Sounds good Dr. Singh!

Peace

"Their experiments showed that the blind following of religious rituals/beliefs, memorized information and knowledge of scriptures, and physical/worldly (penances, fasting, yoga postures etc.) pursuits were ineffective in realization of the wholesome universal reality (God)." ~ Avtar

I respectfully disagree in full. And this is why. I believe that the practices laid down by our ancestors leads to awareness or awakening. For example Christians, praying before reading the Bible can do this, as one stays in meditation while reading and afterwards, if they so choose. In meditation, one is able to connect to the truth. However, if one does not have a tool (the Bible in this case to trigger the brain to reach the one mind) they will find it extremely difficult to reach enlightenment. Maybe other faiths don't have this issue?

Therefore, I believe that Avtar is referring to his way of enlightenment and the tools that his ancestors utilized, but by no means should anything be taken away from the path of the Christian enlightenment. Each are apparently valid and have worked for those willing to go the distance. I cannot verify Avtar's way, but I can share the Christian path, which is just as valid.

Well, that's my only objection and I really enjoyed the post very much and will put my best foot forward to understand another's faith. However, I did not feel a oneness in Avtar's post in this area, as it seemed separated. That's my honest opinion, as I do not intend to insult. So thanks as I am learning as well by these posts of Avtar.

Love, Char

You know I have a hard time reading easily your words. I think maybe you are coming from a different tradition than I. I never heard of this holistic approach and words associated with it.
But something came to mind when you mention the 96% and the 4%:
On the second page of my daughter's astronomy text there is a graph of the entire electromagnetic spectrum. Just estmating, but the visible light wavelengths represent about an 80th of the spectrum.
Now if our 5 senses only gather such a limited amount, and we know that more is out there, then our mind would be the next best tool to learn how to use.
How do we know there is more out there when we are so limited? Because the finite is infinite in its manifestations, but the Infinite is just One.

Hey Avtar, Why don't you write up the specifications for Warp Drive? This science spirituality issue like most is just an ego diversion one of those entanglement functions Harb talks about.

We need to be careful about the appearances. For example many scientists think a light bulb radiates light, what is really going on is that it is a vacuum and it SUCKS in DARKTONS. If you have a room full of darktons you can’t see a thing. But soon as you suck them out you can see everything. This is the 19th mention of darktons on the Internet, so a few others have thought about this.

I wonder if I will be remembered for my thought experiments and intuitions like Einstein is.

Here comes one..

I have been playing with this for some time now, different new original fresh perspectives which may lead to discovery and expanded awareness.

This is a buildup to the great revelation but not the 180 degree reversal in perception that is both disturbing and liberating as seen in Infinite Play. It’s a 90 degree change in perception. It helps to build a neural framework for understanding the true nature of the universe beyond the appearances.

It is part of the endeavor to prove my theory that the expanding universe is not a function of stars and galaxies traveling but a function of space expanding. The active component is not non-space but space. In fact the big bangs (stateful universe aside) are the rapid expansion of space and the creation of non-space elements.

Life’s great magic trick is possible because the objects capture out attention and that is where we look, totally disregarding the importance and activity of space. Space is the only observable active element in the universe. That the objects (non-space) appear to be the active elements is an illusion.

A photon flying through space is not actually moving. On one side of the vector of travel space is expanding. On the other side space is collapsing. It is space that is moving not the photon.

This is part of how I solved Zeno’s paradox. Zeno Paradox is all about how it is mathematically impossible to travel. The reason being is that it is impossible to traverse an infinite number of fractional distances which would be necessary for travel to occur. Orthodox scientists however deny the math and point to the bird flying across the sky and say “look empirical evidence of travel”. My take is that it is the appearance of travel. Now there is more to this story divulged in the 180 degree revelation which comes later but we should remember that science has now determined that photons and electrons don’t always travel they tunnel and more or less disappear and reappear somewhere else. Also Phi and other irrational numbers are not a fractional distance.

Space the Final Frontier - Space the driving force of the universe – The properties of space.

Of course everything is connected, it is connected by space.

When you jump up off the ground, you have infinite space on one side and a foot of space on the other side. You have effectively expanded the space between you and the earth.

