Dear DK Matai

You is mackin'...Dizzy Friends, tha follow'n article -- Einstein n Faith -- by Shot Calla Isaacson is worth not'n in regard ta Holistic Quantum Relativizzles whiznich recently appeared in Time.

You diznont miss an oppurtunity ta mireprizzles Einstein giv'n furtha food fo' thought fo' those trippin' in HQR dialogue? No?

Jeff Chicago

dear dk matai

you respond ta mah guest nigga ravi in chiznat room...dear guest, pleaze fizzy free ta conclude as you deem fit cuz this is how we do it. go aheezee conclude as you deem fit n' shit. do you know that that there was a certain requirizzles ta give a personal view on siddhis etc n i did so. Yippie yo, you can't see my flow. so sit back relax new jacks get smacked. do you understand clearly? wizzle else do you seek mah friend?

is tizzy whiznat you gots in yo defense? that be it?

jeff chicago

Dear D.K.

Hope you and your family had a wonderful day!

Since we are still commenting here...

Master Kirpal believes it is tougher to follow the spiritual path in the West. He also goes on to speak
of the difficulties involved in serving a Master in Heaven(inner)
as opposed to finding a Master 'in the flesh' to serve
right here on this very earth.

Since we are to deny the possibility of a personal God,
are we then to find a substitute in the form of a living Master
that walks and talks as we do, but is totally righteous?

Initiation had better begin then, before one starts
upon a career path, gets married, has kids, buys
a home, accumulates toys and responsibilities, etc. etc.

What would the world be like if we all just dropped everything,
quit our jobs, left our families and homes to fend for themselves,
shirked off all accumulated responsibilities, etc. etc.
...and we all hit the road in search of a Master to selflessly serve?

Maybe some can get away with that in the East, most likely, yes.
Around here, the cops would be on your trail in a very short time.
They would think you were kidnapped.

If they caught you and you confessed to leaving,
and the reasons you gave for doing so were because you believe in a deterministic philosophy and you
really had no choice in the matter(my Master called),
they would 'have no choice' but to take you away in the Funny Wagon.

Master Kirpal is no longer with us, God bless his soul.
The body of the great man, Einstein, is turning into
the dust of the earth while his brain is being pickled.

If we are to look for "Master's: Live Coverage",
why do you keep posting the words of those who have passed?

Is there no new "Good News" anymore?
With a contemporary twist?
Or shall we keep on putting old wine into new bottles?

Do we really have a choice between the well-trodden spiritual path of old
and the New Age charismatics of today?

We do if we can find the science that bridges the gap
between our personally perceived reality and The Truth.
God bless and help us all! Peace, Keith~

My nigga Ravi responds in chiznat room...........Dear Matai, Diznont be duck'n n try'n ta be ignorant of what I asked you several times. Go back ta tha mah earlia posts directed ta here n gangsta me what I asked you 'bout yo visions of blue ghosts through tha key hole of yo hotel room n an explanation fo' they existence fo' real. Bow wow wow yippee yo yipee yay. If you think you is by play'n smizzart by avoid'n ta rappa tha questions, I must tizzell you, you can only foo' dimwits who can buy yo criznap on HQR. Yippie yo, you can't see my flow. Subscribe nigga, get yo issue..Im crazy, you can't phase me. Come one like a an educated gentleman n git engaged in yo Socratic dialogue ya feelin' me?. It dont stop till the wheels fall off. Keep the party crackin while I'm steady rappin'. You'se a flea and I'm the big dogg. You is los'n all credibity credibilizzles like an educizzle wizzle you stand for-- yo spirituality n all thizzat quantum science.

What say you matai fo' yo answa ta Jeff frizzom Chicago?

Dear DK,

I would like to comment on one quote in your latest comment:

"As HH Master Kirpal once said, realising God is not difficult, becoming a human being is. Even God is in search of a good human being."

Indeed and it takes a whole lifetime (and even more if you believe in reincarnation) to practice :)

Not for nothing it is said: "If you want to improve the world: start with yourself" or the other one: "be the change you want to see in the world".

So dear Keith,

Do not worry, everyone is capable to live his or her inner truth. Surrendering to your inner self, accepting it, trusting what comes in your mind from there and going with the flow, "knowing" that there is this subtle selfknowledge that can strengthen you. In other words: to love yourself no matter what. This has nothing to do with ego thinking. Neighbourly love can only be practiced if you are first fully capable to love yourself.

Jesus said: " Love your neighbour as yourself".

The second part of this sentence has always been forgotten to be interpreted in the way it was meant. Only then the other sentence "The kingdom of heaven is inside you" makes sense. At least this is the way i see it.

What helps me a lot is being aware of what you radiate. Radiation is like a boomerang, in most cases what you radiate you receive back.

