It would seem that it is our 'evil' and our 'pain,' now referring to your previous post, Deepak.

Then what must we resolve as a whole?
This feeding on one another, perhaps, that it become feeding TO one another.....to bring the largeness of Life, the largesse of Love, out of this mind-encapsuled Heart of us and let the Music Play.

Dear Deepak, thanks for sharing, lovely.

I too am not sure if I am breathing or being breathed, and have been trying to come to terms with it for months. I think probably both, depending on perspective.

My thought is constantly evolving and it has now evolved to the idea that there is a finite and infinite perspective to everything.

Truth is relative to perspective, and the two common perspectives are the infinite and finite perspectives. Allowing that the opposite of a truth can also be a truth thus everything can be both true and false depending on perspective, except for math.

The Infinite Self, the One being and the Finite Self, Many beings; the singularity and the plurality. The singularity doing the calculating and processing that is displayed as the plurality.

What one comes to understand as one’s mind is evolving is that we have free will and we do not.

The will or intent of The One Being, is the will of our infinite self, therefore technically it is our will from the infinite perspective. The will or intent of the finite self is also valid but may differ, due to it’s limited perspective from our infinite self’s will and intent. The infinite will and intent would supercede the will and intent of the finite self, yet it would have the best interest of the finite self ingrained. So I suspect as part of it’s orchestration of experience and events, The Play, both noun and verb, that it could take over the finite self, and the finite self may find it’s self doing things that it cannot explain because it was not what was intended from the finite self’s perspective, but it was in deed as intended by the Infinite Self with it’s infinite scope.

The infinite has an unlimited perspective and the finite self has a limited perspective.

Each of us is both the infinite self and a finite self. As for will and intention the infinite self holds the trump card. The infinite self has a vast scope of understanding allowing it to know better than the finite self with it’s inherent limitations. Everything happens perfectly from the infinite perspective yet not always from the finite perspective because of it’s lack of understanding.

Just like we have the two hemispheres of the brain, the left might correlate to the finite self and the right to the infinite self.

The key to a high performance and balanced brain is the corpus callosum, or the communication link / channel between the two hemispheres. The key to a high performance balanced entity is the communication between the infinite and finite self. If we go one step farther the brain, and it’s two hemispheres may be a tangible manifestation of the intangible, finite and infinite entities.

So to carry this to the concept of whole being one must have a functional channel of communication between the infinite and finite self, or in a practical sense to always taking the infinite and finite perspective into account in our daily dealings.

What I have been experiencing and exploring in correlation with this is two types of consciousness; linear (static) consciousness and nonlinear (dynamic) consciousness. I have found that I experience both one while awake in and one while asleep in the normal sense. I increasingly find myself asleep in the dynamic state with a conceptual awareness of something generally of a scientific nature, as I am going thought the shift from one consciousness to the other I am trying to hold on to the concept yet invariably I complete the shift with only a few words related to the concept. I have also discovered I have a second set of memories that are linked to the dynamic state. For example yesterday while asleep in the nonlinear state, I remembered that I had already encountered this concept before and previously tried to bring it back and this was the second time.

I might go so far as two say the right brain represents God and the left the individual to put it into perspective.

Of course this thought will be going into, and has all to do with the themes in Infinite Play the Movie such as The Infinite player and the finite players, the infinite game (singular) and the finite games (plural); the finite player being a limited form of the awareness and infinite player the unlimited form of awareness; the microscope and the macroscope.

Hey maybe you want to invest or play a role in the creation of Infinite Play? Of course since it blends with reality you are technically in it I suppose at least on the documentary side your name gets mentioned. Maybe you can help me with my struggle and I yours not that they are really separate from the infinite perspective.

Why does the brain have two hemispheres? The structure must have a purpose and that purpose may tell us something about the intangible component behind it and more about it’s function. What actually makes them different since they are basically physically the exact same composition?

11:11Θµπ

As addendum I would add..

The Infinite Self would need to provide a certain amount of autonomy to the finite self so that it could have the finite self experience. Remember from Infinite Play the omniscient loves surprise and the omnipotent loves challenge but experiences unavailable to the infinite self “as is”. One would also expect that the Infinite self would have a parent child type of relationship with the finite self. One where it might apply constraints, give a nudge, or direction to the finite self conducive to it’s evolution and expansion of experience. I wouldn’t put it past the infinite self to actually give the finite self a good slap in the butt to get it’s attention.

