I find it odd-timeing, that the world suddenly takes notice of China's violations on human rights acts. Their violations have been ongoing for years, and Falun Gong practitioners are dying and being tortured.. their organs being harvested for the wealthy-ill...

It will take the global family; to stop one ruler from demanding to rule apart from the human family based on high moral and ethical practices!

It has long been secretly whispered; that China is the "sleeping giant" of Eastern power, to which will spark world war 3.

Has it begun?

May we unite as one human family on this earth; and take responsibility for the care entrusted to us, to nurture our living planet which houses all of us.

Love,
North

That's interesting.

China unless it *evolves* is headed for chaos I have already mapped out the cause and effect chains and timing. Peril awaits those that resist the Supreme Evolutionary Principle.

They need a miracle, and I would be happy to help them create it if they agree to properly implement communism (every voice counts with true collective control) and give the people currently in Tibet their sovereignty.

They need to operate using gravity, not force.

They also need to stop with all the conformity and to allow individual freedom of expression so that they so they allow ingenuity and invention, otherwise they as a nation will be dependant on the invention of other countries and this does not create a balanced system. China needs to be able to compete from a creative perspective. Their only product can’t be sweat labor and being a copy cat.

The Dalai Lama is coming here, where I am, to see his cousin in April, who is fun to hang out with. Who knows maybe we will hook up, of course I did provide some material already to his cousin.

I don’t know what the divine is orchestrating, actually I do sometimes, but many times I don’t know till the last minute.

The movement to boycott the Olympics is growing.

Better to embrace and transform though.

Go China!

Tell the U.S. to either shut up or "bring it on!"

Cash in that money that has funded "our" 'war on terror'! Make the American dollar completely worthless!

O yeah!

Nancy Pelosi will strike terror in the hearts of the chinese leadership, just you see!!

Go San Fran Nan!!

Steve

It's a disgrace to touch or harm the Dalai Lama. I've said a prayer and asked God to help him, as well as America.

Anyway, China is one of the newest and fastest growing 3rd world countries (so to speak). Just about every medium to large semiconductor company has an office or plant in China. And many of the vendors are following to support these plants. All businesses want to expand to China, as they have made if affordable. However, I've heard that they are catching up with the USA prices really fast, especially the salaries for engineerings, as the cost of living is rising quickly.

China needs to chill out and get with the program, which takes time, especially since they have been so closed off in the past. I believe as a whole, China is moving in this positive direction, but the person in charge will have to try a little harder on letting go and ensuring peace. China could hurt their healthy relationships with other countries if they pursue this avenue.

I work at a small site (not corporate) in the Silicon Valley that has a ratio of about 150 1st generation Chinese (which includes some other Asia countries/nationalities) compared to about 50 or less other (American Whites /Hispanics / Indian ). So I can say that it has been challenging for me within these last 8 years to deal with the cultural differences, especially since I am a rebel from the Deep South and these guys stir my temperature daily, as they remind me of what I thought I escaped from. And it's much hard that I am a female, which has been considered the much lessor of the two of mankind in the China of the past. What I have learned is that we are the same within, but our environment (or community) affects each of us and makes us what we are today. Ultimate power destroys and constricts, as shared and equal power expands.

So like Richard said, China's government will only hurt itself and I think they might have just had a relapse and could get back on track. But really, look at what the USA did in this current war of terror....

Love, Char

BTW: One of my main bosses still thinks it's my duty to make coffee, so he goes into this never-never land every once and a while. So I have to keep reminding him that I don't drink it, so I don't make it. I do it respectfully and matter-of-factly. He just looks at me....

Well folks here's what happens when you give your power away to government and I might add guilable chinese adoring media who think they will score big ratings with this Potemkin
Village of a sham:

BEIJING - China might bar live television broadcasts from Tiananmen Square during the Beijing Olympics, apparently unnerved by the recent outburst of unrest among Tibetans and fearful of protests in the heart of the Chinese capital.

A ban on live broadcasts would disrupt the plans of NBC and other major international networks, who have paid hundreds of millions of dollars to broadcast the Aug. 8-24 games and are counting on eye-pleasing live shots from the iconic square.

PS: I am about 1/8 Chinese as the Cherokee Indians in America migrated about 3000 BC to USA soil - so by blood we do relate, if nothing else but trying to get along. I haven't told anyone at work, as I hold this within me.

PPS: Well on a consciousness level, we are really one anyway! But that's another story, I suppose...

PPS: Opps...when I say stir my temper, I am talking about the Chinese bosses as everyone else is exceptionally sweet - more than any other culture that I have ever come into contact with .... sorry for my loose use of words.

