Aloha Mallika

I am surprised you put so much faith in the medical system. America is a country built on industry. Health Care is a industry. It is big business. It is time America makes a 180-degree turn and be the change it wants to see. How is that done? One person at a time and your father is practicing doing that.

love patty

Sadly Mallika, Canada is not lagging far behind the US in health care providership!!

Makes me sick, to see ppl work 50-70 years, and can't afford to die...but, that's corrupt politics for ya!!

Been on disability myself, 7 years. Glaucoma, 7 degenerative discs, atonic and atrophic gastritis, and more. Most are from many years of playing women's sports!! It's been/IS--Seven years of hell. I am grateful for my nine-hundred and twelve dollars a month to survive on, when rent alone is five hundred though, otherwise I"d be on the street with all the "others" and doesn't disab just like to let us know it constantly too(yep, they sure do)

oh well... we are the ones whom could not heal ourselves; because

"poverty is a global issue, NOT a personal issue!"

One day, when ppl get that straight; maybe we sick and/or dying and the elderly might have a chance at a dignified life. : (

and I did FORGET, that ppl don't like hearing the truth from the horses mouth... sounds better coming from someone else I guess? lol

Aloha North

I love your site: http://www.myspace.com/northdesigns. It looks like the Spirit moves through you! love patty

Aloha, and Tnx Patty! It's pretty much all I can do for the spirit : )

Aloha North

It is pretty impressive. I love how you have created the pictures changing. love patty

Tnx Patty--designing pictures is my pleasure and joy to do; and satisfaction of purpose is mine when someone appreciates them...

Hello Mallika and Everyone,

Really, it is getting to the point where it will be too costly in $$ to live another day for people dealing with serious illness and have no coverage...to be able to live and care for one's needs may just be out of the reach of many....many people who work full time jobs have trouble paying for health care..there was a time where if you had a full time job you had health coverage..not anymore..The health care industry in America is really a true reflection of how greed dominates and rules at the expense of the many in favor of the few.

have a great day, ruth

Hello Mallika and Everyone,

just a thought on greed...This President has for the last seven years said that the greates threat to our Nation is terror and terrorists but really the greatest threat is the greed that dominates and rules our political system, our coporate systems, health care system, educational system, etc..Can America surive it's own greed? I wonder.

ruth

It is a puzzling realization that the richest nation on earth can foolishly squander more than a half a trillion dollars on a foolish, unnecessary war a half world away while tens of millions of its own citizens at home suffer and/or die needlessly because their government is unable to provide affordable or free public health care for them! How deplorable!

Even if America can give free insurance to all, there are no enough doctors and nurses to take up any new patients. The last time i called for appt they give apt after 4-6 months later. Imagine with the no of patients increasing twice and no of doctors the same, the situation would be pathetic. The only solution i can think of is provide affordable free emergency service or increase the awareness on alternate medicine for prevention.

Dear Mallika,
I agree with Ron (post#9).

There is no valid reason why America cannot make health insurance available to all citizens. And think about how many children are without insurance.

Ruth (in post 7 & 8) points out the underlining reason for unaffordable healthcare - it really is a HUGE business, and extremely profit-driven and pharmaceutical companies are also involved.

The solution is in the US government instigating universal care for all its citizens. Perhaps the next administration will get this done.

I pray your friends will recover.
love,
~ Kate

Hi Ron and others,

Could we not sum up what is happening to the American people with something like this?

The American people are too good, too trusting and think their President has to be a good guy!

When he says tax cuts for the rich will make everybody better off, it must be so. When he gives the impression that the Iraqis blew up the twin towers, it must be so.

When he says there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and we must invade immediately, even though the rest of the world asks “what is the rush”, the President must be right, we must go to war right away!

When they see him pray and declare how much Jesus means to him, he must be a good guy.

When he says the nation is better off with private health care the poor think, we are part of the richest nation on earth, so we will be better off too.

The American people are just too trusting and too gullible. Their President cannot be a misguided religious fanatic.

He and his God must know something that is unknowable to everybody else. Unknowable especially to those who tell him the war in Iraq cannot be won, because the President knows it can. Faith is more important than reason.

And a fully comprehensive Medicare system run by the state would be a bad thing.

The President knows. And one third of American people still believe in him, have faith in him and support him!

A trillion dollars, for a billion dollars worth of oil; and an "elected" genocide of the Iraqi people.

