Hey Deepak, Here is an interesting video from last year about this time.

Are We God in Disguise?

Click my name.

Deepak,

Many experiences shift and lift us into non-local mind: nature, poetry, music, lovemaking, meditation, drumming, etc.

How do we connect and balance right-brain and left-brain in our life support system/s?

How do we bring earth experience up and heaven experience down so there is fire in the middle?

Trish~~

Aloha Everyone

I remember many years ago, Patricia Sun sharing about the right and left brain. She would always say we are in a quantum leap, like ant to man. I found watching Jill Bolte Taylor very inspiring. I have used the concept we are not in our bodies, like the people we see on the TV screen and it has given such joy to people whose bodies are no longer working. Mahalo for you greatest gift and that is channeling from the right brain Deepak. You are the most generous Spirit. And we understand it is only in saying "No" to the left brain, the right flows right in. You too, are a champion to those who see in pictures. love patty.

Dear Deepak,

I can tell you through my own direct experience with the Almighty (Nirvana, Enlightenment, Self-realization) that it is not a feeling which is found in the body or mind. It is absolutely feelingless to the body and mind, there is an Absolute Awareness of being in the Pure Void, but it is not felt physically. You are completely removed from any type of energy sensations, form or thought, deep within the silent realm of Pure Space. The Still Light of Awareness illuminates the darkness, and in seeing that which you are is what is meant by Nirvana. There is no feeling of love, compassion, bliss or healing when there is no body or brain involved. There is Eternal at-one-ment or Pure being, and when you return it’s an emptied yet complete feeling, a sense of contentment, which is desireless and fearless. I think a lot of people on the spiritual path have these types of experiences, which happened to her and so have I. Besides this there are so many other types of spiritual feelings that can happen to one who is searching. And, they are all valuable as spiritual milestones, but I feel its important to know what the Ultimate Spiritual Experience is, since it trumps any sensations felt here. This is the only experience that remains same for everyone eventually, this does not change. I did not see the video and something could be lost in the translation, so I welcome correction. ~Kurt~

Hi, I think i finally begin to understood the meaning of being "the observer" and "the observed". How awesome is that....like it is said in the holy scripture of the Sikhs, " The wind may raise up huge waves in the ocean, but they are just water in water..." Will we ever begin to understand the "Why" behind existence? ....It's great to hear you Dr. Chopra. Thankyou for enlightening our lives. Jaya

Deepak,

I should probably point out the obvious which is so easy to miss. The architecture, types of cells, types of neurotransmitters and receptor subtypes are all distributed among the two hemispheres in a markedly asymmetric fashion. In other words physically the two hemispheres are the same.

So one might wonder if there is no physical difference what is the source of the functional difference and where is it?

I was very excited by the Jill Bolte Taylor video, and wondered what you thought of it. Thank you for a satisfying discussion of the issues raised by Taylor, and for your vocal presence.

I've sometimes had the feeling that I could levitate if only I'd let myself, and at the same time had the feeling that if I let myself levitate I might never come back to normal life. After listening to you, I think the sense of possible levitation is my mind's way of telling the local me that the non-local me is real. Why do I, why should I, resist entering the non-local state? Why all our responsibilities in our local lives? Why have local lives at all? The question now is not are we one with God / the universe, but rather, why are we these individual manifestations of God / the universe? Is there a purpose to our local manifestations?

In much of what I do professionally and creatively, I tap into my non-local mind. Certain practices, like meditation, prayer and dance, strengthen the effect of the non-local mind in my life, and I do these practices consciously because of the benefits of having a strong non-local mind feeding and correcting my active life.

Half a year ago, I went through some months of emotional stress. During that time, I lost some control of my ability to write or speak precisely. My integrated mind did things that subverted the order my local mind normally imposed on it. Yet I had no underlying physical illness or trauma. I speculate that the depression I was experiencing was so profound that too many of my neurons that would normally have been replaced daily, weren't replaced, and the effect of their not being replaced at the normal rate was most pronounced in those parts of my brain that managed language expression. I didn't lose vocabulary or the ability to spell, but my mind made amazing (and "invalid" and sometimes very funny) connections between words and concepts, I would type backwards even though images of words in my mind were formed in the normal character order, and so on. The result was language that was just a little "off" from what I needed to communicate in a perfectly clear fashion. As the emotional stress receded, language skills came back to normal. As a result of the extra effort I had to make during that time to produce good communication, I now write and speak with more "perfection" than I did prior to the time of stress.

After listening to you, and to Taylor, and thinking about how those months played out in my life, I now see the parts of one's mind that communicate not as a given intellectual capacity that is trained up to a certain point and then stays as-is until age, accident, toxicity or illness cause brain degeneration, but rather as a tool, like a paintbrush, which can be held and used, but which can also be dropped. And one can learn to hold and use it in ways that are not normally imagined, and if one makes great efforts, one can continue to increase the skill with which it's used, far past the "normal" time of learning.

So then, do people who drink or use drugs find a benefit in using those poisons, which are known to destroy neurons at a rate higher than everyday healthy living does, besides their effect in modifying brain and body chemical balances? Is it experiencing damage to the local mind, that enhances, by contrast, the effects of non-local mind? And then, why not use alcohol and drugs, especially if one is a creative professional? I think the answer would be these poisons do more than cause a little more cell death in the part of the brain that we experiences as our local mind, and one is better off using other practices to get a stronger non-local mind effect or experience.

Going back to why not try to always live in a non-local state... hmmmm. What is the purpose of local mind, and why does it try so hard to hold on to its control, and filter out so much of the non-local experience?

This is a fascinating subject. Thank you for your thoughts Deepak and everyone.

I've just started reading a book called Thresholds of the Mind, by Bill Harris. It's about the Holosync method that uses binaural beat signals to train the brain to function from deeper brain wave states. They say this method creates more neural connections and a synchronization of left and right hemispheres, which otherwise are lateralized (unbalanced).