This is where if the finite self is aware of this relationship it can become aware, detect and understand the intervention and support of the infinite self working behind the scenes depicted as the Mysterious Force in Infinite Play the Movie. If one understands this relationship then as the finite self we can learn to not resist and go with the flow and trust in what is happening, because our omnipotent and omniscient parent has the best intentions for us.

As you all might have gathered I like to use the terms Infinite Self and Finite Self rather than God and man because there is no confusing dogma, or fictional framework linked to the terms.

Dear Dr. Chopra,

Glad to hear that you enjoyed Sedona. It is truly a beautiful and unique place. I wish that you had been speaking here in Scottsdale instead so that I might have been able to attend your lecture.

I've been reading a series by David Wilcock called "The Deeper Secret". His views agree with yours regarding the One Mind - One Information Field - One Emotional Field and that we are all inside One Field of Consciousness. He says how important it is to learn to quiet your mind down and to seek stillness and inner peace. He says that otherwise, thoughts can race through your mind that have nothing to do with you whatsoever - your mind can become a playing ground where the voices (thoughts) of other people have influence.

"Thoughts are Things" and when they are combined with strong emotional intent they can have a powerful impact on others.

David Wilcock states: "We as human beings are co-creating a single lifeforom with the consciousness of the Earth itself ... and many people identify the consciousness as being more female than male, though it has both aspects. Very few people on this planet have truly INDIVIDUATED, where they are actually thinking for themselves and breaking off from the consensus patterns of belief.

Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

Hey Deepak

Richard, You are definitely on the front of the roller coaster.

more awake when dreaming and more dreaming when awake

derek

Hey Richard,

Nice! I like where your going here.

“So to carry this to the concept of whole being one must have a functional channel of communication between the infinite and finite self, or in a practical sense to always taking the infinite and finite perspective into account in our daily dealings.”

This is a good explanation of what happens after self-realization, when you are able to understand the silent and infinite perspective. The finite explosion of thoughts, colors, smells, tastes, forms, feelings and movements take over and drown out the infinite perspective.

“I have found that I experience both one while awake in and one while asleep in the normal sense.”

It sounds like your skirting the edge of falling asleep and dreaming, and the meditative witness watching and becoming aware of it. I found meditating in bed before sleep can be fun and very helpful in controlling your dreams. I use to play around that edge, bouncing back and forth between the conscious meditater, and the unconscious surrendering before loosing control. At times I would have more control and get a feel for that edge and fall over and back, like I’m on a small trampoline.

“I might go so far as two say the right brain represents God and the left the individual to put it into perspective.”

I might as well say: God (Self) is the director of the energy within the bio-form, which activates the brain.

The infinite Self identifies with the finite fake self, and because of which the wisdom of the infinite is squandered for the finite wisdom. ~Kurt~

Better add this too:

The infinite Self is guiding you to yourself as you think about this stuff, and when your not the finite self is guiding you. The infinite Self finds pleasure and peace in researching itself and wants you to keep up the personal and non-personal investigation.

Deepak, you could design and patent a process to wipe out ego in the workplace, research & educational facilities and government, a new form of pest control for a very debilitating creature of fiction.

It would be worth billions and facilitate our evolution and the speed at which we could adapt.

You could also put into the contract to receive a percentage of the resulting increased revenues of each participating entity.

Okay so the ego serves a divine purpose, who wants to play alone? One could target the ignorance endowed ego, the wisdom endowed ego will not eat the lethal to it's fictions bait.

I have my own soul.
I have my own place in Heaven.
I have my own salvation to lose sleep over.

Unless...it was written and predestined to be otherwise.
Besides...my God is wise, and as pure as the newly fallen colorless snow.
Hold on...we say we want experienced leadership, because they know better than to doubt.

Again and again, there comes a time when one becomes bored with the divine, cosmic shenanigans.

Derek, you know with the front of the roller coaster one gets to hang there in anticipation of what they can see is coming. The truth is all of you that created me, and thanks goes out to all who have assisted in my evolution.

I like the "more awake when dreaming and more dreaming when awake" maybe I will quote you some day.

Dear Deepak

The artist in me loves the cool orange title on the video. Harmony with the IB site design. Trivial? Visual peace, for me. Blessings to you.

love, h

Hi KAN, thanks, interesting input that resonates.

In that place between everything and nothing, I am lucid a lot of the time, I don't try to be, it just happens. I usually define that state as when I am physically disconnected from the body there is a technical word for it I don't recall at the moment.