The weight of the infinite -space above is, although infinitesimal, greater than the resistance of the -space below which is virtually zero. This results in a collapse of the space between your feet and the earth. This also gives space a rubber band effect and is the cause of oscillation or vibration. It is more accurate to say that the whole space between two bodies (non-space or impure space or un-whole space) to collapse. With the propensity of space collapse equal to the square of the distance multiplied by Phi or something like that, with the rate of collapse equal to momentum. This directly correlates to the phantom momentum of the either of the two objects separated by space

The shortest distance between two objects is a space vector. A single object maintains a space vector with every other object or property manifestation in the universe. The sum of space vectors and their propensities determines the vector of flow or the vector of space collapse.

When non-space (Infinite properties minus (1 | 1+ X) is in a state of space equilibrium there is no movement and the non-space appears stationary in relation to other non-space. This is like white light which contains all the color frequencies. When an object repels a particular frequency of the whole light it is said to have that color. Space contains all properties.

Every object has finite space vectors and infinite space vectors. When there is a balance between the sum of a group of finite and infinite space vectors there is no space collapse.

An axis of space creates a flow of information a linear processing vector or a point of the present or presence which is the cross point of vectors. This is can be referred to as an Observer Vector. If you take an infinite space vector and divide it or disrupt it with non-space fields finite vectors are created.

There is an exception and that is a single non-space dimensionless (field less) singularity which we will call awareness or being both noun and verb. In this this special case non-space is surrounded by infinite space vectors. As soon one other non-space entity is added “finite” space vectors are created.

Remember as we learn from the Infinite Play web site all Being both noun and verb exists at universal coordinates 0,0,0. This is why no matter where you are in the universe the rest of it is expanding away from you in all directions. We should also remember the difference between a universe of nothing and a NULL universe. The NULL universe precedes the creator; however this has no bearing or ramifications in a stateful universe.

When an object appears (creation of non-space) it creates a disturbance in the infinite space field creating finite space vectors.

A universe with no objects is full of an infinite number of infinite space vectors. As soon as an object (non-space) manifests it creates an interference pattern transforming some infinite space vectors into finite space vectors manifesting a reference point and creating time and the potential for energy.

Therefore an object is actually the point or disruption on an infinite space vector.

Wave collapse and space collapse are as quantum physics is to relativity.

God is not a man of force but a Being of gravity.

When you push an object (rapidly collapse the space between you and it) you actually have triggered a space collapse and expansion which is movement. The initial space collapse (your push) triggers a reciprocal space expansion on the side of the original collapse which would be the finite space vector and a reciprocal space collapse on the far side generally the infinite space vector in relation to the instigator of the space expansion / collapse. So as you can see there are three parts to this, a single part giving birth to the other two parts. A space collapse gives rise to a reciprocal space expansion and a collapse, a multiplication of the original action, an output of energy exceeding the input. Remember though that space manipulation requires zero energy. It is the disruption of the equilibrium of space that creates measurable energy.

Intention is what manipulates space.

As you walk down the street not only are you collapsing the space between you and your destination you are concurrently manipulation an infinite number of other space vectors. Imagine a sphere is surrounding your body. Every point on the sphere represents a space vector some being infinite and some being finite depending the coordinates of other non space fields in the field of infinite space.

Going to the Moon.

As a man stands on the earth looking to the moon. He sees a great expanse of space between himself and the moon and a micrometer of atomic scale space between his feet and the earth. His desire and subsequent intention is to collapse the space between himself and the moon and to expand the space between his body and the earth. We remember though that in order to create a space collapse expansion event it requires non-space. This requires a non-space vehicle as it explains below. What happens is the intention begins the collapse of space between the man and the moon; however one must overcome the initial inertia of space which sets off the steps to create a rocket ship which can take a while if combustion engines have not manifested yet.

One of natural inherent functions of space is maintaining a state of equilibrium, space constantly readjusts itself to achieve the state of equilibrium. Just like the surface of a lake may have waves it will eventually naturally settle to be a flat surface .An occurrence of non-space creates the opposite a disturbance or non-equilibrium. As space attempts to restore equilibrium what we call energy is produced.

Many people assume a combustion engine is designed to when attached to a frame propel itself thought space. In reality the combustion engine creates the quantum mechanics necessary to collapse space creating the appearance of it being propelled. The operator acts not on the combustion engine but on space.

Another law of space is that when space collapses it also expands somewhere of equal proportion and rate. A smaller body vector of space has a propensity to merge with a larger vector body of space. So in our jumping example the space below your feet is actually merging with the space above you when you fall back to earth. The space above you has actually expanded. It is space that travels up to join the other infinite portion of space. Contrary to popular belief your body does not fall to earth, it is stationary. the space This is gravity. Gravity is not really a force it is the coalescing of space.