I shake my head, I squeeze my heart, I shudder, when I think; and there-for, I try often in vain, not to...

I don't understand why government won't invest a trillion dollars in human beings, instead of killing human beings--and the ONLY president on this planet, with a passed/approved LAW, that ALLOWS HIM, to torture people, without regard, remorse, or accountability; continues to DO-so!

FREE THE BLACK PANTHERS NOW!

Well said, Skep!

It's so wonderful to see one of Intent's brightest stars back on the trail~!

Cheers mate!

Yes, yes, yes....sure, sure, sure....we need free, govt. sponsored health care...yep we do! Then....hell....gasoline is 3 bucks a gallon...the government needs to provide that also..you know....so the poor, who are receiving their free health care..can drive to the Doctor.

And then....the government should buy us all groceries...hell...we've gotta eat...that's more important than health care!

And then.... the government should also pay our electric bill...you know...those damned energy companies...they're getting rich on our backs!

Why...it's completely ridiculous in the wealthiest nation on earth...that we have to pay for anything!!

Nirvana...Utopia....here we come.....we'll be bankrupt...but goddammit..everyone gets a free shot....and who cares about a little money...when an IV is free?

It's amazing the three people on this thread raising the most hell....all live in Canada!! Ron, (unless he's moved) Skep, and North!!

Hmmmmmm.....we may have to send our Boy Scouts up there yet...you know...to annex Canada!

Y'all have a great day!

norm

Hi Mallika,

Well, I went to see Brad, George, Matt, Don, Al, Andy and all the other hubba hubbas in Oceans 13.

My drive home was delight for the preview of Sicko.

Michael Moore should have attached beach balls below the waist for the Guantanamo Bay boat scene.

The way I see it is we are too divided in our little families and bogged down in our jobs to realize we all feel the same way on this issue and we all have something to get serious about. I do think demonizing the guy (or gal!?) at the top is just a lot of wasted energy better put into Luke Skywalker realizing Darth Vader is daddy and just rewriting Darth's story, flooding him with so much love and goodness, he has no pain to make him a secret monster (and I mean any leader in the position, especially for the future).

I'm looking forward to the bracelets for this movement. I don't want them to say Sicko, though.

There is one other thing I wonder about spiritually. I know in my own life I found out if I changed, my insurance would be $500 (and it would be lousy) simply because I had been told I needed surgery. I opted out on and got rehabilitation and practice yoga instead. All pain is gone. They don't care about that.

So I'm big into the mind-body-mind connection and cannot help but wonder if we are being forced into evolving to realize control of our personal health by way of mind over matter. I used to feel that way because of side effects and incompetence. Now, it is like a necessity for peace of mind because that personal news about health insurance was like a horror movie to me.

I dream of the day where my taxes are doubled and I can't distinguish universal health care from the DMV ( for our Canadian friends, that's Department of Motor Vehicles), our governments Gold Standard for efficiency.

Wait, why not just tax the rich and then they can pay for everything in this country Norm. You are on the right track.

Or we can take advice from Deepak and stay healthy by pacifying our Doshas!

Cheers,

Steve

gee... look who just came out of hybernation...our buddy the portly flabs...damn! what..did u have an accident in the den and it smells so bad that u had to run outta there in a hurry? whoa!

whohahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahahahaha!!!!!

Healthcare system is a joke...even non profit hospitals are in the frey to make money.Inner city hospitals are shutting down all over because of uninsured population that lives in these cities.The hospitals are moving to rich subarban areas where people have heavy insurance.

The reality is that uninsured do not get any screenings and they show up in the ER sicker.Someone really needs to think about uninsured people and get them some help.

Hollywood and giant corporations will give millions and billions of dollar to do charity everywhere else in the world except in USA.

Norm, re: your #15-- you noticed that, eh? Bully for you(pun intended.)

Myself, I noticed, that the ones whom bitch the most about helping the poor; are usually, the fat-cat politicians, rich folks, healthy folks, and young folks... I wasn't going to say anything about that though; until you spoke up about pointing fingers in directions... for the record, when the US gets bombed(and it will, won't it Norm?) plz don't come to CANADA--go to Russia, instead, or South America... your only two alternate routes of escape(oops)

touche' or what, eh?

