This is so beautiful. thank you.

If living life is an art.

Then Appreciation Acceptance Non-resistance are the brushes with which to paint it.

I would venture that non-judgment fits in there as well.

If we live that that everything has a divine reason, for the benefit of the development of your consciouness, and that something greater than our limited linear conscious mind is handling the details and cooridination efforts, we should find it easier.

Also if we realize it is not possible to make a mistake, which may be hard for some to fathom. This is not so much for our benefit as it is for others.

I think some of you professional skeptics out there should practice a little appreciation for Dr. Chopra! He gives you a forum to express all of your doubts and feelings! He (cares) about your opinions.

Appreciation
Acceptance
Non-resistance

But what when other people keep dumping their
Karmic? Ego negativity on your desk..?

Well,
you get better! in pro-activeness, but wouldn't it be nice to..

Love, Passion,

heck, 2007 New Year, New You!
http://www.instonenutrition.com/videos/stallone2.htm

Hello Deepak and Everyone,

I guess I am confused by this, Deepak writes"How, then, can we take one step toward uniting inner and outer? I believe that the inner world will never match the outer world without proof. Nobody wants to believe that bad things (missing a train, losing a job, breaking a leg) are a reflection of their inner world. So let's turn things around and ask the inner world to benefit us by affecting the outer world positively"

I think saddness, anger, joy, grief, etc. are reflections of our inner world. But, missing trains, losing a job, and breaking a leg are not. I jump for joy and trip, breaking my leg. I am so angry I kick a rock and break my ankle. I am so happy looking at books I missed my train, I am so angry I refused to leave on time to catch my train. Breaking my leg was the best thing that ever happened to me, I had a great vacation recovering. Missing that train saved my life. Lost that job and found a better one.

I do not look at someone who has a life situation with seemingly no negatives as proof of a wonderful inner life.

On the journey of the soul there are many stops along the way, the city of ease and comfort maybe your stop at this moment, the city of pain and sorrow and the city of sickness, maybe just aroung the corner on the highway of the soul. I wouldn't give too much attention to missed trains, broken legs, lost unemployment, great job, great wealth, lots of good healthy living at anyone point in time, it could all change in an instant and then your soul is off on the highway of experience.

peace ruth

If all we did was look for things to appreciate what a beautiful life we would have. For the universe would be excitedly sending us more things to appreciate.

I appreciate the teachings and wisdom from Deepak and all of you here it is such a wonderful forum for like minded souls.

I always know when I am connected to my inner being because I get goosebumps all over. She lets me know if what I am doing is in harmony with my true self. And when I am in harmony wow outrageous joy:)

But on a personal note..Deepak, reading Arsenio's
in the Alliance Newsletter..

my god..
unbelievable..

Sure am, appriacted of, just being here.

Seriously,
Love, Passion,

It has been fun and interesting playing with the scientists but I want to say:

"what we have is much more than they can see"

and I appreciate them for bringing me closer to my inner being.

Thank you Deepak for being on the leading edge of thought and sharing it with the world.

Ps. Deepak.. I'm gonna get my princess..
sooner or later..

I don't believe in coincidences, myslef, too..
I'll post some pictures, on my photodiary,

But I do, must say, seeing you, in Amsterdam, in the musical breaks, you were just relaxing, enjoying, the songs, and watching.., did you saw the princesses.. around you..?, unbelievable,

Seriously,
Love, passion,

yeah, yeah, I've read that secret, one's inner world, and outer.., but the thing is, you can, like give, draw, order, import, export or paint a picture of a Polish cheescake.. some girls..

Mhmmnn..

Love, Passion,

Dr. Chopra:

Very timely and very well put! These three resolutions are life changing!

Sir, do you mind if I can share these (in your words) with the readers of my blog? They would also be able to benefit from this wisdom. (I will of course, provide the link and the context).

Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com

Almost forgot..
here girls..,

the soundtrack,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoQdDVVd_GY

for 2007,
What was the first symptome of..

Heck, I gotta re-read Dale Carnegie, on that again, but..
;)

Love, Passion

LOL, Desh,
you asked for permission first..that means you're a gentleman, but let me, give you my book, of, secrets, in life, love, law or business, you act first, and pretend dumb later..

Trust me on that,
'the first-mover advantage, they call it de-facto, got my butt kicked, more, than, to, not too..

