E₈ and Physics

Dear D.K. and Mieke,

The math is Greek to me but the view is heavenly!

Why is there so little of the color yellow?

I must run off and show this to the Easter Bunny.

If all my eggs are in one basket,

I want them to wear this design.

Fantastic timing Mieke and DK,

That was another clue provided in perfection by divine intention. The timing of this is nothing short of divine.

We are getting closer; all theories provide value and part of the solution. However the solution has not been revealed yet, but HQR has lead to great insight and understanding. Especially in understanding the world at large at the current moment, what is wrong and how to fix it.

I don't have the time to devote to formally expressing all I have connected in the last two weeks as to what is happening it is very complex. I have to spend to much time trying to generate real revenue which I have been neglecting for the past six months using up all the savings keeping things going. Most the insight / information is related to research on the Bees, The Birds, The Amphibians and other animal species that are all reacting in an unusual way to something that is coming, not in our control, however also being effected by things we have done and do control.

There is an interesting tie between quantum physics and genetically modified plants having to do with "spin" even though the molecules look the same, and I suspect virtual particles. I think the very nature of this thread involving patterns. There is one other factor and another key word is FORIEGN PROTEINS being introduced into the system. These have effects similar to prions found in Mad Cow disease. Irregular proteins can throw a wrench with a cascading effect though an entire biological ecosystem.

You see that pattern up above? it is based on parameters and formulas. If any of them were to be changed, THE WHOLE PATTERN would collapse. Well guess what it appears we did just that with genetic modification, we messed up the formulas that generate the pattern called life.

I could almost liken the pattern above to the pattern of life.

As I wrote before the world was designed perfectly as far as systems working in harmony, yet the scientific majority refuse to hear what is being said.

The world is about to go Biblical, maybe that will get the attention of some, so that they will listen to the intelligent directives to will aloow them to navigate the issues and allow a smooth ride.

Remember all that is not in your control is divine will. You are responsible for what is in your control and for what you have the ability to do in the present moment.

There are very special leaders by design that One must seek out and give a voice.

Yes, you do have free will; the world had the chance, and perhaps there is still a slim one, but there were not enough wise men to hear and respond in the manner needed. There are no real leaders (aware, intelligent, and informed) on the planet at the moment that I can see but nobody really sees that. They are all to busy protecting what they have, and will soon lose it.

On the light side, miracles are always possible, ask for them, and make yourself available to the divine impulse, all do so in concert.

Know your self, then see your self in all other and respond to all in that way, as your own self. This is a challenge because it will conflict with the fictions in your mind, the fictional world created by the influence of the illusion of separation. Hold fast to truth and knowing and deny the fictions, and you will have the power to perform miracles, and everything that you seek is provided. There are angels on your left and on your right, in front and back, above and below, and legions of them await your call for:

“For the fearless are full of love.”
~Infinite Play the Movie

Hi Mieke, you seem to be one of the very strategic pawns in the hands of the Scheme of Things here.

You have brought such important element of H of HQR Socratic dialogue into the picture.

E8 is a part of Supersymmetry, and my, what I call Mosc theory of evolution (Evolution through four basic forces or interactions),is really a theory of Supersymmetry (you know Mosc is Matter of supersymmetric category if you are a scientist.)

In fact, the HQR Socratic Dialogue and scientific cosmology both are slowly but surely inching towards this Mosc Theory of Evolution.

And as this theory really explains design it is what Richard is seeing as patterns I think.

Confinement is the most important feature of the third, strong force. And opening of sahasrara chakra or lotus is really breaking free from this confinement/force. As this force is also the mother of our mind/ego/intellect, so breaking free from this force really implies breaking free from mind/ego/intellect so far as we are concerned. To me E8 represents this breaking free or quantum jump from third force/phase to fourth force/phase. In other words, science through it may be trying to go beyond what it may be calling its theory of hadrons. I think I have heard some S-Matrix theory of hadrons, it may be this.

But, as there is a further weak force based phenomenon based on spiritual heart ( as the third is based on mind)it means to reach real supersymmetry we/science will further have to go beyond/incorporate this E8 phenomenon into sort of what one may call a theory of subtle leptons, such as neutrinos (actually also some bosons).

As spiritual heart as no center, nor really have weak interactions curcumscribed phenomeon, and moreover, every point on or in it will have almost all possible universal dimensions (for every 'point' will be capable to give birth or throw forth from it complete universe - as is the case with Bohm's holomoment - it will be interesting to see what picture we can device for such a supersymmetry. Thinking aloud for all...

No wonder it is said that final Truth cannot be described not to talk of being depicted in a picture...Writing this Ocean of Love picture of some previous thread comes to my mind. That too did not seem to have a center...

Dear DK,

Thank you for the title of this thread and your extensive explanation of something (at least in my perception) that has been known always in the core of our being.

