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A New World or No World? (Part 1)

Deepak Chopra - June 12, 2008

Societies never act in totally predictable ways. In response to the global economic crisis of the mid-Seventies, induced by OPEC tripling the price of oil overnight, every country was put to the test. Energy policies proposed by Jimmy Carter, which rested on the notion of consumer restraint (e.g., turning the thermostat down in the White House to 68 degrees), were unpopular, demoralizing, and ultimately a flop. But England, France, the Soviet Union and others adopted widely differing energy policies that were equally a flop.

Today OPEC is enormously stronger than thirty years ago. Thomas Friedman of the NY Times calls the Arab oil producers "petro-dictators." With unrestrained speculation driving oil prices skyward, Saudi Arabia alone possesses more wealth in its oil reserves than all the stock and bond markets in the world combined -- and that was calculated with oil at $100 a barrel. In addition, by silent collusion the Saudis and the American oil companies started keeping more of their income as pure profits while no longer planning adequately for new oil fields. As a result, even if OPEC decided to undertake new drilling today, the first drop wouldn't enter the pipeline for a decade.

This looks like the making of a global crisis lasting for the foreseeable future, intensified by the sudden and dramatic demand for oil from India and China. No extra production and ever- growing demand means that $200 a barrel oil will arrive soon and stay there (absent unexpected changes like switching to ethanol on a massive scale, as Brazil has done, or radically new car engines that get 60 miles to the gallon). The shock to the American economy has been swift and highly threatening, but the psychological impact is equally severe. Americans are used to being rich and stable. We accept without question that this country deserves to bestride the world as the British did before 1900.

So far, during the disastrous years of the Bush administration, no energy policy has existed, and all the toughest problems were kicked down the road willy-nilly. Denial has lulled the public into thinking that global warming, overpopulation, pandemic disease, and the end of cheap energy would somehow solve themselves. This attitude, based on the right-wing worship of the free market, made the country's recent economic woes more shocking psychologically. Now the consensus among global analysts is as follows:

1. Severe swings in the economic outlook for America cannot be avoided.
2. Continuing to do nothing would be disastrous on all fronts. Yet no general agreement on what to do has been found.
Divisive politics still trumps intelligent reform.
3. Arab oil producers are absorbing undreamt of profits so fast that its effects cannot be dealt with either by them or their customers.
4. The political will barely exists to cope with emerging problems, much less the radical policies that would solve
those problems.
5. Escalating oil prices threaten the world with food shortages and widespread outrage against OPEC, creating the
conditions for global rebellion and, at worst, an attack on the Middle East to seize their oil fields.
6. Worldwide inflation has begun and could spiral out of control.
7. As China and India rise, the U.S. will slowly but surely become less relevant as a dominant economy. We are already highly dependent on foreign lenders and hugely in debt.

What, then, the future?

We find ourselves at a fork in the road. One way leads to a new world, one being born with frightening convulsions but eventually benefiting every economy. This is the way of globalization. The other way is the road to protectionism, tariffs, anti-immigration, and the shutdown of alliances. This is the way of nationalism. One way is optimistic and evolutionary, the other is pessimistic and reactionary. One way looks outward to the world at large, the other looks outward and puts national security ahead of every other interest. To date, the general U.S. response has tended toward the latter. Nationalism, including toxic xenophobia, is the province of the right wing, which blocks all things progressive and stigmatizes anyone who opposes them.

Until two or three years ago, hesitating at the crossroads was excusable. Suddenly the dam broke with the collapse of the U.S. housing market and the irrational rise in oil speculation. Decisions must be made in a matter of months, not years (the only historical parallel is the first hundred days of the New Deal in 1933 and the immediate postwar era when Stalin invaded Eastern Europe). Therefore, one needs to look carefully at the forces that will drive us to choose one road or the other. In particular, how can we gain enough confidence, will, and optimism to create a new world instead of collapsing into no world that we would ever recognize today?

(To be cont.)

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Posted by Deepak Chopra at June 12, 2008 04:27 PM

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To be destroyed by their own greed, is what is happening now. Guess what when it all collapses it’s like a great equalizer. All the billionaires become just like everyone else, when the hoards come to take their material possessions there will be nobody to help them, and I am not saying it is their fault, it is mostly those that are trying to get rich by non-holistic means, and most fault lies with the collective ignorance of the general population. I sit here with the solutions to all that we see, yet not a single one has approached me looking to at least talk about it and support me.

I have a system that (works) that will track a tomato from field to plate and that could instantly notify one’s cell phone and email of a recall. There is this Anolyte water solution that uses sunlight, water and salt and destroys pathogens the same way your body does and leaves no residue and is not toxic.