Love, passion

But who is the 'first mover' in flirting,
the man or the woman..

There should be laws against that..!
universal,

seriously,
Love, Passion

Ah, you people were under the Bush indoctrination.. almost forgot.. that same law applies, in politics.. trust me on that one..

Ltz,
i'm out for a beer,
Love, Passion,

Marek:

you are a funny man... I do that sometimes.. but I would rather not. Specially when it is about making some serious resolutions for the New Year! :-)

And about the "first mover advantage" - at the risk of being parochial - I can say quite comfortably that no other group of people know it better than the Punjabis in India. In a fight they start off with a slap and an abuse and then start to talk to the other guy. So, this blood makes you "Leap and then Look". No wonder the Pakistani leaders have always gotten the better of Indian leaders in the area of sheer one-up-manship.. their top brass which makes the decision has a very Punju mind!

... but then it is time for this Punju mind to start learning "Acceptance"! ;-)

Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com

Heya Desh,
me either, but that's what Karma dumped on my desk, so better use, and share..

Have no idea about that India, thing, but,
Polish and underdogs.. I have this passion for..

'Acceptence'..? maybe some day in my lifetime,
in the meanwhile I enjoy, my (*legal) Ego battles, but they get boring after some time,

seriously,
love those Indian women, though,
some good pie, sometimes,

oh, and those sari's..mhmmn..

Love, Passion

Dear Deepak,
Thank you for this beautiful post. It is uncanny how some words come up in my mind and then I see it in your messages, or somewhere else. This morning I was thinking of an "experiment" I wanted to share with my brother, and lo and behold, here you are taking about a New Year's Experiment. Last evening, I was thinking of using the word "revive", or "rejuvenate" or "renew" in a text I was writing, and here again, you talk about "reviving" the inner person.
Thank you and God Bless You for all you do...
Love, M:)

Yay, never mind those smelly old scientists who were s(c)ented to de-dogmatise us, eh Marek!

Ascent of man, Deepak...you're my champion!

Power to your elbows, everyone.

Ed.

Thank you Deepak! Yes, those are excellent inner skills to work on and very difficult, as I have discovered. I seem to have issues with the surrender part, as well as with the others. So this reminds me to keep at it, as I do see results when I accept and stop resisting. For example things and situations start to flow smoothly and life becomes easier and more natural. But I cannot seem to stay with it when a rock falls on me ... ouch! Will keep trying...

Love,
Char

Dear Deepak,
thank you for this message, which feels nourishing to me. This is what I was feeling/saying in my response to the "hanging by a thread" post earlier. As the "outer" world becomes more an more convoluted, my hope is that more and more people will try meditation, prayer, attuning the inner self to peacefulness.
thank you
helen

PS: And I know that I caused the rock to fall upon me as well :-) So that's when I need to ask why? Therefore, this is what I have been doing ... watching and studying, sort of like an experiment. It's really very facinating and a lot of fun to see what is going to happen by a thought, event, or action, etc; and then to try and figure out the who, what, and why.

Love,
Char

For example: Since I have been late many times for work these last few years (never was before) and after I moved in July, my phone would ring every morning at the right time to alert me to idea that it was time to leave the house. I discovered that I did not really care that I was late and might be holding an unrealistic belief that I hate my job, when in fact my job may be perfect for me at this time. Anyway I turned off the ringer to my phone as I found it annoying and I am trying to get to work on time ... somewhat.

Another example: Since it is cold and I don't want to get up in the morning to go to work, my heater has been coming on right before I get up (I don't have a timer on the control). So when I am done with my prayer and Bible reading, the house is warm. However, this morning it did not come, so I wondered why. But when I got up and touched the heater control and it came on.

One more: If I am in deep thought, which is usually in the car to and from work, many times the radio plays songs that match my thoughts. My son has this happen to him as well and the last time was when we had talked about two hours and I said I was boring my self and his dog yawned and then the radio said what my son said to me.

There's a lot more, but these I believe are just simple examples of consciousness and what Deepak might be talking about, or has talked about. So that's what I call being in the flow. I know, not much of anything, but being aware makes more things happen as Deepak has told us...and it's true. So I am interesting in creating more positive and uplifting things in my life and the lives of those around. Cus ... what else is there to do anyway? I want to make things that I can take with me when I leave this physical body...sort of like building my treasure in heaven (or the heart) ... so to speak.