Hi Ambasteve

You said it. :) Just how many bosses *do* we need telling us what to think.

Bonnie

PPPPS: It's like everyone is too sweet and literally take a bow when they come up to the big boss. I am like, no way and I don't care who you are, as I heard the boss is from a royal family. You know, the servants (maids) of the house cannot look their masters in the eye and have to lower their heads! That's what my little sister told me about her male Chinese friend, who was uncomfortable when he went home to visit, as he was use to America. On the flip-side, my boss has a heart of gold and can be really sweet, as I've seen that side too ... in all fairness. Maybe many other bosses are like this too? And I guess I've been lucky. My boss is really easy going, as long as I keep my mouth shut and stay out of his way when I can....joking, kind of :-) But there are those days!

Yep, I think my problem is that I don't like bosses! Who wants to be controlled all day by someone else? I keep thinking that one day, I will be able to create something that someone will want to pay money for and I will be my own boss! As I wonder now, if I would hate myself for imprisonment? Tho, I might have to wait for retirement before I find out :-)

Sorry DK, as I think I've ruined your nice post, but I could not control my passion on the subject .... and then drifted a bit.

Pelosi calls this a "challenge to the conscience of the world". This is a flaw of understanding because their is no conscience of the world. Never was, never will, only conscience of people or persons. Althought I think she has her heart in the right place.

Plus no video or images of what happens gets no world attention. China is very good at that.

Whoever plans to go to the Olympics this summer please bring your camera and video phones and let the world see what's behind the red curtain.

Good luck,

Steve

The most prominent danger of China's force-rule regime through their military; has the USA financially, bound and obligated "to" China for "favours" sure to be demanded.

Already, China is able to reach around the globe and ban youtube film documentaries like "Behind the Red Wall" which documents the true accounts of the severity of punishment inflicted upon Falun Gong practitioners!!

In less than 18 hours, China had the power, to have it remvoved not only from the internet completely free of trace; but, also news media tv were forced to disect the shown documentary on tv to the point, it barely touched the issue of the severities, and inhumanities being inflicted behind veils and curtains of conspiracy to commit live human organ harvesting... survivors were interviewed.

Is this another holocaust?

Being the USA is billions and billions of dollars in debt to China and other Communist Regimented countries; what is this going to imply as to supplying China with military aide in this crisis on an obligation basis?

So, the Question: "will the USA become obligated to support China's military force"?

Love,
North

I recently saw a video where the Dalai Lama refused to encourage violence among his own people, where he praised the merits of the Chinese people and their right to have their nation acknowledged through the Olympic games.

This is the level of consciousness that is the only real solution. The Dalai Lama is not mad, he is not masochistic, he is not being diplomatic, nor restraining himself. He is simply in the place in consciousness where our oneness is reality.

The future of this planet depends on our ability to access that level of consciousness. The more the ego is pressured by hardships like hunger, blatant inequities and violence of all kinds, the more it will cling to its tactics of judgment and domination.

So our biggest challenge is to reach clarity of mind and action and come from a place in ourselves where we do not polarize the world in "aggressor and aggressed", where we do not judge one as above or below the other, but act from a recognition of the world's unity, for the best of all.

So mant fascinating comments, rejecting all thought of rullers blowing off their stuff from above, seems unbelievable, the people are waking from their slumber with their own powerful, indeed, unvanquishable voices. Next we shall see the collective will from everyone everywhere!

Vigdor
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You know I hate to see this stuff.

Of course His Holiness does not advocate violence in the form of attacking Chinese property, even as he is against violence in the form of Chinese troops cracking down.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Browse you tube and watch some of the vids posted up by Chinese people on this for a different perspective.

There are two BIG things that DO NOT HELP either the Tibetans or the Americans:
1. Videos of Tibetans destroying and burning property of Chinese people, and
2. Videos of how FOX news is distorting the story in the USA.

No. 1 sort of sucks all the validity out of everything the Tibetans stand for, which is supposed to be ahimsa, spiritual enlightenment, and the teachings of the Buddha. Neither the Buddha, nor his 14th living incarnation, ever advocating destroying and attacking people or their property.

No. 2 adds fuel to the fire by giving the Chinese proof of a propagandizing media that whips up citizen sentiment, which, of course is exactly what we accuse the Chinese media of doing.

That being said, I stand with the Dalai Lama on this: Tibet should be an "autonomous" province, free to practice their own culture and religion, but also be on good terms with the Chinese government, particularly for the promise that would hold for Tibetans economically. As His holiness has stated, the Chinese Constitution in fact provides for the existence of autonomous provinces, so he is not asking even for anything outside the laws China already has.