There is a construction method I am trying to get moving a house can be erected in 3 days not 3 months and it is flood and wind proof and will have a warranty of 1,000 years.

Had one billionaire on the planet moved to help me two years ago it would be a different situation today. If we had planted and stored Amaranth when I said so there would not be food riots.

IT IS THE EGO BARRIER I suppose.

That being said it is becoming clear that all of those that are beholden to the current system of things are meant to parish and I suppose, as movie like as it sounds, it might mean I will be just taking a small number of the meek with me if something comes along to facilitate me to do so.

The truth is my system creates transparency, and the other solution competes with chemical companies, in other words the optimum approach is not the most profitable approach for industry so the ignorant suffer, of course the government and our representatives are supposed to be looking out for the people, instead they have sold out to industry, and will now reap the consequences.

I suppose there is one last hope and that is if the citizens of the planet will respond.

Let us not forget that Russia's natural resources, they have huge oil as well, were seemingly taken off the market by the implementation of fictional communism by the west, they called it the Bolshevik Revolution. They also did not have a central bank which is crucial to the game. The one coming to an end.

dear Richard,
you are so amazing!

Deepak,
waiting for
(to be cont.)

~ Kate

Deepak, I had your book The Path to Love I read a few pages of it, at the time those few pages gave me insight into how to deal with something and someone very difficult to deal with. Part of my own evolution I suppose. It would be great if everyone hopped onto the path.

It sat on my shelf for a long time, so the last time Tammy was here I gave it to her. She loves it. Today she called and read a paragraph about ascension. I thought it very fitting do you remember writing that? I always forget what I write. Maybe it’s not me doing the writing sometimes from one perspective, and yet it is always me writing from that other perspective.

I wonder if there isn't something to the idea of just a few returning to the clouds...Perhaps while the planet does it's rejuvenation thing. I wonder who will be picking up the people, something From the Air?

It doesn't seem like at this rate everyone is going to break through the ego barrier collectively, of course the incentives like I wrote about here two years are happening, the incentive to seek the truth within.

It all certainly qualifies as an epic story I wonder how it turns out. If the dreams of my youth were prophetic then I guess I already know.

I do remember one dream this Tornado was moving down then center of a town street, I was in the doorway and the bottom end of it twisted and touched me gently on the heel. In all my tornado, storm, and flood dreams I was always unscathed, my house unharmed.

True Story, when I was little we moved from Washington DC to Cincinnati, two weeks after we moved a Tornado came through, my father had to go back to DC and he visited what was left of our house, and only the bathroom was left standing. I suppose everything happens perfectly.

Those that can should move to the safe haven places, where I am for example. But I suppose those burdened by their MATERIAL POSSESSIONS will not be able to move, and will perish with them, thinking about it the higher consciousness youth have very little material possession, how fitting! They will be able to move to safe heaven I mean haven.

Kate, thank you for your support, I can only take credit for the errors and mistakes I make, and allowing all the rest, for all that I do right something much greater than my finite self gets the credit.

It isn't going to be the end of the world. And it isn't going to be a utopia of enlightenment either.

We aren't going to get one or the other. We are going to get both simultaneously.

As population expands, some will reach for the utopia, some will reach for economic well being, the tinkerers will continue to invent new ways to do things, the entrepreneurs will struggle against the entrenched industries seeking to monopolize the marketplace, and we will lurch onwards in the sort of half-aware, half-unconscious ambling that has been human evolution.

We will invent amazing new technologies to help us live cleaner, more efficient lives and feed and educate our people, and we will struggle against old thinking habits which resist their implementation.

The desire to show a profit in the quarterly report will square off against the obvious need for long term planning.

Those who have seen fantastic wealth from the last centuries' fossil fuels will stop at nothing, including all-out wars, political assassinations, and intensive indoctrination and propaganda blitzes launched against a public whose natural inclination to grow and change with the planetary changes represents the greatest threat to their economic empires.

There will be some victories and some defeats. We may come perilously close to mass destruction, only to lurch to the awake state just long enough to avoid a complete wipeout, and as soon as the crises begins to subside, the dullness of sleepy dreams will re-assert itself until the next planetary zen stick whacks us out of our dreamy trance.

It's too predictable.

Do you want to see the future? It's right here now. There are, in particular, two nations that give us a glimpse of our future: India and China.

And what do you see there? You see the best and the brightest, armies of scientists, engineers, doctors, and do-gooders fanning across the planet, well aware of the work that has to be accomplished and dedicating their lives to helping humanity achieve it.

And, in the same place you see abject poverty, failure of governments and the free market alike to truly address the needs of the people.

Info Tech one block away from "no-tech". Conferences of the enlightened working for planetary change and right outside the conference door food riots, religious feuds, and the constant craving of those who will never have the amenities the conference attendees take for granted.