Love,
Char

So ... my last post at the moment as I need to get back to work .... I have been asking God to show me what I can take with me when I die, i.e., I want to know what is truly valuable (what is real and what is unreal). This has been one of my recent desires. Maybe it's just another attachment. Who knows, but it sounds like I will have attachments anyway when I move on.

Love,
Char

I should be in bed by now, really, but I had to get drunk, with some..it's a karmic/social thing, nevermind, I'll sweat it outin the gym and sauna tomorrow in da morning,

anyhow, you know what we should do, guys, a palmread, thread, everybody makes a picture, and we get an expert, to, read, now that'll be fun,

seriously,

love, passion

Crap, I'm still awake, but I do have a remedy,
;)
song,
;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH4j2TIbdvA&mode=related&search=

With Love, Passion,

Dr. Chopra: “Acceptance is a gesture of humility by which you acknowledge that there is more to a situation than your own small perspective. It involves asking to be part of the bigger plan.”

Here are two big plans. Sadly though one author was so convinced of his own big plan, he called the guy with the other big plan a bigot!

Deepak Chopra’s big plan:

“--Meditation will become mainstream.
--Aspects of the paranormal and miraculous will be widely credited.
--Healing, both physical and psychological, will become commonplace.
--Prayer will be seen as real and efficacious.
--Manifestation of desires will be talked about as a real phenomenon.
--People will regain a connection to their souls.
--Individuals will find answers inwardly to their deepest spiritual questions. They will believe in their private answers and live accordingly.
--Communities of belief will arise.
--Gurus and other spiritual authorities will wane in influence.
--A wisdom tradition will grow to embrace the great spiritual teachings at the heart of organized religion.
--Faith will no longer be seen as an irrational departure from reason and science.
--Wars will decline as peace becomes a social reality.
--Nature will regain its sacred value.”

Richard Dawkins’ big plan:

“I am optimistic that the physicists of our species will complete Einstein's dream and discover the final theory of everything before superior creatures, evolved on another world, make contact and tell us the answer. I am optimistic that, although the theory of everything will bring fundamental physics to a convincing closure, the enterprise of physics itself will continue to flourish, just as biology went on growing after Darwin solved its deep problem. I am optimistic that the two theories together will furnish a totally satisfying naturalistic explanation for the existence of the universe and everything that's in it including ourselves. And I am optimistic that this final scientific enlightenment will deal an overdue deathblow to religion and other juvenile superstitions.”

thank you Sir Deepak.

your post is pefect for my intentions for this new year.

Thank you.

Dear Skep

Open-mindedness and investigation are two aspects of the scientific approach to understanding the universe. In that spirit, why not try a session or two of meditation?

love, Heath

lady long grass...

sorry to say it but u are definitely not a breath of fresh air and u are trying way too hard to be an intellectual..but that ain't workin' too well either...now, now...how can u dare a fine gentleman to meditate? maybe that's ur cup a tea! no?

to the BIG TREE...by the quiet river...ditto.

now watch the two bruised egos squirm...hehehe!

Everything I ever really needed to be who I am, like I am, I must have actually received it - because here I am. This was as true when I slept under bridges (went cold and hungry, felt everyone I had relied upon had betrayed me) as it was when I slept in a nice warm house with a full belly. So there is always something for me to appreciate.
It took some effort in life for me to come to a place where I could accept this simple truth. For a long time, I wanted to be something other than what I was, so first I had learn something about self-acceptance. Then I had to try and apply that to accepting other people also. Learning something like this, for me, involved giving up the struggle to "make" things the way I "wanted" them to be. I don't think of it now as a one-time deal, however. For me these are "repeater lessons" I have to constantly re-learn pretty much on a daily basis. It's a continuing process, a way of life.
Today I don't worry too much, for example, that people will try out some conservative political ideas and these will work so well for them that society will permanently shift in that direction. Conservative solutions will either work to solve people's problems or they won't. If they do work, why should I be upset? If they don't, then people will obviously and ultimately move on to some other set of ideas that offer more promise.
So you see, the "fabulous success" in recent times for conservatives in the US was their great undoing. Sure, it's great I think to advocate your alternatives, if that's part of who you are, then do your thing, with gusto if you please. In fact, don't be too surprised in the process if you find me in the trenchworks as well. After all, I'm just accepting that as part of who I am and what I'm supposed to be doing. In a way, the big difference for me really has been the spiritual state of my mind about it, not the substance of my being. In other words, the focus is on correct behavior (for me), not the results.
But all this spiritual stuff for me is not a contest to be the "most spiritual". If somebody else wants that hat, then let them try to wear it - all I need is just enough, thank you.

