Dear Avtar,
the beauty of life is Fullness
and I relish it,
ALL

love,
~ Kate

I am reminded of a song . . .

Avatar, do you still have time to waste? You advise people to dissolve the ego, it means you yourself must have dissolved it, and since no ego no time, time must not exist for you. How come you talk of wasting it?

Why egoless state of enlightenment incarnate wholesome reality allowed the development of ego in it in the first instance if it is now considered so enlightening to dissolve it? And if it is only an illusion for people like us lesser mortals because of our vision being less than of universal consciosuness then how come you yourself see it? You should at least see no ego in it. Ramana Maharshi said "To a Jnani (Giani, knower of reality)everybody is a jnani." Translated for our purposes here it will mean "To a person without ego everybody will be without ego." How come you see egos around? Dont tell me that Nanak spoke about it, or Buddha or anybody else for that matter, I do not believe in any second hand or quoted knowledge, irrespective who is quoted. I know there times were different.

If quantum theory is not fully understood till date so was every other theory before their times. Why were they not just ignored. Why any progress was continued to be made in them? Do you know how many times people have already declared physics to have been completed. It was so declared even in the ninteenth century. Even before the discovery of relativity theory not to talk of quantum theory. How as a scientist this fact sits with you, especially from the mouth of a non-scientist?

How come universal consciosuness which should normally be supposed to know all does not know anything about antimatter and all that. Anti matter and beyond that, the virtual matter (which is not the same as universal consciosuness) comprises about 99.999% of the universe. Dirac discovered antimatter and then looked still deeper and was aghast to find that there still existed a sea later known as the Dirac's sea full of virtual particles, a domain which some day quantum theory hopes to explain. How your theory can claim to explain EVERYTHING yet ignore this part and its place in the universal scheme of things? Analogically speaking, you can't claim to dilate time at the end of the day and declare that it is dead of night. You will have to traverse the whole 24 hours and reach the dead sleep state to really reach the state where time really dilates to zero and where the ego will on its own have been transcended. Before that you must go through and explain all the states including the state when we are lost in our thoughts under our quilts and beyond that when we are lost in our dream states to reach that state. Both the above states too are part of our reality.

Harb

I am beginning to wonder whether to or

whether not to take the final gulp, Avtar.

The last drop cannot possibly be drank until the last moment, can it?

So we keep sucking it up, and taking it like a man till death do us part.

.

I think I shall chew, chew, chew, and chew some more,

savoring every last bite and scrumptious morsel before...

Hell! I might even spit a time or two before "down the hatch" it goes!

(Do the highly enlightened ones burp, belch and hiccup like normal people?)

.

As a man, I believe that a few activities require my gravest attention.

When my ass is on the line and alertness is a necessity,

I have no wordy thoughts, but I am quite ready to act.

For my own part, attention and a relaxed, confident awareness of my surroundings

keeps my ego from pulling the "woe is me" card.

Then, at that point, I no longer have to consciously ignore distractions.

.
Cheers to you, Avtar!
The Local

Thank you, Avtar. That was very nice.

Dear Avtar,

Thank you for the great lesson. In paragraph 5, you mentioned the confusion in interpretations of the ONE universal reality. This brought to my mind the awareness of the multitude of religious faiths and various practices in the world. Each one feels that it holds the only true message from its God. The concept of UNITY and the true brotherhood of man has escaped the notice of the multitude of worshippers. The Law of One or UNITY is where the focus should be.

Also, in paragraph 6, you mentioned how the art of listening and observing is as important as the art of describing. Unfortunately, there are not many good listeners to be found because of the myriad preconceived opinions floating about.

Thank you again for the valuable lesson.

"Betsy" S.

Dear Avtar,

"Attention is not awareness but thought. Meditation does not have a focal point of attention but dissolution of it. A focal point of attention is limited in space-time. Universal consciousness gets veiled by attention or thought like clouds in the sky".

Well said, meditation is to withdraw your attention from the world and mind. I think it might help if I add one more thing, which is the Souls focal point (its vision) is blinded by the clouds of space-time.

"Universal consciousness is pure motion, while stillness (motionlessness) is unconsciousness or death".

