We try our best NOT TO TRANSFORM but are forced to transform.

Harb

It is nice that this shift in consciousness is becoming so mainstream. It's reminds me so much of the Amway meetings in the seventies. Lots of emotional hype and giant smiles everywhere.
Then the evangelical christain movement same thing, lots of hype lots of energy.
Then the quiet New Age movement, still lots of hype and smiles just dreamier. Then the self help gurus came out in force, really big bright luminecent smiles.
Now I am seeing the same wave of energy flowng through this next incarnation. The consiousness movement.

All of these steps has lead to the next to bring us here. Each on a little more conscious.

I am also seeing this energy build in the peace movement.

I am not moraly obligated in any way to participate in this human evolutionary experience. I am a participant because I exist. No matter what I do whether it's taking part in discussions like this one or just sitting alone on a beach the rest of my life, I contribute to the evolution of human consciousness.

The shift in consciousness has already happenned the evidence is all around and so obvious. We are on a journey that no one can stop.
We will be what we will be.
We are already at one.
We have always been connected.

We are just becoming more and more aware of it as a global society.

So thanks Craig for your article it's more evidence of our growth in consciousness.

derek

Yep, it's an all or nothing deal.

The way these galactic penal colonies work is that everyone gets out of prison at the same time. Actually we don't get out we transform our reality from a prison to paradise.

Living the truth in a world of fiction is difficult.
~Infinite Play the Movie

However as more people discard their fictions it will get easier, so there is incentive to help others see through their fictions.

I have developed a new fiction eraser that can be used liberally in your daily story creation.

It is to help us live the truth and get over the fear or doubt hurdle in each instance where we feel tempted to subscribe to a fiction, it is a replacement for prayer, this ritual itself being somewhat encumbered by fictions yet still producing some good results because a glint of it’s original forgotten purpose remains.

Put your attention on the DIVINE CONCEPT for several moments.

That is it, you don't need to ask for anything, the universe already knows what you this act need will keep you on the path to fulfill divine intention and reap prosperity and abundance for all without creating turbulence.

When you place your attention on the Divine Concept it erases the fictions and empowers and imparts intelligence and wisdom.

The following shall become common dialog amongst us.

"That's a fiction man"

When we spend time periodically focusing on the divine concept we will have the ability to see through the worlds fictions.

If you don't know what the Divine Concept is, you’re pretending not to know. Quit pretending that is what allows you to subscribe to fictions.

So for the rest of today and forever, when you hear someone state a fiction, call them on it and supply a truth.

Take a few moments now and focus on the Divine Concept.

All One being, both noun and verb, loving, compassionate, all powerful.

So Craig,

You are making these statements and claims as a transformation coach. Isn't that like the stock analyst recommending a stock to someone else which they also own?

Am I the only one who sees a conflict of interest here? It took me two seconds to find your weblink from this posting.

Please tell me this is more than a subtle attempt at self promotion.

Regards,

Steve

It's not really a moral obligation, your free to suffer as long as you want. :)

This may unpopular to say around here. But it needs to be said. The concept of the post is still too evangelical.

Some of the world’s greatest spiritual teachers didn’t choose that calling. Several of them only began to take disciples after being insistently begged by those who wanted to be their disciples.

In other words, they didn’t need to be Gurus, but the people needed gurus.

For example, Lao Tzu only wrote Tao Te Ching because a concerned guard would not let him leave China until he wrote down some of his wisdom, because that humble person realized that the people would have no other way to keep even a shred of Lao Tzu’s wisdom once he left.

Osho was asked this question. He replied “I didn’t set out get disciples, but you needed a Master.” After his enlightenment, he stayed home in bed most of the time and didn’t care too much about meeting any people. But there were some friends who insisted that he initiate them and would not give up pestering him. He became enlightened in 1951, and didn’t begin to initiate disciples until after 1960.

He explained further that he had no relationship to any of his disciples. He RELATED to them but formed no relationship. The disciple needs a relationship to a guru, because he needs an inspiration. The disciple projects out a perfect master because he needs that image to help him destroy his illusions.

But the master is in no need of such a relationship. He can relate (verb) to whoever comes to him, but there is no need from the master’s side to form a relationship (noun), because there is nothing the disciple has that the master needs. It is entirely a one-way relationship.

So when people announce they are going to transform the world by teaching everyone this or that, I know right out of the gate that they have not completed their own spiritual search. Such people need students. They are going out there to seek disciples.

Even with the best of intentions, the possibility of disaster is very close with that approach.

Sometimes it is the fact that the teacher so fervently believes in his own teachings that leads his students astray. The new consciousness movement is itself littered with new teachers and new technologies that were going to change the world and ended up in court doing major battles with very disenfranchised former students, many of whom paid out large amounts of money for some technique or another, or simply to attend conferences where the great teacher stood out front and took questions or hung out with them.