My last word on this, and you can quote me:

"We ALL, have spirits of the lion! But, propoganda through corrupt and abandoning governments; have convinced us, that the poor, old, women, children, the suffering and dying; are their lambs. This is a mutant-hybrid of suffering, caused from governmental neglect, breach of trust and promise to provide for ALL."

'nuff said, going back to my "corner."

http://www.myspace.com/northdesigns

flabs is such a fanatic about his idol bushman that if bushman passes wind...flabs will say: what a breath of fresh air! damn!

just in reading this- i do hope your friends receive the care that they need- but i have to say- i agree with norm...i live in NYC and here @ 9/11- and everyone seems to forget so quickly (never forget) ...and please remember the USA is ALOT bigger than France or Italy or any other foreign country and to control the healthcare system in a country this large would be something...my many relatives & friends in foreign countries have MUCH to complain about their healthcare systems. My close relative broke his foot in Europe and they told him to come back in 1-1/2 months to have it operated (can you imagine? sure - have it heal and then come back- what a mess)- what do you think he did? he told his family to get him to the USA to the best doctors there are. im so tired of everyone complaining about this country when they havent traveled the world to see clearly how wonderful this country is.

It is truly shameful that the US does not have universal health care coverage.

Then where would Canadians go for health care? I'm serious. American hospitals near the border have lots of Canadian patients. Many pay full price for what is supposedly free (but, in reality, is unavailable) in Canada. Others are sent by the Canadian government hospitals because they know they can't do the job!

**news flash**
I have just seen the first condom tv ad!
Haha!, hehe!
Welcome to public tv trojan!

I really dont have much to say about the healthcare situation other than,
All needs are but gifts
blessings of abundance
for he who ask...
V
Love
V

Bottom line, it is not George's, job or the "health care systems job, Its OUR job, you give whatever is asked, kindness, money, time, compassion, love.

Energy exchange.

If your friend or enemy is in need, give.
with and open heart
knowing that all is returned 10 fold
And oh, how people love to be blessed!

V

Good things happen below the bottom line.

yeah...like makin' babies! damn!

In my comments above, as per post # 9, I made specific reference to the fact that the U.S. government can afford to spend hundreds of billions of dollars fighting a foolish, unwarranted war in the Mid-East while tens of millions of Americans at home cannot afford to pay for basic medical needs. At no time was I insinuating that the government should also pay for their groceries or their cars. That is the misguided opinion of one delusional Republican supporter who is more concerned about a person’s mailing address than real issues.

By his ‘reasoning’, it is okay for Americans to die because they cannot afford to go the hospital! But he would have no qualms with his government diverting a trillion taxpayer dollars to Iraq where there is a more pressing need!

He is afraid that the government could go bankrupt subsidizing some of the needy at home; but not by squandering hundreds of billions abroad. He must have been good at math in high school!

Please let’s use a bit of reason and maybe even some common sense!

If all those other countries have such bad medical plans wouldn’t that be the perfect opportunity for the US to show the world what real good Medicare looks like?

Or do you think having 40 million of your fellow countrymen, women and children uninsured is the way to go?

Wow....a bright flash of light...what is it? Oh...now I see...it's the bright star of IB, aka Skep...he's blazing a trail of amazing intellectual acumen across the cosmos! All we dunderheads...bow and worship!! Wait...what's that small streak behind him..oh yeah...it's that Saywackian comet!! Don't make a quick stop or turn, O Bright Star of IB, or that little comet will jam his nose up Uranus! That would create pain of galactic proportions, and that Carl fella, would have to welcome you both to atheist heaven!

Let me make a quick statement, and then ask a question.

Statement: I am not uncompassionate. North's story makes me sick at my stomach. I can't imagine what that dear lady has gone thru. The incident in that California emergency room last week, gives me the heebie jeebies and makes me wanna stomp someone. I hate suffering, I believe in helping our neighbors. But I believe it's up to personal choice....I don't believe in wealth redistribution to that extent..

Question: Why is it any more incumbent on the government of the US, to provide health coverage for all...than to buy groceries and gas for all? Why? I don't understand the reasoning. We're guaranteed the right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'...that's it.

As far as the Iraq war, it's irrelevant to this discussion. There was no war in '93, when the Sainted Hilary attempted to ram universal coverage down our throats....and the ramifications were clear....we can't afford it. High school math or no.....

