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Gotham Chopra - July 02, 2007

Is anyone really surprised that after all of this, the years worth of investigation that cost tax-payers millions of dollars, the exposes, and dissertaions on corruption amidst the Bush administration, the public pronouncements by the President himself that he would not tolerate any BS within his adminsitration, that Dubya let Libby off the hook?

I'm not even as angry as I thought I would be. I mean I had assumed this was what was going to happen all along. I'm more saddened I think. Our system just seems to irretrievably broken. A guy like Scooter Libby, a convicted felon that broke the cardinal rule within the intelligence community, is let off the hook by the president who in his own words analyzed all the evidence, and determined that Libby's punishment was "too harsh." Who believes this? Plain and simple, Libby is one of Bush's guys and he never was in danger of going to prison. Why'd they even waste our time and money. By the way, this president who claimed to weigh heavily on this decsion before determining it the penalty too harsh is the same guy who commands the country that has dozens of "enemy combatants" imprisoned in Gitmo for close to five years, many of whom have never been charged with any crime. Same exact guy.

How does this happen? The whole thing kind of makes me sick. Why doesn't someone just burn the whole apparatus down? It doesn't stand for anything any more.

We all suspect the same thing: Libby was the fall guy for Cheney. Did it go higher than that? To Bush himsef? Probably not, becasue if anything, it seems that Cheney never bothered to include Bush in things above him. This probably qualified as the like.

The only real resolve comes in the fact that this is a move of a broken man. Bush knows his reign is ending. He's no longer out to try and defend himself. Even his own support has dwindled and he'd rather be out on the ranch. He may as well save the few friends he has left so he has someone to play with on the ranch when his disasterous run mercifully ends and we can all get on with rebuilding our lives and a country that once stood for something.

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Posted by Gotham Chopra at July 2, 2007 09:36 PM

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yeah... seems the Bush admin. glorifies corruption, greed, war, torture, illegal Presidents in their own country and oh yeah..a two-tier law system--one for them and one for us; we go to jail if we break the law, they go free...OR, glorify it, by making people famous for breaking the law...like Paris Hilton!

NO wonder half the world hates the US--and ya'll that voted in Bush; have yourselves to thank fer the mess.

Don't give up, bro.

History will remember Bush and Cheney harshly, but history will also frown on us if we don't wake up, smell the coffee and hold them responsible for their crimes and treasons.

Even though we are late, and Americans allowed the Bush mafia to damage the country, history will remember if we finally do hold them accountable. Nuremburg is still important, even thought the Nazis had run their trip out completely by the time it got started.

Bushco's designs for ruling the world will fail, as have all the other egomaniacs who wanted absolute control over the whole known world.

My bud Len (The Existentialist Cowboy) has a good take on it today:

Grand Jury: "Can We Indict Bush & Cheney?"
existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com

There's movement afoot to bring these guys to justice. It will grow. Maybe Bush will finally be tried when we all 80 years old, but it will still be worth it.

C'mon Gotham,

Get your facts straight. You assert: A guy like Scooter Libby, a convicted felon that broke the cardinal rule within the intelligence community....

What rule is that? Are you still so full of 'Huffpoesque' nonsense, that you're relying on us not knowing that Libby was convicted of a process crime? HE WAS NOT CONVICTED FOR OUTING PLAME. Richard Armitage outed her. Libby didn't. Get over it and stop your whining! Or maybe you really didn't know? Maybe you've just had your head buried in a comic book and are reacting to headlines?

Anyway......

norm

I call it the "good ole boy system." Friends lying for their friends, because that is what it takes to be friends in our society. The same thing happens in school yards. If you want to be in a particular clique, you have to help the ones who own the clique. Of course, Bush owns that clique, and he is the goofiest excuse for a president we have ever had. In fact, he is so goofy that I don't believe he didn't approve the leak in the first place...which is why he let Libby off the hook.

You are absolutely right about our system. It is broken, and there is no hope for fixing it. We, as a society, are so stuck on ourselves that we don't see how wrong we are; about a lot of things besides blindly following an idiot. It will burn, like everything else....

Regards,

Chris J

Hello Gotham and Everyone,

Yes, I saw the breaking news...Libby's sentence was commuted...and, no, I was not surprised..expected, just not so soon after he was supposed to show up for his stint in the "big House"...

Kind of made me laugh though..thinking...how his bosses saved this sorry behind before the had to go to the "big bad scary lockdown."

