Vijay Sappani - February 15, 2007
Congratulations Canada! After many years of the global war on terrorism, you have been added to the list of targeted countries by Al-Qaida; well only because we supply oil to uncle Sam.
Two things that I would like to talk in this post, one the story on alleged threat by Al-qaida to Canada and two, the CBC poll with Muslim Canadians.
According to this story in Gazette an online posting by an Al-Qaida organization, Canada should be attacked for being the largest supplier of oil and gas to US.
As someone who grew up in a country that has been a victim of Islamic terror for decades and have lost friends to terror attacks, my opinion on this threat is clear:
Should we be concerned about it and increase intelligence and surveillance in the area? YES
Should we stop our oil and gas supplies to the US and look at other markets? HELL NO
US is our ally and best friend and we cannot and should not let the enemy scare us to divide the house. I(we) might not agree with everything the US has to say and do, but we should not let a terrosit sitting in a desert land decide how we do our business. As many have said on terror attcks on Canada, it is not a question of ‘if’ but a question of ‘when and where’. The previous assumed targets were Toronto and Montreal. Alberta is new on the watch list and looking at the global trend of Islamic terrorists, it is reasonable to take this threat serious. There is a changing trend to attack and disable economic centres and cause economic havoc in target countries in Asia, Europe and North America.
What do we do?
Increased surveillance and security measures to screen and do background checks on suspects and people in the area. Most of the recent attacks did not come foreign recruits, but home grown terrorists. Al-Qaida has been successful in the recent years in recruiting Muslims from East Europe or what they call “white Muslims”. There is an increased migration of construction workers in Alberta and many are without papers, something that has been debated for a while now.
Who might seem as an undocumented worker for one, might be an Al-qaida recruit planning an attack on us. So we need to create better awareness among employers, home owners and Canadian public in general. No intelligence force can thwart an attack without the support of public; in fact some of the successful arrests have been because of public information, mostly from patriotic Muslims.
It is important we engage Muslim Canadians and seek their help to weed out the bad apples and put them in a separate basket, away from the peace loving Muslims. when I say ‘we’ here, it means every one, government, businesses, employers, people. We cannot expect to win their trust, without showing some. So next time you see a man with a long beard and a capon his head, don’t frown and just give a smile. You see a lady with her head covered, you see a Sikh with a turban, smile and say they are accepted within Canadian values. A smile will go a long way in winning their hearts and their support and making this country inclusive.
The second thing I wanted to blog on was the Environs-CBC poll with Muslim Canadians. Once again, it is proven that Canada is the best country among the developed world for ethnic and religious minorities. Canada topped the list in almost every sector compared to other countries, clearly depicting the tolerance shown by Canadians across the board.
The issue I had was with the question of the arrest of the 18 Muslim men and boys for alleged terror activities in Canada.
Asked about the arrests last summer of the 18 Muslim men and boys who were allegedly plotting terrorist attacks in southern Ontario, 73 per cent of the Muslim respondents said these attacks were not at all justified and 82 per cent said they had no sympathy for those who wanted to carry them out.
“The good news,” says Environics vice-president Keith Neuman, is that despite everything that’s gone on over the past few years, “these numbers do not suggest a minority that is feeling isolated and resentful.” The bad news Mr. Neuman is that 27% of the people felt/may have felt that these attacks were justified and 18% have/had sympathy or alleged terrorists, who want to plant terror attacks in Canada. Now, to me that is troubling.
There are roughly 700,000 Muslims in Canada and 27% of that is approximately 189,000 Muslim Canadians. So taking the polling error into consideration, 130,000-200,000 Muslim Canadians feel that these attack would be justified or have no opinion on it. 126,000 Muslim Canadians had some level of sympathy or no opinion on these terrorists who plotted to attack Canada!
I am baffled. Not just by these numbers, but the attitude given by people towards it. They treat it as a small negligible minority. Let me ask these people a question: How many people did it take for the Oklahoma bombing. If you didn’t know the answer, it is ONE. It takes just one idiot to kill and maim hundreds of Canadians. we need to reach out to these over hundred thousand Muslim Canadians in winning their support and making them understand Canadian values.