Space the final frontier. All non-space is stationary only space moves.

When you reach for something you are not moving your hand. You are collapsing the space between your hand and the glass. The resulting chemical reactions are powered by the expansion and contraction of space.

Since space is made of nothing it is easy to manipulate requiring zero energy which is not measurable because it is infinite. But this in fact produces the appearance of measurable energy allowing non-space to appear to move. The chemical reactions in your arm are the result of and powered by the collapse of space between your hand and the glass. It is the manipulation of space requiring no force that creates the effect of energy and force. This is why energy comes from space or nothing manifesting as non-space.

When you are traveling to a destination is an act of collapsing the space between you and you destination. You are not actually traveling. It is space that is moving. Doing a collapse and expansion function. The space between you and your origination is expanding the space between you and your destination is collapsing. Creating the appearance that non-space is moving.

Nothing has all properties. Nothing therefore has properties. Nothing is nothing like anything we ever thought or assumed it to be. Space another term for nothing is really everything

Space is the most solid uniform thing in the universe. While space can occupy objects and form, objects and form non-space cannot occupy space. Space is inseparable and can only be displaced by non-space. When space is filtered it becomes non-space. When a observer reference unit of space exhibits all properties it is genuine pure space. When certain properties are turned off it becomes non-space or non-whole observer reference units.

Much like an iron cannonball dropped in a pool, water does not occupy the space occupied by the iron ball. Water displacement and space displacement are very similar.

The space operator functions at both the micro and macro levels. It is the connection or shared factor between quantum and relative worlds.

Just like in music it is not the notes played it is the space in between the notes that makes the music.

Space is time, the space between leading edges of a wave is time. So it is space and non-space that creates time.

The collapse of space is what creates energy, or rather is energy. The effects of space collapse on non-space energy literally happens in the non-space.

YOU ARE SPACE. Being and space are intimately connected and one does not exist without the other. It consciousness creates non-space.

An infinite space vector curves and space is spherical meaning the space that begins in front of you ends behind you.

The evolution of space manipulation.
When we are born as infants we have no space manipulation skills but we soon learn them. Humanity in it’s evolution has increased it’s mastery of space collapse and expansion. First we had the combustible engine and the car leading to the rocket all born of attention to collapse space, travel at greater rates with grand scale space vectors as the clock source.

The human body is dependant on a multitude and combination of finite and infinite space vectors between various other non-space entities. In order for the observer to be involved in large scale or mammoth space expand collapse events it needs a vehicle to maintain local space vector relationships and non-space provisions. Failure to do so results in disruption and or dissolution of the local non-space token used to represent the conscious observer.

An illusion has no detail or foundation if we look to see the detail of the illusion the illusion disappears. Anything that appears can also disappear. The only thing that does not appear is space or nothing. Space and consciousness create non-space.

Space becomes non-space via a filter and projection process operating as a single function initiated by consciousness. Filtering and projection have the same effect and are really the same thing.

Space is the information carrier or the medium upon and through which information travels, the photon. There can be no information flow without space.

When you rapidly collapse and expand the space between your hands it creates the illusion your hands are moving. Either way it is still clapping.

And of course the sound of one hand clapping is silence.

I see Life as a living, flowing experience and not an experiment either scientific or spiritual. Life is a verb...a circular and flowing expression of spirit and in the expression is enfoldment of consciousness.

Generate cause
love...express...witness...effects...adjust...
generate cause
love...express...witness...effects...adjust...
in an enfolding universe.

The scientific and mathematical themes to this dynamic flow is secondary to me. Why? Because I am very right-brained and my nature is round not linear. As a result my orientation and language is different.

Flow and being is feminine; doing and achieving is masculine. How do opposites bridge and find common ground?

Trish~~

Richard, thank you!

Dear Trish, you say it so beautifully:

Generate cause
love... be

express... do

witness... be

effects... do

adjust... be

Here is my simple explanation:

It is the same as Richard explains, space cannot be without non-space.

"Flow and being is feminine; doing and achieving is masculine. How do opposites bridge and find common ground?"

The opposites cannot be without one another, so they constantly bridge by doing and being.