You know, what is the saddest thing about all this is that our little "Paris Hilton" has proved to be more of a MAN than the men who make up this Administraion and run this land, and who had no problem starting a war they were totally incapable of running or winning....don't forget Martha Stewart...yes, it is not as all suprising that the women of our Nation have more "balls" than the men who are running it...makes me proud of my gender...yes it does.

yes, our little "Paris Hilton" (although not without a tantrum or two) faced her music, did her time and I for one am proud of her...

Mr. Libby, lied to the grand jury, obstructed justice...was convicted.

President Bush...is a man who never held a job his daddy didn't get for him...he is a man who didn't have to fulfill his duty to the National Guard during the Vietnam War becuase he had more important "campaigning" to do for his fellow repubicans...although he has no problem sending today's National Guard to Iraq and then leaving them there for two or three tours...oh, right this is not the stuff of a man, this is the stuff of a daddy's little boy...

President Bush will go down in the history books as the great "daddy's little boy President," who Americans made the sad mistake of mis-taking him for a man. Too bad for us.

have a great day everyone, ruth

Hello again,

Scooter, probably called his bosses and said, it is, now, or come Fourth of July, I will be singing, like a little birdie, sweet love songs to the NewYorkTimes! Yes, free me now or I am gonna spill all the beans I have accumulated during my WH years and carry around with me everywhere in my very expensive briefcase that all of America as seen me carrying while being escorted to and fro my very publicized trial..I know they have seen it because they have written and want to know where I got it...but I told them to forget it...only the very rich can afford one, it is not a briefcase for the average commoner...god, I love that briefcase.

ruth

The adjectives corrupt, shameless and immoral immediately spring to mind! This administration will go down in the annals of history as one of the worst, if not the worst, in America. This president will go down as one of the worst, if not the worst!

There is clearly a double-standard: one for them and another for everyone else! But Bush is not alone in this kind of practice. President Clinton was also wrong in pardoning fugitive financier Marc Rich. President Ford was wrong in Pardoning ‘I’m not a crook’ Nixon. If, as we would like to believe, everyone is equal under the law, why are common criminals not accorded the same privilege?

During his tenure as governor of Texas, Bush never once commuted the death sentence of an inmate, even when possible DNA testing could have led to exoneration.

When the interloper in the Oval Office was a child in Texas, he enjoyed torturing and killing frogs in neighborhood fields by inserting fire crackers in the anus and blowing them up! So, why should anyone be surprised by his obvious contempt for the rule of law, due process or Habeas Corpus?

In fact, the man who wants to spread democracy around the world would rather prefer to be a dictator. How ironic!

Indeed, no one should be surprised by the Libby commutation. It was long expected!

Gotham, here are the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the key Nuremberg Principles(I told ya, I used to be an advocate for human rights)

UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Adopted and proclaimed by General Assembly resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948

On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and other educational institutions, without distinction based on the political status of countries or territories."
PREAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,
Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,
Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,
Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.
Article 1.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 4.
No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
Article 5.
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Article 6.
Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.
Article 7.
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 8.
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
Article 9.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
Article 10.
Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
Article 11.
(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
Article 12.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
Article 13.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
Article 14.
(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 15.
(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Article 17.
(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Article 20.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 21.
(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
Article 22.
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
Article 23.
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
Article 24.
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.
Article 25.
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
Article 26.
(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
(2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
Article 27.
(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
(2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
Article 28.
Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.
Article 29.
(1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
(2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 30.
Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

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Excerpts from the Nuremberg Principles:

Excerpts from the Nuremberg Principles

Principle 1
Any person who commits an act which constitues a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment.


Principle IV
The fact that a person acted in pursuant to orders from his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.


Principle VI
Crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity are punishable as crimes under international law.

a)Crimes against peace:
1) Planning, perperation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assureances.

2) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned uner (1)

Principle VII
Complicity in the commission of these carimes is itself a crime under international law. For only in the protection of fundamental human rights by international or wold law can war betweeen states be averted as the Preamble to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states.

info@worldcitizen.org


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hmm, so according the Nurember Principles, those in the USA, are all guilty of aiding and abetting, a common criminal in the White House; by NOT having him "removed." yikes!!


Luv,
North

It is not just the presidential institution that is rotting. Here are some glimpses of US judiciary:

Florida state judge John Sloop was ousted after complaints about his rude and abusive behaviour which included an order to strip search and jail 11 defendants for arriving late in court for traffic offences.