What I would like to say here is that life is a series of memories (motion), and this doesn’t end in the unconscious state or death, for memories continue in the form of dreams, such as in sleep or being knocked unconscious. When you die it doesn’t necessarily mean a free pass to Eternity as is suggested here. Motionless can also be witnessed after the ego is surrendered (you can call it death) but it doesn’t mean the death of the body mind. ~Kurt~

I was listening to Fred Alan Wolf this week or Steven Schwartz on time travel and nonlocality topics.

It was probably Wolf who was describing an experiment I won't get into. However, he said, they went "Back from the future, into the past, when it was the present, to make it come out in a certain way in the first instant."

I stopped the CD, reviewed, reviewed again, and then wrote it down.

I thought ... now there's the key to everything regarding nonlocality and results and I hope one day to go beyond intuitively grasping the concept.

To me it makes such a joke of time that it stresses how time concepts get in the way of our ability to understand capacity to influence things we are separated from by, really, space.

Earth and Sky-lover: In the lowliest places at the bluest of times

.

Hey Kurt! I think only History stands still.

As a rock wishes to bow to gravity,

the spirit wishes to rest where it lies.

The foundation upon which thy faith stands

draws the trump suit you wear to bed.

I prefer sleeping in hearts, w/clubs hidden away.

Attend to what you will, or not...or else what?

Hey Keith,

A rock that bows to gravity,
has no sign of history.
The spirit that rests in nothingness,
had nothing to begin with.
The person that sleeps with hearts,
Has acquired everything from nothing.
It means that history stands alone,
on that which trumps everything.
Stillness holds the hand, and the hand
holds the cards of history.
Play them any way you want,
For you will loose everything anyways.
But you had nothing to begin with.
Since nothing is destined to be nothing, nothing is your history.

Dear Avtar,

Jai Guru Deva

:)

Mieke

To move in stillness
is a wonderful basis
for peace inside
and stillness in movement
puts all your thoughts aside

Wouldn't it be great
if we could all reach this state
cause the vision that will arise from there
Is able to change All That Is, everywhere

The labyrinth is a path of peace
it gives meander, reflection and release

Love, from the heartphone

Mieke

Dear Avatar,
I feel you mix truth with error. As long as we still look to the sky...we will see clouds.

To some, everything is God....to me God is everything. Knowing the difference sets you free.

Enjoy a few lines from Lao Tze's Tao Te Ching:

Many consider my teaching to be nonsense.
But the profound is a lot like nonsense.
If a teaching does not seem nonsensical, then it must be trivial.

Thank you Harb. I enjoy your great insight and wisdom.

Lol Vivian, I laugh at the word wisdom attached to me, but yes, I also laugh at the wisdom being proclaimed by some socalled learned men here.

Some people who have experienced 'nap' in midday think it is actually 'night' they experienced and try to explain things from that perspective. We must find and listen to people if we must who have traversed the whole cycle of 24 hours. Then coming and going of egos no longer have the same importance. Only this much now.

"Mind (ego) must dissolve just like matter to achieve non-locality of the universal consciousness."

I have thought about this and had discussions with other people.. finally I got the most consistent answer I was looking for from this friend I recently met.

How and when does Ego "dissolve"?

Answer: ONLY the Hightest Egos dissolve. And nothing *other than* Ego dissolves it. Ego is its own killer!

For more thoughts on this, read this:
http://drishtikone.com/?q=blog/singularity-and-ego

Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com

Dear Desh,

I am going to read your blog in a minute.

I want to give you my first spontaneous reaction:

You say: "Only the highest Egos dissolve", etc.

Therefore one will have to have one's highest vision: "Unconditional Love", that which makes "everything" possible :)

The highest vision from Above
is No Doubt: Unconditional Love

Mieke

Mieke:

Thanks! :-) Talking of the highest ego - I was talking of "Aham Brahmasmi" (I am the Brahman). Now, I feel a lower ego manifests relational content necessarily .. "This is mine".. "He is mine".."My country"..."My Guru"

Higher ego is different.. it makes the person become the observed. "I am Brahman"... "I am my society".. "I am the Good and the bad".. "I am the Himalayas" (as Krishna said)..

That is the difference. I discuss the similarity of how a star loses its existence when it collapses in a black hole - losing all internal push forces that made that matter stand "up".. to the gravitational energies it has.

Sacrifice can help only so much..

And in my humble view, Unconditional Love is not a goal.. or an act.. meaning its not intentional... its a by-product, if you will.