When one meditates, one can become aware of one's breathing, it is the same flowing or movement, breathing in and breathing out.

It is this spontaneous movement from zero point energy that harmoniously causes the doing and being, not only in one's body but in the whole Universe.

I understand it, but you can read here how difficult it is to bring it into words!

In this world at the moment there is perhaps too much doing and too little being :)

Mieke

Whoa! I sense a 'Babel tower' story here...and a collapse! (confession)

There must be an easier way to realise ourselves in others....well there is *that,* Trish, but it *dies* with us. (F/M)
Is it *time* to bring *death/collapse* down to earth or up to speed, Richard, or have I a confusion of languages going now.

....collapses into an armchair

---
We may therefore regard matter as being constituted by the regions of space in which the field is extremely intense....There is no place in this new kind of physics both for the field and matter, for the field is the only reality
---Albert Einstein

Buddhist sutra:

Form is emptiness, and emptiness is indeed form. Emptiness is not different from form, form is not different from emptiness. What is form that is emptiness, what is emptiness that is form.

The Great Void cannot but consist of ch'i; this ch'i cannot but condense to form all things; and these things cannot but become dispersed so as to form(once more) the Great Void.
--Chang Tsai

Tranquil, let one worship it
As that from which he came forth,
As that into which he will be dissolved,
As that in which he breaths
---The Upanishads

I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble.
All of these concepts whether you classify them as spiritual or scientific are rendered inoperative and transitory by Pure Consciousness.
Even concepts such as ego, self, I, light and love. These are all temporary seemingly stable
manifestations of Pure Potential.
Patterns for the (Time Being).
Todd

Last night when I was responding on this blog I got the sense of space as "holy spirit" or this morning as "shekinah".

In this world of space/time play (an actual playing field) there is a sensation of breathing or expressing cause that fills up the moment and in so doing something returns as effect. An ebb and flow rhythm in space/time.

Is this a scientific experiment? Is this a spiritual experiment? No, it's life force expressing to fill out and fill in space/time. It's a serpentine 8 dance! Kundalini, is that you?

"Sensation" is the difference. Experiment orientation seeks something outside oneself through information. Outside in is not where life originates. Outside in is the grand illusion. We, as sacred human beings, are co-creators not inventors. We as sacred human beings are returning to Source, to Truth, to heal ourselves and our Mother planet.

I'm interested in having a high quality experience where all my parts: spirit body, heart body, mental body, feeling body, physical body are in love with each other. I want to experience rapture within my own playing field and that includes beings from diverse realms.

This chopra blog nourishes me in its play as people respond from many angles in a whole spectrum. My bodies respond or not. I appreciate this playing field that stimulates new awareness within.

What is your day like? My day is filled: I submit paperwork for my passport; I meet a woman friend with Caring Hearts International who is donating a Nigerian dress with accessories for our auction at work; I pick up a donated quilt; I enter data in Raiser's Edge; I assist my daughter with her PTA book fair; I see my grandkids; I hopefully buy new slacks because my old ones don't fit anymore (one advantage to not being able to eat all the carbs I used to). What fills up the space in between these actions? Threads of Being!!!

I intend to wrap these "events" with holy spirit and shekinah...a glory day! And that is not so mysterious and metaphysical. It's simply light and fun. I love this flight...even with its down times when I feel completely alone and sad. Such is the ebb and flow of a universe filled with Grace.

Trish~~

Mieke #9:

Hey, thanks for the feedback. I see that my words this morning are linked to your words about "breathing". Fun!

Edmund #10:

I experienced "collapse" and "death" recently. It's part of the creative process. But life always follows....always! I have to go into that deep and dark place of sadness and feeling so very alone. It's part of this dark matter life. To resist that opposite (like winter compared to summer) is to deny part of myself. I don't like it much but that's beside the point and I do know the cycle well. It's the dance of 8...serpentine.

Richard:

Is there a point in the breathing cycle when we experience "death"? A point where everything stands still before new action is taken? Is it a pivotal point taking one to the next level of awareness and the next moment?

Trish~~

Space is an illusion.
Does space exist in a dream?
It appears to until you wake up and realize it
was a projection of consciousness.
The same holds true for The Waking Dream.
Todd

Very few have freed themselves from the enthralling Cosmic Dance of Illusion.
Todd

To be more awake while dreaming.......and more dreaming while awake.

