply, that my mind has become numb. You're to be valued and treasured. You're an Example for people like Sheena to learn.

Love,
June

Dear Heather, June and many others here,

It is so good to read your stories and that you are able to talk about it. I did this in a women´s group when i was 34. I had the privilege to attend a course for women that were orientating themselves on the different aspects of society in our country at the end of the seventies. Things were starting to really change for the better for women in those days.

Before that we lived in a patriarchal society, despite the Beatles in the sixties and other music groups who in fact paved the way for all changes. I am also a product of that society, only had very progressive parents which in that time was more a con for me than a pro because they were ahead of their time then.

So contrary to you i had a very good youth, we were very poor after world war II but happiness was a common thing during those days because we could be happy with "nothing" ;).

Yet the fact that i was "free" in those days did not work in favour of me when entering my puberty age. Most of my friends were still so "indoctrinated" that for me it was almost a must to adjust myself in order to be accepted. So the end of this was that at the age of 15 i wanted to go into a monestary lol

When looking back, there is one important thing that i do realize now and that is that we all, whether man or woman encounter the lessons in life that we have to learn each in our own way in order to grow. When you realize that, you also realize that at the very basic core we are all one, both in our suffering and in our joys.

There is a kind of red thread that leads you in your life towards where you are now, that is something i firmly believe in.

I have written about my story a few times already on intent blog. If you are interested, i have written a few articles on the Wiki pages of the Alliance for the New Humanity on their stories page, i.e. How my life changed and Our Generation. Also about The Simple Society, the way i see it, but that is more or less a conclusive article influenced by the many books i have read. written by Deepak Chopra.

I hope the above makes some sense. Know that i have only written this to express my sincere commitment and solidarity.

Much love,

Dear June

Your gentleness and compassion made a safe place for me to share that. There are others at IB who have challenged me to drop my ego, and open up, too. (And there is that guy I love, as well. ;) ) I'm still stumbling. Sheena is me and I am Sheena. It is a terrible thing, to have been taught to fear, by those who should have taught love and trust. Only gentle friends and quiet love can undo the harm. And even then it takes a long time.

If each of us knows someone like Sheena or me, we can help them best by simply accepting their fear as their handicap, loving them softly, expecting nothing of them, and approaching them very warily. Their (our) natural instinct and great longing is to open up and to give and accept love, but they (we) have been taught very strongly that it's dangerous to do that.

So we open up, then retreat, come close, then run away. We still long for love and intimacy, and we don't know how to get out of the cages built around us by our abusers. The cages can't be broken from the outside. When we see enough gentleness, acceptance and love outside the cage, somehow the bars of the cage break apart and we walk out. This is what's happening to me now, and the process is not yet complete.

love, Heath

Autumn Sometimes Walks To Summer

Sweetgum trees, with ruddy leaves like stars,
their scent fills autumn air
from darkened ground to morning sky.

Their trunks are long-stretched, rugged necks.
Or are they legs, in stockings dark and rough?
Do sweetgums walk at night?

The dark and vaulted columns hold their
fiery autumn leaves, like burning stars,
above my head, and keep me safe.

Five-pointed flames are tender underfoot,
dry rustling snow of sweetgum leaves.
Red stars float down (and sometimes kiss my hair).

In drifts of leaves upon the ground
my walk disturbs a layered natural order,
stained-glass wines and reds are stripped away.

In blackened ferment where new earth is born,
a tuft of grass will sometimes show an August green,
untouched by all decay above its head.

Dedicated to the writers at IB who've taught me so much by their examples, esp. Rahul P.

love, Heather

Dear Mieke,
Thank you for #78. Love and God bless.

Dear Heather,

#80 is lovely. #76 is very moving. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for#75. The encouragement I receive at the hands of my beloved friends, such as yourself, on IB, makes me a daily visitor here and I look forward to spending time here. Whether or not I am ever able to write poetry, is not important. What is important is what I write is never hurtful to any one. Love and God bless.

Dear Heather: I was contemplating on your wonderful posts yesterday. Even though I'm deep in both mind and heart, I always felt that women naturally are endowed with beauties of the heart. I've learnt and absorbed quite a lot in these matters in the company of women, especially from you, without mentioning much about this to you.

There were some wonderful points in there. It's the actions and reactions. It's been one of my favorite subject to see how, say for example we choose 5 different approaches and see the reactions in one person. An approach which works for b, can bring in an altogether different reaction in c. Same approach, different person, different results. Perms and combs as we learn in maths.

Tell me something, why sheena inspite of having knowledge of all these matters, cannot help herself. It's a different story if she is not aware of this, which you see so many in the world actually needing someone who has the knowledge. But she knows all this, she talks about mass enlightenment, but she doesn't do much for herself. It's so silly to think by opening the eyes, there will be light and by closing it will be darkness. What a defensive answer eh? Once you talk of spirituality at depths, you cannot hide yourself. She is someone whom you know actually. It's clear though. Has very poor insight about criticism, fond of rabbits and runs like a rabbit at the very sound of criticism but portrays with an ego of a lioness. Over the yrs, I've seen how that cage can sometimes be broken from the outside. All you need is a hammer and strike a couple of blows. Bang and solved. Initital reaction will be that of defence, but later it will get clear. On the other hand, nothing like breaking it from inside. Deepak teaches a lot about all this. The reason, why he allows conflict and doesn't delete anything at chopra.com is this. He thinks conflict is necessary sometimes, there has to be that churning in the cauldron of chaos for the unhealthy patterns to be broken to be replaced by newer healthier ones. He believes, thru' this the cage crumbles gradually, and as I told you from my experience I've seen this happening.

It's always exciting talking with you.

Love,
June

Dear Jane

People like Sheena, me and others who have been abused, can heal only parts of ourselves. It is not really under our control.

We have had something that should have been properly provided from external sources either not provided, or immensely distorted. Because all living beings have evolved to interact with the world, there are certain things that we cannot cannot get from ourselves, in full. We need certain things from outside sources. We need trustworthy and loving parental care as much as we need food and water. If parental care is missing completely, even of no direct abuse is involved, infants often die, even if food and water are provided.

As I said in a comment above: Sheena is me and I am Sheena. It is a terrible thing, to have been taught to fear, by those who should have taught love and trust. Only gentle friends and quiet love can undo the harm. And even then it takes a long time.

If each of us knows someone like Sheena or me, we can help them best by simply accepting their fear as their handicap, loving them softly, expecting nothing of them, and approaching them very warily.

We abused people have a natural instinct and great longing to open up and to give and accept love, but we have been taught very strongly that it's dangerous to do that.

So we open up, then retreat, come close, then run away. We still long for love and intimacy, and we don't know how to get out of the cages built around us by our abusers. The cages can't be broken from the outside. When we see enough gentleness, acceptance and love outside the cage, somehow the bars of the cage break apart and we walk out. How and when this happens cannot be predicted. It would be different for each abused individual.