I understand that it's the same effect as through meditation, and I've always felt that "balanced hemispheres" sounds healthy. If we only had the experience of unity (right brain), we would be floating around. If there is a "reason" for the existence of the local mind, I think it is to make it possible for consciousness to experience itself from a particular point of view, and relate to itself as "another". There is enough time (eternity!) to be eternal... why not use the local mind and its perspective of "time - space" to play the game of "we".

Subjectively, when starting off from a dominating experience of separation (left brain), we feel a yearning, a magnetic pull towards divinity, which is surely mirrored by a gradual better functioning of the right brain. But I don't think the meaning of this journey is to shut off the left brain or individual self completely. In my experience, killing the ego is not the point. The point is not mistaking it for the real identity.

Anyway, I also read this other book called "Awakening to Oneness- The Power of blessing in the Evolution of Consciousness", by Arjuna Ardagh. Here they discuss the changes happening in the brain through the oneness blessing or deeksha. The founder of this movement, Bhagavan, says that in the average brain, the parietal lobes are about three times as active as they should be. As these are the centers that help us create a sense of space and a three dimensional world, the effect is that we feel an exaggerated sense of separation. The deeksha, they say, lowers the activity of these lobes and increases the activity of the frontal lobes, especially the left one. Front lobes are centers for logic, concentration, reason, and other functions that are unknown today (we only use 5% of the capacity of the frontal lobes). And to me it is interesting to observe that the practice of meditation does produce a more sharpened awareness or awakened interpretation of what is observed.

So in both these views, it seems that the "radio" is defective, giving us a very distorted version of Beethoven's music. If we fix the radio, we will have the best and most fulfilling experience of the 9th symphony one can have through a radio. And when the brain disintegrates, we will return to being the source of the symphony, the music, orchestra and listener in one, with no differentiation at all. That is the end of the game... because it must have been a game, after all. Or else, there is some other reason :)

One question I used to have was if it is the mind that changes the brain or if it's really possible that by changing the brain even the function of the mind improves... but it's becoming obvious that there's no difference, the mind, the brain are expressions of the same process, mirroring the evolving capacity of consciousness to know itself.

I would like to request a few miracles for all the world to see, something to bring unity.

Perhaps we could turn the night into day for ten seconds, with a burst of high energy from somewhere far away.

Richard, I don't think turning the night to day would do it. A miracle you experience outside of you probably remains just a cool trick...

The miracle we need is to help more brains/minds/people to perceive their true identity. And I see that consciousness is speeding up the process enormously, it seems that everyone, everywhere, both mystics and scientists, the media and people on the streets are talking "higher consciousness" :) So let's keep up the vibes and do whatever we're inspired to do to help this awakening ... it's working.

I think it is safe to say there is only one thing that is a challenge to God the omnipotent in this universe, and that is being human, compared to this creating a galaxy is mere child’s play.

:)
Have you ever watched an ant carrying a huge burden uphill, climbing over hindrances and picking up its burden again and again... it's the same striving at all levels. But I agree... only people have perfected the art of skepticism :D

A lovely comment, Aurora. (#7)

#6 "Going back to why not try to always live in a non-local state... hmmmm. What is the purpose of local mind, and why does it try so hard to hold on to its control, and filter out so much of the non-local experience?"

It's called dumbing down, Heath :) Life's too short, they say.

The Non-Local Miracle Encounter with...
Mieke and Donna's book of Poems
Today on my 44th birthday (March 25)
I returned home from a visit to
The Monroe Institute with Dr. Gary Schwartz.
By the way, they use and do research into
Hemi-Sync technology using binaural beats.
Upon returning home a copy of Mieke and Donna's
book was waiting for me on my birthday.
Upon opening the book the first page seen (opened)
was a poem called...
A Birthday Wish for the Forever Young!
A beautiful example of non-local synchronicity.
Todd

Thanks Heath, I really enjoyed yours too. I had to smile at the backwards typing... reminded me of the time I had a very high fever and started to write those silly rhymes... consciousness was desperately trying to bring forth those grand love poems... but the overheated radio was... dumbing them down :D:P Hi Ed!

#2"How do we bring earth experience up and heaven experience down so there is fire in the middle?

Trish~~"

Like what you suggest here, Trish.
Perhaps we always overshoot the mark?
Always look for the finer distinction until, like homeopathy, no distinction remains?

I was just thinking about how one makes concrete. You start with water, add partcles and stir. Voila. You might get the 10 commandment tablets and you might get all the beautiful books I've read. And all the beautiful creatures in all the beautiful worlds.
We can do the same. It's either Danielle Steel or the Rubiyat of Omar Kyam.
What does this have to do with the non local brain? I guess that's where the water came from.

Todd, happy birthday to the idea of a separate you! You seem to treasure it :)
Donna and Mieke, congrats on your book!

Aurora,
Where's the love?
Todd

Hi Aurora,

Thanks for being a light as you are always. What you say is true. I was hoping for something to create a topic for conversation something to draw our collective attention away from the finite world of limitation to the infinite one of unlimited possibility, to move our attention from a focus on conflict to a focus on potential and then actualize it, a love dominated world.

If anyone is interested you can click my name and there is a lot of information about binaural beat technology. One interesting thing about it is that it increases communication between the hemispheres through the corpus collosum. The other interesting point is that in women the corpus collosum is much thicker which may explain the intuition, and nurturing love aspect born from an undivided perspective.

The left side seems to represent separation and the right side all the parts as a whole.

I wonder if we haven't been conditioned to reject the workings of the right hemisphere in favor of the left. Perhaps we should promote right brain dominance which is more conducive to unity. The best is a perfectly balanced brain with fully integrated hemispheres, yet our current systems tend to favor development of the left side creating an imbalance.