Thanks :-)
-desh

Dear Desh,

Thank you for educating me :)

What I do not understand though is that I have seen Avtar on video talking about the fact that when we dissolve Ego, there will be no use for war anymore.

About what war is he talking then?

Mieke

Time embodies the Spirit of humanity
(or perhaps gravity does better,
or even the mixed continuum created thereof!)
because this allows us to look back
in praise and condemnation, and to look forward
with hope and apprehension:

yet only the active present provides the time for liberation!

Grasping mind immaterial
we come forth within a breath of God,
a collectivizing consciousness,
streaming towards infinity:
from a background of unspeakable divinity
choosing to diffuse creation unto eternity

a Nameless glory who left cosmic background traces awaits.

Literal, allegorical, moral, mystically eschatological,
perhaps realities of interpretation encompassing
other dimensions of hope, life, and even faith
revealed in creation’s unfolding Charity,
have yet to impact the way we universally think:

unlocking the cosmic background; micro, macro & in-between.

Shall the righteous ones always number
simply 36? Will the repairing never end . . .
Or is an entire generation willed to One
the preselected end?
Humanity’s physical, (non)national,
and spiritual uniting in One intent → God:

a cosmic mirror peering back at our Creator!

Baal and false prophets with lying dreams,
yet bewitching people of our world –
lying to us, dividing us, & sacrificing us – Alas!
“Is not my word like fire [empyrius!],” declares the Lord,
the hammer of Truth that rends stone to pieces.
Through a faithful people led by faithful prophets

shekinah shall come to dwell throughout the lands!

The anger of the Lord shall not return,
til he hath performed the thoughts of his heart:
in the latter days
ye shall consider it perfectly.
Jeremiah 23:20. I’ll take that “ye” as we; how bout you?
Hum with me, “Hear, O Israel!

The LORD is our God! The LORD is One!”

Amen

Dear Mieke:

Thanks, but honestly I am not adequate enough to "educate" another :-) I am just learning everyday and observing what I feel.

"Ego and war": First, I think just as it is not possible to create pure joy just by thinking, it is probably not possible to "dissolve ego" of your own accord.

And, I am not sure why the spiritualists are so obsessed with War or its absence? War, violence, bigger/better taking out the smaller is a natural law.. I didn't make that law.. nobody did.. and there is no way we can enforce that on a cosmic scale. I mean I would like to save the smaller galaxies from the larger ones in the name of Cosmic right of a galaxy.. but I cant. :-) So, how long and until where can I or we stop "war" or violence? And why? if it was not "meant" to happen, would it be part of the creation or our mind?

So, in that sense.. I would argue that once the ego has been dissolved (by whichever mechanism) .. then war as well as love become "irrelevant".

What do you think?

Cheers,
Desh
drishtikone.com

Desh, I agree with your statement on war, and that's why all the great teachers talked about detachment as the way towards inner peace. ~Kurt~

Harb,

I think you made some good points in #3, the power of the question! Great teachers rely more on questions than statements. Questions lead to greater "self" discovery, and the greater self is something to be discovered.

I deliberate in my own mind the notion that it takes ego to see ego, because I find myself seeing it. I don't know if it applies to every context but I see the insight and truth behind the notion.

I wonder though if it is not the fictions that I see being acted upon and not so much ego. I think an ego operating in truth is divine, it is that ego operating from fiction that is anharmonic.

As for the ego dissolution issue I don’t think it’s that complicated or esoteric. One perspective is that one gets tired of the ego screwing things up, or the undesired long term or near future results of acting in one’s self interest that is a detriment to any other self.

After a period of unsatisfactory results we are moved to tame or transcend it with wisdom. Then the miracles follow because it is the ego (illusion of separation) that blocks a flood of miracles from happening manifesting on the planet to create balance and harmony.

There is a big difference between ego acting out of ignorance and ego that embraces wisdom.

I have been in a conundrum for years regarding everything I experience as a product of my own consciousness which is true to a degree. When the shadow appears I wonder why am I creating this. Of course the shadow is sometimes our friend directing our path or is not really a shadow perhaps it is the fact we don’t understand why it is happening that makes it a shadow, that is why it is said do not resist evil, and go with the flow, we don’t know enough to be directing anything but out attention.