Californian judge Jose Velasquez was sacked in April for a plethora of misconduct, including extending the sentences of defendants who dared to question his rulings (We have been told that such things happens in lands like that of Saddam only)

New York judge William Carter was censored for his utterly inexcusable conduct after jumping down from the bench during a trial and challenging a defendant to a fist fighting. (jungle law in the US?) On another occasion, he suggested that the police thump the s**t out of an allegedly disrespectful defendant.

Charles Greene, chief criminal judge of Florida in Broward County had to step down after describing a trial for attempted murder involving minorities as NHI (No Humans Involved)

In Colorado, a male judge resigned after admitting to having sex with a female proecutor in his chamber.

In California, a former judge was jailed for downloading child pornography.

In Oklahoma, Donald Thomson, a judge for more than 20 years was jailed for four years for indecent exposure and using a p***s pump for master***ing during trials.( Similar to former president Clinton enjoying a blow job from Monica while discussing important matters with Yeltsin on the phone. Shouldn’t all sentences passed by this judge be re-opened and re-examined? Will one be able to keep his sense of judgement while master***ing or having an orgasm? ) – From an article in The Economist

The most interesting thing however, is the title of the article “You get what you pay for”! The author says that if judges are paid more, the problems can be solved!!

The rest of us in the world wonder what is going to come from US next!!!

inmho...drug and alchohol testing should be "mandatory" for any/all persons in government, including doctors and nurses!!

Studies show, that these 3 areas of "care" are constantly abused by drugs and/or alchohol and/or both!!

Sadly, the government has made great strides in convincing society; the problem stems from the poorer sects of society; when in fact, it is the rich, the powerful, and the medical industry; whom abuse drugs and alchohol the MOST!

Nice post, Naj!

oh..include heiress's and actress's/actors in that description...you know..those folks our children idolize?? yikes!

Har Shaakh par uloo baitha hai;
anjaam-e-gulistaan kya hoga.

Barbaad-e-gulistaan karne ko;
bas ek hi uloo kaafi hai.

(There is an owl on every branch;
wonder what is the future of such a garden.
For to destroy a garden completely;
Only ONE owl will suffice!)

Such is the state of the US today. And it is sad. Every great society has some unwritten rules that are followed with a "gentleman's" grace. They neednt be written into the books but be understood. The reason: More rules make a society rigid and therefore less successful. Unwritten rules set a tradition that is useful.

But sometimes a fool comes along and crosses all lines and in turn makes rigid rules a NECESSITY.

THAT is the start of the decline of a free and a successful society. And, just for the record, US is NOT the first "free" society. Every successful society in history was a "free" society - a melting pot!

And NORM, you may argue ad infinitum on how Bush is doing it right.. but you (and your likes) are doing nothing more than setting the stage for a spectacular decline of this free society. It is not something I think should happen.. but looking at a 5000 year old history of India - out of which 4000 years were spent on TOP .... with no other society in long view (India's share of World GDP until 1500 was roughly 30%), I can see where we all are going!

I had told a friend of mine - a Rush Limbaugh fan - that Iraq war will turn out to be singularly the GREATEST ever mistake made in US history, - when the war had just started. It did not take a genius to know that. All you had to see was a BOTCHED and a FAILED Afghan War (an entire Taliban Govt and AlQaeda leadership vanished into thin air over nite!!).

Anyways.. its none of my business... since I am still an Indian citizen and although I care deeply about the health and prosperity of the US society, I do not vote so have ZERO say in it.

Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com

yo flabs...can bushman do no wrong in ur world? boy...thank god for the 3 amigos or he would have no supporters left! what...is he subsidizing ur road trips? darn...give it up! dude has totally lost it! geee!

Desh says...

"Anyways.. its none of my business... since I am still an Indian citizen and although I care deeply about the health and prosperity of the US society, I do not vote so have ZERO say in it."

yo Desh...bro...u dont have to a US citizen to have a say! because what the US govt does have worldwide implication. no? get a hold of urself Desh!

if u want 2 c a weird man laughing just click on Desh's name! icky!

hey Diablo,
:)
~ Kate

hey Kate,
:)
~D

yo flabs...

if u want 2 c ur 'brlliant' idol...just click on Desh's name!

one flew over the coocoo's nest!