Left brain function can all be embedded into computers freeing us to live as right brained individuals, creating, not dividing.

I plan to put something up for free about seven minutes worth of streamed binaural beat audio, enough to move one into Theta. Perhaps I will get it done and post a link in a few days. It will be special in that it will also include sound and frequencies produced by the Buddha singing bowl.

Click below to know more.

......and that is being human' Yo Richard I think this is the coolest thing I've heard all week.

There are some exercises I learned in the book years ago, "Drawing From the Right Side of the Brain", that achieve the same kind of results as meditation. They teach you how to turn off your left brain. The more you practice the more you retain it.

Shaman often use drugs to enter into that altered state. The stories they tell are the same as those who astral project.
I do not believe that there are any rules that limit us to how we arrive at that blissful place. It is just a place where we turn off the left brain and experience the universe in that state, the creative state. But we need the balance of the left brain so we can share our experiences. That balance was so wonderfully expressed by Jill Bolte Taylor. Yo Jill, thank you.

I believe the world is our playground, time is a toy, acceptance of all brings peace to the soul, the right brain taught me that.

peace comes from peace

derek

Todd- everywhere. If we can only perceive it :)

Richard, thanks- you are a treasure of knowledge. I'll go through your links thoroughly, and I would love to listen to that audio. A friend has just lent me a CD with holosync because I'm so curious to see how it works, and I do have a Cd with delta and theta inducing sounds, but I've never used them. Maybe it's time to try even this. Folks, if you don't hear from me again, my neurons must have exploded :D

Hi dear Todd,

Happy birthday and a big embrace to you!
Forever young! Ain't it a wonderful feeling :)

"And she was able to tell her left brain to "shut up" - Deepak Chopra in the video.

"Well, that seems to be something we women always had as an advantage before that so-called emancipation gulf". :)

And it is coming back again, the wave of Love.

Thanks Aurora for your wonderful words, here and in Gotham's thread, where I have placed a comment, partly to yours there :)

Love, Mieke

I love your video presentations Dr. Chopra!

Mr Richard Thomas here ya go (even though I know you will learn nothing new here).

In search of the God particle. (click on me name)

peace

#17 tee hee, li'l Dakini,
microtubules to you!

A crucial player in the animating principle of life in our universe is the Phonon. It may lead to understanding why sound has the effect that it does.

In binaural beat technology we have Resonant entrainment of oscillating systems at work.

Resonant entrainment of oscillating systems is a well-understood principle within the physical sciences. If a tuning fork designed to produce a frequency of 440 Hz is struck (causing it to oscillate) and then brought into the vicinity of another 440 Hz tuning fork, the second tuning fork will begin to oscillate. The first tuning fork is said to have entrained the second or caused it to resonate. The physics of entrainment apply to biosystems as well. Of interest here are the electromagnetic brain waves. The electrochemical activity of the brain results in the production of electromagnetic wave forms which can be objectively measured with sensitive equipment. Brain waves change frequencies based on neural activity within the brain. Because neural activity is electrochemical, brain function can be modified through the introduction of specific chemicals (drugs), by altering the brain’s electromagnetic environment through induction, or through resonant entrainment techniques.

Phonon: The quantum of acoustic or vibrational energy often characterized as being heat energy. Phonons, like all quanta in quantum mechanics, have wavelike and particle like properties. Phonons propagate through the vibrating material at the speed of sound in that material. Phonons are especially useful in mathematical models for calculating thermal and vibrational properties of solids. Every harmonic vibration can be decomposed in the elementary vibrations called phonons. The total number of phonons in a system that vibrates (e.g. crystal) is related to the temperature of the system. At higher temperatures, vibration of an object is stronger and the number of phonons larger. As every phonon carries a quantum of vibrational energy, this means that the internal energy of the object is also larger.

Radiant heat is light, consisting of photons, the vehicles for information transfer, new information; the change of state is called energy, each new state defined by intention at the macro level, and math at the micro level?

The Phonon is a label for that which takes in energy, the light from the sun, far-infrared to be exact and animates form, both noun and verb, it is that which does and that which is.

There are two types of Phonons Optical and Acoustic, which is why we listen to music. Light engages the optical phonons. The Word engages the Acoustic phonons. They both obey Bose-Einstein statistics. Bose Einstein condensation is where when atoms lose all heat they become one. Heat is what creates separation, needed for the One to become many creating differential allowing events. Time produced by a return to equilibrium. Electrons can exchange energy with photons (quanta of light) and with phonons (quanta of vibrational energy of lattice). There are also magnetic-phonon couplings. For example, interactions between phonons and electrons are thought to be responsible for such phenomena as superconductivity. An interesting aspect of the phenomenon is the continued flow of current in a superconducting circuit after the source of current has been shut off.

Based on this we realize that the number of Phonons in the earth system is increasing as it relates to global warming leading to the formation of very powerful vortices, increased turbulence and rate of change in a process of rejuvenation.

Being, both noun and verb, that which does and that which is, one the same.

Some how it’s all connected, but the puzzle is yet to be completed providing the full picture.

Interestingly, Aurora sees Todd as separate....seems she is missing love in her life ....and interstingly again, Todd quite rightly begins talking of love...Synchrnicities galore...

What I want to know is, are we configured the adult left/right brain from birth/conception or does that differentiate because of input?

My brain is a cauliflower. I come from a long line of market gardeners!

Not quite, Harb. Be with you in two secs!

Had an Almighty moment with Heath, though.

Mieke, I almost responded on the other thread with pulling Gotham's leg, or maybe yours, or maybe mine, in the most undiscriminate way :D

Harb, I haven't even started to listen to those binaural sounds and hey... something's happening with my brain, I can't really follow your logic. But I'm sure that as soon as I become One I will :D:)

Edmund: I don't know how much of our brain comes configured at birth, but I'm quite clear that we do a lot of configuring afterwards :-).

