DK Matai - March 24, 2008
Dear Friends, after 10 years of stem cell research, scientists are now facing difficulty with cell therapy from the present human embryonic stem cell experimentation. The next phase involves human-animal combinations via Chimeras, Hybrids and Cybrids.

1. A Chimera is produced when a human embryo is fused with an animal embryo;
2. An Hybrid is produced when a human female egg is fertilised with animal sperm or vice-versa; and
3. A "Cybrid" is produced when an animal cell's genetic material is removed and replaced with human genetic material.
Some key questions arise:
1. Should human genetic material be fused with animal cells to create clones of hybrids and cybrids for research?
2. Are human body replacement parts which are part human and part animal appropriate?
Whilst this human-animal combination may open up more potential for future cell therapy and cures for serious illnesses like cancer, there are clear asymmetric threats emerging for humanity. At the same time, it is not clear that if we create human-animal combinations as test beds for research into cancer or other deadly diseases, any success in identifying new treatments will necessarily replicate reliably in the context of the human species. We may indeed have found solutions for the artificially created human-animal synthetic species which may completely fail on the classic "human being." Hence defeating the purpose of the entire exercise.

Background problem
Why is there a rising need for human-animal combinations for biomedical research? Scientists are facing difficulty getting volunteers to donate human donor eggs for cell based research and therapeutic cloning as egg donation is a procedure which poses some risks to a healthy human female's life. The fusion of human genetic material with animal ova is thought to produce cells which behave in a manner identical to human embryos obtained from in vitro fertilisation (IVF). In IVF obtained embryos, the inner cell mass (ICM) of these minute human embryos would normally differentiate to form various organs of the human body. But when the ICM is removed for human therapeutic cloning experiments including embryonic stem cell research, the human embryo must die. This is the major moral and ethical objection of therapeutic cloning in regard to human embryos.
Rabbit-human hybrid embryos
In August 2003, Hui Zhen Sheng of Shanghai Second Medical University, China, announced that rabbit-human 'cybrid' embryos had been created. Researchers fused adult human material with rabbit eggs stripped of their original genetic material and created rabbit-human hybrid embryos which developed to approximately the 100-cell stage, after about four days of development. Moreover, the scientists claimed to derive stem cells from these embryos similar to conventional human embryonic stem cells.
Historic attempts at human-ape
There are well-documented reports that a few scientists in the mid-1920s made serious attempts to create a half-human, half-chimpanzee. One of the Soviet Union's top scientists, Professor Ilya Ivanov, tried to impregnate female chimpanzees with human sperm in Africa in order to create a human-chimpanzee hybrid (a humanzee). These experiments were unsuccessful, but at the time many colleagues believed it was probably feasible in the future. The "Humanzee" is becoming possible in the 21st century.
Chimeras
A chimera of either form of hybrid will have both human and animal tissues. Examples of classic chimeras include the mule, which is a cross between a horse and a donkey. Mythical examples of chimeras include the Merlion (human and a fish) and Centaur (body of a horse and a human head).
The Asymmetric Threats from Human-Animal Synthetic Organisms
1. Medical science has repeatedly shown that animal diseases can be transmitted into humans by any remnant animal protein or genetic fragment, especially from animal protein or genetic material remaining in the egg of the animal. Such diseases can include cancer, leukaemia, or even Alzheimer dementia and mad cow disease by difficult-to-detect prion protein.
2. Serious animal infections, presently confined only to the animal kingdom, can cross the species barrier and infect humans. For example, the HIV virus was transmitted from chimpanzees to humans. It was absent prior to the 1950s but started appearing in Africa either when some tribes ate infected chimps or was passed by errant researchers using chimpanzee serum for human treatment. Chicken eggs may contain the fatal avian virus, and poultry hepatitis B viruses which cause liver cancer.
3. If a human being is created in the Chimera form, and then its life is terminated, this could be legally and ethically unjustifiable.
4. It may be said that any form of mixing violates natural boundaries -- it breaks the species barrier. To pursue this, however, we need to increase our understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the concept of species boundaries. Although it is rare for species to interbreed, the 'barrier' is in reality difficult to define.
5. If each species has a clearly defined genome, then mixing species means mixing up two distinct genomes. With the human genome, things are not that clear. To start with, around half the genes in human cells create proteins that keep cells alive and growing. These genes are found in many different living organisms where they vary only slightly, if at all, from the versions found in humans. This is why people quote figures such as "humans are 50% bananas!" It is therefore difficult to describe these so-called 'housekeeper' genes as belonging to any particular species.
