SMOKING HOT! I want that book now!
YEAH BABY!

Aloha Deepak

I hope it is audio too.... and I totally agree with Trish: SMOKING HOT! love patty

Aloha Deepak

My first post didn't show... I tired to correct a mistake:) which of course is a misdirected miracle:) love the invisible:).... But I too like Tammy think it is Smoking Hot... hopefully it will be audio too! love patty

oops there it is (((((Tammy))))) sorry... love patty

Everything comes in threes, Patty ;)
U2 Jesus!

Passing into this material christ-eve...

I forgot I needed to get back home
I forgot the meaning to get back home
I forgot the reality of being home

No, I forgot myself
And I cried and received tears-blessings by my inner-child...

Happy Holidays to you Deepak and your family!
Please, give a warm huge to Mallika for me!

Tammy and Patty I agree with "Smoking Hot" and especially appreciate the way Deepak Uses "I" more than "you" in his discussion. It's more personal that way as if he is telling his story from the inside out and not speaking down to his audience. I apppreciate when a speaker is one with their audience. It reveals a genuine intention space.

And thanks, Deepak, for sending positive emissions over air and cyber waves! Emissions that lift spirits!

Trish~~

Dear Deepak,

I watched your video with Father Beck, and you were very impressive in your explanations until that question about "hope" came up and you said that we must go beyond hope and despair and implied that hope was not a good thing.You went on to say that Faith was the place to be, and brought real freedom. Then a minute later Father Beck asked you if you had any New Year's resolutions and you said Yes, I "hope" to reach critical mass with the message of Jesus. Using hope this way sounded like a complete contradiction of your previous statement, shouldn't you have said I have faith that we will reach critical mass?

Just wondering what was going on in your mind?

Kind Regards,
Stan

Dear Stan,

to me, it didn't sound like a contradiction. If you have a moment, I'll try to explain why.

First of all, hope and despair are neither good nor bad, they are simply illusions, because they express the perspective of a person separate from existence who may or may not have a say and may or may not survive a particular challenge.

Faith on the other hand is neither hope nor belief, it is knowing. It is that inner experiential knowingness we all have if we are aware of our own essence, which is existence itself. So faith is a place of truth, while hope is a place of illusion.

To me, Deepak's sentences at the end were his way of not denying his humanity, expressing that he hopes that this particular action will be the drop that tips the balance. As individuals, we can't know what exact impact our actions will have, and I think all the millions of people who are working from and for oneness today - hope - that their action will make that difference. But from the perspective of being human we can't know, all we can do is act without expectations, and act anchored in the faith which is unshakable when you can clearly see that everyone's essence is and has always been beyond any and all suffering.

To me, Stan, it is about the message: be in the world but not of it. This means, to me: be fully human with all that it contains, accept and embrace vulnerability, loss, emotions, contradictions, conflicts, challenges, growth, hope, despair and all the rest... but through it all, be anchored in the divinity that you are. And this is what I saw Deepak doing.

Dearest Aurora,

I believe you gave Deepak’s comments a good defence, but to me his words still have a rather severe contradiction.

When he was asked if he has any hopes for the New Year he replies very clearly,:

“You know I think hope is always a sign of despair, and people often confuse hope with something good. We have to be anchored in sobriety, and if we are anchored in sobriety then we are independent of both hope and despair”

Two minuets later when asked if he has any personal resolutions for the New Year, he says, “Yes, my personal resolution for the New Year is actually to hope to reach critical mass with the message of Jesus”. “Then the Minister says, “ and I suppose you expect your book is going to help you do that” to which Deepak replies, “I hope so”.

So what he must really be saying by his own definition Aurora is that he despairs of reaching critical mass in the coming year with the teachings of Jesus?

Kind Regards,
Stan

Dear Stan,

I'm in no way defending anything, this is just the way I see things. Deepak may mean something totally different, so that's not what I'm talking about, just presenting my view.

And if I look inside myself for an answer to your question, dear Stan... then it is that I don't know if we will reach critical mass in 2008, and so that would be a matter of hope or despair... if it weren't for the anchoring faith/knowing/sobriety which shows me clearly that there is nothing to win nor lose, because form is really just an illusion. Which doesn't make it less of a wonderful illusion that I wish to continue to play in as "me and/or everyone else". So I'll continue to do with dedication whatever I am led to do, without worrying too much about the outcome :)

Greetings Deepak!

Excepting for the little quirk about 'hope'(which implies a duality),
I enjoyed watching this interview. Being familiar with your message
makes it easier for me to understand why you would need a Third Jesus.
Perhaps, you believe the first two were not faithful enough to finish the job.

"It is finished," Jesus says before going His separate Ways.
Then why do we need Hope, dear God?
Jesus didn't mean, "This world is finished", did He?