There's an interesting approach called the Option Process that works on identifying those left-brained beliefs we have developed from childhood, and changing those to create an easy, effortless experience of happiness. I use it myself all the time. So in a way, to the extent that we have thought ourselves into unhappiness and separation, we can 'think' ourselves out of it.

Derek, hi, good to see you again. I just saw your post. Could you describe one of those exercises? Deepak says she told her left brain to shut up... I'm not sure how to do that. When I meditate, I don't mind the thoughts, but I've never told them to shut up. How does it work?

She lost some of her neuron connections, so she is able to have some mental control for awhile, but once those neurons start firing up she will return to old thought patterns. Telling your mind to shut up doesn't work, you have to gently look away by redirecting your attention in meditation. ~Kurt~

Aurora, nothing serious, just wanted to say hi to you lol.

Hi Aurora
Good to see you as well.
Tape a piece of paper down on a table where you can not see it. The exercise is to draw every tiny detail of your hand on the piece of paper without looking at the paper, you only look at the hand you are not drawing with. How the drawing looks is not important. It takes practice to overcome the urge to look at the paper but it works. Eventually you just get lost in the experience and time just slips away.

In my meditation I just repeat 'no thoughts' until the thoughts become so faint that they lose their relevance. They just pass by in the distance.

yo

derek

Aurora, I too wondered how she got it to shut up. I thought maybe, now that she knows what quietness feels like, she can guide it to a quiet state.

If anyone has not yet found the Taylor video that Deepak talks about, Patty posted a link to it on the Byron katie thread, here -- click on Patty's name:

http://www.intentblog.com/archives/2008/03/i_need_your_lov.html#comment-172300

Edmund, your puzzlers are beyond my mind's ability to decode, sometimes. But your smiles, compassion and Steve Toth posts keep me trying. :D

In my comment above (6), I said there was no underlying physical cause for what I experienced, and then I go on to describe a possible underlying cause -- slow replacement of neurons. Duhhh! :)

A couple of times a day, I play that Windows card game, Freecell. I like it because it's possible to win any game. It requires a disordered approach, to solve the harder games. If you go for too much order, you box yourself in, and the lost possibilities of movement cause you to lose. You need to use peripheral vision and intuition (non-local mind skills, I think) to get a high average rate of wins. I just realized that since my verbals skills returned, I've been winning at a 40% rate, rather than my old 73% rate. Not only have I been losing, I've not been caring that I'm losing. :) I think the losing is because I focused on exercising my local mind skills (orderliness, in particular), in order to regain precision in communication, and the action of the local mind strengthening seems, by contrast, to have overlaid my connection with non-local mind. I just played now, making a conscious effort not to be orderly, and I won.

I've not been meditating or praying recently, and I've also not been caring that I'm not doing these things. Only Holy Week saved me from total sloth on the prayer front. I haven't given up on dance, but I'm not dancing as much. The not-doing and not-caring-that-I'm-not-doing must also be an effect of my work to regain my communications skills. Time to start paying attention to non-local mind.

Thanks Derek and Kurt, interesting this "shut up" thing, I'll have to play with it a little. Derek, I've tried the exercise, it's a great way of sinking into the flow, thank you. Yes, I see how it might be a way to silence.

Harb, why don't you just say so :) Hi!
You are right, I wasn't kind to Todd- sorry Todd ... I've been teasing my left brain for years about this insistence that I was born at such and such time ... it won't shut up :)

Aurora
I have spent so much time in that right brain state that I became unbalanced. I have experienced so much there but I have had a challenging time expressing it to others.
It is often easier for me to slip into no thought when I need to be in thought.
Balance
right and left.

peace and love to you

derek

I would enjoy receiving a transcript of this!

Hugs!
Lily S.

Derek and Heath, you are describing experiences I know so well... don't we all?

Heather, I find you exceptionally orderly in your communication, hey, I haven't thought of training that, but like Derek, maybe I can change that, apply some control:) Unless I don't-care-that-I'm- not-communicating-properly, and leave it at that... how wonderful to have two hemispheres! Thanks for the link to the video.

I've not been able to view the videos for some reason so I may be off a little.

Kan, I liked your description of awareness as being one of no feelings of love, compassion, bliss or healing. It's something that must be experienced and not possible for the mind to know. It just is. God is all and nothing. All of us have glimpses of this I think.

Aurora, I also like your description of mind and brain mirroring the evolving consciousness to know itself. Like two mirrors facing...a mirror looking back at a mirror, reflecting a mirror.....endless.

Bonnie, have you tried to watch them on deepakchopra.com? They work for me there when they don't here. Yes, mirrors reflecting mirrors... nice thought.

Click my name for:

An Exercise For Observing and Reducing Visual Hemispheric Dominance

"Watch the cross on the third circle. Every few seconds, it will change from a horizontal line to a vertical line and back. This is because the hemispheres of your brain are alternating in dominance for this activity. When the right hemisphere is dominant you see the blue circle and vertical line on top; when the left hemisphere is dominant, the red circle and horizontal line are on top."

Now you're ready for the actual yoga. Look at the illustration again, but this time, try to make the cross on the middle circle steady. You want a pure cross, not a horizontal or vertical line. Practice every day until you can do it for 45 minutes straight. I think you'll find the resulting state of mind quite interesting.

Aurora
I'll try that. Thanks.

My new teacher tells me not to stop the thinking process, but to suspend interpretation of those thoughts in the nanosecond before those thoughts arrive. I've not yet figured out how to do that, but am trying. :))

bonnie

Dear Deepak,

I would very much like to know your thoughts on "Dementia", Alzheimer and other kinds of Dementia.