We are going to get both. A lot of both as the population creeps up towards the magical number of 10 billion. It is going to be very interesting, and probably just ramping up real good when I pass away in the mid 21st century.

"..intensified by the sudden and dramatic demand for oil from India and China."

Most of what we read on the subject says the same thing. However, in the other thread "Sustained & Rising Oil Price: Main Reason?" the witer makes a very valid point, that these two countries have been steadily increasing their oil consumption for quite a while since the 1990s at least. This is neither sudden or dramatic enough to justify the surge in prices over the last 18 months.

It would be interesting to know exact consumption levels and their growth over the last three to five years. Unfortunately I have been unable to get any meaningful figures and most of the data pertains to the period prior to 2005, which is hardly current.


The more I read on this subject the more I get the feeling that we are still to come to grips with the basic cause of increasing oil prices. If the basic diagnosis is wrong, the cure is bound to fail and we will probably be no closer to a meaninful understanding of the problem of rising prices.

I think that the whole world, and the U.S. in particular, has to take a deep breath and center itself. We need to step out of the storm long enough to notice that who we are is outside of the story, and that who we are is actually creating this story.

So when we have centered ourselves in the place of quietness from where creation happens, we can then ask ourselves, calmly: what do I want to do?

The answer of life to this question is "live". Life wants to continue to live through all life forms, including the human form. It can only do this if we make the leap and recognize ourselves as one with all life.

When we have centered ourselves and understood who we are and what we want, the details of what every person needs to do, specifically, will be clear. We will simply know what to do, it will be the logical thing to do, and it will be harmonized with everyone else's actions.

Find the center. Stay there. Act from there. Enjoy. That's all.

Dear Richard,

Something I've discovered is that the flow doesn't flow as long as "I" holds on to the separation. For quite a while, I've been riding with the light, we all do. But at some point, you can't keep the world parted into "light" and "darkness", "meek" and "greedy", "awakened" and "ignorant" or anything else. Illusion has to go, all of it. One life, one spirit, one creation, one creator, all in one. This is not about how many bodies can be "saved"... bodies are just an expression. This is about realizing that there is no battle to begin with. Can you build the houses and plant the amaranth from there? Then the flow will flow.

Hot air ascends.....i'm in a whirl, by grace i land upon my feet, each moment, turn a do.

Hi Aurora,

Yes, I know where you are coming from. So I made some adjustments to my thinking. I think I am going to tune out and focus on positive local creation. I need to focus on me not the world, it's all an illusion anyway, of course the experience is real.

I have one last observation or insight I think I will post.

I had written almost two years ago how one degree makes a difference because this is all it takes to change the state of water from a solid to fluid. It seemed this wasn’t being taken into account and is why “experts” kept saying this is happening faster then we expected.

So I add to the One Degree makes a difference a new factor and that is Evaporation. One degree results in a major suspended volume increase. The more water that goes up, the more water comes down. When these values are plugged into the model we see 2 – 3 mile wide rivers coming. Not for certain, just a more probable possibility if the trend continues. Deterministic chaos is unpredictable with any precision over a long term.

All this combined with the increased energy influx and retention which increases turbulence (increased temperature = increased phonons). The increased turbulence spawns more vortices (tornados, micro vortices), so there is an increase in number and intensity.

It is not really that complicated at a high level just common sense logic and doesn’t require millions to be spent on research. Yet all the factors combined create a hard to predict and understand system.

All these factors mean major changes in weather patterns and more extremes excessive moisture and a lack in other places. The only solution is to be mobile and adaptable and move with the climate change like the animals as was pointed almost two years ago are already doing.

It seems that the previous projection that there would be increased localization is actually happening.

Local is Green.
(That is a meme I had launched and it is spreading)

Flooding is good it replenishes the surface soil naturally. Permanent structures and dams are not natural.

Fires stroms are also a natural cycle and are good.

The Human Civilization with everything from marriage to infrastructure to petroleum based fertilizer and factory farming is in conflict with nature.

One can see who is losing in this conflict.

"Decisions must be made in a matter of months" ~Deepak

Exactly.

Members of congress should quickly draw up a bill to slap a 70% tax on short term capital gains, those that try to profit simply from market fluctuations rather than dividends. In other words taxing the Gamblers (Speculators) that are disrupting the system (read DK's thread).

They should call on the farmers to plant Amaranth right now, it is JUNE wait and we are screwed, maybe that is how it supposed to create the incentive to break the ego barrier.

Amaranth is worth 1,000 per acre; just about every other crop only produces on average $120.00 per acre if I remember my numbers correctly. It is the most complete nutritional crop on the planet, the two missing essential amino acids and it even has vitamin C. It grows in poor soil and drought conditions, and it is very pretty.