Dear Diablo

You're welcome to accept the dare, too. Betcha never did it -- as yet.

That your intelligence tries to assign the label of intellectual to me is an interesting concept. That the winds of my spirit bring you no refreshment may be due to your being a little too cold about life, despite your relative youth. And thus the laughter, which sometimes sounds like a snob -- whoops, I meant sob.

L'herbe longue, ou un coeur in hiver? Mais non, jamais, je suis une fleur de amour.

love, and a hug and kiss (of remorse for your momentary twinge of anger and discomfiture upon reading this, but whatcha take the right to give ya also gotta learn to have the grace to take), Heath

The inner reflects the outer.

Does this apply to society?

If we went deeply into the interiors of our drives, motivations, etc. that are in-tune with society's aspirations, what would we find?

It says a lot that we think we can fix global warming like a car engine. We feel confident and in control. Few publicly step back and realize the size and depth of the issue.

I think we would find that our social interiors are out of line with the truth of reality. And thinking that we can fix Nature, something alive, like we can the 'environment,' a concept, reveals that we are out-of-sync on a grand scale with the truth of the situation.

It would be scary to confront how large our pickle is.

I don't think we can stop climate change. But maybe we could save human society if some deep thinking started now, before our illusion of the Earth as a car engine is shown for the folly that it is.

So, been to a esoteric bookstore today,
for the vibes.., what I hoped for, wasn't there, but what did caught my eye..
..

Maybe girls, I'll..;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o-dPB3ZA0A&mode=related&search=

Love, Passion, have a great saturday, y'all,

Funny I was just talking about the same subject the day before Deepak posted on the same subject.

www.drdeepchop.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Dear Sun Warrior

I know it's NPI on your part, but I can't stop laughing at your...

"It would be scary to confront how large our pickle is."

love, Heath

What I wouldn't give to have Rachel Macfarlane's voice.

LOL, hgquinn, perhaps there was something in my Freudian 'pickle' slip...

Isn't there something about the masculine imbalance that is keeping society from achieving some harmony?

Perhaps if we pull the pickle out of the jar and examine it, it might not be as big as our imagination fears it might be...

Laughter is quite often the best remedy to fear and denial...

Someone has a pickle up there butt today, I see.

Remedies for constipation can be found everywhere.

Remedies for idiocy and resentful judgment calls

are to be found inside the grunge of the grudge.

He who smelt it dealt it.

You're cuttin' a groove, Diablo.

Better go! Weeping Willow

I am, seriously..! on the mailinglist of, that Alliance thing, thing, none of my buddies really, care, marek, so what? big deal? whatever!

I am freakin' proud! (you shoulda know, the backgrounds of some..peers..? they busted the improper, eeuh improbability.. allright!.., but..

Tell you some other time..

damn..

unbelievable..

Anyhow,
..
guys, if you have some ideas,
I'll be reading.., if there is anything we can do,..
(*besides impreses, eeuh.. princesses.. ;)

life, love, ..I put my,.. on the polish folks, anyday, but..

Organisation skills, are NOT! their Karmic..talent.. just, saying..

Love, passion,

hey babe,
are you reading..
;)
so, the.. Polish.. was..

;)
http://teledyski.onet.pl/10176,1270850,teledyski.html

Buzka,
marek

here, babe,

http://teledyski.onet.pl/10176,1689077,teledyski.html

Translate that..
Love, Passion,

What the ULFA is going on?????

Sad. Interesting. Hmmm . . .

Peace

Heya, deepak, don't kick my ass, for chasing some princesses, on these blogs..

Gentleman's agreement!,
ask your lawyers,
for,

love, passion,

So, kiddies, here's my little secret, numero..
2 or 3.. in my diary, trust me on this, that, here it is, entrepreneurs, change their life-agenda almost, utmost everyday, seriously, depending, on..(*let's call it.., I'm thinking; 'dudes! you are not normal!', they look at me as if I'm from another planet..

Seriously,

love, passion,

Ps. Deepak, before tucking in, and dreaming of some princesses..