What could be the reason for this number. One thing that stood out for me was the response to the top two issues to Canadians and Muslim Canadians. Unemployment, immigration, racial profiling stood as the top two issues for Muslim Canadians, while environment was the top issue for Canadians.
45% of Muslims Canadians are graduates compared to an national average of 36% and still most of them are on less paid jobs, not reflecting on their skill sets. This has lead to many Muslims being disillusioned with the dream land Canada.
Who can help Canada weed out the bad elements? Muslim Canadians. We need to work closely with Muslim Canadians and seek their help to identify the bad elements who have an mandate to cause harm to Canada and Canadians.
How do we work closely with Muslim Canadians? Only by accepting them to be one of us and help create better opportunities for Muslim Canadians and help them integrate into our society. The steps towards that is Respect, Tolerance and Acceptance.
We can win this battle only by winning their hearts and their support, not by discriminating against them. We need to put a leash on some Muslim Canadians and mainstream Canadians who are spreading hatred amongst each other. The time to act has come and we as Canadians(including Muslims) need to work together to make this country a better place to live, for us and our children.
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Posted by Vijay Sappani at February 15, 2007 04:30 PM
Vijay--rather frightening, isn't it? This is in large part, why every Canadian should be aware of US policy, as it will effect our future, our safety, our country. Just being next door neighbours, we will be in the middle of any of their wars on the homefront--Bush is ensuring more and more... an attack on the US. Why is he pushing the world of terrorism onto the US doorstep, and now ours; just b/c we are next door? Frightening to think that Canada and the US, could be the next, Iraq and Iran--or North/South Korea.... the shifts in power, which has occured since the Bush administration debacle; has pretty much condemmned the future freedoms and liberties of the US and Canada.
Hello Vijay and Everyone,
Steve writes," have my reservations how very dangerous polling co's are, as their phoney numbers are picked up by ALL media, including WORLD media, and sets the stage for the mandate based on lies!"
Actually, Steve, I agree with this point since back in 2003 the polls in the USA were over 60 percent against the invasion of Iraq, continually, and overnight they starting reporting the other way, over 60 percent "for" the invasion of Iraq, and this was before the so-called phony proof was brought before the United Nations. The reason I remember this is becuase my sister and I were both amazed at the change in numbers, overnight, and discussed it, both agreeing that poll numbers do not change that fast for no apparent reason. Weeks later the phony presentation was given at the UN. I have never trusted polls after that.
have a great day everyone, ruth
Harper is a Bush, with intelligence. It appears, he is back-tracking, and repeating in Bush's footsteps. It appears, he is willing to take us into the hostility of global warring, despite the death tolls, despite the land-destructions; despite even, the threat of global, thermo-nuclear war.
What is frightening, is we the mass's have nothing to say about it anymore; when governments do not work for us; they work "against us."
Canada is currently so riddled with political scandals, its ridiculous and ludicrous to continue to believe, "we are the people" that rule our own nations.
Perhaps, the only nation any man, woman or child truly rules; is the nation within themselve's...and even there, it is said; it is God's Will--but, how do we have free-will; when the violence, corruptions and greeds; are unfairly stacked against us?
For the past ten years, Canada has become embroiled in political greed. Beginning in 1996-97 with a 21.6% income decrease; to every aged, disabled, and lone parent families on the safety net systems. Ontario took the larger brunt; which is hypocritical, being one of the richest provinces in Canada.
It is troubling, that my beloved Canada; a nation once compiled of compassionate human beings; has become embroiled in tyranny at home... where politicians "took" from the poorest, the past ten years, and then appointed themselves up to 20% income increases to their salary. PM Chretien alone, took more than 2/3rds of the raise!!
Canadians are being ripped off, deprived of their natural inheritence of Canada's natural wealth of resources; to line the pockets of just another corrupt political/religious based/run country.
No wonder, the rich and powerful strive to reach the moon and mars.. they know, this planet is f'd.
IF we invested in earth, instead of dominating earth; we could build an eternal paradise.. for all!
Muslim-Canadians need to build a strong safety-net support group, for incoming Muslims to Canada. Some are coming to Canada, with anger, hostility and an ancient belief-system, which has embroiled the Muslim homeland, warranting those whom can afford or able to; to flee thier homelands.