We can implement the universal health protocols and cut health insurance premiums in half right now and reduce taxes some 25%.

You know what Monsanto wants to do? They want to create a monopoly product with a drought resistant gene inserted. Guess what we have Amaranth, it already works, better than anything they could invent, we do not need that to invent anything. This is exactly what the President of the United States should be saying right not if they were to have a clue and did not have a circle of influence deceiving them.

Then there is another group trying to invent a better fertilizer yet we already have it rock dust and sea weed.

This is how profit driven perspectives fail to achieve the optimum, with the desire to create monopoly.

Richard,

you have such an abundance of fascinating ideas and solutions and as far as I understand, you feel that you are not being heard. You feel that the people who could help you with financing these projects don't do it, that people in power don't listen, and you are frustrated by it.

If I were you, I would certainly focus on myself, meaning on finding the cause of the lack of flow in my own thinking. The person in power who is not listening is you, not anyone else. I would particularly look at the way my thinking keeps away the very people I want help from by judging them and keeping them separate from what I call "me". I would look at my judgments of money in general (you can't want money for your projects and at the same time send out negative vibes about wealthy people and "too much" money). I would really look at my motivations behind my projects and see if there is any ago there (as long as there is frustration, there is attachment, thus ego is there somewhere...). And if all of this is done, I would relax knowing that if my projects are truly from spirit, spirit will bring what is needed to manifest them, at the right time.

I think this is what "globalization" means at the level of every one of us. We need to include all the people and things we have judged, include them into our own creation, into our own acceptance and love. Can the uninfluential, poor man/nation be one with the powerful, rich man/nation? Can the rich man/nation be one with the poor man/nation? Only in spirit. That is where we are all equal, and that's where we need to go without delay. Do we still judge and fear each other? Can we see all these "people" as manifestations of the same oneness? And can we perceive the human civilization as a manifestation of nature as innocent and natural as any other, on its way to evolve into something wiser? Why judge ourselves when we are nature itself?

If we have arrived at that place of ego-lessness, then all the solutions will have Godspeed. That's what I wish us all :)

Dear Dr. Chopra,

This portrayal of your presumed intention of those desiring a New World is quite distressing to me. Those who work for a new world are not concerned about benefiting every world economy. They (large corporations) are looking for cheap labor forces and for their material gain only. There is no concern about maintaining a proper economy for our own country.

I disagree strongly with your portrayal of concern for national security as an evil. Nationalism is not pessimistic and reactionary. It is not toxic nor is it xenophobic. You have described the right wing as against anything that is progressive. This is definitely an incorrect representation of the right wing. Our country was founded by those who you would categorize as right-wingers. Our founding fathers believed in high ideals and the God given rights of all men to be free and to pursue happiness. However, they believed that as a God fearing nation, we should protect our own country and not become involved with the governments of other nations. Our founding fathers believed in defending the freedoms of speech and action of our own citizens first and foremost and they believed that we should not allow ourselves to become subject to the influence and interests of other nations.

Our freedoms of speech and action are now being threatened by the same Liberals that you are supporting. These Liberals hold radical ideologies and care nothing about destroying our sovereignty. The movement by Liberals towards supporting a global economy cares nothing about abandoning the work force in our country. Their main concern is profit-making for large corporations by utilizing cheap labor which is to be found in other countries. They also want a global armed force to enforce laws made to favor the interests of the elite class and not the citizenry at large.

There is also a movement by Liberals towards legitimizing homosexuality. Homosexuality is aimed towards destroying the moral fiber of our society. Every culture in the past that has sanctioned homosexuality has fallen. You cannot challenge and ignore the laws of God and realize a positive outcome.

There is nothing wrong with protecting our national security (Nationalism). This country has always been a shining example of freedom for all mankind since its founding and it should be kept strong and undefiled by those who do not value or uphold its Constitution. It has been unique in all the world.

The destruction of our sovereignty as a nation is not progressive and xenophobia has never been the province of the right wing.

A very concerned citizen,

"Betsy" S.

"You cannot challenge and ignore the laws of God and realize a positive outcome."

How about "thou shall not kill" ?

Dear Betsy,

Your post is very well stated. Thanks for such an interesting and concise article. I am waiting til Deepak finishes his argument as he is saying that it is to be continued. For the time being, it is a bit too simplistic to say that it is either one or the other, positive or negative, expansive or isolationist. I am a bit concerned that globilization improperly defined means that all national interests are obliterated for the purpose of a single world concept. There is no doubt that we are headed for a one world goal, as if true Christians achieve their goal of teaching the gospel, the world will be finally one under God.