Dr. Singh:

Another great post!! Just outstanding. Personally, I do believe in the story that Jesus spent his lost years in India/Tibet. Of all the protagonists in the Mid East/Jerusalem and the religions that started there.. Jesus seems to be the ONLY guy who "Got it". He alone is heads and shoulders above the rest.. in that he transcends all barriers and definitely the narrow tribal mentality that is so symptomatic of most "Prophets" and "Saints" of that period and region.

Char: Avtar's post has nothing to do with any religion or faith. It goes beyond all that. If faith was so important an ingredient, then why wouldn't have Jesus, Buddha and Nanak followed the faith they were born in? Why did they "take off" to realize the truth in their own way?

Mostly people mistake temporary calming of mind with "Enlightenment" - and that is the greatest danger in following.

People of faith are constantly trying to find a FReedom "from" something.. XYZ.. a freedom "from" something is another form of attachment "To" something. Freedom just "is".

Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com

Dear Desh,
and everyone :)
We are meant to live in freedom, but from the moment we are born, we are entangled in life, which is teeming with duality.

It can take a long to time to disengage from the everyday challenges and 'chatter' of our thoughts and relationships to - get to the place of freedom.

I embrace the awe and mystery of the Universe and this life I have and appreciate the vastness of creation! It is so delightful. Indeed, the pristine state of awareness is Happiness.

Can you imagine life in a different form?

love,
~ Kate

All that hurt my brain :-) ... joking aside, that's a pretty interesting post of Richard's.

"When you are traveling to a destination is an act of collapsing the space between you and you destination. You are not actually traveling. It is space that is moving. Doing a collapse and expansion function. The space between you and your origination is expanding the space between you and your destination is collapsing. Creating the appearance that non-space is moving." ~ Richard

Maybe the above is one way to explain what happened to me a 5 years old, when I believed that I died briefly.

I was in the car with my family looking at everything moving, but I was not moving, nor do I recall having any kind of body such as spirit or light ... nothing. However, I was aware. It was the strangest experience and I've only had that one once.

Love, Char

"Last night when I was responding on this blog I got the sense of space as "holy spirit" or this morning as "shekinah". ~ Trish

I liked that and it might be more like spirit (space) and shekinah/light (non-space) in union.

Love, Char

Desh,

Faith to me means trust. I can see when people attempt to communicate, many times the very same words we use (such as 'faith') have different meanings to different people.

It's everything about religion (a tool for spiritual growth) in one sense for many people such as Christians, Muslims, etc that have specific beliefs, which is a part of the whole. The terminology needs to be more neutral and I did not perceive that. So I spoke up. Oneness cannot be explained by throwing out it's parts. It has to all work together

I know what Avtar means and I understand what he is sharing and I do not disagree with that part. I was just drawing attention to the process and method being used, so I spoke up. Like you did. I think his writing is very good, but I added my inputs on what I felt would make it better. Nobody is forcing anyone to agree or disagree. So let's agree that we all disagree at times .... who doesn't and it seems that most disagree anyway on just about everything, as we all try to reach unity.

Love, Char

Or better yet, depending on what spirit means and who it is used as I used it above with completely different meanings .... so I think 'soul' or 'essence' for me would be a better word for space, even though I really liked Richard's definitions too. But if one uses Spirit as God, then I guess Spirit could be space. That's a crazy and wild concept of Richard's and I just love it.

Love, Char

"Their experiments showed that the blind following of religious rituals/beliefs,........ "

So what is Bhakta Yoga? Are Bhakta Yogees concerned about this holistic relativity ? If they are not, will they not be able to realize the wholesome universal reality, as you call it ?

Though imitative acceptance of faith is most certainly an impediment in removing the veils, full dedication towards what is in your mind will surely show you the path. There are historical examples.

As to rituals, for most human beings, a change in the exterior, ie following a certain system of discipline, is the precursor for internal change (why do you think we have prisons?) An analogy is the case of a carpenter who firstly learns/tries with his hands and then becomes a master. ie when he tries with his hands, something, you may call it craft in this case, moves towards his 'heart' if he is fully devoted to the work in which the hands/body are engaged in. In this way, gradually, heart achieves mastery over the art and this mastery is then reflected thru his/her hands and the corresponding attributes are manifested in the exterior world. In the divine dimension, this is the relevance of rituals or any other work we engage.

"memorized information and knowledge of scriptures.....",

True but one should not forget that we are able to enjoy instrumental music (without any lyrics and thus no grasping of 'meaning') and to even 'forget' ourselves by listening it.

