This artcile is based on a study publsihed in Jan. 31, 2008 issue of ACS' Journal of Physical Chemistry B.

http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jpcbfk/2008/112/i04/abs/jp7112297.html

I don't see any mention of (genetic)"telepathy" or "impossible" in the original artcile. Rather, I see (scientifically)"possible" effects over a "distance" consistent with the authors' theoretical predictions.

Go read it, if you have brains to understand a proper science artcile, not just junk science.

Abstract:

...We now find that sequence recognition occurs between intact DNA duplexes without any single-stranded elements as well. We have imaged a mixture of two fluorescently tagged, double helical DNA molecules that have identical nucleotide composition and length (50% GC; 294 base pairs) but different sequences. In electrolytic solution at minor osmotic stress, these DNAs form discrete liquid-crystalline aggregates (spherulites). We have observed spontaneous segregation of the two kinds of DNA within each spherulite, which reveals that nucleotide sequence recognition occurs between double helices separated by water in the absence of proteins, CONSISTENT with our earlier theoretical hypothesis. We thus report experimental evidence and discuss POSSIBLE mechanisms for the recognition of homologous DNAs from a DISTANCE. [My emphasis]

Thanks, Vanessa.

Thanks Vanessa-
and i even gots 'nuff brains to spell "article"
not "artcile"

meant in good fun-
not mean spirited-

really appreciate the link-

be well!
renee

#1&2 I just knew you guys were going to turn up, so became the Third.. Jeez. How spooky is that? ;)

Yo Renee,
Go check this out with Vernon Victor Woolff. He might have a plausible explanation. It's all clutter to me ;)

http://www.holodynamics.com/

Yo Ed,

"Go check this out with Vernon Victor Woolff. He might have a plausible explanation."

Renee's post is about a specific study and her claims(parroting some distorted reports) about "genetic telepathy" 'based' on those findings.

From Vanessa's link to the publication, here are possible "explanations" by the authors of the paper:

http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/jpcbfk/2008/112/i04/html/jp7112297.html

"...We hypothesize that the origin of this recognition may be as follows. In-register alignment of phosphate strands with grooves on opposing DNA minimizes unfavorable electrostatic interactions between the negatively charged phosphates and maximizes favorable interactions of phosphates with bound counterions. DNAs with identical sequences will have the same structure and will stay in register over any juxtaposition length. Nonhomologous DNAs will have uncorrelated sequence-dependent variations in the local pitch that will disrupt the register over large juxtaposition length. The register may be restored at the expense of torsional deformation, but the deformation cost will still make juxtaposition of nonhomologous DNAs unfavorable.14 The sequence recognition energy, calculated from the corresponding theory is consistent with the observed segregation within the existing uncertainties in the theoretical and experimental parameters (Supplemental Theory). This energy is ~1 kT under the conditions utilized for the present study, but it is predicted to be significantly amplified, for example, at closer separations, at lower ionic strength, and in the presence of DNA condensing counterions.

Presently, we cannot exclude other mechanisms for the observed segregation. For instance, sequence-dependent bending of double helices may also lead to homology recognition by affecting the strand-groove register of two DNA molecules in juxtaposition. The juxtaposition of bent, nonhomologous DNAs may also be less energetically favorable under osmotic stress, since it may reduce the packing density of spherulites. In addition, formation of local single-stranded bubbles and base flipping23 may cause transient cross-hybridization between the molecules, as proposed to explain Mg2+ induced self-assembly of DNA fragments with the same sequence and length.16 We consider it to be rather unlikely in this instance, since the probability of bubble formation in unstressed linear DNA of the studied length is very small in contrast to the case where topological strain is relieved by bubble formation in small circular DNA molecules.23 Furthermore, bubble formation would distort the cholesteric order of spherulites and we see no evidence of this in spherulites composed of a single type of DNA molecule.

However, regardless of the underlying mechanism, the segregation of identical DNAs in highly hydrated cholesteric spherulites provides evidence for homology recognition between intact double helices through physical forces as an intrinsic property of DNA."

Yay, 'telepathic' is just a word, Irv. But it doesn't make my brain ache like that little lot!

Ions, ions, that's it. Passion, pass the on ions, varying strengths.
I like them a bit sweet. What a sour bastard I must be. ;)

I think it would be wrong to underestimate the water in these experiments?

#3 Hi Renee,it does seem a bit mean-spirited to make me the Fourth Jesus ;)
I'm serious, though, about Vernon, and I really mean, contact him personally as to what might be going on in these experiments. I, for one, would support a further post from your inquisitive mind on seemingly quantum effects.

It isn't spooky. It's God's intelligent design. God designed the DNA. God whispered into the telepathic action to dazzle the E8 vector quantum relativistic reaction of the gurus of spirituality
whose theories explain science merges with consciousness at nanometer distances with soul at a much higher plane beyond the nonspiritual mind's imagination.

was there an amnesty at IB? damn!

owner of the site...multiple is back?...peerlessly praising himself(eves)! as usual...

who is next to be pardoned? will it be flabsy...our neighborly kentucky farmboy ...gee flabsy...u been gone for ages! did u elope with ur girlfriend... d...a? what a union made in heaven..hehe!

and hey katie...where are u? are u and UT planning something? dang!

#10
No daughter of mine would support a football team, Skep.

Spooky action at no distance at all, I'd say.

As to watery stuff, we cannot afford to overlook the startling revelations of Quazz Emoto's digital enhancements of signatorial eddies now dancing up and down the creek without a paddle. These must be far too spooky to be lost at sea, and I've a hunch, and I expect yours has a signature, too.

Hello Everyone,

Recently I happened upon this information which can be found in John W. Keely's book, "Law of Sympathetic Vibratory Physics":

The energy of the Heart, right down to our DNA is musical and rhythmic in nature.