Yet each of us is also a unique perspective and rightly so or there would be no one to play with. If one were the puppet master and everyone else a puppet everything would be totally predictable so who would want that?

As for science and God I think it helps to look at God as the operating system or kernel. The many beings (individuals) are processes or threads that run on top of the kernel. Of course the operating system keeps all the threads running within certain boundaries allocating resources to them etc. I don’t think what we refer to as God is a being of linear thought but something of comprehensive knowing and happening with one simple impetus the expansion of life, consciousness and experience.

#13 gives me a little bit of comfort, I question my sanity often.

Keep up the good work.

I forgot to mention I think science is all about understanding how the kernel works so we can embellish our experience creating, integrating and adapting.

This planet was a well designed paradise; science saw it as flawed due to a lack of understanding.

Science has correctly discovered the math behind many things; the problem is in the interpretation.

Detachment

If you are attached to appearances.
How will you see that which is beyond them.
If your attached to personal ideals.
How will you see that which is impersonal and whole.
If your attached to the good and bad.
How can you see that which is beyond duality.
If you are still pursuing external and sensual desires.
How will you be able to break free from them.
If you are afraid of decay and death.
How will you be able to except eternity as your destiny.
If you are attached to anything that doesn’t last.
How will you be able to see that which lasts.
~Kurt~

Uh-o me ode is off a line, have to fix it a lil later!

Good stuff everybody

Remember that dude from Laugh-In, "veryyy interestingggg," a funny little guy in a trench coat trying to do his best Peter Lorre looking back (been about 35 years since I have seen Laugh-In so I may be a little off . . .)

Time embodies the Spirit of humanity
(or perhaps gravity does better,
or even the mixed continuum created thereof!)
because this allows us to look back
in praise and condemnation, and to look forward
with hope and apprehension:

yet only the active present provides the time for liberation!

Grasping mind immaterial
we come forth within a breath of God,
a collectivizing consciousness,
streaming towards infinity:
from a background of unspeakable divinity
choosing to diffuse creation unto eternity

a Nameless glory who left cosmic background traces awaits.

Literal, allegorical, moral, mystically eschatological,
perhaps realities of interpretation encompassing
other dimensions of hope, life, and even faith
revealed in creation’s unfolding Charity,
have yet to impact the way we universally think:
unlocking the cosmic background, micro, macro, & in-between

lying between us all yet unseen.

Shall the righteous ones always number
simply 36? Will the repairing never end . . .
Or is an entire generation willed to One
the preselected end?
Humanity’s physical, (non)national,
and spiritual uniting in One intent → God:

a cosmic mirror peering back at our Creator!

Baal and false prophets with lying dreams,
yet bewitching people of our world –
lying to us, dividing us, & sacrificing us – Alas!
“Is not my word like fire,” declares the Lord,
the hammer of truth that rends stone to pieces.
Through a faithful people led by faithful prophets

shekinah shall come to dwell throughout the lands!

The anger of the Lord shall not return,
til he hath performed the thoughts of his heart:
in the latter days
ye shall consider it perfectly.
Jeremiah 23:20. I’ll take that “ye” as we; how bout you?
Hum with me, “Hear, O Israel!

The LORD is our God! The LORD is One!”

Dear Desh,

Since I was never allowed to have an ego anyway, how should I know what it is?

I only know in my life that it is all good, whatever I do and that I do not have to worry about anything.

Talking about attachment and detachment, well, the older one gets, the lesser one is attached and if allowed, one slowly grows towards detachment in the end, i guess.

Everybody here thinks differently about it.
For me it is good to read and learn.

But it doesn't alter my inner truth, which cannot be explained.

Mieke

Mieke, I must warn you, as of now you are ATTACHED to writing poems looool.

Desh, I too think that war was meant to happen but that within it are the seeds of emancipation...integral.
It could be the abscess that gets the poison out of the system, perhaps. But no, I don't even believe that.
Basically wars arise over perceived territories and the 'fittest' ensuring survival, that is for dumb animals, of course.
If someone walked into my house and took it over then war would ensue, I'm a dumb animal! If I were a wandering religious, trusting in an inner strength, that would not arise but death might, all the same, regardless of war. This is worthy of deeper meditations
I think being unattached is an ivory tower. If my brother is attached I must meet him there and walk on into God knows where! There is exponential strenghth in numbers
Yes God decrees war until war no longer decrees Him. In every moment we have that choice and God stands by it.
Hard to express, really, but we can all try, without going to war!!