I am not of this world, but I seek to inherit it.
There will be plenty of Time in Eternity to attain to perfection.
After that comes the Grand Annihilation(or Union), so what's the big hurry?

Won't there always be a flaw to fix? A fatal flaw in Reality,
that God in His Divine Purpose saw fit to impose upon His creatures?
Might It be Love? The Word made flesh. Will the people buy into it?

What a risk! It's almost like gambling with the Devil himself.
"The Third Satan" is a book just waiting to be written.

Wily Serpent in a ring...a free-for-all match...
endlessly chasing a tail that comes from another world.

Stay tuned!

The tricky intention of linguistics...

Utilization of the word:

"Trust" implies success

"Hope" inplies a hint of potential failure

The insightful interview of Deepak is not lost in the linquistics however.

Hey Stan, Keith,

Quote from Deepak's 'The Third Jesus'

>>As one famous Indian spiritual teacher once said, "The measure of enlightenment is how comfortable you feel with your own contradictions."<<
I'd say Deepak is humanly comfortable.

This I like, too.

Written as if you were one returning from the actual Sermon on the Mount and addressing 'turning of the other cheek':-

>>>>>Despite years of hard experience that made a lie of Jesus's promises, you believed them while you were listening. You kept believing them as you walked back down the hill near sunset, and for a few days afterward they haunted you. Until they faded away.

Time hasn't altered this mixture of hope and puzzlement. I had an experience that centers around one of Jesus's most baffling teachings: "Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also." (Luke 6:29) These are words that our Jewish laborer could have heard that day on the hilltop, but time hasn't altered human nature enough to make this teaching any easier. If I let a bully hit me on one cheek only to turn the other, won't he beat the stuffing out of me? The same holds good, on a larger scale, for a threat like terrorism: If we allow evildoers to strike us without reprisal, won't they continue to do so, over and over?

On the surface my experience only vaguely fits this dilemma. Yet it leads to the heart of Christ's mission. I was in a crowded bookstore promoting a new book when a woman came up to me, saying, "Can I talk to you? I need three hours." She was a compact, forceful person (less politely, a pit bull), but as gently as I could I told her, pointing to the other people crowded around the table, that I didn't have three hours to spare.

A cloud passed over her face. "You have to. I came all the way from Mexico City," she said, insisting that she must have three hours alone with me. I asked if she had called my office in advance, and she had. What did they tell her? That I would be busy all day.

"But I came on my own anyway, because I've heard you say that anything is possible," she said. "If that's true, you should be able to see me."

The PR person in charge of the event was pulling at my elbow, so I told the woman that if she came back later, I might find a few minutes of personal time for her. She became enraged in front of everyone. She released a stream of invective, sparing no four-letter words, and stalked away, muttering darkly that I was a fraud. Later that night the incident wouldn't leave me in peace, so I considered an essential spiritual truth: People mirror back to us the reality of who we are. I sat down and wrote out a list of things I'd noticed about this woman. What had I disliked about her? She was angry, demanding, confrontational, and selfish. Then I called my wife and asked her if I was like that. There was a long silence at the other end of the phone. I was more than a little shaken...... <<<<

(More at the above ABC News site)

Hello Deepak and Everyone,

Frankly, I don't know if a third Jesus would help or hinder all the mis-interpretations of Jesus the man, the teacher, the enlightened but very human being that walked the earth at one time very, very long ago, but heck why not give it a try..

faith...1. confidence or trust in a person or thing. 2. belief that is not based on proof 3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion. 4. belief in anything as a code of ethics or standards of merit..

hope...1. the feeling that what is wanted can be had or that events will turn out well. 2. a particular instance of this feeling: the hope of winning. 3. grounds for this feeling in a particular instance: There is little hope of his recovery. 4. a person or thing in which expectations are centered: the medicine was her late hope. 5. something that is hoped for.

faith and hope .. Webster's dictionary

have a great day everyone ruth

Deepak writing about book about a Vedantic Jesus or Jesus as a state of being or consciousness. Yogananda and others have written similar books, however, this is being taught as an alternative or challenge to the fundamentalists teaching of salvation and personal relationship.

Deepak's Jesus seems interchangeable with other enlightened teachers, I'm not sure and haven't read the book, but I wonder how this will tranform progressive Christianity since this eastern teaching angle has been around for at least 60 years in the west?

What is unique here?

Sincerely,

Steve

Listening from Heart focuses on Spirit of the Word and not the Letter. When we listen from Heart there is less separation and more Oneness, less criticism and more understanding of intention. And if intention behind the words is less than pure -- it doesn't matter anyway -- because one is focused in Spirit. Spirit is for-giving.

Speaking from Heart focuses around Spirit not Mind. Acting from Heart focuses around Spirit not Body.

What is Spirit, anyway? I sense it lately as lifting currents.

Trish~~