With the Alliance thing, in Poland..,
let's, just.. call it solidarity, thing..
and ..
;)

Love, Passion

Well, as, in the movie movie, A few good men..,
Couldn't..;)

Some kicked ass,
some got their ass kicked,
some watched..

some..

What was the moral, of the story..,

In the Dutch country..?,
mhmnn..

;)

Love, passion

Just for the..

girl..

Download some, Beyonce's,

..
wich song..?

ltz,
love, passion

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Subject: How To Make Her Think About You
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Well..babe.. go figure..
I am still awake, and you know what the doctors called it..DSPS, but I call them spiritual lol..

So,

You know my remedy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyqtsvQfPwE

I think Batman, know the comics?
also had a severe case,of sleep phase delayed syndrome, don't you think?

What would be the remedy..?

;)

Love, Passion,

Got the hint..soundtrack..? girls..

Love, Pasion,
marek

you know guys, I'm like, re-watching my, photo-blog cq diary, with a some Sophie B. Hawkins, on the background...besides the color green.., what captures, my atttion.. mhhmnn.. let's call that
2007!

Love, Passion,
marek

The Experiment that can never be, this New Year.

CAUTION: This is only a hypothetical observation by Dawkins that demands that we don't kill, compared to the ongoing massive moral imperative to kill without regret.

some of you may be more inclined to see a study of the political and social environment in which tyrannical thugs, which are dime-a-dozen, can rise to power as more productive than trying to figure out what's going on in the head of a petty dictator. we're also in the middle of demolishing that political/social environment and putting an even more pathological one in its place, so maybe Iraq is one big scientific experiment. Not a benign one like Dawkins' suggestion that actually makes an "excuse" for not killing someone, but a grand nation building experiment that in the mind of the anti-science right justifies mass murder and destruction.

Read this article:

Saddam should have been studied, not executed

Sparing Hussein and studying his makeup could have provided valuable research.
By Richard Dawkins

"These questions are not just academically fascinating but potentially of vital importance for our future. And they cannot be answered by prejudice or preconception or intuitive common sense. The only way to answer them is by research. It is in the nature of research on ruthless national dictators that the sample size is small. Wasn't the judicial destruction of one of the very few research subjects we had — and a prime specimen at that — an act of vandalism?"

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-dawkins4jan04,0,5577883.story

Nice discourse on Appreciation, Acceptance & Non-resistance. I read it and went straight to bed.

Dr. chopra what will be the afterlife of Saddam Hussein be like? Any thoughts about it? What if he is is reincarnated as your grandchild? What will you do? scary thought eh?...back to sleep.

Thanks Robert: Ref.: 54:

Here's that Richard Dawkins' article in its entirety:

Saddam should have been studied, not executed
Sparing Hussein and studying his makeup could have provided valuable research.

THE OBVIOUS objections to the execution of Saddam Hussein are valid and well aired. His death will provoke violent strife between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, and between Iraqis in general and the American occupation forces. This was an opportunity to set a good example of civilized behavior in dealing with a barbarically uncivilized man. In any case, revenge is an ignoble motive. If President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are eventually put on trial for war crimes, I shall not be among those pressing for them to be hanged.

But I want to add another and less obvious objection: Hussein's mind would have been a unique resource for historical, political and psychological research, a resource that is now forever unavailable to scholars.

Imagine that some science-fiction equivalent of Simon Wiesenthal built a time machine, traveled back to 1945 and returned to the present with a manacled Adolf Hitler. What should we do with him? Execute him? No, a thousand times no.

Historians squabbling over exactly what happened in the Third Reich and World War II would never forgive us for destroying the central witness to all the inside stories, and one of the pivotal influences on 20th century history.

Psychologists, struggling to understand how an individual human being could be so evil and so devastatingly effective at persuading others to join him, would give their eyeteeth for such a rich research subject.

Kill Hitler? You would have to be mad to do so. Yet that is undoubtedly what we would have done if he hadn't killed himself in 1945. Hussein is not in the same league as Hitler, but, nevertheless, in a small way his execution represents a wanton and vandalistic destruction of important research data.