Falling for senses, for emotions or loves, wars, hates, for intellectual concepts, for even spirituality is there in the scheme of things because of four basic forces, or because of primordial action and reaction between energy produced at big bang and the matter present at singularity. So in a way it is all God given. Yes, at the same time our individual endeavor will be to fall for them but eventually rise above them.

Yo, Harb!

I heard it said, that to sing, dance or write poetry; is an expression of the "hidden Self"..the reflection of one's ancient, "inner Godness"...or in Mieke's case--Goddess. : )

Love,
North

Moon mind stop their growth at mind. That’s why when they talk about for example consciousness it seems like mind is describing about consciousness as if cloud is talking about sky. As per as cloud and sky is concern cloud is a phenomenon sky is not. Clouds exist momentary. There is no way to describe scientifically as one state of the Zero-point energy the state of universal consciousness, eternity, emptiness, oneness, enlightenment, godliness, awareness, and Samadhi. Moon mind has no authority; they talk always taking support of somebody it can be Jesus, Buddha, Einstein or anything. In meditation one goes beyond mental process. Meditation can be anything but to reach that state one has to go thru meditation technique and only an enlighten person can produce this technique. Moon mind has to understand that spirituality is not easy stuff as they think.

Or...... make beautiful designs dear North :)

Expressings one's creativity is pure bliss.

Dear Harb,

As it so happens, I subscribed to a painting course lol

Love, Mieke

Hi North, everything is an expression of the hidden-Self. But while other types of expressions are bound by certain parameteres, singing, dancing and poetry underline hidden-self's freedom from them. The more you are oblivious to any rules or parametres the better and proportionately more nearer to your hidden-self your singing, dancing and poetry will be.

I was just having some fun with Mieke in saying that she is attached to poetry. Really except for some fun I have nothing to write about but still get entangled now and then and then wonder why.

Since this ALL is One's or Universal Consciosuness' own Play, and which means all are It, all must be speaking the truth. It is like you are seeing your own computer in front of you I am seeing mine and our fight is like you arguing that the truth is like your computer and I should see it like you while I saying that the truth is like my computer and you should see it like me. This goes - through suitably altered truths - right up to the level when we reach universal consciosuness but then if my experience is anything to go by we see nothing but universal consciosuness itself all around, or even going beyond we simply forget such trivialities and enjoy being....like a small child. He is simply busy being and enjoying being as one and not that one part of him or her is lost in such questions or seeing such thing while the other is busy being.

Forgive if anybody is bored I just had some time to waste. In fact I have eternity lol.

So Mieke we were again writing at the same time? Lol, you draw me or I draw you. I felt forced to write a few lines and on completion find that you too must be writing at the same time.

Anyway, nothing like painting...In my childhood I had the habit of painting on the sky with my finger....I got rid ofit after a few years lol.

The Father is the sun, we (as humans) are the light.
We as the light are consciousness...light is consciousness (conscious & unconscious...duality).

Recognizing that there is no sun without light nor light without sun, we recognize our oneness with the "Father".... One Being one being...God/Spirit.

We are neither the sun, nor it's reflection. We are both: two being one..Being.

Or with other "words":

God is all possiblities...consciousness reflects these possibilities. Yet we are none of these particular possibilities but all possibilities.

Mieke,

“Since I was never allowed to have an ego anyway, how should I know what it is?”

The ego is your identification to the body and mind, and when you still have that, you have desires and fears that are anchored in the world, they occupy and control ones life. And, that identity can be totally dissolved (only) through self-realization, which is to see and become your true identity. Wanting to be a creative person can stem from that body identity.

“Talking about attachment and detachment, well, the older one gets, the lesser one is attached and if allowed, one slowly grows towards detachment in the end, i guess.”

Yes, that’s what suppose to happen as you age, the ego gets more mature by letting go of things when it realizes it’s loosing all control of them. But, if you hang around the elderly you will discover in most cases it doesn’t happen naturally. And, if you die early before your body and mind forces its detachment on you through decay, its a problem, and that’s why spirituality and this site is so important to our development.