Do not be discomfited if an abused person seems to reject your attempts to help him or her. The rejection is not personal, it's a remnant of the abuse. Though you can see health and strength in the abused person, and the abused person is internally and externally striving at every moment to achieve health and strength, the abused person is still living in the land of abuse, and health is not strong in that land.

Strong tactics may seem to be effective in the short term, but remember, the abused person is used to appearing to comply when faced with a lot of powerful strength in another person. But internally, the abused person is not complying, he or she is fighting to get away. He or she has a very basic, strong reaction when others are too strong: get away, because danger may follow.

Only the most gentle, tender love over time will help an abused person. The essence of abuse is others' control and power over the abused person. For the abused person to get free of the abused mindset, he or she must have loving friends who do not use control or power over him or her. Freedom offered from love is the only medicine that works, and even that takes time and it must be done at the pace the abused person is most comfortable with.

Because trust is also an issue, consistency in gentle love is of paramount importance, too. A single instance of impatience will be read by the abused person as a potential for love to leave and abuse to follow, and the abused person will withdraw from the relationship, emotionally and otherwise. The abused person is hypervigilant, the abused person is suffering from PTSD. If one becomes impatient with the progress of an abused person one loves, the relationship will take a step backwards. To fix the mistake, start again with gentle love, as consistently as possible. Over a period of months, the abused person will once again relax, and allow trust to re-enter the relationship.

Once a person has been abused, anything that has an aspect of the abuse one has suffered from, reactivates the entire emotional reaction in the abused person. This is true even if that action is not abusive in itself. It is nothing to take personally, it is part of the dynamic of reaction to abuse that is created in the victim by the original abuser. Take it slow, be gentle, loving and consistent, because that is the only remedy that works when applied from the outside. Time cannot be rushed, progress cannot be rushed. Do nothing that can be interpreted by the abused person as pushing or using power over him or her. Do not be too energetic with the abused person. Over time, the abused person will see the inner person in you, and will fully understand how gentle you are.

love, Heath

Dear Heather, June and Geeta,

Thanks :)

Dear Heather: It's been enlightening to read your posts on this subject. I bow to the Universe for its Amazing timing!! As we discussed earlier, just like there is no one correct fixed path to reach God or Self realization, so in life to many things there isn't one single approach which is right, as you sometimes seem to think. What doesn't work for a, may work wonders for b, the same may work so so for c. Your personal story of abused childhood has been very interesting and a learning experience.

Love,
June

Dear Donatella: Yes, there's been lot of grievance on both sides. Heather is the Woman, I was talking about when it comes to compassion. I've not known anyone so firmly anchored in compassion! Why wouldn't I shake hands for peace, it's always the best option. It's ok, with time the past will go away. Maybe with Heather in the center, we three can be good friends. But you'll have to learn to laugh like her:) kidding. You can be yourself. I still like to use my pseudonym June, the summer month which I love the most. Maybe the Universe set it it up all this. I strongly believe in this.

Peace,
June

Dear June,
Yes, I think Heather's compassion has been the key for this wonderful development. I value your friendship.
Love,
Donatella

Dear Donatella: If we get onto clear the misconceptions, it will take ages. You've understood most of the things, that's what matters. Befriend her, you can't get a better friend than her. Take my word. She went against me to support you. Incredible. It was the admin which was unfair, but it's ok. You know how happy I was after two months of my mom gone. We feel not just happy, but Extremely happy for her passing away because of the suffering she had. Anway...leave aside all that..

Focus on the right things here now. We'll have fun when Heather comes.

Love,
June

Oye, dear June and Donatella

There is no key in me to this, it is in the two of you.

love, Heath

Dear IBRH

Please read Shakepeare's Sonnet 26. I bow to your quiet presence with respect and gratitude...

Heather

What about my posts Heath and Dona? :-) It's very nice of you Heather to say it's the other two. Take my word, without you it wouldn't have been possible. Just the way you adore ibrh for certain things, I do you for certain reasons.

Your post#75 has to be cut and pasted on a wall. As a teacher, if I've to take a class on this topic. That's the one I'll choose. Outstanding!! Listen, something somewhere has been holding me at IB. I'm quite happy Donatella has broken that cage. Of course, she will ideally have to absorb a lot from you in the coming days in my opinion, but I shall be here for a few days more just to smoothen it out. We'll get Donatella into the merry go round we have with ibrh. LOL!!! That will be great fun really. Of course you all have your community too. Heather, Isn't Donatella pretty in the pic there?

Some of your posts of late Heather have been incredible. Has my presence brought something out? Do I push you gently to your limits of your best?:-)

Love,
June

Happy Thanksgiving Day, Canada!

Donetello, June, and Kate I posted something for you on Arsenio's "Change of Heart"...I was having problems posting it here...so I tried and did it there!

Good moooornnninnngg, Intentblog!

Tell me, dear ones, is there anyone here has to wrestle with great pain, grief and embarassment when creating stuff?

I worked on drawing practice, drawings, and web design, from Friday through this morning. Despite my 4 days' complete immersion in art, this morning I feel completely out of touch with my visual arts capabilities. I think I'm still resisting the difficulties of doing art, and my emotions are created a panic-driven disconnect within me from it. But I'm not sure. I haven't ever experienced a feeling exactly like this before. I'm working on getting much deeper inside my art than I have been for a long time. When I used to do serious art consistently, I remember I often felt very queasy while I was doing it, and after. This feels somewhat like that, but it seems to have an intellectual component, too. The queasiness and intellectual components are both related to my judging my own work on every level, and feeling cynical about it. I'm feeling at sea -- seasick, in fact -- and am trying to find ways to feel more grounded. Does anyone else experience strange difficulties with being creative? Or am I simply going mad?? ;) :( ;) Besides the fact that I feel weird, I'm also impatient and irritable because I'm in the office, and I would so rather be back at home doing art. It's as if I have a child waiting for me at home, whose needs are so much more important than what I have to do here. Yet I have to be here, to make money to feed my child at home. :(

I'd love to hear what anyone has to say about being creative, in any way. But especially, do you have difficult feelings to wrestle with, when you're being creative with writing, visual art, music, thinking, sports, preparation for a professional situation, etc.??

love, Heather

Bon jour Heather,
Yes, I can tell you that I have more than stumbled, struggled, and walked away from the creative process, when it doesn't 'gel' - when every material I use looks beyond repair from the damage of my misuse of creativity (I try not to hurt anyone's aesthetic appeal, which is a judgement call anyway, right :)

I have discarded many pieces - music, art, poetry, orgami, cooked dishes, and other sundry works of so-called art, because I was not pleased.

This process of discarding can be painful, or fun.