Hello Everyone,

I don't know, I just think it is kind of amusing that this President and Vice President pretty much just gives everyone who isn't "with" their program, isn't on their "page," the finger..you know the "up yours and yours and yours,,,heck, he'll just fu..ing VETO it..if he wants..heck, if he isn't the most bad bass President around..

Did you check out his explaining why he pardoned Libby..like he even had to(he was just being nice to us after giving us the finger, yesterday) he said he thought hard about it(the decision) and then he blinked 150 times...before he continued on..what is with the blinking?

Yep, this President's Administration will go down in the books as the Years of the Finger! Heck, up yours America! I'm just gonna VETO y'all...

have a great evening everyone, ruth

Bush's blinking is a subjective reaction to his own web of lies and deceipt; he's prob in shock. ppl are believing him, and that he's lasted this LONG< in an illegal presidency!!

PPL of the USA< need to find their back-bones!!

Who will be held accountable for the slaughter of millions of Iraqui's.. or, will the ppl of the USA, just sweep it under another shameful rug; with all the rest of their governmental disasters?? Like Vietnam...

oh God; ppl are so afraid to stand UP; they have become spineless, while their leader steers them towards home invasion((of course though, this is what the Bush Admin. wants!! isn't it?))

After all, the world at large KNOWS< they cannot PAY their billions of dollars of debt incurred FOR the Iraq Invasion(an innocent country, which NEVER in history--harmed, or threated to harm, not one American)

wake UP!!

The shift of power has begun--and there is NO turning back as Bush has seen to it. Prophecy is becoming fulfilled.

He'll not stop until another plane hits another sky-scraper, or poisons find their way into MORE food sources, OR the disease being injected into birds, fowl, even freekin' pet foods!!

six YEARS, americans have been murdering innocent men, women and children in Iraq--and call it defending the homeland?!! six years!! why do you think they murdered Sadam so quickly? Ooh, let's just call it--hide the evidence under that proverbial non-accountable rug?? For six long years, american soldiers have been duped into believing the lies put forth... how sad these times are, and how so very predictable the course...

Hey Ruth; in the days of OLD: soldiers used blinking to give messages--as in S.O.S??(wink) This was USED successfully by prisoners of war, when "filmed."

Bush prob gave the OK, to bomb the homeland!! After all, NO evidence on paper, fax, net or phone!!

But, I"m sure a "trained eye" could read the subliminal messages...

hey diablo - couldnt help putting this masterpiece on my site! lol

cheers,
desh
drishtikone.com

yo flabs...

up till now u had the benefit of the doubt...we thought u were were a reasonably smart dude...but by now its clear... u are not...

for u to adamantly remain kind to the nut in washington...tells...us u'ave got issues....and issues that require professional help...darn!

norm. as much as it pains me to egg him on...i must admit i agree with diablo on this one...

love and peace...melissa

ps. i would never call you flabs...

Yo
I'm not good with politics so bare with me.
I asked a question a while back, If we can't control this president how will we control the next?
Do we think we can just elect democrat and everything will be fine?
To me all the politicians are the same. The democrats are not doing anything to stop this war or any of the other countless messes. So next election we will choose between a republican or a democrat.

Who's to say Bush wont thumb his nose at us again and not leave the white house? We'll have to evict him like a bad renter.
Sounds crazy but look at Iraq. We can't get him out of Iraq!

We as Americans can not seem to control our Democracy. We have given up our power to make more money to keep up with the Jones. What ever that jones may be.

What will it take to regain control of our country?

The words on the internet are a good start but not if it is just complaining.

Most people I know complain a lot but they have no clue how to actually change anything.

peace comes from peace

derek

While in Germany my wife started to take a picture of a sculptor. An artist we met said "No, do not photograph this one. It was in memory of Hitler, we are ashamed" Then he asked if we felt the same about Bush.

Yo

derek

Hello Everyone,

To try to compare President Bush to Hitler is comparing apples to oranges...and you also make light of Hitler's atrocities...and intentions..

The intentions of this Administraion, in no way compare to the intentions of the Third Reich..

I have a lot of dislike for this Administration, for this President and Vice President, but in no way would I put them on the horrific level of Hitler and the Third Reich...

and IMHO when you compare Hitler in this way, you take away from Hitler the immense brutality with which he systematically tried to wipe out a race of people.. to actually try to wipe them of the face of the earth...to simply erase their very presence...please do not treat Hitler like he was "just" a mis-guided Politican of his times..Hitler's brutality was manifested and carried out to perfection...

ruth

looks like the rain is letting up...time to go party!

it is fair to compare him to hitler...

main dif...his invasion has not yet led to world war...what's his real reason for invading?