Another word for detachment is acceptance, for if you want only the good and beautiful to exist in the world your attached to a singularity, when you can’t have the good and beautiful without the bad and ugly while living in duality. Just to say something or another person is beautiful means something or another person is ugly. So, you, Edmund, and Vivian are correct in saying all is good, and all serves a greater purpose, whether it is for me or against me, its nothing personal just the play of opposites.

Vivian, I can tell by your posts that you have a good understanding of spirituality. ~Kurt~

Thanks Kurt, but it is only good... if any good comes from it : )

Hi Harb,

Well, now we're painting space lol

About painting that sky, it brought me immediately back on the page in the poetry book, about the Universe, where North's picture of painting the sky with a finger is seen and immediately thereunder her vision of space.

Well, seems we are in sync today :)

Giving it all back to the Universe in gratitude,

Mieke

Hi Kurt,

The only thing I know is that since I discovered the labyrinth in a course for people that retire from work, here in our country, and since I walk this labyrinth regularly, it brings the "hidden factor" outside, whether I want it or not lol

I walk that labyrinth, give everything back to "God" in the middle of it, then walk back and when out, i receive another inspiration.

I never knew I had this "power". For me this is spirituality expressed through creativity. And All is Good, always in all ways.

Love, Mieke

Vivian,

Aren't you throwing things into one bucket? Your definition of what is good? Because bad events can lead to a very good outcome and serve a better purpose. Sure some things can be labeled bad, but if it happens, it was suppose to happen, and there is not much anyone can do about it, except, accept it and try not to judge it or label it. ~Kurt~

My last entry to Vivian is confusing. What I mean is a bad outcome for you maybe a good outcome for another. ~Kurt~

Yes, Kurt you are right! But were you not the first to judge? A post is neither good nor bad...it just is what it is.

Many think that judging something as "good" is o.k. and not a judgment. But you can't have "good" without "bad".

Moving beyond the appearace of "good" and "bad"..one arrives at perfection. Death represents "bad" birth represents "good", beyond the appearance is the circle of Life, which includes both but is neither.

Only when we see a bigger/whole picture do we see perfection in all.

Dear Vivian,

Yes, I saw my mistake and I thought I had corrected it with my next post.

The issue is here is that I think we are caught up in two schools of thought, which is that of Bhogi yoga and the Yoga Marga. The Bhoga Marga (the worshiper) says its all good and surrenders doing to God, for if it happened it is God’s doing and not mine. While the yogi says it is all (duality) bad, if you will, and surrenders it all to God, to find that which doesn’t oscillate in duality.

The thing is we were never born and we will never die in reality, therefore how is either one good or bad. You can also consider death as the ultimate purifier, which is a very good thing.

Are we even more tangled up now? ~Kurt~

Dear Desh,
I liked what you said in #19. I couldn't quite get a thorough uderstanding. I studied it. Maybe it was a typo, or an English grammar suffix problem, or whatever. No matter.
I did agree with your last sentence, though. Yes. I do.
Yours,

dear Mieke,
Walking at the park is the delight of many of my early evening/late evening strolls
(sometimes in circles)
and in jaunts around the river ...
I still find my way back home!

love,
~ Kate

hi Harb,
are you free to paint the sky with me
today?
:)
~ Kate

dear Kurt,
in your comment #23
you speak of detachment.

For me, it's been to go fully into the creation, not withdraw,
to find the 'pearl of great price'
Oneness Awareness.

Many paths
one destination.
Time frame - unlimited.
Experience
priceless
:)

love,
~ Kate

Yes, Kate, and how wonderful that we can paint a common picture on the sky from our different locations.

Perhaps the same thing happens when we look into the 'sky' within, which is the core of apparently our separate beings....There too we can paint the common picture....

Love, Harb

Hi Kate,

Yes this daily walking in the park is a true delight for me too as I stroll along with my little dog. Because he is already rather old we are not going that fast anymore and I have plenty of time to look around, listen to the birds and have pleasant talks with others there, in the rain or in the sunshine :)

The labyrinth is something personal, it has many ways in which one can use it, although it does not appeal to everyone :)

Love, Mieke

Mieke: To have no ego is a perfect state. I am happy to know such a person. :-)

love,
-d.