That the USA is so tied up with debt and trade to China really hampers the US response. We are truly powerless here except to voice our discontent. Washington has decided the best response is not to have Bush confront China leader-to-leader, but do it through proxies like Rice and Pelosi, whose basic technique is to appeal for Westerners to advocate ending the violence on both sides and restore order.

But the US has no teeth here because we have allowed the Chinese to become so necessary to us financially and economically, and it would also be the height of unrealistic failed policy to do something as stupid as taking military action against China.

Since the Bushies have no negotiation skills, and can't use force this time, they have been effectively neutered, and the Chinese know it. That's the Bushies' own fault.

It affects me economically too. I have music in the latest documentary released about the Dalai Lama. The record company I work with is wanting to release the soundtrack worldwide, which would be good for all of us, but now the big players have all become scared to promote the product for fear of offending China, which is a huge market for the international music distributing corporations.

It's a gnarly issue for sure.

But the first thing is for people to stop the violence and start engaging civilly in a dialogue to reach an agreement that serves the interests of both the Tibetans and the Chinese. On that, I am squarely behind His Holiness.

There's a petition over at Avaaz.org people can sign that has over 350,000 signatures so far that basically appeals to the Chinese to practice restraint in handling the unrest. Their goal is a million signatures.

www.avaaz.org/en/

Pelosi's recent statements against Chinese oppression of their own people is in line with her long term beliefs...

Do you know that as a young politician Pelosi went to the Tienanmen Square and unfurled a banner just two years after the massacre?

I am not sure how many of you know about Pelosi and her political views about China either, and the issue of human rights violation in China which is so close to her heart...and that she has some major disagreements with the Clintons...Politico reports:

...Like any two political veterans, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Rodham Clinton have a history and there is enough there on the issue of China to suggest to some Washington observers that, if Pelosi is indeed a secret Obama admirer, it might have its roots in the 1990s.

One key piece of evidence for that theory can be found in Hillary Clinton's book, Living History. It turns out that back in 1995, as Clinton was preparing for a landmark trip to Beijing to deliver a speech to the United Nations Conference on Women, Pelosi called and implored her to stay home to protest China's human rights abuses.

"The presence of the first lady," Pelosi argued publicly at the time, "would give the Chinese regime an unprecedented propaganda victory."

Clinton made the trip anyway.

When in came to human rights issues in China, Pelosi was no policy dilettante. And it was a matter close to her heart.

She once bragged to the San Francisco Chronicle that she had raised her children "outside of consulates and embassies, where we could protest repression in any country around the world."

On a 1991 trip to China, as a junior member of Congress, Pelosi snuck out of her hotel with two other lawmakers and went to Tiananmen Square to unfurl a banner reading, "To those who died for democracy in China." When hostile police appeared, Pelosi and her colleagues, like the student protesters two years before, dropped all ceremony and ran.

She was profoundly disappointed when President Clinton told her in 1994 that he was ending a policy of tying trade with China to human rights progress. When Bill Clinton spoke in Beijing in 1998, Pelosi said his remarks downplayed human rights violations, putting them "in the past instead of a current nightmare for the Chinese people." She opposed extending most-favored nation status, a liberalized trade policy, to China.

"There were some real differences that the Clintons had with Pelosi on trade issues, particularly on [most-favored nation] status," said former House Majority Whip David Bonior (D-Mich.). "Pelosi really went head-to-head with the administration.Human rights is really a big concern for her."

"Nancy Pelosi has been very strong on that issue," said Bruce E. Cain, a University of California political science professor who is based in Washington. "That would be a big one. That would actually matter to Nancy Pelosi."

And China still matters to Pelosi. As recently as last week, she issued a statement calling China's crackdown on protesters in Tibet as "disgraceful."

On Friday, Pelosi met with the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, at his exile headquarters in Dharamsala, India.

Referring to recent skirmishes between Chinese security forces and Tibetan demonstrators, she called the Chinese crackdown "a challenge to conscience of the world."

"If freedom-loving people throughout the world do not speak out against China's oppression in China and Tibet," she said, "we have lost all moral authority to speak on behalf of human rights anywhere in the world."

The problem with China is the it has become a bit possessive with regard to its territories. Why possess a territory that never gives you peace of mind? Why not just give the land back to their people and feel better and make others feel better about it?

Apparently, the USA sent the missile parts to Taiwan by mistake per Pres. Bush, but he did fest up to it and is attempting to mend the friction.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23813316

.... just found this on the and maybe it's on the news, but I don't get the good news channels such as CNN, nor really watch much TV.

BTW: I did not know about some of the things that you guys shared, so thanks.

Love, Char