Someone told me once, that we can "choose" this ourselves.

Is this true?

Mieke

Hi Bonnie,

I guess their talking about thought analysis, but how can you suspend interpretation if the thought hasn’t surfaced yet?

Hi All,
great comments to read.

Happy Birthday Todd!
I too thank Mieke and North for the gift of words and pictures. I carry the book with me as I go about my day, and have shared it with several friends.
I hope you are enjoying a nice day of your birth :)
love from ~ Kate

dear Bonnie,
it is hard to 'stop' thoughts. I haven't completely, but I have many moments, when I can slow them way down. And it becomes a very gentle feeling in my mind and being,
and then there are those wonderful moments in nature.
thoughts and time seem to stop, it's so nice.

Thank you Edmund and Patty

Mieke,

I would be very interested to know Deepak's thoughts on Alzheimer's also. Or his thoughts about neurological problems in general.

Hi Olivia,

Thank you.

I have a mother with Alzheimer's disease.
During the process towards it, I noticed some very peculiar moments, and had some conversations with her that made me really wonder.

Now she is already in that stage that she doesn't recognize anyone anymore. But when I watch her, I still wonder: "dear Mam, what is going on in your head?"

Yet I got the reassuring message within that she is already at a certain non-local level and I have been able to integrate that in such a way that she is already part of myself. If you know what I mean :)

She isn't "death", yet in a way she is.

Mieke

# 33 "So in a way, to the extent that we have thought ourselves into unhappiness and separation, we can 'think' ourselves out of it."