I have had the good fortune to be around some people that I truly think were enlightened. They didn’t charge a dime to come to satsangs. There were no big speeches selling the people on why they needed this or that self-help course.

My interactions with all such people were very clean. They paid total attention to my questions and gave me concise, accurate answers to my questions. Then on to the next person with their total attention. There was no neediness, no “come join us” vibe or anything like that.

The evangelism is still, in my opinion, western societal conditioning. It’s the Western religions that all preach the need to evangelize, to change the world, to transform the planet.

For those who have been seeking for years and feel they haven’t “arrived”-

Well, they’re right. They haven’t.

But it is not because they don’t have an evangelistic vision. It is not because the Existence needs them to become enlightened. The Existence has no such need.

If I died to today, things would pretty much coast along as they have been. All the IB posters would be there, probably not even noticing my passing, unless someone happened to find out somehow (maybe Craig reads my obit in the Seattle Times or something…;)

The Existence doesn’t need me. What a load of crap.

Such people need to just keep looking deeper within. If you are stuck, there is often a layer of confusion covering the stuck issue. Just keep diving in, penetrating through it.

People don’t fail because they are not evangelistic enough. They fail because the confusion derails them. Just know that it is confusion, it comes and goes just like anything else. Keep learning and keep going.

But give up the idea that the universe needs you in some grand way. It doesn’t.

Far better to look at the root of why you such project such a need onto the Existence in the first place.

Ambasteve:

I wouldn't buy a stock from an analyst if they didn't also own it.

Kindest regards,
Bonnie

Correction to my #7

replace the word (from) with (recommended)

Dear Yogi-one, referring to your post #6 am asking myself why do you even bother to comment then?

Here in our Dutch language they say: Enlightenment happens "om niet", "for nothing". But then things start to happen. Then it is no more in your own hands and you are pushed in some way to react to what comes on your path. A lot of people learn the hard way, some are soo lucky they do not even have to come out of their bed anymore :)

Well, whatever we do, it is always our destiny i guess, cause we are gently pushed towards it no matter what. I totally agree with Harb.

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the thoughtful comments. Just a few brief comments. First, Steve, I just want to say that my offering here is completely open source. I'm not claiming to have any secrets for sale. Just sharing some observations from the field that I've seen make an enormous difference in my own life and the lives of others. Like any dharma, consider it on its own merits and if helpful, apply it. If not, nothing lost.

And for Richard, how is evangelizing against evangelizing different than any other form of evangelism? Aren't we all evangelists for our own point of view, even if our point of view is that no one should have a point of view? Not sure how you get around this one.

As for stock recommendations, I'd put all my money on evolution. It's the one thing that always seems to keep going up. ;)

Take care,

Craig

Craig

"As far as stock recommendations, I'd put all my money on evolution. It's the one thing that always keeps going up. :)

Not necessarily so. :)

Bonnie

We should not allow ourselves be "forced" to do anything! If we do we give up our own power.

Force must always be justified. Power needs no justification.
----me

Now I have to go "make" some money.

Well .... I was not going to comment, but I did manage to read thru the post, as I found it very difficult to stomach....reminded me of the reason I do not below to any church or any type of institution. So that is my personal issue and problem.

I did scan some of the responses and tend to agree with the general take on the post, even though I appreciated the thought process and form of the post. I think my little sister might really enjoy the post and I believe there is a place for this kind of information for the right audiences. And might I say, I am not in the norm and I am considered strange in my beliefs, as I do not believe in limits, so I will try everything and anything.

We all have a part to play and we choose our part, so no one can tell anyone what is good for them or right. It really is all a game or movie we play in or act in, and as long as no one gets hurt or suffers beyond the pain that they choose, then I think one should go for it. However, people tend to get so buried within the game and their roles, that they might find themselves in so much pain and believe that they cannot recover and become frozen. This is where I think the Gurus, Masters, Teachers come into play as they fill a role that is needed, which is their choice. We cannot make anyone fill a role that they do not what to play.

So I think that this teacher on this post is participating in his dharma or purpose and doing a really good job a teaching, even though I do not feel as though I will be the student. But something in his post as caused me some anguish, so that is for me to resolve, so I say thanks!

I typed it as I thought it, so sorry for the wordiness as I just don't have the time or desire to spend much on my posts, but hope to at least spell correctly and use the right words - to prevent the pain of one reading too sloppy of a job.

Love, Char

Sorry... still have this spelling and wrong word use problem!

This is weird, are we all reading the same thing?

Craig, Where did evangelizing come from? I saw yogi post something about it, I never mentioned it, not sure where he was coming from as far as evangelizing.