"Their experiments showed that the blind following of religious rituals/beliefs,...were ineffective in realization of the wholesome universal reality (God)."

Can you elaborate? What were their experiment and how did it proove that it is ineffective? Will the noble eight fold path, of which right action is one among them, be ineffective ?

And if it actually showed what you say, what were the effective methods they proposed?

Char #20 sounds like you experienced reality. Wait till you read the 180 degree reversal in perception.

I used to have this expereince when I was small driving in the back of the car with my eyes closed all the sound environmental noise would turn off for a minute or two. Then it would come back on.

Trish,

Not sure. Breathing is like a wave function and there is that pause.

Depends on the definition of death. Change of form, discontinuation of a stream of consciousness. We could also look at it all from an information flow perspective.

I think we die every night, and return to the source, ego less, when we sleep, at least from one perspective.

Most of the time when I am sleeping I am conscious although disconnected from my body and environment. I used to dream of various activities and places, now my mind does something more like information processing, narrating or generating knowledge.

What I do know is that I have two levels of comprehension that I switch back and forth between. It is very hard to retain the knowledge that is well understood in the state of super consciousness but virtually ungraspable with my waking state of mind.

Mieke, your welcome that was a mental exercise that may prove to have some validity.

I have been wondering lately about the fact that a vortex creates a singularity. A singularity in one fashion being a point where some property is infinite. We can all identify with the EYE of a hurricane, still and calm surrounded by turbulence.

I wonder if the singularity of an energy vortex at the nanoscale might create the appearance of a particle.

No matter how still you sit, you are always traveling…

The Einstein quote of the day happens to be..

Innovation is not the product of logical thought, even though the final product is tied to a logical structure.

Hey Richard
.......more dreaming while awake.

derek

Thanks Char & Richard. Your views help me see/understand myself better. As if we are reflecting each other in a crystal community constellation.

I had an "ah-ha" moment today driving on the freeway. A moment when inspiration and information hit and spark like two wires crossing.

I got that humans are conduits for kundalini force that downloads through the body in spiral circuits of 8 and connects with Earth core. Then the force uploads and moves back out.

It's as if humans are acupressure points for Mother Earth. And she needs us as conduits for her sustainability.

"According to traditional Chinese medicine acupoints work by stimulating the meridian system to bring about relief by rebalancing yin, yang and qi (also spelled "chi")."

So what is the difference between chi, prana, spirit and kundalini? Are they different words for the same energetic flow. Or are they different vibrations downloading and uploading through our life support systems?

I think of kundalini as having an intimate connection with Earth body -- the one I live in and the one I live on.

Trish~~

Okay then, I'll settle for Kate and Char, there in the heart of it all. There's a lot of it about and infinite room for it, however we may shape it, but we only truly meet at zero.

Hi Richard,

"I wonder if the singularity of an energy vortex at the nanoscale might create the appearance of a particle."

Well, i guess it is exactly at that spot where spontaneity resides :)

And the Eureka's come from there. This is what i have experienced quite often, not only during meditation but also when I am "busy" waking up in the morning.

I always immediately write down what is coming in my mind at those moments and sometimes that are great insights that are exactly meant for that moment i am in, if you understand what i mean :).

I can imagine that this is the way Geniuses get their spontaneous intuitive "solution". But that then is true at every level. So in fact, we all are Geniuses :)

Mieke

Happy Holidays, Avtar!

If Dave Hall were here, he would tell us all about the missing years of

a man (perhaps it was Jesus) who thoroughly undertook

one initiation after another until He gained all the powers

That Be (Omnipotence). See: The Nine Faces Of Christ, by Eugene Whitworth

or: The Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East(Spalding)

.

On another note...someone once said,

"If a fool would but continue in his folly, he would become wise."

But I'm just guessing, personally. Too-da-loo!

.

Dear Kate,

#19 is wonderful, and completely ~Kate, as we have come to know her.

Good to see that you have been able to keep up your spirits!

Caretakers must remember to preserve their own health.

I know you know that. Please do so, Princess. Luvz!

.

Char4,

It's good to see you asserting your highest self as it stands.

Stability is not necessarily necessary, is it?

Perhaps, it is essentially essential.

Feeling eccentric, it's Friday!