Thanks for your reply, sWORDSman. We are not much wiser! I do feel it's very important to know what 'set up' we enter this world with. The present apparent set up of most peoples adult brains, (ok so mine's different :-)) obviously, is for a good reason but I'm not happy to give it permanent status especially now we are pushing the front ears...oops sorry..the frontiers!
~~~~~~~
Interesting for me, that which you write, above quote. I used some very similar words some years back when my GP doctor tried to refer me to a psychiatrist for panicking about dying before my time ;)

I did indeed think my way out again and had, what some call, a kundalini experience into the bargain. It was pretty scary at the time, though, as I had no idea what was happening, only finding out about such things after the happy resolution. Suddenly so many of the pieces of my puzzle fell neatly into place.

good afternoon everyone,

I watched the video of Jill Taylor's stroke experience which she describes so beautifully.

I think the conscious marriage between the right and left hemispheres of our brain is really the ultimate destination in our brain/mind development.

I think reaching Nirvana is supposed to be a natural step for all of us in our development and that it is really not supposed to be a big deal, it is just a deal that has been left undiscovered, unrecognized, except for the eastern religions where it is placed "on high" so to speak. Not that the journey through your brain hemispheres is without challenge or conscious observation and a certain amount of discipline to persevere.

There are many people who journey back and forth throughout their day spending time in Nirvana or spending time, in time. Their left and right hemispheres are working together, consciously, the case where the left hand doesn't know what the right is up to is over....they have been properly introduced to each other.:)))))) and now they live together, happy everafter:))))))

I think when you have followed your left brain long enough, did all that it has directed you to do and still you end up...with no where else to go and you realize it, then, that is when....the right brain enters the picture and says...."hey, over here...get a load of this," silence, no directions, no place to go, nothing to do, ahhhh, peace..breathing room...wow..there is so much empty space here and I can stretch out, god ,I'm filling up the whole Universe...imagine...who woulda thought....and all this time I have lived right next door never imagining the vastness of my being!!

I don't know if this is making any sense....just writing what is coming...

have a great evening, ruth

I enjoyed your video Deepak. Thanks.

I don't know about all that right and left brain stuff that everyone is talking about, as it sounds complicated to me. However, I do believe when we quiet the local self, then we can listen and hear the non-local Self.

So I don't think the One Mind can ever be quiet until every single person (& this probably includes: animal, plant, stars, wind, rain, fire, - all of creation) is/are quiet at the same time, as everyone empties their thoughts all at once. I wonder what that would be like and if we would all still exist?

This woman appears to have shut down her thoughts (local) such as is done in meditation (or prayer), only to find All thoughts or the One Mind of all things (non-local)

So if this is what the Bible means when it says, 'Be still and know that I am God,' then I suppose the non-local consciousness or One Mind could be God.

However, I cannot help but wonder what is before Unity Consciousness or the One Mind? There must be something? Would that be what God really is before creation of the All and before all the labels and separation? Such as, is Unity Consciousness what God is at the highest level or does God in fact proceed this state of Unity? And if so, what would that be like? I've heard that Love was made for us, so I tend to think God is before all these feelings that we have as humans. More like what one of the posters mentioned above ... to where God is without all the human emotions/mental thoughts/physical body/spirit body/ & maybe soul (?) as I still cannot seem to define the soul. Maybe soul is God? Or maybe God is beyond the soul as well?

Well, these are my current thoughts at the moment. And BTW: I really enjoyed all the comments above. What a fun subject :-)

Love, Char

Hi Kan

This is the way he explained it to me. The split second *after* a thought is received, the ego claims it and interprets it through our perceptions, past experiences and anticipation for future events. Unattachment to outcomes of events or thoughts, as opposed to simple detachment, occurs in that untainted nanosecond prior to the thought or event...it's the place where the "true or pure essense" of reality is recognized without thought or feeling.

It's a constant contemplation, similar to being in the Now moment but with a subtle difference.

Hope that's not confusing.

bonnie

PS: Plus I've heard also, "God before Spirit." So even though God is Spirit, as per the Bible and as I've heard too, God is still beyond Spirit. There is something before that, which appears to be unknown.

Love, Char

PPS: And I've heard that I do not understand Love, so since I can get the human love part, maybe God Love is Unity Consciousness? But then, I still ponder upon what is before Unity Consciousness? Maybe it would just be called Unity and void of consciousness or nothingness, but it still must exist too? However, I cannot fathom how something can be made out of nothingness or be un-manifested and exist at the same time, as it must exist if it can create from nothingness. What would that thing be, that must be God, the unspeakable and/ unknowable? I wonder if God will ever tell us? The Upanishads describe it somewhat, but it's been a while since I've read the book (that's on chopra.com shopping), and the Bible leads one to it in Genesis. But it does not seem like it can be explained? Maybe the enlightened know who have reached God-consciousness, as Jesus seemed to know and I suppose other masters knew as they tried to explain it. I suppose that's why God cannot really be named or labeled. Sorry...just thinking out loud and hoping that something will come to me :-) ... but it's not! Oh, well........

Love, Char

Hi Kate

I know what you mean
The contentment of
just being.

bonnie

I saw the video and I can guarantee you that what she is talking about is not Nirvana, she never left her body. The Soul is a very minute in size and I had a similar experience she had, but it was during my drug years, and I’m sure some of you recall that feeling on (to many) drugs. All kinds of wonderful sensations are connected to energy, but to go beyond the brain and body is altogether completely different from everything she said. We all have had experiences like that, yet we know its part and parcel to the human drama and Nirvana is way more than that. ~Kurt~

PPS: I promise (hope) this is the last post, so I don't turn into a troll!

I just have to comment on the visual of Deepak's video, as it's dark and there is this one little window in the video behind Deepak that has nothing but light coming from it. So I could not help but stare and ponder upon this little window of light.

I've heard many times, "Look out the window." And one morning I heard it again, as I got up from doing my make-up and grudgingly looked out my window telling myself, "Okay, God, what is it that I am not seeing? There is nothing out there but all this stuff and a lot of light. So I thought that must be it, i.e. LIGHT." For me personally, it means to look out of my little local self and see the whole of the Self, such as the All, i.e., to see God in all things.

Yep, I've given myself away, as it is obvious that I am not enlightened :-) ... but it's never been a secret to you all!

Love, Char

PPS: I promise (hope) this is the last post, so I don't turn into a troll!

I just have to comment on the visual of Deepak's video, as it's dark and there is this one little window in the video behind Deepak that has nothing but light coming from it. So I could not help but stare and ponder upon this little window of light.

I've heard many times, "Look out the window." And one morning I heard it again, as I got up from doing my make-up and grudgingly looked out my window telling myself, "Okay, God, what is it that I am not seeing? There is nothing out there but all this stuff and a lot of light. So I thought that must be it, i.e. LIGHT." For me personally, it means to look out of my little local self and see the whole of the Self, such as the All, i.e., to see God in all things.

Yep, I've given myself away, as it is obvious that I am not enlightened :-) ... but it's never been a secret to you all!

Love, Char

Sorry, as the first posting did seem to go thru and I was off doing something else and forgot that I had submitted once already. I guess the system hung up. I'm a troll now!