Ruth
It was not my intention nor the artists intention to compare Bush to Hitler.
The comparison was to the general public who allowed things to get out of control.

derek

Ruth, in political circles here in Canada--Bush is referred to as: Iraqi-exterminators--but, for WHO, is what WE are trying to figure out... and, how do YOU know, Bush isn't committing horrific, heinous crimes in Iraq--and at Guantanamo--now that HE is the ONLY elected official, to allow himself the FREEdome, to torture??

Hitler and Bush are diabolical--Hitler for his own perversions; Bush is killing millions of Iraqi ppl for what again? oh yeah.. to protect them from insurgents.. uh huh...

Al Gore’s son arrested on drug charges
24-year-old was driving Prius at about 100 mph, authorities say
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19601277/
Updated: 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
LAGUNA NIGUEL, Calif. - Al Gore’s son was arrested early Wednesday on suspicion of possessing marijuana and prescription drugs after deputies pulled him over for speeding, authorities said.
Al Gore III, 24, was driving a blue Toyota Prius about 100 mph on the San Diego Freeway when he was pulled over at about 2:15 a.m., Sheriff’s Department spokesman Jim Amormino said.
The deputies said they smelled marijuana and searched the car, Amormino said. They found less than an ounce of marijuana along with Xanax, Valium, Vicodin and Adderall, which is used for attention deficit disorder, he said.
“He does not have a prescription for any of those drugs,” Amormino said.
Gore was released from the men’s central jail in Santa Ana Wednesday afternoon after posting $20,000 bail. Amormino said Gore had yet to hire an attorney.
Kalee Kreider, a spokeswoman for his parents, did not immediately return phone messages to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
The son of the former vice president and Democratic presidential nominee also was pulled over and arrested for pot possession in December 2003, in Bethesda, Md., while he was a student at Harvard University.
He completed substance abuse counseling as part of a pretrial diversion program to settle those charges.
The youngest of Al and Tipper Gore’s four children and their only son, Gore lives in Los Angeles and is an associate publisher of GOOD, a magazine about philanthropy aimed at young people.


yup yup yup--sadly, the boy will "get off" with a slap on the wrist; when millions of other boys over the years; just like Gore's son, were jailed, lost jobs, social assistance, and marriages crumbled, blah blah blah--another case of "laws are for us" not "them."

Ruth:

"Prescott Sheldon Bush (May 15, 1895 – October 8, 1972) was a United States Senator from Connecticut and a Wall Street executive banker with Brown Brothers Harriman. He was the father of former U.S. President George H. W. Bush and the grandfather of current President George W. Bush."

"After graduation, Bush served as a field artillery captain with the American Expeditionary Forces (1917-1919) during World War I. He received intelligence training at Verdun, France, and was briefly assigned to a staff of French officers. Alternating between intelligence and artillery, Captain Bush came under fire in the Meuse-Argonne offensive. Controversially, Bush wrote home about receiving medals for heroic exploits. His letters were later published in Columbus newspapers, but were retracted a few weeks later when it was revealed that he, in fact, had not received such medals. The retraction was made in a cable in which Bush stated that his earlier letter had been written "in a spirit of fun" and was not intended for publication."

~ Wikipedia


B.S. seems to be a genetic trait.

~ L.P.B.


"The Bushes moved to Columbus, Ohio, in 1923, where Prescott Bush went to work for the Hupp Products Company, where his business efforts generally failed."

~ Wikipedia


Failure seems to be a genetic trait.

~ L.P.B.


"He left in November, 1923 to become president of sales for Stedman Products in South Braintree, Massachusetts. It was during this time that he lived in a Victorian home at 173 Adams Street in Milton, Massachusetts, where his son, the future president, George H.W. Bush, was born."

"In 1924, Bush was made a vice-president of Harriman & Co. by his father-in-law, George Herbert Walker, to help supervise the new Thyssen/Flick United Steel Works. Also employed by the company were Roland Harriman and Knight Woolley, Yale classmates and Skull & Bones members, with Bush."

"Bush was involved with the eugenics promoting American Birth Control League as early as 1942, and served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood in 1947."