Recent years have let it be meaningfully revealing, which is what I find captivating in your question.

Revealing,
is the
REWARD.

With love,
~ Kate

Dear Kate

Thanks for your answer. I just realized what I feel like today: The first day of school in freshmen year at a new high school -- as if I'm supposed to know what I'm doing, but I don't, and every move I make embarrasses me. :)

love, Heath

Dear Heather and June,
I am very glad to join you in your conversations on the healing path. We are all on it, regardless of our childhood experiences. Love is the driving force of the universe, as you both know.
Yes, my dear Heather, you are a very loving woman and have a very positive influence here. Thanks so much for being so much fun and for sharing your creativity with me and all IB bloggers :)
Love,
Donatella
P.S. Please know that when I have not been vocal about my childhood it was exclusively because I did not think I had the right to hurt my parents. They are well known in my country and they have also been very good parents in many ways.

Hey Heather, Did you watch lage raho munnabhai or what? You're painting your way to glory eh? Come down, spend sometime here with us. Dear Donatella, it maybe another wonderful experience having fun with Heather. Fasten your seatbelts, we're about to fly:-)

Love,
June

Dear June

Yes I did see that film. I loved it -- I laughed and cried the whole way thru, it was very strange to walk out of the film with cheeks well-toned from laughing for more than two hours, and very very red eyes. I love both Sanjay Dutt and Arshid Warsi. It was a great sugar coating for the core Gandhian message. I love my India... (too bad it's not really mine).

Did some research on the old UK Victorian-era language of flowers -- lavender heather is solitude, pink heather is luck, white heather is protection and good wishes. I was surprised at these meanings, and I think I will incorporate images of heather in a new web site I'm making for my art. I love solitude, I need good luck, and I need protection and good wishes, too.

Is there a language of flowers in India?

If I were in Hyderabad today, I'd ask you out, to go to the cinema to see Woh Lamhe -- you for the 2nd time, me for the 1st -- if it's still playing -- but of course, I'm in NYC. I really love all the Woh Lamhe songs!

I'm not painting my way to glory, I'm struggling, struggling, stumbling, too, through the fens of my psyche as I try to figure out what art is about and what I'm here for. !!!

Dear Donatella

What does your name mean?

love, Heath

Dear Heath,
I don't struggle with my creativity. When I am writing or drawing I let the creative energy take over. I hardly have a plan sometimes -- something in me takes over. When I let this happen, I like the results much better.
Good luck with your creative process.
Dear June,
They are fastened :)
Love,
Donatella

Thx a lot Dear Heather for your visit. I love lavender heather, love pink h, love green h, love white h. I love all colors of heather:-) It's quite a good movie, as there is that gandhian message. We saw microscopic effect of the film here in India. A fad which will be washed away. But, at least for a few days it did. Good to know.
Oh, it would be third time for me Heather:-) I've gone crazy over that movie. It just what resonates with my personality my woman. We will talk about this movie later.

Dear Donatella, So nice to have you, to see already belts fastened. Our Dear Heather the pilot, when she is not too drunk LOL! she flies the plane well, but sometimes if she has a hangover then it can be a bit shaky, but all in all she's a good pilot. She makes sure that if she's tired she hands over the pilot seat to me. Donatella, try to get hold of this one movie which we were talking abt with english subtitles. It will be worth watching it. I wish I could take you and heather to watch it, how nice that would be. You didn't tell her the meaning of ur name.

There's this fear of losing peace erupting again in the world becoz of n.korea. In India, I just saw a poll saying 77% favor it, as it is the rt response for American dadagiri(bullying).

I've alway loved being a lover not a fighter:-)
(Darkgown girl is mine:song by MJ and Paul Mcartney)

Love,
June

Dear Heath,
It just occurred to me that I sometimes struggle with my Odissi dance. Although I adore this art form, I have a lot to learn!
Love,
Donatella
P.S. My teacher and best friend makes it a joy to learn, though.

Dear June,
I'll look for that movie...it sounds great.
My name...it means "a gift from God".
Love,
Donatella

Dear Donatella

A dear friend of mine has a nickname with a similar meaning. That's a great name.

You'll laugh, I hope, to read that I'm relieved that you sometimes struggle with Odissi dance. It's a very difficult form of dance, I know, and I'd think most people would find it hard to do. I was feeling even more unskilled and insubstantial in life than I had been, after I read that you had no creative struggles, and now I feel a little more normal. ;)

Dear June

I can understand about the US bullying reaction.

dear Donatella and June

There's a fresh post from ATCA, about North Korea and the UN.

love, Heath

Dear June, Donatella and Heather,
It could be the night
for
Dancing!
What do you say?
~ Kate

Dear Heath,
You are a good artist already...no need to worry :)

Dear June, There are three posts about war now. I wonder when we'll finally learn to adopt more peaceful solutions to the world problems.

Love,
Donatella

Dear Kate,
Why not?
I am thinking of my Odissi routine of the Goddesses Durga and Saraswati.
Love,
Donatella

Dear Kate

There are very few things I love more than dancing. I'm on!

When danger is upon us, dance and other arts can help us stay centered.

love, Heath

Heather: I think You drink a lot, that's why you struggle. LOL! Just kidding. No, we do have our best times and worst times. When the flow is just awesome, and at times all blocked. Oh yeah the world politics, same drama continues there. Bombs violence, you condemn I condemn but we are good people, ur rogues that's y u don't have rt. We can have as many nuclear bombs as we want, becoz we are not rogues. Our religion says this, you're wrong we are rt. I'm out of it for now. I want to Explore Love deeper. As Deepak says love is Unfathomable. I want to see how much Unfathomable it is. I've always loved deep deep things. Violet is my fav color. Deep bass like Cello what attracts me.

Donatella, why don't you share some of ur experiences with Oddisi dance, and other form of dance.

Love,
June

Yes Kate, maybe we can dance but do you drink a lot?LOL!

Heath, how about going to south korea, we all dancers and teach dance to them as danger is upon them and also the American admin. We'll teach them how thru' dance we can avert this danger. LOL! Hope u like my humor.

Dear June

Oye, Bhai, I barely drink at all. When I was in college, on my 19th b'day, I was challenged to drink a lot, and I got sick from alcohol poisoning, and since then I can't drink. It was a lucky thing for me, since alcohol addiction is present on both sides of my family. It's my running away from my destiny, and facing my long-standing fear that I can't live up to it, that's causing my present creative unease, I believe.

Wow, cellos and violet! Very very spiritual, both! Don't you remember what I said about your musical heart, singing beautifully in a forest clearing?

It would be great if we could solve the problems of world peace with dance. Imagine Bush dressed in a Kathakali costume -- if he had studied dance from boyhood, he might be an OK person; instead, he went out fishing and shooting geese and ducks with his father.