Until that day, however, which is a long time in coming, as business corporations and national interests continue to exploit the lot of mankind to achieve their goals of profit, we will all argue endlessly about whether an individual has any real meaning in today's world. Which consumer can truly protest the rise of gasoline prices so that something is finally done about it?

If the emergence of India and China does add to the problem of pollution in the atmosphere, which is most likely as China does not seem to institute any kind of regulations regarding simply the pollution of their rivers, then the planet is in deep trouble. International laws and world-wide checks must be instituted so that globilization is without a doubt the wave of the future.

Many fear that the summer Olympics may be harmful for athletes who will have to breathe in polluted air. Ever since we entered space, each and every nation has an obligation to attempt to save the planet.

To save ourselves, we must save each other from one another. International law is the avenue of the future.

Dear Betsy,

I have read your post with a lot of interest. You see, I am sitting here in Europe trying to understand what is going on in another human being on this same planet - I mean you. You call yourself "a very concerned citizen" and you do seem to be concerned.

I suppose that you share the beliefs of your country's founding fathers, that you believe "in high ideals and the God given rights of all men to be free and to pursue happiness."

That is wonderful, and it makes me feel that you respect my right to be free and to pursue happiness in all ways I can think of. I suppose that "all men" means all men and women on this planet, unless God excluded women and people outside of the USA from these rights for some reason. And I suppose "pursue happiness" means even financial and sexual happiness in any way that suits my personal inclination, as long as I respect everyone else's integrity and freedom of choice. Well, neighbour... this is a truly expansive belief you've got and I feel like celebrating your and my freedom! I'm just about to suggest some good ways in which we could cooperate so that more people could be this free, fulfilled and expansive, some climate balancing cooperation, some action to eradicate poverty and empower women ...

when you come with this thought:
"However, they believed that as a God fearing nation, we should protect our own country and not become involved with the governments of other nations."

Okay, do you know how this sentence feels? Like you just slammed the door in my nose. You are still looking at me through a small window, but you are holding a gun in my face as if I was terribly dangerous. Huh? I'm standing here outside of your closed door wondering if you are God fearing or fearing of me, your neighbour, and if it maybe is the same thing. You are coming from fear all right, and when you say that nationalism is not xenophobic I wonder what you mean. Are you God fearing or people fearing, and do you really need to be fearing at all?

Do you think I will take away your freedom of speech? But how can we even speak through that closed door? What kind of freedom of speech is it to be locked inside your nation and speak with yourself?

Do you think I will take away your job? Your jobs are dissappearing not because of something I do, but because the world is changing and you are a part of it no matter if you would prefer to have a separate planet. There will always be jobs, but they will always change character and go where they are needed. You can blame the changes on me and hate/fear me or you can look around for what you can do instead that is useful for our planet.

I am not your problem. I am your neighbour. I am your global family. I am actually the same as you. If you open up that door and come visit you will see that we are the same, and you will notice that freedom becomes more, not less, when you open up.

You only have a few months to decide, Betsy. Is the world's invitation to opennes and friendship dangerous, are you going to retreat and keep your door firmly shut or are you going to step out of your fortress and come join the rest of the emerging new world? There is A LOT to be done if we want life to continue on this planet. We have no time to fear each other anymore, fear is what has brought us to this point and it's time to leave it behind.

So yes, this is a fork in the road.

Betsy (#14),
Our founding fathers were our founding fathers because they knew how to embrace change. The world's evolved a lot, since the 1700s, and I'm sure ---if they found themselves in the middle of today's American drama--- they'd recognize a need for finding creative ways to meet new challenges.
As to your comments about homosexuality challenging and ignoring the laws of God, exactly what God and what laws are you referring to?
Seriously.
Are we not all God's children, created and loved by the Source of all goodness and understanding?

Aurora
Your comments in this thread are the kind of dialog I have been waiting to see. I believe the internet will someday facilitate constructive dialog that moves forward instead of circles.
We have always been a global society.

America and Americans have been arrogant for too long. I think Mr. Bush has done us a tremendous favor. He has made us aware that we are no better than any other nation and has made the playing field more level.

I still say what a statement it would be for the US to shoot ALL it's weapons of mass destruction into space for a grand fireworks show.

Oh and I hope gas reaches $10.00 a gallon.

Yeah right, wishful thinking from a patient waiter and Pook

derek

ps. Has anyone here heard of Clay Jenkins?
If you have never heard him speak as Thomas Jefferson, yo.

http://www.jeffersonhour.org/

He speaks as Jefferson but in our times. It's a perspective of our day through the eyes of one of our for fathers. Priceless.