Muslim-Canadian beliefs much change to match Canadian standards; in regards to equality for women in Canada; and that, abuses towards women and children by spouses.. will NOT be tolerated here!!
Many recent studies have shown; that newly arriving Muslims face all you mention Vijay; then it is imperitive, they are supported in a longer-term, than just entry to liberation and freedom Canada offers.
Most Muslim women and children, in Canada--still live in the "old world" at home, yet; face a hypocritial world, in the new world, where husbands carry on the vigilance of hate/anger and political/religous fanaticism.
WE, as Canadians DO strive, to narrow the anvils of abuse against women, children and any/all; whom cannot defend themselves.
How many Muslim women and children are being abused by their husbands in Canada? Not on the whole; but, in the Muslim traditions, of corporal-punisment-treating women and children?
IF this abuse cannot be abdicated here, then the boys which are continuously raised with this way of living; are cursed to repeat the sins of the father...regardless of the country they live in?
What frightens me about Harper, and the current Administration of the past ten-fifteen years; is that we are transgressing, rather than progressing towards equality for all?
I have 27-29, Canadian government books on women's rights in Canada, pertaining to Native Aboriginals, and all; women and children in Canada.
When I stopped advocating years ago, I offered the books to many women's groups, to offer them clear research, and awesome resources for themselves.
Not one womens group, or minority group, accepted the gifted offerings... which were Federal Government obtained, during my advocating days/nights...where I ensured!! EVERY library in town, had a copy of all 27 government-issue books!!
These books, sit in a box in my porch, now subjected to environmental damages... what a shame, that the minority groups here, want help.. but are NOT willing, to work for it; by learning their legal rights... siggggh
((insert, smiley butting head on brick wall here))
SINGLE CHARGE LAID IN CANADA'S--INCOME TRUST SCANDAL, INVOLVING THE LIBS... sigggh
NO charges were EVER laid, nor the money "found" in the human resources scandal back in 96-97 amounting to the remaining 1.6% income decrease, the government "took" from the poor... this accounts for the total of: 21.6% income decrease, Canda took from it's most poor and vulnerable!!
"all we are is just another.. brick in the wall"
above is a quote from a song, which the band escapes my memory(age-thang)!
I guess, politicians figure poor people don't need to eat, nor have suitable shelters, clothes, and apparell? WE live in -30 to -40 below zero temps here in the rural north.. most poor, do not have vehicles, we have NO bus's.. and they wear clothes, not financially suitable for our environment...nor, can the working poor, afford adequate heat and hydro anymore!!
SOoo many building for sale here in town... sitting idle, rotting; while the poorest families, live in dives, more than 30% below poverty levels....
OK, rant over and out.. thankyou for the opportunity to express my distain for current administrations in Canada.
Vijay, you must cringe when I post on your blogs, as it seems to shut them down.. sorry friend, the soap-box I stand on, were implanted deep within me, and neither tide, nor storm, has released my spirit, from its bondage; to advocate openly, about things I see wrong; and why war is often an imminent reaction to a wrong.
Well, and as Velcrow Ripper so daintily put it in his blog on Holy Fool/Names.... I may wear the tears of a clown; but, my intentions are purely for those, whom cannot "be here" to speak out for themselves.. the ones caught like fish in the dyfunctional social safety-net systems of the political partying world.. of which we aquire a redundant sense of hope, in justice and appeal, for world order, trust in government; and food/lodging/heat/hydro for all on earth.. as beneficiaries to its natural, wealth-reaping resources?
North
Vijay- here is another survey result for you to blog about:
"Those who think that Muslim countries and pro-terrorist attitudes go hand-in-hand might be shocked by new polling research: Americans are more approving of terrorist attacks against civilians than any major Muslim country except for Nigeria.
The survey, conducted in December 2006 by the University of Maryland's prestigious Program on International Public Attitudes, shows that only 46 percent of Americans think that "bombing and other attacks intentionally aimed at civilians" are "never justified," while 24 percent believe these attacks are "often or sometimes justified."