Dear Donatella

I would love to hear more about dance, whenever you're in the mood to write about it.

love, Heath

Dear Heath,
That is definitely a good thing that you have become allergic to alcohol. I am a teetotaler since birth. I don't like anything artificial that may dull the mind and damage the nervous system.

I'd love to share my divine Odissi dance with you...some day.
Love,
Donatella

Dear Heather: Having come from such a difficult background, you've blossomed this much in many areas is beautiful. I also think though, you got lucky breaks from destiny. Like this alochol episode you were talking about. Perfect example of a blessing in disguise was it for you. Oh btw, like Donatella, I'm teetotaller. Smoking is too difficult to stand, alcohol no. I'm ok if others are into it. Especially wine and other drinks in moderation, I'm fine with that.

Yes, you did tell me abt this shying away becoz of the past, but I didn't really find that in you. About the luck, I think destiny was again kind in sending you a loving man who could do the tricks for you. Support is the key in such matters Heather.

Oh boy!! What humor! My god. Bush in kathakali costume as a kid. LOL! Yes, if he was not into killing those animals and Sr Bush had taken him to dance classes or music classes. We may have seen a different world. Do you think it's a bit late now Heath to introduce such fine things of life into some of the world politicians?LOL!

Dear Donatella, On habits we're so much similar. anything artificial numbing the mind, no no. When God has given Music, Love...such natural Intoxicants which can keep u high 24/7 what is the need for other? Simple point. Isn't it?

Love,
June

Dear June,
Yes...good point. Love is definitely the best, whether it's Divine or human.

Tony Karon writes:-

"So, now what?

North Korea's announcement of a successful underground detonation of a nuclear weapon has called Washington's bluff. President Bush had long warned that the U.S. will not "tolerate" a nuclear-armed North Korea, and just last week his chief negotiator with the hermit regime, Christopher Hill, warned that Pyongyang would have to choose between having nuclear weapons and having a future. Monday morning's announced test suggests that Kim Jong-il has decided to test Washington's "or else."

The consternation at failing to deter North Korea from becoming the world's eighth declared nuclear weapons state (joining the U.S., Russia, France, Britain, China, India and Pakistan — Israel is generally believed to have nuclear weapons, although it has never publicly disclosed such capability) will hardly be confined to Washington.

South Korea has called its national security council into emergency session, and will face pressure from the U.S. and Japan to terminate its "Sunshine" policy of trade and engagement aimed at moderating North Korean behavior. Japan, well within range of North Korea's missiles and a longtime object of its ire, will press for a tough response, and may see its own debate over whether to build nuclear weapons rejoined with new vigor. China will face the uncomfortable reality that its patronage of and friendship with North Korea gave it no leverage, at the decisive moment, over a troublesome neighbor whose actions threaten to destabilize the entire region and provoke a more assertive U.S. presence on turf that Beijing regards as its own back yard.

As much as the international community was unanimous in warning the North Koreans against proceeding — the U.N. Security Council on Friday warned that a nuclear test would be treated as a threat to global peace, language that could open the way for binding sanctions or even tougher action — the next steps remain unclear, and potentially divisive. The U.S. and Japan will likely push for harsh sanctions, to back a demand that North Korea submit to denuclearization under international supervision. China and South Korea will likely back the principle that North Korea must be punished for crossing a red line, but their aversion to sanctions is based on fears of potentially cataclysmic chaos accompanying the collapse of the regime in Pyongyang, and those fears won't have been eased by the regime demonstrating a capacity to lash out with nuclear weapons if it is being choked to death. Given North Korea's huge standing army and the vulnerability of South Korea to its conventional artillery and missile capability — as well as the extent of U.S. commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan — any military response remains unlikely.

North Korea's test will alter the tenses and grammar of the international community's demands, from insisting that North Korea refrain from developing and testing nuclear weapons to insisting that it reverse course and agree to denuclearize under international supervision. Those demands will likely now be backed by tougher sanctions, although the extent of likely sanctions is uncertain because the factors restraining neighbors from choking North Korea's food and energy lifeblood remain in place. And North Korea clearly sees its nuclear test not as ending the discussion, but rather as a way of strengthening its negotiating position: Its statement last week announcing the forthcoming test stressed that North Korea refused to disarm unilaterally, but remained committed to a dialogue "aimed at settling the hostile relations between the DPRK and the U.S. and removing the very source of all nuclear threats from the Korean Peninsula and its vicinity." It added that North Korea remained committed to achieve "the denuclearization of the peninsula through dialogue and negotiation."

Shortly before the nuclear test, CNN had reported that North Korea had indicated to China that it might be prepared to hold off on testing a weapon if the U.S. agreed to direct talks. Presumably, Pyongyang will continue to pursue that diplomatic goal, hoping that the crisis it has created by testing a nuclear weapon will bring pressure on the U.S. to abandon its own refusal to deal directly with North Korea. Until now, China and South Korea, in particular, have urged the United States to engage in such a dialogue. It remains to be seen whether the nuke test changes their stance.

North Korea may be hoping that, as in the case of India and Pakistan, an initial flurry of diplomatic scolding will eventually be followed by the international community resignedly engaging with a new member of the nuclear club for want of any other alternative. U.S. negotiator Christopher Hill has tried to disabuse them of that expectation, telling the New York Times last week, "this ain't Pakistan." Whether the U.S. can make it so, however, will depend, in large part, on the positions taken by South Korea and China in the weeks ahead."

Regards...

Dear Heather,
The Choctaw Indians have a beautiful dress and form of dance.

I once was invited to the reservation in Mississippi where there is still a thriving community.

There is beauty and color to the style and pattern of the hand-made shirts and skirts.

I danced in the circle and moved in rhythm with the drums and singing. It was fun.

To dance,
or not to dance,
that is the
question.
:)

~~ Kate

Shazaaam!!!

Let's boogie down to the DISCO.

Gather up The Village People

and we'll be dancing at the

Y.M.C.A.

We're gonna groove at the

Y.M.C.A.

Gettin' down at the

Y.M.C.A.