I have even done experiments while there in dream land attempting to understand it, it has surprised me. One time I was experimenting with solidity and physical sensation, which usually seems to be absent, and all of a sudden one of my old dogs Buster appeared, who is no longer physically with us, and he was licking me causing a physical sensation. At the time I was sure that my current dog was in reality licking my face, but then I remembered my body was in my leather chair in the basement, and my current dog was not in the basement at the time or able to come down. When I awoke sure enough no dog, but I was very amazed at the “realness” of the physical sensations which I had never encountered in that realm before. For the longest time whenever I tried to look at the detail say wood grain everything would dissolve, and this was my test to determine if I was awake or not. Recently twice I was able to look at the detail without it dissolving on me, not sure what this means.

I had dreams where I have woken up 3 times but was still actually dreaming and didn’t realize it till I really woke up on the fourth try. I achieved super human powers in the dream world a long time ago but I can’t get them to work in the physical realm, perhaps we are not supposed to, boundaries for a reason. Like I can move objects just by intending it there but nothing happens here.

It may be a result of the special binaural beat frequency combinations I have been working on for 14 years but I don't really need them anymore, there is this new one though I am working on though it erases the mind (especially the emotional past and neural patterns) leaving knowledge in tact and seems to increase intelligence and learning capability much more than the other ones. It also seems to have pushed the bandwidth limit which is about seven bytes. In other words over the course of a second I could remember about seven letters, now it is about 8 -14, It is the same as the consciousness limitation of being able to track about seven things in the mind concurrently.

I have also found out the combinations of compounds to stimulate Neurogenesis I think it is all coming together for some reason that our infinite self knows about.

I don’t think our current brain capacity or capability (linear processing component) is enough to properly manage the complexity of our systems we now have, with the standard nutritionally deficient impaired brain function most would not be able to hold the data and relationships needed to make a human based decision, although computers can do some things they have a trouble with exceptions or anything a rule has not been programmed for. There is no comparison really.
My "dreaming" has evolved over time it is about 50% technical now with no story like scenarios. Sometimes it is like linguistic narration. Quite often I am actually just reading text that appears, if I could only just remember it all.

Sometimes it is like I am looking through the eyes of another having an experience and sometimes I am like in an alternate reality where I have a complete set of memories that go with it.

I still have the occasional typical nonsensical dream, but 90% are logical, and no nightmares.

I think i would have better said,

One could target the ignorance impaired ego, the wisdom endowed ego will not eat the lethal to fiction bait.

Dear Deepak,

I has been sitting here for a while listening to you expressing the same mind and heart :)

I read and smiled when seeing 11.11, thinking of all the 11.11s showing up everywhere. I went to another room, looked out the window, saw a breathtaking panoramic view of a deep blue spring morning sky... and as the breath returned I realized that the two huge signs covering the whole sky, signs made by trails of airplanes... were an X and an I... XI... and I smiled...

Then I remembered the poem that happened when Love first showed itself in all its glory... "I didn't know that your name will be written across the sky"... and saw the same emotion expressed by "the largeness of Life, the largesse of Love".

I smiles a lot. On many faces.

Oh, those beautiful and mysterious Northern Lights, Aurora!
X

One Reality One being.

One thing we all have in common is that we are all being...something. Being "something" is the only thing that separates us from being one being.

I don't believe we are the infinit and the finit as Richard believes. I believe we are infinit which reflects the finit. As the sun reflects light...we are not that light but the sun itself...which reflects light.

To the "breathing" idea I would like to share an experience I had one morning while driving my kids to school. I became aware that I could breath in the world and consciously breath out the world. It felt like I was the breath that gave this world life, yet I was life itself and not the physical appearance of how this breath/life manifested.

Reality is subject to the perceiver. What ever the perceiver believes "himself" to be....so he perceives. This can be an illusion or based on the Truth...depending on being: individual being or the source of all being.

God said once to me: "I am closer than you think". Closer than I think...thinking...thought. Closer than my thought is I am. Before I think I am...being. God is my very being. Thought is what separates us (or creates the experience of separation) from God/all.

That's when I stopped talking to "God" : )

Yo Richard
You are an inspiration to my evolution.

Once someone, no matter where they are on the roller coaster, throws up they're hands, they learn to ride without fear.
I came to a very unusual understanding several years back. I have the freedom to hold on or let go without destroying the ride. It's just a ride.

derek

Hey Deepak
What are you trying to say? I feel like you have surrounded yourself with words and you can't get out.