"Bush's moderate politics became more complicated in time. In terms of issues he often agreed with New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller, but personally disliked and politically opposed him, despite the close relationship his father Samuel P. Bush had with the Rockefeller family. When Rockefeller divorced his first wife and remarried to a woman about twenty years his junior with whom he had been having an affair while married to his first wife, a scandal that hurt his campaign for the 1964 Republican nomination for President, Bush denounced Rockefeller."

"Bush was also in staunch opposition to the Kennedy family, and especially President Kennedy's maternal grandfather John "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald."

"Harriman Bank was the main Wall Street connection for German companies and the varied U.S. financial interests of Fritz Thyssen, who had been an early financial backer of the Nazi party until 1938, but who by 1939 had fled Germany and was bitterly denouncing Hitler."

"President Franklin Roosevelt's Alien Property Custodian, Leo T. Crowley, signed Vesting Order Number 248 seizing the property of Prescott Bush under the Trading with the Enemy Act."

"Toby Rogers has claimed that Bush's connections to Silesian businesses (with Thyssen and Flick) make him complicit with the mining operations in Poland which used slave labor out of Auschwitz, where the Auschwitz concentration camp was later constructed.

The New York Herald-Tribune referred to the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, as "Hitler's Angel" and mentioned Bush as an employee of the investment banking firm Thyssen used in the USA. The underlying importance is Hitler's known ideology; intelligent business partners like Bush and Thyssen and Harriman clearly knew who they were doing business with and were willing to do so. Thyssen's "autobiography" is entitled I Paid Hitler.

Some records in the National Archives, including the Harriman papers, document the continued relationship of Brown Brothers Harriman with Thyssen and some of his German investments up until his 1951 death. Investigator John Loftus has said, "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averell Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany." Two former slave laborers from Poland have filed suit in London against the government of the United States and the heirs of Prescott Bush in the amount of $40 billion. A class-action lawsuit filed in the U.S. in 2001 was dismissed based on the principle of state sovereignty."

"The assets were held by the government for the duration of the war, then returned afterward. UBC was dissolved in 1951. Prescott Bush was on the board of directors of UBC and held one share in the company. For it, he was reimbursed $1,500,000. These assets were later used to launch Bush family investments in the Texas energy industry."

~Wikipedia


Ruth:

What makes you think that this isn't feudal payback?

What makes you think Bush and friend aren't attempting to wipe out the entire Moslem population?

North:

Your belly-aching probably gives you more of a pain in the butt then us butt.....

If your gonna attempt to sound like a human rights advocate by cutting and pasting from the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the key Nuremberg Principles" then take the time out to think before you stick your bitter foot into your bitter mouth.

According to this "international" declaration, you. I and everyone breathing on the planet today is "complicit" in Bushes "evil" plan. Take some responsibility and stop the pity party.

Stop looking outside for the comfort you will never find out here in what ails you.

Canadian Military has been in Iraq from day one.

By the way ruth:

"Eugenics is a social philosophy which advocates the improvement of human hereditary traits through various forms of intervention. The goals of various groups advocating eugenics have included the creation of healthier, more intelligent people, to save society's resources, and lessen human suffering, as well as desires to breed for optimal qualities."

~Wikipedia

Sounds kinda like "final solution" "arryian" propoganda to me.

Hello LBJ,

That was an interesting piece on the Bush history. I seem to recall reading that there were a number of American Corporations involved with Nazi Germany...Same as is today with many Corportions, American and European, who support, say, the Government of Sudan.

you ask,"What makes you think Bush and friend aren't attempting to wipe out the entire Moslem population"

Well, for one, the Muslim Extreme's are pretty much doing a superb job of killing their own, and with a lot more gusto.

have a great day, ruth..

Hello LBP,

sorry, bout the LBJ,,,had politics on the old brain..(haha) LBP,LBP,LBP..think I got it now.

have a very good day, ruth

well, well, looks like ruthie needs some new glasses...

LPB...maybe a little more coffee will do the trick..

LPB, LPB, LPB, LPB.....:)

LPB--is that why you posted lots of wikipedia crap? take your own advice boyo--you are targeting the wrong terrorist...the terrorists live in your country and the usa...at the TOP!

Poooor, LPB--he's so frustrated, he has to make my posts on "facts" sound "personal"? nah, LPB--everyone can see you are King of the pity-pot around here... and wikipedia posts!!

that guy is a fraud~!

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