Vibrations are dynamic things not not unlike
"living" things since they are in a mutual state of "harmony".

When sound harmonics form direct harmonic relations, the two vibrating sounds and their chords of vibration are said to be Sympathetic to each other. In other words, Resonance - Like Attracts Like.

This combined frequency dictates that what happens to one vibratorily happens to the other simultaneously in varying degrees of harmony or dissonance.

This is the Law of Cycles as presented in the book, "Law of Sympathetic Vibratory Physics".

"Betsy" S.

Hello, again -

Just want to add some information to what I already posted.

DNA is a filament; a scientist would describe it as a connective filament. Scientists have found certain codings within certain portions of the DNA; however, there are portions that they cannot translate or figure out, and they call these "junk DNA". They are off track.

The so-called "junk DNA" has the potential of being awakened.

Consciousness/Intelligence is manifested as "Light". The Light - encoded filaments that compose DNA are coming back into alignment as evolution progresses. Our "energy bodies" are becoming more attuned, reaching a higher vibrational rate as the Dynamic Energy Force of the Universe increases its frequency.

Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

I meant to say yesterday that I enjoyed Renee's post as it made me think about God, as well as the law of attraction.

Love, Char

Brilliant post ''Betsy'' ! I wanted to point to the other way of approaching the DNA mystery, but you've done it wonderfully. What you've shared is perfectly in tune with the re-discovery done by Dr Tony Nader ( the successor of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, also known as Adhiraj Raja Raam ), he made a historical brake through in the field of human physiology, genetics and cosmology. Showing, what has been known to the ancient sages, that human body is an expression of the Veda and vedic (literature) sounds.

Human physiology is Consciousness expressed through Veda. With each of its (vedic) 40 aspects expressing a particular value in human physiology.

For example:

~ Rig Veda is expressed as holistic dynamic silence and represents the quality of intelligence structuring the Whole Physiology.
~ Sama Veda is flowing wakefulness and represents quality of intelligence structuring the Sensory Systems ( 1000 doors of perception )
~ Atharva Veda is reverberating Wholeness, reverberating quality in every point structuring the Motor Systems.
~ Yoga is unifying quality of intelligence structuring the Association Fibres of Cerebral Cortex.
~ Gandharva Veda is integrating and harmonizing quality of intelligence structuring the Cycles and Rhythms, or known as
Pacemaker Cells.

And so on, thus when we speak of DNA we speak of the self-referral silence and dynamism projected into entire human physiology. In vedic terms it is known as:

~ Dhanur~Veda it is Invincible and Progressive quality of intelligence structuring the Immune System and Biochemistry.
It has three levels of functioning, the first being the actual sound ( information ) projected into the entire physiology, the second is the biochemical reaction which projects one state into another ( the translation of the DNA information into the RNA production, formation of actual molecules of protein ), or known as cell production. The third is the vertebral column, each vertebrae is divided into 4 parts, they correspond to the 4 chapters of Dhanur~Veda. There are 33 vertebrae every chapter in Dhanur~Veda contains a number of Sutra which is a multiple of 33, reflecting exactly the structure and function of vertebral column.

Jai Gur Dev

igor

P. S. Vanessa is right, there is science and there is junk science. Yet, there is science within the science hidden by the science, which is at the utmost frontier, and because its so revolutionary it would be ''ignored'' at all costs. Don't forget, that the Maharishi Science of Consciousness ( which Deepak is heir ) introduces an entirely new concept of what our physiology and how it should be approached and rectified (when needed). It is the dawn of a new era of working with the power of the sound in order to heal individual and collective aliments. Don't you think the prevalent, mainly drug based, system would do its best to shun away the new re-discovery ? I am talking about the swiss owned Pharmacological Mafia whose share measures in billions of yearly income. They aren't interested in holistic therapies, when launching new chemical drugs against cancer every year. That's why most don't even know about the new technologies based on healing with sounds, yet they are as old as the World.

Oh yeh, how does the above relate to the Betsy's post. Well, all vedic hymns from Rig Veda to The Pratishakyas are composed in verse in a certain meter, which have been revealed to the rishis (seeres) deep in the state of absorption. So the vedic hymns are music and harmony personified, and human physiology is the place of performance of the Heavenly Music par exellence.

Hi Igor,

Have a nice day :) Sky radio....

Lovesongs all day long :

Mieke

Dear Igor,

Thank you so much for the lesson on Vedic Wisdom.

It is fascinating and I surely wish to learn more.

You speak of DNA as the self-referral silence and dynamism projected into the entire human physiology. In Vedic terms, "Dhanur Veda". It is Invincible and Progressive quality of Intelligence structuring the Immune System and Biochemistry.

You sound like a long-standing student of the Vedic Teachings.

Thank You again.

"Betsy" S.

Dear Betsy,

I forgot to mention the menaing of the sanskrit word. Dhanu ~ means bow. Dhanur~Veda ~ the art of archery, or the art of defence. The process of biochemical reactions which project one state into another between molecules represent the value of transformation remenicent to the theme of bow and arrow in the verses of Dhanur~Veda.

Moreover, the triplet code of the DNA is made up of three qualities or frequencies: Rishi ( the observer ), Devata (the process of observation ), Chhandas (the observed); 64 x 3 = 192 units of DNA throughout the lenght of DNA.

I didn't mean to intrigue more, but that's where the vedic wisdom (on DNA) starts and from here goes into eternity.

I am happy to be the eternal student of its wisdom.

Jai Guru Dev

igor

Dear Mieke, your tuning sounds good. Do you know that vertebral column isn't a spine at all? It's the sitar, instrument of Saraswati on which she playes her favorite ragas. All we need to do is to be well tuned at all times.
And you seemed doing just that.

Love

igor