Cheers! Uncle Tree

Alas I have always liked Sir Bertrand Russell's take on science and spirituality:

"Religion is based, I think, primarily and mainly upon fear. It is partly the terror of the unknown and partly, as I have said, the wish to feel that you have a kind of elder brother who will stand by you in all your troubles and disputes. Fear is the basis of the whole thing -- fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. It is because fear is at the basis of those two things. In this world we can now begin a little to understand things, and a little to master them by help of science, which has forced its way step by step against the Christian religion, against the churches, and against the opposition of all the old precepts. Science can help us to get over this craven fear in which mankind has lived for so many generations. Science can teach us, and I think our own hearts can teach us, no longer to look around for imaginary supports, no longer to invent allies in the sky, but rather to look to our own efforts here below to make this world a better place to live in, instead of the sort of place that the churches in all these centuries have made it."

Just words for thought true believers . . .

Peace

Amen, empyrius :)

Our heart is our temple, no need for outer temples. Friendliness is the way in a spontaneous decay :)

When YOU are, I am NOT

Why are we born without seeing our face?
because looking into the eyes of the other is our grace.

I wish you true Happiness and Peace!

Mieke

Richard,

You know about the “Sacred Geometry”.?

Have a look at the videos here:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dr.+Hans+Jenny&search=Search

Dr. Hans Jenny, amongst others a natural scientist, from Switzerland has been experimenting with fluids in round spheres, directing loudspeakers that produce pure sounds of the scale to them. Attached to the fluids were colloids, small substances that could make the vibration patterns visible. And guess what happened when the pure tones sounded: in the sphere all Platonic forms manifested themselves as standing wave patterns!

New insights are arising in physics and our Universe seems to exist as a unity, one vibrating ether field in which everything is connected with everything.

For the first time some progressive scientists seem to acknowledge the Sacred Geometry as the key of unity or oneness in our existence.

It is the counterpart from the Ancients of the contemporary quest of physics, inspired by Einstein, to find a balancing theory of everything, the ultimate Holy Grail of physics.

Mieke

Dear Richard:

#6:

According to Einstein’s theory of specific relativity, measured distance (length of manifested objects not space) and time shrink with increasing relative speed between the observer and the observed.

And at velocities V=C, the speed of light, measured distance and time both dilate to zero. However, the inherent space (universal consciousness) does not shrink; it is needed for the realities or universal laws to reside in an un-manifested state of pure existence – eternal and omnipresent.

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Dear Naj:

#24:

“…So what is Bhakta Yoga? Are Bhakta Yogees concerned about this holistic relativity? If they are not, will they not be able to realize the wholesome universal reality, as you call it?

What were their experiments and how did it prove that it is ineffective? Will the noble eight fold path, of which right action is one among them, be ineffective?

And if it actually showed what you say, what were the effective methods they proposed?”

You have raised some very important questions above, whose answers represent the crux of the most important scientific insights of the consciousness-integrated Holistic Relativity. I will address these in the follow on main entry post.

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Love
Avtar

Aye Amen Mieke

Peace

They are and they are not. it depends on who answers the question.

They are and they are not. it depends on who answers the question.

Richard #26:

Hey, what do you think about this from Wikipedia. Check out "declination". Isn't it similar to breathing (wave function as you put it) and ebb flow pattern in that there is a point when one turns into the other? In that turning there must be a stopping point...like death and "collapse" to use Edmund's word. I can relate to this pattern because of the ups/downs in my experience. Ups and downs that spiral rather than stagnate.

Wikipedia: "A solstice occurs twice a year, whenever Earth's axis tilts the most toward or away from the Sun, causing the Sun to be farthest north or south at noon. The name is derived from Latin sol (sun) and sistere (to stand still), because at the solstice, the Sun stands still in declination, that is, its movement north or south is minimal. The term solstice can also be used in a wider sense as the date (day) that such a passage happens. The solstices, together with the equinoxes, are related to the seasons. In some languages they are considered to start or separate the seasons; in others they are considered to be center points (in English, in the Northern hemisphere, for example, the period around the June solstice is known as midsummer, and Midsummer's Day is 24 June, about three days after the solstice itself)."

Trish~~

dear Mieke and Craig,
The heart connections are the most wonderful!
love to you both,
~ Kate

dear Avtar,
Unconditional love is a powerful healer, if one can attain that level of feeling/awareness all the time. 'tis a challenge, but a worthy one!

love,
~ Kate