He should have been locked up, by all means. He should have been kept in jail for the rest of his life, to be sure. But to execute him was irresponsible. Hussein could have provided irreplaceable help to future historians of the Iran-Iraq war, of the invasion of Kuwait and of the subsequent era of sanctions culminating in the invasion. Uniquely privileged evidence on the American government's enthusiastic arming of Hussein in the 1980s is now snuffed out at the tug of a rope (no doubt to the relief of Donald Rumsfeld and other guilty parties; it is surely no accident that the trial of Hussein neglected those of his crimes that might — no, would — have implicated them).

Political scientists of the future, studying the processes by which unscrupulous leaders arise and take over national institutions, have now lost key evidence forever. But perhaps the most important research in which a living Saddam Hussein could have helped is psychological. Most people can't even come close to understanding how any man could be as cruel as Hitler or Hussein, or how such transparently evil monsters could secure sufficient support to take over an entire country.

What were the formative influences on these men? Was it something in their childhood that turned them bad? Or in their genes? Or in their testosterone levels? Could the danger have been nipped in the bud by an alert psychiatrist? How would Hitler or Hussein have responded to a different style of education? We don't have a clear answer to these questions. We need to do the research.

Are there lots of Husseins and lots of Hitlers in every society, with most ending up as football hooligans wrecking trains rather than dictators wrecking countries? If so, what singles out the minority that do come to power? Or were men such as these truly unusual? What can we do to prevent them gaining power in the future? Are there changes we could make to our political.

Ron, this is really sweet :) Mr. Dawkins thinks that we need to study Saddam to understand criminal, violent, irresponsible behavior - when all we need to do is look inside :)

Magazines"..this is really sweet :) Mr. Dawkins thinks that we need to study Saddam to understand criminal, violent, irresponsible behavior - when all we need to do is look inside :)"

Awoke, I see you are having a sweet day at work. It isn’t that simple or practical Aurora. Why don't you look inside, and tell us all about it and save the resources, time and energy into enormous research in the fields of human behavioral sciences, psychology, sociology etc? If you look into what Dawkins is arguing here you will understand that he is arguing against the death sentence of Saddam Hussein, who was forced to lose his opportunity to look inside. Looking inside most certainly can help the person who practices it, using whatever means; meditation, psychoanalysis or by simple means of self-reflection, self-inquiry etc. But, it doesn’t help solve the practical problem of Evil we see around in the world. It can only console you and keep you sane, have fun and sweet thoughts in your secure home while you see devastation of homes elsewhere and you see moral justification for killing on TV and try to rationalize it or spiritualize it.

Robert Carl, in his post addressed the point about Dawkins' observation:

"some of you may be more inclined to see a study of the political and social environment in which tyrannical thugs, which are dime-a-dozen, can rise to power as more productive than trying to figure out what's going on in the head of a petty dictator. we're also in the middle of demolishing that political/social environment and putting an even more pathological one in its place, so maybe Iraq is one big scientific experiment. Not a benign one like Dawkins' suggestion that actually makes an "excuse" for not killing someone, but a grand nation building experiment that in the mind of the anti-science right justifies mass murder and destruction."

Hi David, thank you, I am indeed enjoying a sweet day at work :)

I am glad that you know that looking inside can help the person who does it, and you seem to be concerned that doing so will only create a pleasant, unreal world for the one who does it.

In my experience, it is not so. What I have discovered looking inside is that we all share the same human nature, so whatever I need to learn about evil and its causes will be more easily and thoroughly studied inside myself, compared to guessing and wondering what's happening in other people.

Looking inside myself, I have found the causes and structure of violence, of shelfishness, of hatred, of fear, of irony, of greed, of confusion and any other aspect of human nature that I would like to study. I have understood their roots and the way to heal them. I have understood that if I can heal the evil in myself, the world will be a little less evil. And in the process, I have also discovered that under all that "evil" I used to perceive in me and the world, there is sweetness.

So to me, dear David, it is obvious that if we want to truly understand the world, we need to understand ourselves. We are the world.

The rich and powerful, do not want the world to be a better place!! Then, there would be no jobs for doctors, lawyers, police, scientists, therapists, teachers, gurus, nurses, soldiers(who get a million dollars; if killed in combat), etc....

we PAY men and women to go die for us, to go kill for us... isn't that just a little disturbing?

Leaders want the world all frustrated and crazy; it keeps the people in line..and fearful--exactly what they want to exact!!

Saddam would have made a great field-study; to learn "how" a human being becomes a monster. But, we always kill them... I wonder why?