I have observered what Mieki speaks of in Number 9, number 9, number 9

Char, me to, its foreign proteins introduced into the environment by genetic modification of plants, they blow around, being a constituent element of the pollen, if you don't happen to eat them in something like wheat gluten from GM wheat like our pets did.

They cause cross linking in the brain, similar to the prions (proteins causing mad cow or CJD disease) which create holes resulting in a sponge like brain and eventually death. Contrary to potential assumption a sponge like brain does not hold more information.

Actually I don’t know if they cause crosslinking in the brain, but we are exposed to them and who knows how they are affecting us?

sorry for the mixup, Richard, I see it was yogi-one. still getting the hang of this thing.

I need a beer

Hey Richards....you are funny! I am taking so much allergy medication to where that happens and there is not much that I can do about it. And the meds wiring me up so much as well as making me dizzy, so much that I have to take over the counter sleeping pills at night after dinner and wine to go to sleep. And in the morning I feel like s---! and have to wake up with allergy meds all over again. My work environment is pretty bad with stale air and there is not much more that I can do, but find another job in a cleaner place and I cannot do that on meds, so I am stuck for the moment, until the pollen comes down outside and this dirt at work is taking it's toll. I have lysol, air machine, hepa filters in the vent above my desk and it still is not enough. Anyway, I was kind of joking, but apologizing as well to the poor readers.

And yes, I have complained and complained to where they are tired of hearing it ;-)

Dear Craig

Thanks for a brilliant post. Coincidentally, this is my current struggle, more or less.

Dear Char

Remembering your recent tribulations, saw this just now... taking it out of the realm of immunity improvement into that of stress reduction, to soften allergic responses maybe...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/17/health/nutrition/17exer.html

(or click my name)

love, Heath

Dear Char

Sharper Image Ionic Breeze? A big one, sitting right on my desk, makes a dif for me.

love, Heath

Dear Craig:

Cultivating awareness and consciousness via transformation to realize the truth or ultimate reality is a human need and not a moralistic code of conduct prescribed by a religion.

I agree with what you are recommending one to achieve but not because of a moral obligation to do so. Morality is an external prescription of a religion or sect, while transformation is inner free-willed self-realization, awakening or consciousness.

Morality is translation and not transformation.

Love
Avtar

Char,

If you have allergies you should check out the page I link, just click my name.

Allergies & Inflammation Knowledge Base Nutritional Solution Support

Do you know about lectins sensitivity in foods?

Or how about the following solutions from Quercetin, Bromelain, Butterbur, Forskolin, Bioflavonoids etc.

You might be able to get off all those drugs and use natural agents that generally more effective than drugs.

Hi Mieke,

Good point.

I myself was one of the people I referred to as spending money to go to these conferences and stuff, when I was younger. And it was all undeniably part of my process, and I learned a lot from those experiences, although the learning was often about the motivations of other people, and the exposing of my own needs and conditionings (as opposed to the enlightenment the conferences all promised).

So it' all good.

I have also been watching the people from Andrew Cohen's school of thought post around here. I heard Andrew speak several times very soon after he broke away from Papaji and started his own meetings.

Andrew has a sharp mind and is a very good questioner. I think it's fine for people to understand him in that context.

But I think they should carefully consider whether he's an actual enlightened master, or whether they need to buy up seminars and courses from people - any people.

Attending seminars can be a part of the process, or even joining an association and donating to it, but those are, in the final analysis, outer actions.

The real processing has to be done within with the raw material of your own emotions and your committment to get to the bottom of them.

Life itself is the greatest teacher and will bring all the lessons you need.

When I say the Existence doesn't need us, I am not saying the Existence is cold and impersonal. Only that their is no neediness coming from the Universe (or God, if you will) toward us.

Existence is full of blessings and bounties and will bring you us exactly what we need in life's journey. Existence (or God, if you will) is always available, and is never holding back from us.

The variable is our own resistances. What goes up and down is our own ability to be clear from impediments to our own understanding.

If it seems like God is far away, then we must be dealing with some heavy resistance, because God hasn't gone anywhere. We are the ones that open up and shut down, like a flower that blooms by day and retracts by night. The Sun is not going anywhere, we are moving relative to it.

So I posted in the hopes it would be helpful.

If Mr Hamilton can help people so be it.

I just want folks to question deeply before jumping on any bandwagons.

Which, after all, is also one of Andrew Cohen's main goals: to get people into the process of questioning deeply and not compromising on finding the real thing.

There is transforming from the thrust and push of energy...

One must not conform perhaps, to the habitual behaviour of the human being to attempt to always slow time/flow/energy down... to become physically immortal, and eternal/interal wise....

why stall the inevitable;

energy/matter-transformers--that's us. lol