Contrast those numbers with 2006 polling results from the world's most-populous Muslim countries – Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Nigeria. Terror Free Tomorrow, the organization I lead, found that 74 percent of respondents in Indonesia agreed that terrorist attacks are "never justified"; in Pakistan, that figure was 86 percent; in Bangladesh, 81 percent."
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0223/p09s01-coop.htm
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Vijay, you must cringe when I post on your blog
SINGLE CHARGE LAID IN CANADA'S--INCOME TRUST SC
Muslim-Canadians need to build a strong safety-
Harper is a Bush, with intelligence. It appears
I posted this a couple of days ago in the Open Thread. I am glad someone chose to blog about the article:
Environics Polling and CBC both contempted by
Canadians!
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/02/12/muslim-poll.html
Convert the percentage numbers with actual "body" numbers and it doesn't take an Einstein to see that there are a hell of a lot of Muslims, that have no use for Canada or our religion, and yet the headlines would make one believe that everything is TICKETY-BOO!
Unbelievable how these two "Marxist" spin masters have the gall to think that Canadians are blind to the real truth in these figures, and can't see the truth in their spin!
Read on and you'll see the holes in this that an 18 wheeled truck can drive through!
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GLAD TO BE CANADIAN, MUSLIMS SAY(ARTICLE)
Last Updated: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 | 8:13 AM ET
CBC News
More than 80 per cent of Canada's roughly 700,000 Muslims are broadly satisfied with their lives here and only a very small percentage — 17 per cent — feel that many or most Canadians are hostile toward their religion.
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( 17% is higher than the 10% to 15% suggested world wide! 17% of 700,000 is no "bowling team"))
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According to a new Environics poll conducted in association with the CBC, a much larger proportion of Canadian Muslims is satisfied with the way things are going today than is the case in Europe. The proportion is greater even than the 61 per cent of Canadians who generally feel their lives are on the right track.
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(Because of the "economy: and "jobs" and because we got rid of the Librano$ Marxists , nothing to do with Muslims!)
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Cold weather topped the list of things about Canada that Muslims polled like the least.
(CBC) At the same time, there are clearly different perceptions between the Muslim community and other Canadians over such flashpoint issues as integration, the role of women and the wearing of headscarves.
And despite intensive efforts by the Stephen Harper government to reach out and recruit prominent Muslims to its cause — witness the recent floor-crossing of former Liberal MP Wajid Khan — there is little sense that this is yet taking hold.
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( Get it straight, first it's 80% satisfied at the top, now it is "not taking "hold"?)
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Asked whom they intend to vote for in the next federal election, 54 per cent of Muslim respondents said the Liberals, 13 per cent said NDP, and only seven per cent said the Conservatives, which is virtually the same way they voted in the last election.
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( The Librano$ are seen by the Muslims as their very good "friends" which they are, Chretien made sure of that! they are livid that the Conservatives are backing this war in Afganastan and not only that, but killing Taliban! their brothers!)
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These are some of the key findings of a wide-ranging new survey of Muslim attitudes in Canada as well as attitudes toward them.
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The survey — conducted by Environics Research Group in conjunction with the CBC and other clients — interviewed 500 Canadian Muslims and 2,045 members of the general population between Nov. 30, 2006 and Jan. 5, 2007 and is said to be accurate within 4.4 percentage points and 2.2 percentage points respectively, 19 times out of a 20.
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( "Other clients", won't name them, and it is only the "dead" that are NOT "on" to the Marxist CBC)
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In general terms, the poll found that 73 per cent of Canadian Muslims describe themselves as "very proud" to be called Canadians, even if many of them see their religion as coming first in certain instances. As well, they have very little sympathy for extremists or terrorist groups and they aren't crazy about the northern climate —
it tops the list of things they like least.
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(It should have stopped right there, when there are 73% of them find their religion coming first, their so-called "religion" is also their POLITICS, as Islam IS Politics based on their religion and Qur'an, which is their constitution!.... Northern Climate? isn't that "snow" in Afganastan and Pakistan and a few other Muslim areas!?)
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Asked about the arrests last summer of the 18 Muslim men and boys who were allegedly plotting terrorist attacks in southern Ontario, 73 per cent of the Muslim respondents said these attacks were not at all justified and 82 per cent said they had no sympathy for those
who wanted to carry them out.