Aurora---we are not all monsters hiding inside; I completely disagree---however, if put in a life and death survival situation, our animalistic instincts surface--that is a natural-animal phenomenon, not monsterized like Saddam was.

I admit, every human has anger, hate and frustration; but, crossing the line to murder, is rare by comparison to the billions whom adhere to human traits and instincts of compassionate love.

I am sure, if the US hadn't been so blood-horny to kill Saddam so quickly... we could have learned the ins and outs of his insanity as a mass-murderering leader... I guess, now we'll never know what made him tick.

with loving kindness,
North

Dear North,

Saddam was no monster, there are no monsters. He was a human being, like all of us.

All I have to do to understand why Saddam has crossed the line to murder is ask myself what makes ME cross a line.

As long as I am unaware, I always do what everyone does in my family/society/culture. I keep up a behaviour regradless of how much other people tell me that I am crossing a line, and I am proud of myself for respecting the lines of my beliefs and traditions.

When I start to be aware that beliefs and traditions are not set in stone, then I will want to find out which "lines" are mine. Then I will also discover that I have a choice and I can choose which side of all the lines in the world I want to be on.

Saddam was a symbol of beliefs set in stone, OUR old beliefs. We have believed that taking other people's lives or imposing our will on another can be a good thing to do, under certain circumstances. We have tried out killing and ruthlessness in every possible situation, to see if it works. We have thought that it is always the other who is responsible for the behaviour. But we have all participated in it, and now is the time to start looking for an alternative to this belief. Like looking inside for example, and choosing peace :)

Aurora; being that Saddam was one man of billions, whom had the opportunity to unleash his dark side via governmental power; and old family wealth; we cannot for certain proclaim; if we had the power, that we would do the same as he did, or as Hitler did... to me, that is counting chickens before hatched, an empty presumption, and vast assumation??

I have never been in a position to choose life or death, evil or good; in that scenario; so surmizing I would become a Saddam, is perhaps prematurely diagnosed?

AS in any "thing" there are exceptions to any man-made, "thought-up" rule...

with loving kindness, thankyou for your thoughts; and it is nice to know, you appreciate mine.

North

What I appreciate most, North, is that you continue to remind yourself of the loving kindness inside you when you write your messages :)

Beliefs are just points of view that reflect where we are at the moment. If we are free enough to be able to move around in the field of mind, we can choose which ones to hold. And then we can choose beliefs that bring us closer to other people or beliefs that reinforce the conflicts. So the only thing important to me when I choose a belief is - does it make my heart open up or close down? It is the only reliable guide.

Do I feel better than "a Saddam"? No, I feel that whatever "a Saddam" is, exists in me. I don't need to deny it and project it onto others. It is up to me to express these tendencies, or not. It is up to me to realize that all people, without exception, are good, pure and innocent under all these confused layers of beliefs we harbor.

north says..."I have never been in a position to choose life or death, evil or good; ..."

north...u wanted to kill urself around xmas...does that apply...dearie? i know u are refering to a bad guy taking many lives but what about destroying one life...one's own life?

D.

Diablo--you seem to get a hard-on every week, bringing up my "feelings" of suicide last month??... there is a great difference in "being" suicidal and "feeling" suicidal.... also, there is a big difference in taking my own life, than in taking thousands of others lives??

I am so sorry, you are so unhappy Diablo, that you have to ridicule everyone at IB... including yourself... I am giving you a big hug, to ease your self-misery, as I "feel" more sorry for you, than I do for me... at least, even in my depressing state; I do NOT ridicule others(unless of course, they keep poking me to address them with my attention?)

with loving kindness,
North

Thanks for your #63, Aurora... Ancora Impera(wink)

with loving kindness,
North

for Diablo--> one further word:

"Tsonkwadiyonrat"

google it, if you dare...

it's north american Indian language(hint.)

north...

here...i am giving u a big hug back...(:)-(:)

Thankyou Diablo--I accept your hug, with glee!!

with loving kindness,
North

Dear Diablo,
Depression is sadly more common that we think. A recent study from Gothenburg showed that 60% of all women are depressed, that makes depression as common as the common cold... and I believe that many people who are not depressed, express their pain through aggression instead.

You are right, the thought of taking one's own life and the thought of taking another's life come from the same place - the confused mind. It is a place of deep pain, and I know it all too well myself. I have been depressed for a very long time without even knowing it, and the thought of suicide came very early in my life, as the only imaginable escape from a life I perceived to be unbearable.