I haven't see the womans video...thanks Kurt for sharing your wonderful experiences.

Love, Char

Char, “You are Gods” You are a small piece of God, but for now you are experiencing energy (consciousness), and how can you be aware of your existence in nothingness, unless you come face to face with your opposite, which is Char. God speaks to No One, you have to go within to that which is God, your Soul, and then you discover the answers to your deepest questions. Do you have to verbally tell your right hand what to do? And neither does God, the search is for your own personal discovery and rightly so. All religions have myths from ancient times of ignorance, but if you stick to logical facts you can find your way through. ~Kurt~

Jesus addresses Enlightenment

“Truly I say onto you, there are some of those who are standing here who shall not taste of death until they see the Kingdom of God and it has come with power”

This is enlightenment in a nut shell, because when you see the Kingdom of God before your physical death you are enlightened. When you see the Still, Aware, Light of God, which is the force that created the universe, you understand its Almighty power. And, that power which rewarded you with the ultimate vision changes your life.

“Blessed are those who are pure in heart for they shall see God”

The heart signifies your internal nature, your motive, your mind, your life and to be pure is to be egoless. Not to hurt anyone by “thought, word or deed” and your earnestness and good intentions towards God shall be rewarded. You will see God and the Kingdom of Heaven, which again is Self-Realization (enlightenment).

“You are Gods” and “Behold the Kingdom of God is in your midst”

Your Soul is a small piece of God, and in order to see God you have to go within (meditate) to your source, and use that as your eyepiece, because nothing else will work. It is within You! But you'll have to search for it.

“The Kingdom of Heaven is within thee”

Aloha Everyone

What I find comforting about Jill Bolte Taylor experience is she gives a view split mind. What a miracle for those who experience the condition of schizophrenia. I remembered JZ Knight (channels Ramtha) who was on Larry King, with some other people in a panel in response to the dvd Secret. She had shared that we are here to make the known unknown. That we feared change because of reprisal.

In working with someone with the condition of Alzheimer's or dementia, I am able to grasp their physical form is in the process of collapsing form which happens to all matter and the world of the non-local mind fills the void to be non-duality. Which must be true with someone with schizophrenia.

Larry King asked JZ Knight:
J.Z., can you remove an illness just by thinking about it? 

KNIGHT: Yes. I was a heavy smoker, and I was developing emphysema. Most women like to smoke, most people that I knew did. And I went and got a CAT scan, and when I saw the CAT scan of what my lungs were doing, I knew I wasn't going to be alive very much longer. 

And so I simply said, I'm going to go live somewhere in my brain where I have always been well. And in that moment, I simply moved what I am to a different neuronet in my brain.

To view the who transcript just click my name.

Dear Patty,

Thank you for this link, was a good read.

I googled Deepak on Dementia and came out at his book "How to know God".

I have it in the Dutch language; time for me to reread it :)

Isn't it always remembering what one already knows?

Love, Mieke

Hey Ruth

"I think reaching Nirvana is supposed to be a natural step for all of us in our development and that it is really not supposed to be a big deal..."
That's how I feel.

All these levels of consciousness are just rights of passage. I don't hold the same reverence that a spiritual seeker holds for Nirvana or enlightenment. They are just part of the ride to me. Someday this ride just may take me away in a bubble to explore our universe. Like in the movie "The Fountain", but without a purpose other than to look out at the stars and nebulas. Without the need to share it with anyone.

I am a space being after all. Maybe I'll bump into Carl out there, give him a wave a and a smile and be on my way.

Yo, just feeling playful today.

derek

Lol Derek, well, we certainly bumped into each other today :) 8:58 AM !

Happy playing in Nirvana :)

Love, Mieke

Hey Mieke
When our bubble bump it creates a spark joy, maybe even a small big bang.

May Nirvana be happy playing in you.

peace comes from play

derek

Aloha Mieke

Dr. Joe Dispenza shares on BeyondTheOrdinary.net about the hippocampus and how it shuts down from the use of drugs. He shares how they are now looking into it with Alzheimer's. I imagine with Alzheimer's stress/worry changes the body. He shares about HeartMath. I had printed the steps for a friend.

1. Recognize the stressful feeling and FREEZE-FRAME it! Take a time-out.
2. Make a sincere effort to shift your focus away from the racing mind or disturbed emotions to the area around you’re heart. Pretend you’re breathing through your heart to help focus your energy in this area. Keep your focus there for ten seconds or more.
3. Recall a positive fun feeling or time you’ve had in life and try to re-experience it.
4. Now, using your intuition, common sense, and sincerity, ask your heart, What would be a more efficient response to the situation, one that would minimize future stress?
5. Listen to what your heart says in answer to your question. It’s an effective way to put your reactive mind and emotions in check and an in-house source of commonsense solution.

My experience with dementia, is the short term memory is unable to remember, say if you have had a shower an hour ago. And it comes in later in life. And I think they say the numbers are dropping because people are using their thinking process more. They say Alzheimer's takes a couple of decades to set in. I have witnessed conditions like Parkinson's can affect the thought process. Someone can have mini strokes and no one is aware of it. Say if the right side is affected the person becomes less emotional and just the opposite if the left side. The person who seems to act without feeling could have had mini strokes on the right side of the brain. So with this understanding you become more objective and compassionate to behavior that can be hurtful.

If you haven't checked out Nassim Haramien on youtube, be sure to because he gives a total look at our experience as Bruce Lipton. In essence what they share is we are fractals. The external world only allows a unevolved view, that is to be transformed from within. Every fractal is the center point. So in reality there are no real surprises. It as Deepak Chopra shares we have never been born or never die. Life is poetry:)

You can listen free to Dr. Joe Dispenza online by clicking the speaker on the left. The audio that shares about the hippocampus is December 9th, 2004:
Science - using it to prove what we already know; People are beginning to trust their own intuition; Experimenting with abstracts and "what if"; The Heartmath technique and its "Freeze Frame" method; Cocaine use literally makes Swiss cheese of the brain! And, the brain, both a superconductor and transducer that taps into all the frequencies or streams of consciousness; The amygdala, the organ that allows us to "Makes Known the Unknown".

love patty knowing we all have a thinking disease:)

oops click my name for Dr. Joe Dispenza, on BeyondtheOrdinary.net... I think the reason they were so interested in the Brain was because of JZ Knight channeling Ramtha. But music, poetry and art comes from the Right Brain. With strokes they do wonderful stuff in tricking the brain through mirrors. They will use a mirror box where you place the unaffected arm in and the brain believes both arms are unaffected.

Lynne McTaggart shares how Monks are able to change their body temperature to warm in a freezing environment by speeding up their thought process. Our brain doesn't know the difference between a action and a thought. She shares about two people, one goes to the gym and the other thinks about it and there is not much difference in the results in building up their biceps. love patty

Thanks Kurt. I was mostly interested in what you had to say about the soul, as I have found that part confusing.

BTW: I hear thoughts, not voices - my own thoughts and others, both alive and dead, past/present/future, here on earth and in heaven, All thoughts, including God/Spirit/Angels/Animals/etc-whatever.

It's more along the lines of what I tune into and I personally don't have too much control over what I hear, but I have some control now (i.e., haven't mastered it completely). This is why I prefer not to meditate anymore. I will let parts of what I think is from the One Mind in (the Holy parts and not the other parts), as I pray or read the Bible or when I am eating and having wine and just relaxing.

