Margot Anand - November 24, 2006
Have you noticed the difference between the French and the American way of perceiving the relationship beteen sex and politics ?
The French people’s reaction to the sexual adventures of their politicians is starkly different from the United States where an extra marital adventure is considered to be a sex scandal which can threaten to bring down a government.
Imagine the good that could have happened if the 60 miilion dollars spent to try to figure out whether Clinton did it with Monica L. or not, had been spent on Health and Education !
In France, sex and politics are intermingled and it is an accepted fact. French President Francois Mitterand, for instance, had a mistress and a daughter born out of wedlock, while married, and father of a legitimate son. They all showed up next to each other at his funeral. In France the concenssus seems to be that a successful politician is also a seductive politician. Sex is, some say, almost a “civic imperative” !
President Valery Giscard d’Estaing is quoted as saying : “when I was president of the Republic, I was in love with 17 million French women... When I saw them in the crowd, they felt it and then they voted for me.” Fancy Bush saying that!!! It is an understood fact in France that “Good politicans love and are loved”. The French don’t really mind if a leader has extra marital affairs, as long as he is a good leader, It is his business. In the USA, leaders have to “walk the line” ... “or else” !
In ancient China, the emperors had nine concubines and it was believed that practicing the tantric arts in the bedchambre (transmutation of sexual energy into clear awareness and bliss) brought power and made one a better leader. In many countries, it was, and still is considered that , to be a good leader, one needs many sexual partners and lots of love making.
I went to Bhutan, where the King is married to four gorgeous princesses (now Queens)...all four, sisters ! And in Bhutan, probably the last Tantric Kingdom on earth, women legally have the right to marry up to four men. Alleluia, there is hope yet !
Let’s all vote to have a “National Orgasm Day” during which everyone stays home and makes love ! Let’s surround the planet with orgasmic energies... What a healing ! Would killings and war stop if everyone made love on a regular basis ? Aren’t people raping other people during wars, because they are sexually frustrated and they have not been shown how to connect sex and heart ?
Happy Thanks Giving !
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Posted by Margot Anand at November 24, 2006 10:12 PM
in America, hypocrites want saints to be politicians...and any slight misgiving is exploited to the hilt to kill a good man's chances...i think this crap has to stop...sex is where it's at. u can't suppress it. can u? Yeah! whoa! man! what?
Hi Margot,
One can see the positive effects of say european openess compared to suppression found in the US or Iraq. The bible belt areas in the US actually have greater violence then the liberal urban areas per capita.
Sexual repression is behind a lot of the conflict in the world. Conflict and stress render a society impotent and weak.
Guilt and shame around sex is used for manipulation and control by some institutions.
The Bonobos have a great and well demonstrated model for a peacful society. They use sex to counter aggression and the females are in charge. Feminine energy is not oppressed like it is on most of the planet. Some places worse than others.
Everyone gets laid, they share, and there is no fighting and violence.
Sex not war...
http://www.newswire.pro/Bonobos_end_to_conflict.htm
Or click my name.
National Orgasm Day?
Yawn...
Try again Margot.
Bill Clinton and Monica is soooo 1990's....
Thank you Margot! That's so refreshing! I agree to National Orgasm Day. Why not Yogi-one? Are you so attached to what's hip that you cannot see the good in a new light? Make love not war. I know that used to be hip. But, just think what a difference it would make, connecting sex to heart. :)
I didn't realize the French have such "good" leaders
And rape is caused by sexual repression, hmmm.
Yes I think our political leaders should have more children out of wedlock, what a great message, and Polygamy and orgies, like icing on the cake !
Yogi I think I went into a 60's time warp, help!
Steve
Hi Margot,
Thanks for an interesting post, I'm all for National Orgasm Day :).
However, I think the whole Clinton sex scandal has been misrepresented. The actual impeachment happened because there were accusations that Clinton attempted to use the power of the Executive branch to trump the judicial system in the Paula Jones civil case. If that was the case, then the 60 million would be worth it. Clinton was accused of sexual harassment and perjured himself. The Monical Lewinsky affair had nothing to do with the impeachment, the fact that he lied about it in a court of law was the issue as it pertained to what he was accused of. And in fact I do think that a man that has the power to launch nuclear weapons should be held to higher standard than a guy that sells Earth Shoes.