Not as a channeler or medium. But from his research.
You can click 'listen to the shows' and listen to him for free.

#620 is very relevant to this thread.

Yo, very very relevant.

Aurora, thanks for your comments.

"you feel that you are not being heard. You feel that the people who could help you with financing these projects don't do it, that people in power don't listen, and you are frustrated by it." ~Aurora

Most of those are not actually feelings but projections. When we say “I feel like” and then go on to tell a story it is an indicator of a possible fiction.

Feelings are joy, sad, happy.. "Frustration" qualifies as a feeling.

My communications and awareness campaigns have been doing quite well and are having the desired effects all over the place and every where I look. The speeds at which the memes are penetrating the collective mind are remarkable.

I do get frustrated when I am attached to outcome and the response to the awareness is not what I would like it to be and often there is resistance. Things always seem to take longer than one would hope.

As far as those that could, not financing the projects, it simply means they are not of the right consciousness and might actually contaminate the efforts. The right people will come or I will figure out a way. There are still formal tasks that I have not completed I was hoping it to be easier.

The other aspect to this is not to have the operations beholden to anyone such that it would allow the ego to influence or hamper the production so perhaps I need a pure source of funds and that may actually be the people themselves so we may need to facilitate this approach rather than looking .

As for the “people in power” not listening, this is simply an indicator that they need to be removed or displaced from their power positions.

That which makes the campaigns most effective, working below the radar, being somewhat anonymous and therefore not having an acknowledged single point of authority or Source is the secret to success.

Those that might can see no single entity to be attacked, defended against or disabled. The consequences of this are that it can take longer to achieve desired results then it would take having a central authority or recognized source. However the weaknesses of a central authority or recognized source do not exist for an anonymous authority or agent. The anonymous free agent is not subject to coercion for example.

The Source uses agents, yet there is no formal relationship or agreement with the agents.

So Aurora you did lead me to the realization that certain financiers would corrupt the operations. For example I noticed once that a sugar baron was part of the Alliance for a New Humanity, many corporate interests participate in such endeavors “humanitarian efforts” so that they may influence them and protect their interests. Many so called liberal organizations are infiltrated and corrupted by those that are really their opposition. Just like the oil companies used environmentalists to disable nuclear power.

We also find that many spiritual communicators and movements are used to keep people passive and humble while being violated.

How is that for a storyline?

Quite often activists, minds clouded by emotion unknowingly act as agents for the very "evil" they think they are working to overcome.

Richard
It doesn't matter what story you tell, your bright energy is at the core of your every move. Thank you for your spark.

derek

Richard,
I had to applaud when I read "how is that for a storyline". That is really really wise, to look at one's stories and choose instead of letting them rule you. I see you choose to continue the "us and them" scenario, you seem to like action movies with villains and heroes, Richard :D:) Agents for Source and agents for evil... how exciting! Nothing wrong with it, it's very entertaining as long as you know it's your own story and not reality. And I completely agree about those being projections and not true feelings. Nice to converse with you, lots of things emerge from conversation.

Derek,

don't think that arrogance is only American. Wherever there's a fence, you'll see two people throwing arrogant words/jokes/glances/missiles at each other :P If we dare take down the fences, we will stand there naked in front of each other and then we might start to finally laugh together. We do have the same attributes...

Dear Aurora,

I would like to address your comments to Richard in your Posting No. 13.

"Can we see all these "people" as manifestations of the same Oneness? And can we perceive the human civilization as a manifestation of nature as innocent and natural as any other, on its way to evolve into something wiser? Why judge ourselves when we are nature itself? If we have arrived at that place of ego-lessness, then all the solutions will have Godspeed. That's what I wish us all."

I wholeheartedly agree with your hypotheses. Unfortunately, I believe that you are assuming that these realizations and goals are held by those governmental leaders who are advocating a One World Government. Behind the scenes of this movement are elitist factions who are controlling the actions of the governmental heads. These elitist factions care nothing about supporting the brotherhood of man or of allowing a natural evolution towards a higher consciousness. They are only concerned about fulfilling their own agendas aimed towards materialistic gain and the control of humankind.

The groups I refer to are already controlling much of the activity within our national governments. Naturally, you will never hear about these groups or their activities through the established major news media.

I wish our political leaders were guided by high ideals and the goal of establishing a New World for the Brotherhood of Man. I wish they truly honored the rights of all mankind and recognized that we are all truly One. But, I am afraid that the Ego still remains supreme as their guiding force.

Please look up: The Bilderberg Club: a Secret Society.

Very Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

Ok, we can re-enforce the cicle of fear, "US masses X world elites" or we can detach
ourselves from it. In the first case fear still prevails. So I prefer the second.