I have recordings of an audience just before an opera concert. No matter how loud I turn it up all I hear is this strange rummbely static sound. It's all the voices of the people in the audience. Nothing but words but you can not hear a single discernible word. It is the most amazing sound.

peace to you Deepak

derek

Ego isn't a thing it is an abstract behavior
related to the conceptual mindsets of separation
and object (form) identification.
The manifested Universe is a field of vibration (light) which takes on an endless array of forms.
Our world is a frozen version of a star.
Most everything vibrates at such a low level that
the body/mind forms conceptions of each and every form whether it be subtle or gross.
Fusion process occur endlessly with the body/mind
that parallel the fusion processes that makeup a star's evolution. By applying a primordial mantra vibration to the body/mind field cosmic energy (light) is released just like a nuclear reaction. The body/mind awareness then perceives
the world as divine light, unified and non-analytical. Yet these processes occur to lesser degrees even without meditation. For example with peak experiences and spontaneous insights.
When the cosmic energy is radiated one may interpret the new sensations as joy, peace, love or bliss. The ancients must have known this when they related divine consciousness to light(enlighten).
Todd

"Take away the distance and God is there."

That was such a cool video by Deepak! I loved it and thank you Deepak!!!!!

I especially liked the last sentence that went something like this without having to go back and listen to the video again ... 'one reality, one being and that is probably what love is.'

Yes, I think that this must be what love really means....when we can see each other as ourselves and treat the other as ourself with dignity and respect and all the other good spiritual traits such as kindness, goodness, meekness, temperance, forgiveness, etc.

Therefore, I would think in order for us to do this and be loving to everyone, we would need to become all these good things or better yet, realize that we are this greatness of Oneness at our highest level, so that we can treat ourself better :-).

Because, I believe to love is to live and expand - it's life and/or the light; and its opposite is to destroy and contract or die.

Love, Char

Well, read all the responses to Deepak's video and found them interesting, as I pondered.

Like Richard, I have also experienced reading what appeared to be very wise text while sleeping and it is usually when I just must have an answer. However, I cannot remember it either and when I am dreaming, I am aware that I have the choice to wake up and write down the last sentence, which will be all that I will retain or stay asleep and hope that somewhere in my subconscious, I will remember it, so that I can use the info that way. So for me, I just need to trust a Faithful Source and go with the flow .... whatever that means. Sometimes it's just too much to figure out and when we do, there is always something else. So may be what Richard says about infinite/finite might have some bearing, i.e., "omniscient loves surprise and the omnipotent loves challenge but experiences unavailable to the infinite self “as is”." Nonetheless, it's an interesting and fresh concept.

Love, Char

BTW Richard - What I have come to realize is that I cannot magically do anything, but when something takes place out of the ordinary, it just happens. I think that this is probably a true intention, as it is effortlessly manifested, which is as simple as our breath. We don't say, 'now I must breath,' but we just breath. And the further I am away from what I personally call God, the less my intention works or manifest, such as where I am at right now in my life. It's either ego or non-person and my ego won this round! So I suppose I will go back in the ring and try again, even tho the ego would love for me to give up and give in. Except that Spirit is so very beautiful and ego is so ugly, as we don't really have much of an option. It's like choosing light over darkness or visa-versa, when we have experienced the qualities of both. The light is really better and who we are.

Love, Char

Sorry for all the many posts, as I am just catching up from a 3-day weekend.

Hey Char, I wonder have you ever awakened to write it down only to find you had not actually awakened but had dreamed that you had awakened and written it down?

I have a few times I once wrote a short story based on that back in 93.

Oooh Richard I can relate to that. I wrote my book, only to find the understanding of it much later LOL

Thanks Deepak for sharing!

During meditation I am in an Orgasmic stage, feeling very happy and very content.

Normally I am always in my meditative state which is broken by social engagements, my wife and sometimes by some corrupt individuals.

Your feeling of oneness is a real great feeling.

I know you and me are one and will always remain one.

My breath is your breath, my body is your body, my soul is your soul, my thoughts are your thoughts.

God bless.

Well...the only time I wake up in a dream over and over again is when it's scary and demons are trying to get me! Eventually, I do wake-up and at that point, I'm afraid to go to sleep again without the light on. These kind of dreams are so very real to me and it's almost as if I am in another dimension, as these types of dreams seem to cross-over between the different worlds that we are pretty much protected from. And some how, these kind of dreams can appear to be physical to, i.e., survive our material world. So if I call out the name of Jesus Christ, I am released (so-to-speak) without anything uncomfortable happening. Then when I do finally wake up, I start praying and if needed, I read the Bible. Obviously, I don't like these types of dreams, as they are my nightmares.

Love, Char