Bustin' moves at the

Y.M.C.A

~~~///~~~///---```'''***

$$$LOOooo...w Down, Kate!

Hey there, Keith
Is it too late to accept?
There is still moonglow, and the air is autumn fresh.
Jean-Francois can pick an Eva Cassidy tune for us,
after YMCA!
Luvs to you,
~ Kate

Casey Cassem's

Top 40 IB dedications

#40
starts out with a request from Keith...
YMCA...
it takes a village...
a visionary request for ALL those at IB tonight...

Casey Cassem's

Top 40 IB dedications

#40
starts out with a request from Keith...
YMCA...
it takes a village...
a visionary request for ALL those at IB tonight...

signing off ... may the countdown continue...

may the countdown continue
with all those late night IB bloggers

Dear DonnaY,
Before you leave, put a record on the turnstyle! One that you especially like.
Which do you choose?
~ Kate

Donna,
join in a dance too!

Thanks for the “Happy Thanksgiving Day Canada”.

The house is empty again and here a quick remark about North Korea. It is pretty hard to respect that nut who dictates this beautiful put impoverished country, but there is a good chance that all he wants is attention and recognition.

There is also a good chance that the US talking directly to this dictator would have prevented him from doing his test.

What has happened to talking to other nations, something that under Clinton was so normal?

Hello intentbloggers who live in Delhi please support Bant sigh...

I'm posting an email how you all can support Bant singh...
Andaleeb

Hey Everyone,

We're doing a Dastangoi performance as part of a fund raiser for Shri Bant Singh. I am sure you must have heard about him. If you're curious then you may click here for details. I'd request you to join us at the fund raiser and contribute to Bant Singh's rehabilitation funds. If you cannot make it then you may, if you wish, tip your friends about this fund raiser.

Thanks & warm regards,

Danish

Bant Singh Can Still Singh
Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:00 pm JNU City Centre, Near Mandi House
35, Feroze Shah Road
Delhi, Delh, India
Map & Directions
Phone: 9868038981

Forum for Democratic Initiatives invites you to an evening of cultural performances to celebrate resistance.

Bant Singh, a Dalit singer and an agrarian worker, who continues to be defiant even after the amputation of three limbs, is currently being treated in St. Stephen's Hospital, Delhi. The doctors are hopeful that with artificial limbs, Bant Singh will be able to walk again.

Bant Singh was assaulted by powerful landlords in Mansa, Punjab for consistently pursuing the legal battle against the rapists of his daughter and for organising the rural poor under the banner of Mazdoor Mukti Morcha (of the All India Agriculture Labour Association).

An evening of cultural performances to honour Bant Singh's courage and defiance and to raise funds for his rehabilitation will be held on 15th October 2006 (Sunday)

venue: jnu city centre, near mandi house, 35, feroze shah road, new delhi

time: 4:00 pm

* an exhibition of photographs by raghu rai and others

* 'video letter from bant singh'

* musical performance by rahul ram of indian ocean

* sufi songs by dhruv sangari

* bhojpuri songs by hirawal, a patna-based cultural group

* ragini and haryanvi folk songs

* akarmashi: a play based on saran kumar limbale's story

* dastangoi: the lost art of urdu story telling by mahmood farooqui and danish husain

* protest poetry by balli singh cheema and others

* revolutionary Punjabi songs by Iqbal Udasi

Contributions for the programme will be directed to the 'bant singh relief fund'

Entries are through coupons ranging from Rs. 100/- to Rs. 500/- For further details, coupons and contributions contact: Forum for democratic initiatives

9868038981/ 9811625577 / 9910074470/ 9810252416/ 9818416968/ 9871338943

Our intellectual friend Skeptisch, who resides in beautiful Canada, asserts:-

"There is also a good chance that the US talking directly to this dictator would have prevented him from doing his test.

What has happened to talking to other nations, something that under Clinton was so normal?"

Skep:-

You are absolutely right on the money!

It defies reason why Bush would not sit down, in bilateral discussions, with N Korea to resolve this nuclear-proliferation issue. It was exactly the kind of opening he should (and would) have wanted if he was serious about the elimination of WMDs in the hands of dubious (nefarious) regimes in the world.

But no, he is more interested in a six-nation, round-table talk with the Pyangyong dictator, just like he could not testify before the 9/11 Commission without Dick Cheney by his side!

This man will undoubtedly go down in the annals of history as one of the worst, if not the worst, presidents of the United States of America!

How unfortunate!

Sorry Kate I turned in before asked me to put a record on the turnstyle but I see where Andaleeb did!

at #39 a long distance (for me that is) dedication from Delhi for Bant Singh..
HE CAN NOT ONLY SING
BUT
HE CAN ALSO DO IT, DANCE!

3 CHEERS TO BANT!

DANCE OUT ALL FEAR
EMBRACE
ALL
EACH
ARE
PRECIOUS
AND
DEAR

My request, Kate is this slow, steady, dance

WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD

I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And i think to myself:
"What a wonderful world!"

I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to my self:
"What a wonderful world!"

The colors of the rainbow so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shaking hands saying "How do you do."
Thay really say: "I love you!"

I hear babies crying I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll ever know
And I think to myself:
"What a wonderful world!"
Yes, I think to myself:
"What a wonderful world!"

Ron and Skeptish; what can we, the little people do, to pursuade people, to open their eye's to the dictatorship and tyranny, of the american president; and how his actions, have/will put all of north america, in jeapardy?

North

HAPPY HARVEST FESTIVAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All things bright and beautiful and so on .......

:-0

love simon xx

Hi Simon; this was a wonderful thanksgiving weekend, with my son coming home from college, and two sisters coming from far away!

The weather was perfect too, so what a great bonus.

I have four days of dish's to do, as I was not home to do them, wasn't well when I was, this including a big dinner here on Sunday... so today is the day! ugggh. They were rinsed, etc. but now to wash them up! Gee, wish I had a dishwasher just for today.... lol

AND, what to do with soOOo much leftover food, and nobody here but me, to eat it? good lord...I think, I reaped too much harvest this year? lol

Will find a big family, who can use the excess.

North

Hey, North

Take care of things up NORTH and take good care of yourself. My brother had surgery last week and we also are waiting for results. Take care, North

Hey, Simon

I missed the cut-off date of getting a postcard from you from Ireland, but when and where is your next trip? I recently went to Albuquerque, NM for a convention...we rode a tram up to the top of the Sandia mountain...it was beautiful!

Hi DonnaY, thankyou! I will keep your brother in my prayers, for good results!! Off I go, to do hours of dish's.... focus on the task at hand, and keep my thoughts clear of cluttering fear. : )

With loving kindness,
North

http://www.funrestarea.com/pages/snl_robert_deniro.shtml

LOL this is funny.....