Dear Betsy, good morning :)

Thank you for speaking with me, thank you for trusting me with your fears and concerns. I understand you, I truly do. With a short Google search, I could probably give you a hundred more links to why the world is in trouble and why people and governments can't be trusted. So I don't deny that. That is one reality.

But Betsy, I am not concerned, and I'll try to explain why. I have looked deeply at life and have seen that it is all one. That means that these secret societies and me are one. The manipulating/manipulated governments and me are one. All the evil in the world and me are one. And all the goodness in the world and me are also one. I can find all this inside myself and so can you, Betsy. And when you have found it, then nothing is outside of you, all is in you... and it can't be threatening anymore. There is no one "out there" controlling you, or me, or the masses. We are creating it all. The source is in ourselves and as soon as you see how you create "evil" ... it looses absolutely all power. All the stories of good and evil, of contrast, of dangers... become simply entertaining when you can see with your two eyes that all is one and the same spirit, and that is what you are.

So dear friend, try to detach your attention from the object of fear, from secret groups and such, and see if you can trace the fear back to its source. Then you will see that a "brotherhood of man" can only happen inside, and it means that good and evil melt together into their source in the depth of you. When you have arrived at a brotherhood of man you will be both the controlled and the controller, the good and the bad, the fearful and the feared... and so the drama will lose its plausibility. That is how you can heal the world, and that is what my invitation is about.

All the best to you dearest Betsy, and know that you have my admiration for your will to open up.

To kiss or not to kiss, dear Aurora. That is our question ;)

Well, frankly, I do not want to find out that we are all just one as Aurora C has indicated. I no more feel that I am one with people such as Oliver Stone, people such as George Bush, people such as any of the candidates for election anywhere in the world. I just do believe that that is so much nonsense and gets us nowhere.

e pluribus unum means many in one, and the earth is just that, not one ocean floor, not one mountain range, not one desert floor, but a planet of a variety of altitudes, compositions, and inhabitants. What always fascinates me most is that some supposed intelligent source could manage to populate the planet with such extremes as opposites, elephants to gnats, ants, and other extreme variations in size, appearance, and composition. Slimy lizards, tough skinned hippotamus, soft fluffy lambs wool, etc.etc.etc. the only way any of this is one is that it is all a part of one planet, and that is the only oneness possible.

So for this idea that we are all one big ego merging with one another is a huge fallacy. I just do not believe it.

Ed, to kiss or not kiss the many frogs... every time they turn into a prince I'm still surprised and delighted :D

Hi Arizona Sunset,
let me just enjoy your name for a while :)

Okay, I can hear you. You don't even WANT to be one with George Bush :) I understand you... I guess that is why Deepak suggests that people choose. As long as oneness is just an idea I applaud you for not buying into it. I mean- why should you believe this nut saying that you and the lambs and Mr Bush are one? Please don't! I mean, it's healthy that you don't :)

But then there is this simple exercise you can do if you want to understand a little where I'm coming from. Take Mr. Bush for example and write down five things about him that really disturb you. Such that makes you refuse to ever be one with him ;) Say- ignorant, stupid, stubborn, greedy... whatever makes you lose your temper.
Then take this list and go to the most honest person you know and who knows you well, and ask them if they have ever seen you display any of it, in one form or another. If they say yes, see how honest you can get with yourself. If they say no, reconsider how honest these friends really are.

Okay, so even if you have both good and bad qualities, you can choose to be good. Do it. Choose that. Choose as much light as you can, expansion, understanding, inclusion, cooperation, love. Choose that at every step and it will lead you to an experience - not an idea- of oneness. Don't believe this crazy oneness idea, but don't exclude it from what's possible either.

#33 You are not the 'sleeping beauty' by any chance, Aurora?
Beware of Simon the Geordie. He may well turn you into a frog!
Is George Bush any relation to Uncle Tree? This One thinks they are both a Heavenly plant and even the frogs shall lodge in their branches.
I kiss upon you, I do believe :D

I'm not sure if I'm a frog dreaming of being a prince or a prince dreaming of being a frog... or if the Beauty is dreaming us all. Shhh... just in case ;)

Thanks, Aurora C, as I enjoyed your comment. There is no doubt that we all share things in common, some more so than others. As those who are bad spellers do not ever understand those who seem to be able to remember words so well that they spell them easily. There is no doubt that every drop of rain that falls into the ocean is one and the same as all the other raindrops that also fall into that same ocean, and likewise, there is no doubt in my mind that humanity individually is also humanity in the crowd, the masses, and that oneness in the sense of flesh, genes, chromosomes, blood types, etc. all become a shared and known common denominator. In that sense, from a purely materialistic sense, yes, all of mankind can be reduced down to a single component, ending up all being hot air most likely.