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(That leaves 27% and 18% respectively who hate our guts, convert the percentage to "bodies" and there are a hell of a lot of suicide bombers in that crowd! And like hell "ALLEDGEDLY"...THEY WERE!)
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"The good news," says Environics vice-president Keith Neuman, is that despite everything that's gone on over the past few years, "these numbers do not suggest a minority that is feeling isolated and resentful."
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( This last the pollster hasn't learned basic arithmatic, and spinning (lying) what he does know! actually it's laughable, he should be ashamed of himself for that last, the opposite is true in his own findings printed here!)
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Canada's Muslims have different priorities, the poll suggests. Unemployment and immigration issues are more important to them than the health care and environmental concerns that are driving other Canadians.
There are also differences over how much and to what extent minority communities should "blend in" with the Canadian norm.
Almost half (49 per cent) of the general Canadian population feel new immigrants should blend in with the rest of the country, while 40 per cent feel they should be encouraged to maintain their religious and cultural practices. For Canadian Muslims, these numbers are 15 and 65 per cent respectively.
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( None of these numbers add up, otherwise Sharia law, that had only a handful of supporters would have shown more weight by the Muslims themsleves who in the main shot the idea of Sharia law down in Ontario! And there is no way that Canadians will agree to have Muslims NOT blend in, unless terror supporters themselves are the ones polled!)
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The differences are more pronounced when it comes to women: 81 per cent of non-Muslim Canadians feel ethnic minorities should adapt to mainstream Canadian beliefs about the rights and roles of women, whereas only 36 per cent of Canadian Muslims feel that way, the poll suggests.
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( Again, convert the percentages into "bodies" and there is a small deadly army there! Notice also in that last line they left out "Muslim MEN"!)
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A majority of the Muslim respondents (53 per cent) would also like to see Islamic Sharia law adopted for divorce and other family disputes, and a much larger number, 86 per cent, of Canadian Muslims
do not feel governments should ban the wearing of headscarves by Muslim women in public, including public schools.
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( I rebuttled above, however they have to prove to me the 53% they quote above!! There were not that many that were protesting for Sharia law, however I wouldn't doubt the wearing of head scarves is close to correct, they have been duped all their life to believe
that, and yet they are going to schools without them, so it is only a big deal with the "pollster" and moot to the Muslim women!)
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Many of these concerns are more strongly backed by young Muslims under 30, the survey suggests, and Haideh Moghissi, a York University sociologist who has worked extensively in this area, says these should probably be seen as more of a "political gesture than a religious one" by those who have felt their community "bearing the brunt of this suspicion and fear" since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
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( This so-called "Sociologist" Moghissi is spinning it again, the Muslim religion "IS" POLITICS, so his arguement goes out the window right there, but again, they think they are talking to a class of retards in a "funny school", they pray that Canadians "forget"...
that Canadians cannot THINK! it's the "young ones" that are killing!)
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In fact, almost 60 per cent of Muslim women do not wear any kind of covering on a regular basis, the survey found. And 72 per cent of the respondents said they were not too worried or not worried at all about Muslim women taking on more modern roles in Canadian society.
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(They don't talk about the 40% that "wear" covering, and 28% that "don't" want to play rolls in Canadian society, and again, count "bodies" in those numbers and Canada is in trouble!)
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Canadians are not being hypmotised anymore by the enemies of Canada, we learned the hard way to recognize our enemies with 50 years of LIBERALISM, phoney pollsters and lying Marxists, and the traitorous MSM, Canadians finally saw the light once the net came on stream and the "new" Conservative" Gov't has taken over!
I have my reservations how very dangerous polling co's are, as their phoney numbers are picked up by ALL media, including WORLD media, and sets the stage for the mandate based on lies!
But still the enablers of the terrorists and anti free loving Canadians soldier on doing their best to hypmotise the Canadian public the way they have done so CORRUPTLY in the past!
So America is not the only one with "enemies within" however they are being "outed" daily in the Canadian blogworld! as they are in the US ( Intentblog included). Thank GOD for the net and talk shows!