I have wondered quite a lot why we are bound to arrive at the truth by walking so many sideways. But then the labyrinth made it all clear to me and Harb´s book and the scheme of things did the rest :)

Dear Keith, Happy EASTER!! It´s a new day, it´s a new way and we fly out to the sun :)

Dear Richard,

Thank you so much for all your input. You defenitely are the infinite player, so do not worry too much :) In the scheme of things order is already emerging from chaos. Happy days are here again!

Dear Harb,

Thanks so much for coming into my life :) The scheme of things is definitely going towards supersymmetry, going HOME again from where we came.

It´s what Steve Rother from Lightworker says on his homepage: "Welcome Home" :)

And as Deepak says: "appreciation, acceptance and non-resistance", the message of lightworker is a powerful one too:

" to treat each other with respect, nurture one another at every opportunity and play well together. "

Espavo and Namaste

I should tell you all what happened last night after I posted and read here. As I was reading through DKs post on the String theory premise, especially the heterotic string theory and looking at the E8, things were clicking in my mind. Just beyond comprehension and language, but not beyond the language of math or abstract conceptual understanding, or computer modeling.

So I tried something! and produced something by accident.

The thought came to map the E8 pattern to spatial geometries, in other words creating surfaces by folding and bending space. This can easily be simulated on computer.

It is all based on an extraordinary amount of math and calculations (that I don’t understand) quickly modeled on the computer and altered with the drag of a mouse and key strokes, but virtually impossible for the human mind and pencil and paper. You can also instantly see the results.

So I created these spatial geometries, true to form you cannot see them until they contain one additional piece “the pattern”. You can think of the pattern as "light code". The light code combined with the spatial geometry produces form. The pattern creating the visual data, and the space geometry creating the physical data for example sensory touch.

This same one pattern could exist anywhere and everywhere, it is the underlying spatial geometry that when combined with the pattern creates complex form.

The forms are beautiful and splendid to see.

So to make a long story short, I mapped the E8 onto surfaces and twisted and folded them randomly dragging the mouse to change the parameters and warp space if you will. In a way emulating perhaps the string theory. Parts of the pattern became hidden and some exaggerated by the underlying space geometry.

Well it produced a WHITE HORSE! When I looked at it I thought wow that looks like and has the proportions of a horse with four legs and a head. Just the fact the it created a solid white shape was of interest.

That pattern above when folded and distorted produced a solid white horse shape. It produces other fully formed crude classical imagery depending how you warp it. It is really a type of multi dimensional warping possible by changing the underlying math properties of space. ADD TIME and I suppose you would have matter, evolution and events.

It is hard to describe how it works; it is almost like this One pattern contains all other patterns, which can be generated by manipulating the curvature of space and folding the pattern into itself.

I think this is some sort of break through hard to explain you have to see it. I don’t really know what I am talking about : )

If you think of the amount of calculations first those involved in producing the E8 pattern and then the spatial geometry it is astronomical but from them come things we have never seen before.

I will be posting the images, time permitting later. I will try to do an animation so that you can see how that pattern above can for example produce solid sections of color and new shapes.

Thanks Mieke,

Yes a new amazing world is emerging from the old as we speak, it is simply amazing.

Richard, you may be really on to something. Bohm's holomoment also contains enfolded patterns of the likes you describe. May be you can get an idea from it. Just google Bohm holomoment enfoldment or something like this.

Mieki,

You said "happy days are here again", I agree there is great change for the better. I don't feel the "happy" at the moment. Not the happy I felt when I once sang that very song as a young child in our school performance. I think I was in 2nd or 3rd grade. Perhaps I have some work to do on myself.

I hope I didn't offend anyone above, it was a viewpoint of about our collective manifestation and not any individual, and I probably should have expressed it differently, it is not that we do not have great spirtual leaders or wise men on the planet. What I don't see is a unified leadership "proper" on the planet speaking from a voice of spirit and wisdom.

I see many leaders or perhaps we might say teachers speaking from the spirit with wisdom to many, yet these voices seem to be absent from the world of politics.

Politics needs to be infused with spirit and then there will be balance and that will come when the people manifest it collectively from within their own selves.

Well I have probably said enough and should go into silence.

Perfect DK! And the Star of David is in the center of the rainbow.

Love, Char

Okay everyone I thought since Easter here is a visual of the E8 Super Symmetry applied to the ovoid. Hope you like it.

There is a single frame and an animation.

OR CLICK MY NAME

www.i----i.org/egg.htm

What is interesting to note that the ovoid or egg (which we will call the space geometry) when the pattern is applied can appear both convex and concave based on the observers (choice) shift in perception. So both dualities (concave and convex) are true yet it is one, yet the rational mind would say something could not be both convex and concave at the same time.