Ron...I really don't care where you live...I just like to yank your chain! You appeared on this blog stating that you lived in Calgary, Alberta, and then later adamantly denied living in Canada...I just got a kick out of it! U like to hold others feet to the fire.....

y'all have a great day!!

norm

HI Norm, oh plz don't get sick to your stomach on my account hun(said in friendship)as my intent was only to bring awareness. Most here, do not even know how corrupt the disability system IS, until you are IN it!!

I will do anything; to bring awareness; in regards to the "PLIGHT OF THE WOUNDED HUMAN BEING" to light.

I will piss ppl off, repeat and repeat! Allow myself to be called any name, anyone wants to call me! I will NOT be ignored(wink) on this subject of deprivation towards the children/aged/diseased/unworkables among us!! I was not always disabled. I am pretty, and look normal. It pisses off people in my age group(damn ego-harbouring!!)!! But, if they only knew, how much I do suffer, behind closed doors.... when they don't "see me" and my clothes are hand-me downs... ppl don't know the truths about me; yet talk about me, like they "KNOW?" ahahahhh

Accidents and illness's happen. Karma is a religion. It does not "exist." Get over it!! It's a crutch-belief!!

We are no different than the rose--we have our season of "living" and then, we perish. And, just as a rose can become damaged in a storm, so do we humans!!

Did you know, that to most ppl in town, they "believe" me to be a junkie, alchoholic and slut at the least?
These are ppl, whose homes I have never visited, and they have never been in mine!

Why does this happen? Stereotypical propoganda, to brainwash the stronger/wealthier in society; into believing we are not "worthy" of caring for--and that, we are incompetant, wanting a "free ride" or all of the above.

Meanwhile, I take NOTHING for my ailments, havne't been to a bar since new years eve!! and suffer a lot of pain and discomfort--I mention that only, so ppl will realize, I am not a stereotypical disabled person! I look normal, I just can't do lots of things no more; geez, bending over, corrodes my esophagus from the atrophy of the stomach, and I take a losec to lower acid content.. gravity is my NEW digestive system(a very bad, painful one)!! lol see? I am a proud, practicing celibate, since 1999 for bleep-sake!! I AM on a personal journey of discovery.. I do not bow to nobody, and I expect nobody to bow to me. A year and a half ago, I were a ten-year standing eucharistic minister of my parish, as WELL AS, President-Elect, of a large ladies auxillary!! I retired, due to the stigmatism, gossip, and the fact, neither group would allow me a month OFF, to attempt to stop a bleeding stomach ulcer...... so there!! I am disabled of working capacity, NOT mind-ability!!

I cannot implore to the public enough; to realize---that not everyone on the system is a pill-pooer, a lazy-loser....boozer, slut or "co-dependant." I AM IN FACT--by trade: a graphic design and desktop publisher, as well as a teacher assistant-aboriginal(I specialized)... then, the bottom dropped outta my boat! My stomach shut down, the rest is historical facts....stated above.

Plain, simpled. Life is, that way. But, we complicate the simplicity with division of people, views, intentions, and corruptions like deprivation, poverty and gossip mongering; of the less "fortunate" parts of ourselves(uggh)

That, is the pity--I am just the mirror of ignorance out there(wink!)

Luvins to all,
North

speaking of health care and confusing information:, this question is for Malika do you allow your children to have immunizations and if so why are you convinced it is the right thing to do?

speaking of health care and confusing information:, this question is for Malika do you allow your children to have immunizations and if so why are you convinced it is the right thing to do?

speaking of health care and confusing information:, this question is for Malika do you allow your children to have immunizations and if so why are you convinced it is the right thing to do?

speaking of health care and confusing information:, this question is for Malika do you allow your children to have immunizations and if so why are you convinced it is the right thing to do?

yo flabs...whats up... after several weeks of avoiding me...now u are responding to those darn skeptics...damn! whats up with that? y are u discriminating? u american sex symbol! damn!

ps... did u clean up the mess in the den? he he! whoa!

yo vitto..

we got u the first time... damn!

Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to say that as far as not being able to afford Universal Health Care coverage, and I am not talking about the Government paying the tab here, but I think if the American people(we) really started to pay an ounce of ATTENTION to the spending that is REALLY going on at our expense...we could afford a WHOLE lot more than we would or could ever imagine...

how many, here, at IB know what the so called "pork spending" was added to recent Bills passed in Congress? We all know about the crap that is added on to pass Bills, really, it is millions, yes millions...not pennies or dimes...so when was the last time you checked out your State spendings? REally, admit it, we know NADA about where the money goes...so, maybe there is money...yes, maybe if we take away seven million allocated to so and so's State monument to 98yr. old Senator so and so..and put it in an account for education or health care and then went on and through the rest of the "pork spending" who knows the amount of cash that could be recoverd and who knows how many politician's family members we could send to the empolyment lines because we have put their lobbying jobs out of business due to the new and improved careful diligence of the new and improved participating American citizen.....

so who know where the money goes? for sure you and I do not. But that doesn't mean it always has to be that way...

my old Doc was retiring so he sold his practice to a young Doc who drove a very fancy imported little sports car...well this young Doc said that I needed to take a certain drug and I asked him for some info on it..he came back with all the drug companies advertisements and I said to him, "but this is all info from the drug company" and he said, "well they can't lie." And I changed Doctors....ended up not taking the drug which really they did lie about for quite awhile...so my point is drug companies lobby, Doctors get "stuff" to push drugs...Drugs are almost unaffordable...Drugs are overperscribed...and who does that benefit? you? me? last time I looked I was asking my Doctor for the generic brand because the other was to expensive...really, just give me the cheap stuff...

anyway have a great day everyone,,ruth

Aloha Ruth

The only education doctors receive after graduation from med. school is from the drug companies. With television adds we are turning into pharm animals. I cut my cable to eliminate the subliminal images being downloaded into my subconscious. Our environment has a huge impact on our health. Being conscious of the new doctor's life style makes a difference:) Love patty

Ruth, when my stomach went atrophic and atonic; I was put on 27 pills a day for all the symptoms. I was sicker, and went off everything in 2001-02!! Now, I take a losec; I decided "to go" naturally, as was probably god-intended at the onset...

doctors are mere human beings; doomed to failures and mistakes; we cannot continue to allow them to have god-like complexities; b/c our very lives depend on it!!

I find docs of the past 30 years, push pills onto patients!! My disability program tried to force me to take narcotics for pain! I told them, they cannot force me to take drugs(wink) just say, NO! They even tried to force me into have surgeries--like a rod put in my neck and back.. umm.... like I don't think so, I said.. you cannot force me to do that!!

Good thing I am educated, as many on the system; out of fear--do everything they "demand" even if it is contrary to the mandate and practice of free choice!! arrrrgh

Ruth, when my stomach went atrophic and atonic; I was put on 27 pills a day for all the symptoms. I was sicker, and went off everything in 2001-02!! Now, I take a losec; I decided "to go" naturally, as was probably god-intended at the onset...

doctors are mere human beings; doomed to failures and mistakes; we cannot continue to allow them to have god-like complexities; b/c our very lives depend on it!!

I find docs of the past 30 years, push pills onto patients!! My disability program tried to force me to take narcotics for pain! I told them, they cannot force me to take drugs(wink) just say, NO! They even tried to force me into have surgeries--like a rod put in my neck and back.. umm.... like I don't think so, I said.. you cannot force me to do that!!

Good thing I am educated, as many on the system; out of fear--do everything they "demand" even if it is contrary to the mandate and practice of free choice!! arrrrgh

Lady North,

In most areas we are as different as they come, but I admire you.

Keep on fighting the good fight and have a nice Sunday evening.

Yes, you are special!
Skep

Aww Skep! Means a lot to me, to hear you say that... thankyou, and I will.

U R special too, Skep--don't ever forget it!!

WE all swim in the same fish-bowl, eh?
North

Dear North,

God, 27 pills! cannot imagine taking that much medication...you have to wonder how a body could even handle it...must have confused your natural body chemistry..then you have to simply take pills to counter the reactions of the pills...

Anyway over perscribing drugs is very common in the States and ranges from the very young to the very old....they wanted to put my niece's infant on a stomach reflex drug...the baby had what in the "old" days was considered colic..now considered "stomach reflex." She opted not to do it and the baby, as predicted, was fine..her body adjusting to her enviroment..no stomach probs...now..happy, healty baby...I am bothered by the Medical Community's addiction to pescribing drugs that they themselves do not really know anything about..