Slowly, slowly, this thick veil of thought-patterns lifted, and at one point I realized that what I had thought to be the only way to see life... was only one interpretation, that kept recreating the same painful reality over and over. This interpretation was shared by so many others around me and had been given to me at birth... so imagine the feeling of discovering a completely different world, created by a completely different frame of mind!

Besides meditation, what lifted away the thick veil of the all too common human depression were these three keys that Deepak talks about - appreciation (or love, as it is also called), acceptance, and non-resistance.

I know that the hug you gave is one of the keys. Thank you.

Aurora... here's a hug for u too...(:)-(:)

Welcoming input, Aurora....

http://xs411.xs.to/xs411/07010/GUITAR2.DDS.jpg

made last night...

Thank you (((Diablo))). I can tell a wolehearted hug when I feel one!
:)

North, there's a promise of music in that picture :) You are really talented.

Thanks Aurora.. it's "all" I can do to keep positive-creative.. is make pictures... I was quite athletic up until 3 years ago, despite 7 bad discs... it was a great way to expell frustrations... that fall 3 years ago, did my body "in." My art-creation isn't the same release.. but, it does please my mind : )

girls.. they are clueless..!
seriuosly!

Deepak,
why is it that Matt Welsh, remember? from Weekly..Intentblog..? @
www.followyourpassiontoday.com

Check the link, I'm gonna be reading his blog,
Belive, he has a good, spiritual vibe,

anyhow,
And I just came back from the bar..

No princess..,

Kiddies,
http://www.musicovery.com/

Love, Passion,

http://xs411.xs.to/xs411/07021/CAGEDROADDDS2.jpg

Mieke's and Harb's "vision"

- my imagination to create the visual...

Aurora - this is how much, encouragment, can make a "flower" grow - as science and medicine has proven, through the "talk/sing to plants" method...same applies to humans(wink.)

singing, softness--evokes extrovertion
shouting, loundnes--evokes introvertion

I made that graphic just tonight, and 39 other variations "for" Mieke and Harb, to choose from, which must remain unseen for now..

all because, "they each" have a dream... and just because they think my art is great, I am part of it in a smaller way, through a pic or more

--how can I not want, to improve for them?(gentle smiles)which in their trust to do the project, I have grown... and found my talent/gift/mark/pleasure.

They, and many others whom encourage; are the mighty-blessed waters that nurtures the soil, which sprouts the seed, and evokes the sun's quest for life... to encourage growth upward.

with loving kindness,
North

This is wonderful....I'll do it for a month and then will write how it changed my life...As i'm a nurse and everyday i interract with different sets of people and sometimes it is just hard when you are having a really bad day and everyone is snapping at you from patient,patient's family,unit clerk,pharmacist,residents,cafetaria people,Doc's,charge nurse,house manager...Boy..i had a bad day at work..I hope at that darkest hour of my day i practise and follow these golden rules!!!!

Andaleeb:

Remember that even the DARKEST hour has only 60 minutes! :-)

Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com

Morning, guys,

Hey, I have qeustion, I remember, there was this, cool download thing for your cellphone, on the old Chopra website, whatever happened with that?

Anyhow just had my session, of morning, 'inspiration', some great ideas, how to deal with some Ego negativity on my desk, I'm off to the gym, do some, and later spamm some dutch morons, offline, heck, Karma.., Karma, might as well have some fun with,

But guys, positivity, and conditioning, that was a brilliant idea!, you had there, I remember,

Love, Passion,

Thanks Desh for reminding me....sometimes a minute looks like an eternity...

Happy new year....

Andaleeb:

I agree! :-) Wishing you and your family a very peaceful, contented, and happy new year!

Cheers,
desh

Happy New Year Deepak, Thank you for your post.
Simple, yet thought provoking passage.

To me, embracing non-resistance is about surrender to every moment, every deed, every thought, every obstacle from a place of the higher ego. But it's incomprehensible to believe we can maintain such a state of consciousness in today's modern chaotic world.

The lesson therefore being (assuming my missive holds true), due to the impossibility of outwardly reaching perfection, we are forced to surrender to the journey inward. That being said -I think 2007 is going to be quite the contemplitive year for those who resonated with non-resistance.

Love and Pranams, Judy

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