Funny talking about the dishes North, I was out in Newcastle with a group of friends about 3 weeks ago and there was one of the group of women who lived near me and so she asked me if she could get a ride home, no problem I said and we had been talking about music on the way to her place so when we arrived at her house she insisted that I came in and listened to an Album that she had bought.

I had thought twice about going in the main reason was that she was drunk and I wasn't...so whent in had 2 cups of coffee and she started really coming on to me and I didnt know what to say as she was sort of involved with someone and plus she was drunk. So I whent over to the sink and started washing her dishes for her LOL...

I washed a big pile of dishes for her and dryed them and put them away, and kissed her good night and left.

That was a wierd night!

She told all my friends as well so now I get messages on my cell phone saying are you free for some dirty dishes tonight Simon and stuff like that......

LOL

anyway Glad to hear you had a nice thanksgiving sweetheart xx

Ms Young.....

Yes I was in Ireland a ways back there.... it is not every day someone offers to send you a postcard from Ireland either! or wash your dishes for you for that matter.

The next place I will be going to this year I would think, will be Canada, Victoria BC to visit my Family again and see some old friends for Christmas, but I have not decided yet just considering it at the moment.

I will probably decide the day before I go if I go... it is only 6000 miles what the heck EH!

So I can send you a postcard from there if you like....

are you planning on going anywhere nice or have you been anywhere nice then Donna?

Ireland is a very special country, it is well worth a visit.

Love Simon xx

Simon... dish's done; but dripping dry; not towel drying; just tooooo many!!

Well, aren't you the polite gentleman Simon!! I am quite proud of you, for not taking advantage of a drunk woman!! Doing her dish's was a wonderful gesture too! wowzers!!

u r 2 sweet!

Love,
North

Simon..you..applepie..you!
;)
Love, Passion,

Dear ibrh: I didn't quite understand it. It was hard to believe for me when I was talking with other intent blogger about you, but the theory of possibilities always works.

Time on our side, it comes out very well. thank god, I didn't rule you out in the possibilities. With me ibrh? Hard to understand. I will find it out. Heather is going to be mighty disappointed in you. Poor woman, such a loving compassionate one, I wonder why she has to get into such things.

Love,
June

Dear Waylay,

Friendship needs wings of sincerity to fly! How true is that.

Loyality is a very important part of friendship. I do not know how much you understand any of that.

Plz skip this part(foreign language): Natho ala matladathau ra. believe cheya leka poayanu, kaani nuve adhi..master ay poyava controlling ib? ah super powers lo immerse ay poyavu nuv. emi teliyadu katha gurunchi kani gudda lo chey patinav, dushman unte maaf chese vadni, dosti peru lo bamboo estau ra. chusdam katha ekad pothadhi ipudu.

June,
Did you star gaze last night?
I did too.
After dancing,
of course!
~ Kate

Yes Kate, I did.
My favorite activity
Connecting with God
And also Very romantic
As it was in Titanic

Did you dance by yourself or what?
U stay cool there.

I'm focussed on a small mission now. Someone has backstabbed me hard. He shouldn't have done that with me in the name of friendship.

Will talk to you later. Let me be focussed on this.

Love,
June

Hi Simon,
Your card for Mieke was terrific!
You are so talented.
And North too.

Have you been to Scotland?
bonne lass,
~ Kate

IBRH, here is a tricky situation and I come out of shadows to show my head if only to you. My star did not bring any good fortune. My duty is not forgotten and my message is naked without wit. My tattered love should not be confused with friendship. My duty and love is on an unequal ground. I walk the night in my nakedness. I put on my tattered clothes in the daylight. Yes, I shall cover my face in the veil of my love and I wouldn’t show my head.

love, Heather

Thanks Kate...I thought Simon's crafty birthday surprise to Mieke, was awesome too!!

Heather,

You're one wonderful example of, what it means to be Immersed in love and compassion. Love passed on should always be received well. If one doesn't know the value of love, then it becomes useless, one has to give a serious second thought.

See if you can instill, to let him know of his boundaries that will be fine, which he thinks he can control others boundaries and it's a god given right. I may reveal everything about him later on, but for now will wait. About the right, it is as though he knows the whole of everything and can decide.

To Ibrh...nee mind lo em undhi telyadu, peace di way teskunte manchide, crossing swords aithe, fine. cutting atta aipothundi.

Peace,
Obro

IBRH, you still have to show if you are worthy of respect, then you can dare to talk about your feelings of love, while standing on an equal ground. Till then go away and don’t show your head even if your resolution is doubted.

Heather

Dear IBRH

I'm in a strange mood -- I have some crises brewing in my life, and I need to talk to my guy about some of this stuff. Please forgive me if I seemed rude in my previous comment. And I was preoccupied with writing a better take on that sonnet 26. I'll post it in a sec. Til that sec or two, please be patient with my mood 2-nite -- aaj ki raat.

love, Heath (no -er aaj ki raat)

Dear IBRH, so sorry for such a rough interpretation of that sonnet. Here's another try:

Sonnet 26

Lord of my love, to whom in vassalage
Thy merit hath my duty strongly knit,
[You rule me, because of my love for you, and the good qualities I see in you.]

To thee I send this written embassage,
To witness duty, not to show my wit:
[I mean it -- this is no exaggeration or b-s on my part.]

Duty so great, which wit so poor as mine
May make seem bare, in wanting words to show it,
[My sense of loving commitment to you is such that these words really don't say it properly...]

But that I hope some good conceit of thine
In thy soul's thought, all naked, will bestow it;
[...but I hope that, in that part of your mind where you don't hide from yourself, your good thoughts for me will make up for what I can't express with enough skill.]

Till whatsoever star that guides my moving
Points on me graciously with fair aspect
[Maybe in the future, I'll find a way...]

And puts apparel on my tatter'd loving,
To show me worthy of thy sweet respect:
[...to tell you of my love, in words that are worthy of you, and of whatever good thoughts you have for me...]

Then may I dare to boast how I do love thee;
Till then not show my head where thou mayst prove me.
[...when that time comes, I'll boast of my love openly.
Until then, I'll hide from you, because my words are really not yet worthy to tell you how wonderful you are.]

Wasn't Shakespeare a wonder?

Ah, sweet mysteries of life, to misquote an old, old song...

love, Heath

Though I must say, I was kinda dense to drop that great second-to-last last image in my first rough version, of covering my face with the veil of my love -- that was a really good one, and if I could come up witha few more of those, maybe I could dispense with S.26 altogether, and just boast of my love right now. And the image is perfectly in keeping with Suchitra's friend's photo, too!

Casting pearls before swine! LOL!

Ji haan! :)

love, Heath

Dear lord of my love

I would be most happy if you would scribble some grafitti on my Typekey profile. If you have any way of doing so, that is. Any old thing will do. I've missed your playfulness, you've been very serious, too much so, recently. And too too hidden. This is not a trap. As always, I tease, but sincerely. If you've gone out for a walk, or you're not in the mood, or whatever, I understand.