The word 'science' derives from the Latin scientia, knowledge, and science is rightly concerned with 'the systematic study of the nature and behaviour of the material and physical universe, based on observation, experiment and measurement'. However, questions like whether to create human-animal embryonic combinations require more than knowledge, they require wisdom. Wisdom is knowledge tempered by judgment. Science cannot simply pursue the acquisition of knowledge without any consideration of the means involved; it must operate within legal and ethical boundaries. What if the human-animal combinations fail to find cures for any illness but unleash a whole series of new fangled problems and diseases in runaway chain-reaction experiments? The regulatory system may fail at some point and the scheduled termination of human-animal synthetic organisms may not take place. What happens then? What if the new synthetic species grows in confinement to full form and escapes into the wider world?
ATCA is pro-science and we need to look for ways of conducting science within a legally and ethically justifiable framework for the long term. ATCA recognises that direct human and animal experimentation is becoming increasingly difficult for the scientific community in the current climate because of STRICT government restrictions enforced by tight legislation as well as human rights and animal rights groups. Therefore, the scientific community is left with limited options such as pursuing research at a cellular level to create human-animal synthetic organisms in order to understand and to find cures for debilitating diseases. However, if the world's scientific community were to make the brave decision not to pursue this particular direction of human-animal synthetic research, then new avenues would almost certainly open up and lead to alternative modes of finding cures and treatments. Rather than being a panacea the human-animal synthetic organisms could be the opening of the genetic equivalent of pandora's box!
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Posted by DK Matai at March 24, 2008 02:17 PM
Well, at least we found some more common ground for the left and the right. Of course, the right will be against this for what it does to the human, the left for what it does to the animal.
I think these people are dreaming--if 2 different species cannot reproduce in nature, why would it be different in the laboratory?
My only comment: That does not look like a happy dog.
Oh...shucks... one other comment...OF COURSE THIS IS UNETHICAL!!!!!
Hello DK and Everyone,
DK, just looking at this picture I am struck by the sadness it evokes in me. I imagine it might be the sadness a parent might feel when witnessing their much loved child's very disappointing action or behaviour. You feel great love for them but their action or behaviour, so misquided, brings much sadness.
This picture is frightening, grotesque, and sad.
And when it comes to "human" creations it makes one want to close up shop and go out of business...for good.
have a great evening, if anyone can after looking at this picture.......ruth
i got to tell u...this is the most disturbing picture i have ever seen...i hope we never go down that road...damn!
nice puppy . . .
Pigs might fly!
DOG PRAYS
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23774245/?GT1=43001
Aloha Everyone
I am so grateful nature is stellar and when we align with nature we too remember we are stellar. love patty
Yo I am with Char4 on this one...
I can't get past the picture....
Dear DK:
Here is my take on my blog.. please don't mind though.. I just put my thoughts as they came...
http://drishtikone.com/?q=blog/fusion-animals-and-humans-and-our-morality
Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com
Dear DK,
What wisdom is there in assigning the fox to guard the hen house?
Should we seek high profit, proprietary, yet ineffective means of dealing with disease or should we seek low profit, no monopoly, and most effective means of dealing with disease?
Well the people would choose the first option and the unenlightened academic and corporate interests would promote the second.
I think it is all an unnecessary endeavor and reminds me of the story of Frankenstein; we don’t have the maturity and understanding yet to do all of this.
We would think that the media and investigative journalists would play a role in creating this awareness to eliminate disease and the second would be achieved. What we find though is that the media is not an independent one. It is owned by corporations that have a diversified investment in the artificial economy and it’s products and services. The media also receives a portion of the revenue flow via advertising so many are not eager to step on any toes and disturb the preferred story line with the truth. So it tends to favor the easy route? The enlightened media and journalists, who are out there, have yet to garner our full attention, but perhaps that is the fault of us, we choose where to place our attention.
Academics need a problem to solve to justify research and put bread and butter on the table, corporate interests need to have their products and services purchased to fill their pockets. I think there isn’t so much to be created as there is to simply understand.
Some academics and scientists have been corrupted by the “unnatural” profit seeking establishment, I know there are many good ones out there. I am not saying that there is no good research to be done we have more to understand than to create. It might not be so much a deliberate violation as it is a fail to question, being eager to gain a portion of the revenue that flows from an artificial economy and created needs.
I am going to place my attention on the knowing of the inherent goodness in all people and know that some journalists and scientists will bring the light of awareness to us all.
We already have the solutions to disease shouldn’t we apply them? 80% of the population has nutritional deficiency; couldn’t we solve this problem first?
Who are the enlightened scientists and journalists? Which are the enlightened companies?
Can we bring them to center stage?
going against nature is fatal
hi Shehla,
from you blog:
`Ode To Trees’ one of the favorite poem
by Kahlil gibran
“Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky.
We fell them down and turn them into paper,
that we may record our emptiness”.
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from you blog:
`Ode To T
going against nature is fatal
Dear DK,
What wisdom is there in assign
Dear DK:
Here is my take on my blog.. p
Yo I am with Char4 on this one...
I can't
Well, I cannot get past that picture!