I am glad you are feeling better....have a great day North.....ruth

Hi Ruth, yup, 27 a day!! I feel much better being off them all this 6 past years, and I have no regrets, when the pain is bad either. The pills were killing me faster than the actual "disease" of the digestive system. I had to decide. To me, I made the right choice!! I feel healthier than I did when I were taking them all!! When my doc, last year started spitting out kidney stones; he was very unsympathetic when I was, for many years straight--only to learn a catheter was left inside me in 96--which were the cause of blocking the ureter--after 11 years, this was corrected surgically, 3 years ago.... damn doctors think they are gods--and it is much, to our failure to remind them, they are NOT! lol

Let us not forget either, that doctors make MONEY by writing prescriptions!! To me, doctors are nothing but legal drug pushers for the pharma-co!

Have a great day Ruth--glad you didn't listen and glad the baby's mom didn't either!

Love and blessings,
North

Hi Mallika, Ron, North, Steve and everyone else! Long time no...write.

First of all, let's reframe this a bit. The U.S. doesn't really have a health care problem, it has a health coverage problem. The healthcare here is arguably the best (or close to the best) in the world.

There are certainly up sides and down sides to this debate. The up side of UniCare (I like that) is that everyone has it and it works GREAT if you don't get sick. In other words you get lousy care and access...but at least everyone has lousy care and access universally. If you have some major challenges like North has experienced you're screwed. Also to reiterate what Norm said, if healthcare is "free" (hate that term because it's not free anywhere), then what else should be free? Food, housing, transportation? SOunds great in a utopian society, but it goes against human nature. Most of us won't work our tails off for no gain. As "non-spiritual" as that sounds it is basically true. If you disagree with that, read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand.

Health care is a commodity like anything else (i.e. food, housing, labor, etc.); therefore it is subject to the market forces of supply and demand. The problem with a system that is government funded is that those market forces that keep the price affordable don't come into play. The government then has only one way to control things...they must ration the care. So basically if you REALLY like how your HMO works U.S. citizens, imagine that HMO applied to the whole country. I'm sure that North can tell you about waiting lists for her to get the help she needs...it sucks.

My personal opinion is that we need to find a way to do away with insurance as we think of it here in the U.S. Most of us treat our health coverage as pre-paid health insurance. We need to look at ideas like medical savings accounts (pre-tax dollars designed for covering the little stuff, checkups etc.) with a blanket policy that covers major medical. On the other end take a look at improving the medicaid or medicaid type programs so that there are fewer that fall through the cracks. When this happens market forces will bring the cost of procedures into line.

Also as Patty mentioned, western medicine is a business...they are in the business of people being sick. There most definitely needs to be more work put into avoiding illness in the first place: diet, exercise, meditation etc.

There are no easy answers to this situation. But it's been my experience that the government rarely (if ever) does something with greater efficiency than the public sector does.

Peace,
Scott.

PS - Mallika, since this is probably not going to be "fixed" in time to help you friends, maybe you want to set up a little collection via the blog? I would be love to contribute and I bet many others here would.

Great points, Scott; you've identified many systemic issues with health care coverage in the US.

To add one more, I think things went further wrong when employers started offering to pay for health insurance for employees (and get a tax break on it). It's very institutionalized now, and has caused insurers and health-care providers to emphasize quick allevation of symptoms (instead of resolving the causes) in order to get employees back on the job. And since long-term employment is so rare these days, there's no incentive to avoid quick-fix medications that cause deeper problems down the road. If employees could choose their own insurance (tax-free) and have it be portable (across employers), they would be more motivated to take a long-term view of their health. I hear some steps have recently been taken in that direction, but it will take a while to turn the whole health-care system around.

sWORDSman,

Great point. Interestingly, it was the government itself that came up with the idea of employer provided healthcare. During WWII health insurance was set up as an enticement to get women to work in weapons factories that had previously employed men (now in the military). It was thought that this would be a way to pay women less money while keeping them productive.

Scott.

Aloha

Sicko is now online: http://www.ichblog.eu/mambots/content/bot_flvplayer/flvplayer.swf?file=http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/sicko2.flv&autostart=true&fs=true

love patty

yo flabs...

wasup? darn...u really come across a little strange trying to talk about the cosmos ...can u imagine how much more dangerous u would be if u were a college prof and not a travellin' sales man? yo! perhaps u would have been a hillary fan and not a bushie! darn! whoahahahahahahahaha!