And after all, the Peace column reminds us how important the important things of life are. Did you read Shekhar's thoughts about Korea and China, btw? I was hoping he'd post it here, too, but I guess he thought it wouldn't fit into the Peace column too well.

love, Heath

Let's pray for peace and dream of peace in our peacful sleep. Good Night.

love, Heath

Dear Heather,
Have you had the chance to drink in the fresh autumn air, and the bright waning moon glow?
Don't miss the chance, if you can.
Forget all just now, politics
and sonnets.
Breathe.
Eyes open.
Walk
with music
in your
Being.
With love,
~ Kate

Heather,
Rest well.
In sleep,
the
dreamless state
is
peace
full.

Awake
fresh and
New.

Love,
~ Kate

Dear Kate

Yes, it was a gorgeous night...
Holding hands with politics,
playing badminton with sonnets,
these were part of my walk.
Shaking off tensions, you see.
You must see
or you would not
have counselled me to dance.
Thank you, sweet Kate.
Love, and a hug and kiss,
Heath

Dear Kate

Glad you are there to watch over. I just had this thought that we should all walk with Kate tonight, when I bid a Good Night before I saw your comment!

love, Heath

And so, dear lord of my love, I will your counsel take as well, and rest my cheek upon my pillow, and close my eyes in a few moments. Have a great day in the sun. Peace to you. But I need to dance a bit first, per Kate's advice, maybe to Aaj Ki Raat, which I still like for dancing. I'd love to know how you sneak those comments in there that way.

Good night all, dear loves, all of you readers out there.

And obro, peace, dear one.

love, Heath

Yes, l-o-m-l, I second your motion to walk with Kate tonight, I know you love her, too. Now pls stop for a few sec's so I'm not tempted to hang around, yaar.

love, Heath

Dear Heather,

I doubt very much if what I've spoken or you've has gone into the head of your lord of love. When I'm serious, I'm dead serious. no jokes, just mean business. I say what I mean and mean what I say. no beating round the bush stuff. I've said enough of what I had to.

beedia, nee earlier posts chedvanu. Only a handful of people had that audacity and senselessness to speak that way to me. rathri daka chustha, leka pothe nee katha na katha. hyd'bad vodwe aa ra nuvu, siguledura waka, ade city wadtho ala madladadanki.

Good luck.

Dear Heather,
I pray you are in sleep, resting in wamrth and free of any turbulent thoughts which tempt to keep you awake.

I send my prayers and know I am watching over you through the night, and the monring which beckon to you, fresh and ready to go.

I love you,
~ Kate

Dear Waylay:

Friendship needs wings of sincerity to fly! How true is that.

Loyality is a very important part of friendship. I do not know how much you understand any of that.

This is what has been hard to understand. In many of the posts, we have mutual admiration for our ways of reasoning. It is very clear to me that you are dot. You maybe able to fool others, but not me!!! how and why you used that language against me. If so, at least an indirect sorry would have been fine for me. In such matters, I'm never hasty. I take my time and when I think is "The Time" then I release it.

(Poi Poi natho chesthvi ent ra nuv, karna laga arjun tho petkuntav ent ra nuv, ne powers gurunchi telsu naku, nadi vakate power conscience&truth, conditions daniki support chesthe none can beat that, if unfair conditions then none can help me, vaka bujji sorry chepesthe, maybe I'll let it go, not sure though)

Truly!

avez-vous la nouvelle musique, aujourd'hui, cher j-f? eh?

Je vous observe, chaque jour :)

Quelle music?

oops...Heather, I just noticed it was addressed to jf

Kate, North

Yeah I am not just a pretty face you know!

LOL it was my pleasure to write a nice birthday tribute for such a wonderful lady as Mieke.

Whey aye I have been to Scotland Bonnie Lassie Kate. many times, seeing as I was born less than 70 miles from Scotland, I was in Scotland on Monday morning just gone In a place called St Abbs on the eastern coast Gallow shields, very beautiful part of the world it is, there are great castles and beaches and little fishing villages all the way up the coast to the Great city of Edinburgh.

I have not really been all over Scotland to be honest I have been to Glasgow a couple of times and Edinurgh and places but there are lots of wonderful places to go see up there, and the Jocks are very friendly folk, My Son is named after the Scottish Isle of Lewis.

One of my favourite poems is a Poem called Flannan Isle, which is a small Island off the Isle of Lewis way out there in the lonely Atlantic
Ocean.

http://www.potw.org/archive/potw230.html

you can read it on there...it is a poem about a true storey. I hope you enjoy it.

Love Simon xx

Hi Simon,

Great poem!
Is Mull of Kintyre of Paul McCartney also referring to this island with the lighttower?

That song is one of my favourites :)

HI Simon.. you have a son named Lewis? Of course you are not just a pretty face(smiles) but, also a beautiful soul!!

Mieke, I love Paul McCartney's song: Heaven on a Sunday.... his son plays guitar with him, on that one.

With loving kindness,
North

waylay: dot katha naku telyadu? nuv chepu. nen vinta. I'll give away my life for objectivity. Sometimes, coz of time and energy restraints, I cannot do full justice, I do make errors. But, I'll never get defensive. If I'm wrong, will quickly accept it, I don't use that rotten defensive ego to suffer for days and days. that's one of my big strengths. dot katha chepayi, then you do what is rt I will do what is rt. Let's do it quickly now, and move on. thx!

Dear waylay: Yes, the mutual admiration we had for our analysis and insights we did express.

Humans with a mind
Also possess a heart
It's true that in Objective analysis
One has to completely numb the heart
So that there is no element of bias.

But for a healthy living and a healthy mind one has to keep the heart happy! For you.

Plz skip: ( nuv dot, just like mohinder suresh madladyavu, nee ani id's almost not all telsu naku starting from hypocrite/omar.k then from shehnaz to shaheed khan..velaki telyadu, valu ankuntar shaheed khan ye ravi, lol! tarvatha delete ban chesin tarvatha, might have been badly depressed, reentry fresportra. munud id's lo earnest and ernesto, "uttar" to vako soft corner neeku, aame gudda lo poi kucho radhu, entha pedha donga munda undhi nek ek telsu. koyashi kabashi ayaashi evuru? only one master can do. other than u, enku everu leru nee anth calibre vadi. nee real life peru gautam buddha per, occupation place adhi guda telsu naku. idhi first neeku chepthuna katha, so that neeku telvale naaku antha telsu, nenu "kotha" laga bs'ing cheyanu. Mana mata clear strong untundi. tels haithe tels, leka pothe telyady, vada laga acting cheyanu nenu. na gunde lo badkow neeku dost laga petyanu ra, neeku chepyanu na per ki suli lo kalpaku ra ani, aiyna kani dot laga vachi chesnavu, manny most likely nuve, inka evr ki antha calibre undhi, none can match u in calibre aa subject matters lo. idhi vaka 70% katha nedhi, adhi hacker katha chepaledu, ila undhi katha, vaka bujji prema tho sorry chepeste...nuv guda anandam ka ikadu vila gudda lo bamboo estha undu, nenu real life lo puku lo petha untha, aa deal inka open undhi neetho, coz vaka soft corner undhi neetho entha aina, vaka ganta lo ala chepeyi)

Love..Obro

Step by Step
Mile by Mile
Whose song?
Whitney houston.

Light enters to clear the darkness. I thought about it.