I think it's fine that french officials sleep with whoever they want. I think sex is great and I agree with another poster here that says that repression is the cause of sexual crime. However when it come to politics, I think a lot of Americans think that if a politician can't keep a vow to the person that he loves the most, how is he to keep a vow to his constituency?
To me there's no great virtue in sleeping around. To me it's just hubris and a lack of discipline. Although both are rampant in politics, it doesn't mean that we should just give it the "okay", either with our officials or more importantly with ourselves.
Peace,
Scott.
PS - Regardless of the above comments I think it would be fun to take your course!
Thanks Scott for your clarity and diplomacy, you have great patience.
Hope you and Kristin had a wonderful Thanksgving.
Steve
Hi Margot,
Personally, I'm not concerned about the personal lives of political leaders, including their sexual escapades. However, I don't see the value in going to the opposite extreme and glorifying behavior that is potentially hurtful to others, particularly family and friends.
Love, Kristin
Hello Margot and Everyone
Margot writes,"Aren’t people raping other people during wars, because they are sexually frustrated and they have not been shown how to connect sex and heart ?
Men who rape, whether or not, it is during a war, are men who seek control and power through violence, and, usually, during a war, it is more so, because they can get away with it, without fear of punishment. Being sexually frustrated or repressed does not necessarily lead to rape, it more or less, just, leads to an unsatisfactory sexual life experience.
Margot writes,". In many countries, it was, and still is considered that , to be a good leader, one needs many sexual partners and lots of love making."
Having many sexual partners does not, at all, mean there is lot of "lovemaking" going on, it probably means there is a lot of masturbation going on, except, instead of using your own hands, you get to use another's body.
Most of the time sex is just sex, with very little lovemaking involved in the process.
The fact that one culture dismisses the sexual exploits of it's politicians and another doesn't can be interesting, but, most likely completely unimportant.
have a great day all, peace ruth
Sounds good on paper.
Hi Steve,
We did have a good Thanksgiving, hope yours was good too.
Love,
Scott.
Should't you be a bit more responsible before calling for a global orgasm? Such a thing has never been tried before (since night falls in different times in different places.) If the whole world were to experience a single global orgasm, why, anything might happen--the planet might explode, or we might find ourselves entangled in a single quantum state and every pair of lovers conciously stuck to the collective, forever.
You might want to be a bit more responsible before calling for planet-changing events like this one. There is just not enough scientific data to predict what will happen yada yada yada . ;)
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The negativity and the epithets attributed to sex and sexual love around the world points toward an almost bestial ignorance of life by us 'cultured' and 'intelligent' humans. The blissful state that results in our creation is not a subset of our lives but indeed our (and the universe's) very foundation.
"The negativity and the epithets attributed to sex and sexual love around the world points toward an almost bestial ignorance of life by us 'cultured' and 'intelligent' humans."~xyz
"incest", "taboo" in sexual love has to be accepted by our 'cultured' humans and incorporated as high morals.
"The blissful state that results in our creation is not a subset of our lives but indeed our (and the universe's) very foundation."~xyz
having sex with your mom or sister or daughter or a prostitute, can result in the creation of a baby who has as much right to exists in this world as any of you.
sex is our foundation which helps us to procreate and survive as a specie and evolve as a spiritual being with the attached love component. That evolution should not have any hindrance due to the 'culture' we have so far evolved. Our 'intelligence' should allow and encourage and advertise the freedom to have sex and explore sex from all angles be that be in politics, marriage, sexual love or anything else whatsoever to do with sex. That begins with having our culture rise up to encourage sexual love in all its forms.
Sex is love
and love is god
any form of sex is bliss
it is the basis of all creation
it is bestial to tell others from their high cultures
what sex is and how blissful it is
and which two individuals shouldn't have sex.
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Hi Steve,
We did have a good Thanksgivi
Absolutely, Margot...
Hi, good to see you here :)