I am confident that we are capable to find the "science" or "knowledge" that bridges the gap :)

Peace :), Mieke

Thought of the day by Lightworker:

Thought of the Day

Five minutes, just before going to sleep,
given to a bit of directed imagination
regarding achievement possiblilities of the morrow,
will steadily and increasingly bear fruit,
particularly if all ideas of difficulty, worry,
or fear are resolutely ruled out and replaced
by those of accomplishment, and smiling courage.

- Frederick Pierce

Dear D.K, and Mieke,

In the East, a mature man(not many women) can take
a month or so off the clock and visit an ashram or
possibly go to someplace like Deepak's "Wellness Center",
and not many give them a hard time about it.

In ones senior years, it is not uncommon to find
those who finally get to pursue the spiritual path
exactly because they have already fulfilled the requirements
set forth by their culture and sufficiently have
finished the goals set forth by the responsibilities they incurred when they were younger.

Perhaps I'm a bit impatient and wish to be of retirement age now
because my work is not fulfilling and my kids are yet children.
I have a long wait unless I win the lottery.

Anyway...sometimes the creative impulse trumps
the knowledge of old.
Granted, most of the time knowledge expands by building
upon the works of those who came before.

I've said this before, imho, we should not set out to prove
the Master's sayings unless we are ready to bring in
the 'new math', as it was called when I began kindergarten.
Being a rebellious kid, I was suspended permanently about halfway through it and didn't graduate. Ha!

I think we'd be better off if we first set out to define
Reality as we find it or as it begins to define itself in a new way.
Maybe this year we will see something new at CERN.

It is hard not to have preset expectations about any coming event
or any new discoveries yet to be uncovered.

And Mieke, yes! It is difficult sometimes to love oneself,
but that is the prerequisite to loving others.
Or maybe not...altruism and caring for others is a learned trait and not one we're born with.
Does it matter which one we learn first?

Gotta go, I'm late! Keith~

Hi dear Keith,

Well, to me it did in a way. Finding out what other women of all ages had to endure in their lives and than comparing it with oneself´s was the first step for me to see it all in perspective (relative lol) and learning to love oneself gave us the confidence to start anew and to me things turned 180 degrees and from then on things got only better and better :)

May your dreams come true!!

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In the anonymity
is hided a force
that goes beyond-self

noname, no education, no good manners
are needed
just a direction

a wild hunter, limited vision
looking a hight prey
a desperate need to put down

Ay, Ay, Ay
Nobody likes being played
Beyonce, Beyonce
Shakira, Shakira (hey)

[Beyonce] He said I'm worth it, his one desire
[Shakira] I know things about 'em that you wouldn't wanna read about
[Beyonce] He kissed me, his one and only, (yes) beautiful Liar
[Shakira] Tell me how you tolerate the things that you just found out about

[Shakira] You never know
[Beyonce] Why are we the ones who suffer
[Shakira] I have to let go
[Beyonce] He won't be the one to cry

[Beyonce] (Ay) Let's not kill the karma
(Ay) Let's not start a fight
(Ay) It's not worth the drama
For a beautiful liar
[Shakira] (Oh) Did he laugh about it
(Oh) It's not worth our time
(Oh) We can live without 'em
Just a beautiful liar

[Shakira] I trusted him, but when I followed you, I saw you together
[Beyonce] I didn't know about you then 'till I saw you with him again
[Shakira] I walked in on your love scene, slow dancing
[Beyonce] You stole everything, how can you say I did you wrong

[Shakira] You never know
[Beyonce] When the pain and heartbreak's over
[Shakira] I have to let go
[Beyonce] The innocence is gone

[Beyonce] (Ay) Let's not kill the karma
(Ay) Let's not start a fight
(Ay) It's not worth the drama
For a beautiful liar
[Shakira] (Oh) Did he laugh about it
(Oh) It's not worth our time
(Oh) We can live without 'em
Just a beautiful liar

[Shakira] Tell me how to forgive you
When it's me who's ashamed
[Beyonce] And I wish could free you
Of the hurt and the pain
(Both) But the answer is simple
He's the one to blame

[Beyonce] (Ay) Let's not kill the karma
(Ay) Let's not start a fight
(Ay) It's not worth the drama
For a beautiful liar
[Shakira] (Oh) Did he laugh about it
(Oh) It's not worth our time
(Oh) We can live without 'em
Just a beautiful liar

Keith, I would say, be true to yourself rather than to any body, holy book or guru. Taking care of yourself will automatically take care of others. If Gandhi's oft quoted "Be the change you want brought into the world" is good, then on the same lines taking care of yourself too should be good as it will also eventually help take care of all.

Harb