Ok, this is how it is: I will probably clear it up in chunks. Will try to clear some doubts for whoever donatella kate heather d.young oh navin most imp person. It's a long story, but will be helpful to Ib, I think. Dot is my friend waylay/innocent victim who is also the Great Keyser koze. He spared almost none. His other id's are abhay/fresportra/earnest. His mentality, why and how he does will tell you soon after this. In post#174, I have talked abt his several id's, you can get an idea from there too, but now will be all open. All about ibrh. Questions welcome.

Dear Obro,
Does this have to do with aliases or the IBRH?
I don't know.

You're rt on Donatella. Someone who was becoming the Impostor for so many.
For a while,
it was fun
for me and heather.

But in between I began to see a heartlessness and crudeness. He didn't spare me. He spoke really ill of me, not just one time but many times. Many a times he became june rehan and heather which we clarified. He crushed navin almost by getting into his site. the Keser soze. He has complete control over the typekey thing. The fake stan was him, not only that, but he's the one who crushed aj. I was thankful to him for that, but he spares none. the moment I realized that, I began the search. Will tell more....Ib will be clear of this monster of a hacker now.

How long will you deceive?
waylay/innocentvictim/abhay
Oh he was fearless
No bhay in him

The way I knew quite a lot about you, especially in the past was thru being in touch with Ravi. He used to tell me all his id's then. The remaining ones had to be urs. I was shocked then there cud be an Omar khayam who cud deliver like Ravi. You cut Navin and Heather to pieces then. U started with me first.

The reason why I'm telling this is....this is his long story. I really thought AJ was doing it in the recent for me. TO my utter shock I realized, he was not into such things. It was this man. My God!! The reason why I used to call him a master mind. He was mohinder suresh. Remember that?? One who has very good knowledge abt cricket. the same had creeped into dot's post. No one else cud have done that other than him. He didn't spare me, that's what is unbelievable. He doesn't really care for feelings. he's totally into mind. Objectivity. Which I'm too fond of. On those counts we have admiration for each other. the why and how will also tell.

Listen baby
If you really
were not that
You would've told me

As a friend

After all we had great conversations. We are so like minded in our analysis. U never take others seriously. Waylay/IV/Abhay/Summersun/ Parallel

Oh yes Evidence based! In the archives, u can find the evidence of our conversations.

Ok, the most imp point. But why?? why?? It took me about 20 days of research while having good contacts, especially Ravi. I had my doubts on him. So many times I suspected him then AJ.But Ravi told me clearly abt it. One great thing abt him is, he's loyal. He will never screw me publicly. Who are the other people who are capable of doing such great acts?? Pseudonyms, yes there are 3-4 people. You underestimated me, thinking that I'm like others. I'm very clear with my words and action. No discrepancy.

U have the conscience. It knows everything. A to Z. How long will u hide?? It will hurt you there, u yourself know what is the truth. U can dupe people for ages, but u can't dupe urself. Sooner or later, it will eat u up there. With time, everything will come out well, oh the ibrh.

Dear Obro

I respectfully disagree with you on at least some of your conclusions, based on my intuition. Waylay has the intellect to be an IBRH, but the flavor of his mind feels different to me.

Also: I have long felt IBRH was your friend, despite harsh-seeming words he sometimes uses. You need to look at long-term intent, not immediate style of communication. If you want me to back up my argument, I will write up an analysis of some past communications that we both agree came from IBRH, and then perhaps I can convince you that he is your friend.

He is my friend, too. If IBRH was behind attacks on me in the past, that is water under the bridge. He has been nothing but kind to me as a rule, and very funny often, too. When he's been mean, I could see that he thought he had reasons to be so.

If IBRH wanted to harm anyone, he could easily have done it. Yet he hasn't. Because of my childhood, I have a well-developed sense of danger -- when it's present and when it's not. I sense no danger from IBRH. I sense a person who likes harmony, friendship, fun, poetry, music and mystery, who also likes to puncture egos from time to time, and I can personally attest to what a healthy thing that is.

IBRH, whoever he is, is OK with me. That's why I asked him to read Sonnet 26. Being a man of mystery and mastery, he doesn't get the recognition he'd deserve if he lived openly on IB. I wanted to give him some well-deserved recognition. In western culture, a man who does good deeds behind a mask, and is labeled and mistaken for a villain, is a well-known and beloved character type. Robin Hood, etc. This is how I see IBRH.

I'm sorry to disagree with you, but I am who I am. Besides being someone who disagrees with you on this issue at the moment, I'm your friend, too.

love, Heath

This is quite simple Heather. I wud never say a bad word about Ravi. He's been my robinhood. He's been ever so nice with me...becoz we are like minded in our reasoning just like waylay and his innumerable aliases. But? Ravi screwed so many out and out. Ask Navin...what he did, ask kate how he hurt her that day..ask me how he back stabbed me, not you. Get that straight. I'm not neither are u me. That's we differ but otherwise great friends. True.

You do know, I'm good at logic and deducing. this cud be my test, will show and it will be test for the criminal mind of ibrh, which MOST WILL AGREE but not Dear Heather, who otherwise is an Extremely loving woman. We three know where all ibrh has used the Impostor. Don't we?? Or DO I have to get the evidence for that? No. that's way too too rough.

It will help IB, if we find out more abt him. MAny will agree on that, except you Heather. It will come out gradually, as said.

It wud just be fine if other readers can carry on their show at ib. plz set this aside. it will get clarified soon and I reckon this will be neat and only Greatly benefit IB and its readers.

Strange, this time I'm working for the admin. as I'm out to get the ibrh, becoz I've so closely dealt with him. no assumptions here, will show the logic at every step. It does require sharp focus and concentration, but am willing to do it for sometime. The admin wud know quite a lot thru' the ip addresses of the impostor of june rehan and heather...which the impostor the hacker so cleverly used. Any one of the aliases of waylay matches that one. that's it. Sealed. Which are the aliases of waylay, that I Can easily prove with evidence from the archives. It is very difficult to beat Truth. Only if conditions favor can u beat it otherwise truth wins with ease.

Alaunte...chepayi na email id meeda chepayi obrokanthze@yahoo.co.uk it can be clarified there.

Love...Obrokanth

Waylay,innocentvictim,earnest, Ernesto, omarkhayyam, shaheedKhan, Abhay, Dot etc etc… may be the Hacker. IBRH. No proof is needed if you have faith. Heather, Donatella, Navin believe me.

#191 is not me. Not an easy battle with this man! Rest all before of today are me.

Bonjour!

I understand the very interesting things written here, but my english is too poor to write myself!
Very good for my ego...
But I need help for something special:
Till beloved Baba Hariharananda has gone, I lost contact with swami Vidyadishananda Giri
Who heard of him?
Who could help me to contact him?
What you know, even very few is very welcome!
Merci beaucoup!