Edmund: I believe that war should be the last resort, but if it has to be fought then so be it. I have no moral issues this way or that. Violence is as beautiful as non-violence. There is nothing to feel superior or ashamed of any of these two things. Both have their place in the scheme of things... and that is how they ought to be treated.

my two cents.. :-)

============

li'l Dakini:

Thanks! My bad. I think faster than I can write and usually I dont write too well for comprehension.. I try my best to write as simple as I should but I usually trip over :D

I am happy at least you got the jist of what I said... in any case, what I say may be just nonsense.. so I guess everyone has to get his/her own Truth..

If what I have written - inadequate as it is - can trigger questioning in your mind, we will all be better off.

Cheers,
-desh
drishtikone.com

Dear Kate, when's this banquet? I think we might be running out of time! Trust me.

Hugs

LOL Kurt, no I'm cool..how about you?

I don't know anything about Yoga, but see my understanding reflected in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Hi Desh,

Your write: "I am happy to know such a person. :-)
"

Well that can be understood in two ways.

It would be great for you if you have such a person in your life :)

If it is a compliment to me, well then I am still blushing at my age lol, a little tiny ego ?
:)

Thanks, Mieke

Mieke:

Both of your statements are true! :-) You are such a sweet person...

Cheers,
desh

Very true Mieke.... art too. : )

#37-Harb..thanks..I were just pondering what I'd heard about the closeness to Godness, when one's creative side is in its higher level. where I once worked, I sang all the time; and someone mentioned it.

I have difficulty understanding the logistics of attachment/detachment, local/non-local, duality/non duality. I get confused by the terminology. lol

All I know is...I am where I "think I am" not necessarily, where I actually "am". Did I hit a nail on the head? Or, am I way off? ((smiles))

Love,
North

Hi Vivian, I think I misunderstood you. ~Kurt~

Hi Kate, I think your talking about Bhogi yoga on #50.

Can someone tell me what these signs mean LOL, :-), or :), I'm still a rookie in blogging. ~Kurt~

laughing out loud/lots of love

:-) smiley-face, :) smiley-face

Me name is a linked answer to your existential questioning fair North!

:-)

can't watch vid's.. dial-up victim I am. This is in large part, why I don't comment on most of Deepak's posts; as most have to watch vid's first.

This page took almost fifteen or more minutes for me to load tonight, and 2 refresh's.... sometimes IB will load for me in 2-3; I can handle 2-3 min's. lol

Phone co. wants me to sign a contract for DSL; the only way out of that contract is if one moves out of their service area. Now, if my PC konks out, or the monitor..etc. I am still bound to pay the DSL.

Now, that sounds gangland to me... lol which is so pathetic, because americans put dudes in the slammer, just for getting caught smoking a J. yet banks, gas and oil co's, insurance co's and phone co's can nickle and dime a consumer to financial death...

tnx anyhoo... but a typewritten answer is needed as you now know. ; )

Love,
North

I enjoyed your post Avtar. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

Love, Char

I can totally relate North! You know that.

My video link is just to the Cheshire Cat scene in Alice in Wonderland.

Comes in smiling, talks some mess, declares us all mad, and goes out smiling . . .

Gangggga goooood ! ! !

Peace

dear Edmund,
we are running out of
words
not time
never
dearest
~ Kate

Answer: ONLY the Hightest Egos dissolve. And nothing *other than* Ego dissolves it. Ego is its own killer!

...Thanks! :-) Talking of the highest ego - I was talking of "Aham Brahmasmi" (I am the Brahman). Now, I feel a lower ego manifests relational content necessarily .. "This is mine".. "He is mine".."My country"..."My Guru"

Higher ego is different.. it makes the person become the observed. "I am Brahman"... "I am my society".. "I am the Good and the bad".. "I am the Himalayas" (as Krishna said)..

19. Posted by Desh kapoor

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Most seek to expand their personal balloon until they encompass what they imagine to be "infinity".

Their efforts are spent entirely protecting and accumulating.

A few will see the futility of this endeavor and be willing to expose their balloon to the sharp edges of a sage.

Re:#48
Dear Desh, I'm still thinking about your Highest Ego and lower ego. Maybe its like 2 hard drives being utilized by one operating system. Maybe its like schizophrenia without Right Knowlege, Right Guidance. (tears in my heart)
Looked up Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. The concept was important enough for him to mention - Book 4:21.
Turns out one of the hard drives is not made of metals.