Love, Char

PS: Also, when I first started hearing, a few others got to experience it with me.

Once I was listening to the Holy Angels playing music and singing. As my nail lady held my hand, she became really nervous and started looking around. So I knew, something was wrong and that she was probably hearing too, therefore, I kept my comment vague and asked, "Does the mall have music?" She said no. Then I asked, "Are you sure they have not turned it on?" She said yes and the commented that there was no music system in the mall. I asked her if she heard the music and she said yes. Then I said, someone must be playing in the mall. I was not lying, as someone was playing, but I felt is was best not to tell her. Anyway, when we heard together, it was louder and most beautiful .... just like what one would imagine heavenly music and singing to sound like. They sing about God and Jesus all the time, including the Virgin Mother.

And on the flip side, when I was shopping for my first Bible, this lady in the Bible shop started screaming and then a joker type toy went off. The woman was hearing the unholy that I was hearing as well. Of course, I said nothing, but prayed and prayed. The woman said she could hear something and it must have been the horror movie that she just watched and she promised herself and everyone there that she would never watch another horror movie. I don't hear these lost spirits anymore. But I can tell you, it was horrible at first. But then one of them (verbally meanest one) made me laugh at something she said in as threat and from that point on, I had no fear. I continued reading the Bible to her and she asked questions about God and then peacefully left.

So when I say I've been to heaven and hell in my life time ... I mean it.

Love, Char

PPS: I don't hear like that anymore which was 24/7 and I could not turn if off. That's why I am afraid to meditation like as in a regular/set practice such as 2-times a day for 30 minutes, because I cannot shut if off and then everything wants to talks. I even tried a few times to start meditating again and the same thing happens. Now, I hear when I think a thought and only as I ponder upon God - then God/Soul/Spirit answers, as well giving me lots of love. God is the sweetest ... whatever God is. And yes, I can only take in what I am capable of baring. And yes, I am told that I am god by God and I know that I am only a little human creation by the GOD Almighty that is the All and Beyond.

Love, Char

Last one here: Yes, I know it's all in the mind, as in consciousness :-)

Thank you dear Patty!

All this useful information will keep me busy for quite a while now :)

Love, Mieke

Yes, that was very interesting Patty - just catching up on the rest of the posts.

Love, Char

And so synchronistically Patty, tonight on our Dutch television an indepth interview with Dr. Pim van Lommel about his book "Endless Consciousness", that has become a bestseller in our country anew and again!: His investigation of about 20 years of NDE.

He has made Near Death Experience discussable in the Lancet.

I purchased his book 2 weeks ago.

Beautiful vision, shared with lots and lots of people, not only in our country but around the world :)

Love, Mieke

Char, how can you be sure that voices are someone else's thoughts and not yours? Most of the time this is a sign of a Chemical imbalance and can be corrected rather quickly with the right medication. There is nothing wrong with getting help from a psychiatrist to find some peace, because everyone has some sort of glitch they were born with and it is not a sign of weakness. The mind is naturally an imperfect (like everything else around us)instrument and we need to tend to its misfiring otherwise it usually gets worst and not better. ~Kurt~

Aloha Mieke

I have had and have the wonderful experience of working with People with the condition Alzheimer's and it is so comforting to know what a sense of unity they are feeling. After my scheduled time, I am always energized. The left brain comes in every so often but quickly leaves and is forgotten.

I just dropped off a copy I was able to make of Jill Botle Taylor's video to my girlfriend whose mother suffered a stroke on her left side of the brain. I know when she shows it to her mother who too, took quite awhile to recover, her stellar memory will be activated where her pain body will be deactivated. I also audio copied Deepak's message for we listen over and over to understand his perception, to be included in our own. There are many yets out there for all of us as well as miracles. Truth always follows.

I will check out Dr. PIm van Lommel's book "Endless Consciousness." The people I work with love hearing stories of NDEs while they are waiting to make their transitions. love patty

Thanks Patty for the lovely sharing :)

Am very grateful. Sometimes I see my mother smile and I know she is already most of the time in heaven :)

Love, Mieke

Many People Including myself sometimes turn their attention away from God realisation because of the things that are going on in their life. In spiritual circles this is refered to as Sin or distraction/unconsciousness of the divine.

In fact God realisation is the ultimate thing that one can be busy doing.

When one comes close to the universal presence all of the problems drop away and one becomes in a state where nothing can phase you.

The ultimate state of being.

This is what we try to achieve in the quitening of the mind and in the doorway that will expose our understanding to the presence of totality.

Try to imagine a time when you felt very very uptight about a particular thing... maybe it was when you thought your puppy had ran away when you were a child? Maybe it was a time when you thought a loved one may die or you could be sacked from your job.

This is the normal state of consciousness for most people.

Now imagine when you found your puppy, You were told by the doctor everything is going to be fine, or you got a premotion instead of the sack.

The feeling of elation that comes from these experiences is quite close to discovering the feeling of totality.

Words can not describe knowing that everything is always totaly ok in the field of the divine.

Love

Simon x

Well, I can see that I cannot explain an experience to someone who has no knowledge in the area of the experience, nor to one who is not open to the unknowable. I think we should not assume that we know it all, as the mind becomes closed and separated from the One Mind. Will one tell a prophet or a medium to take a drug, so that one does not have to deal with the truth? It's pitiful and that's what society does to those who are different. And BTW: I function very well and in fact, exceptional. So what are you afraid of? That I will hear your thoughts? That I can, if it be the will of God? That others can, if they the believe? Are you afraid that there is a God listening to you? God laughs at the children like a parent enjoying themselves. The Bible says that God talks all the time to us, but no one listens, nor sees.

Love, Char

Dear Char,

I was just trying to help you see God. The problem is the mind, if one can’t silence the mind by keeping it still, it just gets in the way like a road block. Hearing voices from the dead is not a good thing, they are lost Souls looking for away out by finding a host. Saints in heaven or God, do not speak in words and the only way to get the information is through a silent mind. After my realization my mind is easily silenced and the information flows from within, because the conduit is now cleared between the Soul and the mind. I wanted you to be able to meditate so I can guide you to the truth, sorry for offending you. ~Kurt~

Kan - Thanks for explaining. Just to say, you are assuming a lot of things about me that are not true. I can see how my posts can mislead someone who does not know me, so I appreciate you bringing this to my attention. I had incorrectly mixed up my past experiences with my current state (more like left a lot out) and did a very poor job of sharing myself, as I tried to explain something. I do meditate, but not like before. I don't need to practice anymore, as it is natural and called up when I desire help or need comfort. Understand that I have peace within. I know that I am still learning and growing, as we all are, so I am trying to get use to my new self which is better than the old. Then I am sure I will change clothes again and again! I like the way Deepak can speak to all the many different levels at the same time to where everyone can understand him. That takes great wisdom and understanding, as well as love and compassion. Maybe when I stop focusing on myself so much, some of Deepak might rub off on me :-). However, I'm still working on some of my shadows.

Love, Char