But individuality in the mental processes which determine which will be artists, scientists, musicians, teachers, farmers, medicine men, and other differentiated talents and abilities truly distinguish that great mass of walking flesh from one another.

While I concur that all are one in the flesh,heart, circulatory system, nervous system, and skeletal system, it is in the expression of our inner personality that we find the differences amongst us all.

In the great pool of humanity, some intelligence decided to separate us from one another through racial distinctions, and as a result, family and familiarity became a known and secure foundation upon which society grew and developed. Whether that intelligent source had a purpose for making people different from one another in race as that same intelligence made dogs differ from one another in breed, size, and temperament. Again, from one form comes many in a plurality. Are there different kinds of giraffes? I don't think so, so why are dogs and cats so different as well as horses and cows? But hippopotamus and elephants all seem to be of only one kind. Interesting, isn't it? People all are one and the same yet are divided into a different kind of breeding for family distinctions. What kind of intelligence does this without explaining why?

Well, I admit that we all share anger, joy, sorrow, and ecstasy but never do any of us do it together unless it is a national disaster or accomplishment. I suppose when man first stepped on the moon, the world as a whole held its breath.

That thread that holds us together which is either one of two things, love or intelligence, is the only way we loose beings can ever become as ONE.

Arizona Sunset,
I greatly enjoyed your interesting and humorous post too, thank you!

I loved the many questions you have, and how you ask why the larger intelligence decided to differentiate this “great mass of walking flesh from one another”. “What kind of intelligence does this without explaining why?” you ask.

Well, the interesting thing is that you can actually ask this intelligence directly. This intelligence must be one and the same with your own intelligence, this one source must be one and the same with you, so... you can always ask yourself why you keep arranging words in different sentences or why you create different meals from the same ingredients, or why you sing different songs made of the same sounds. When I go deep enough, I notice the first impulse of creation as a kind of joyful vibration of playfulness arising from the not-yet-anythingness.

And when I go that deep, I notice that not only shape, size and colour arise from there, but even the differences in inclination, talent, way of expression. Also the differences in thought patterns and system of values. That means that everything we identify with and fight over in this world is on a more surface level than our deepest identity as the source. And this then means that if we go deep enough inside our own self, we will see that we are that one deep source that keeps flowing out, creating the world of differences.

So this is how we reach oneness by looking inside. But as most of us aren’t used to looking inside, let’s try looking outside and see if there is any oneness in sight...

Families, as you say, have been the known and secure foundation of society. We have loved and protected ourselves and our families, right? We have been one-- in love, dedication to well being and truth, protection, direction of evolution, creative interests and goal—one with our family, or at least we’ve tried to be.
But as we’ve kept looking out, we have become one with our clan, our tribe, or our nation. We have drawn lines on maps and have done our best for our national family, sometimes we have been truly heroic in protecting our national interests. Later, as transportation and communication means have improved, we have started to identify ourselves with our continent or a union of nations.

Now our reality is approaching the point where we realize that the whole planet is our family and that our evolutionary direction is the same. Our love and commitment is now challenged to embrace even such that we haven’t seen as family before- people of other gender, nations or races, of other creeds or social/economical background. Not only this, life is challenging us to expand our identity and love to include the entire ecosystem. If we cannot love our larger self, we will keep hurting and destroying it, and we all know how great the destruction already is. If we learn to open our hearts and minds to a larger planetary identity, we will stop hurting our family and heal it with an outpouring of authentic love and care.

The next step will be to look out again and see if we can still send our toxic waste “out into space”, and consider the cosmos “something outside and different from us”. As our identity expands in this way, we will one day arrive at the realization of our oneness with infinity.

So there is oneness if we look inside and oneness if we look outside. But we have to look deeply and attentively. And we have to do it now. Reality is asking us to wake up from the idea of separation.

I think there is some confusion in the minds of the players.

In Infinite Play the never ending story, the characters are not "One". They are different, it is the actor, more correctly the "Being" both noun and verb behind the characters that is the same. The actors / characters all share the same global story, play ground, or set.

Some actors get really caught up in the play and become their characters thinking that this is their true self. They forget that they were pretending in make believe, and take it all seriously, which can add a certain dramatic quality to the story and perpetual conflict, villains and heroes. At it’s very basic level, being is the witness or in infinite play we might call it the audience. As we build on this basic foundation we create a production that allows the audience to not just witness but to also participate in the story. Some beings favor the audience perspective sitting at home watching the world’s story unfold on TV, happy with their story being rather mundane in the grand scheme, yet essential to it, and we find it impossible to have a comprehensive production without them. Then we have the bit parts and the leading roles which are a little more demanding, require greater risk taking, and are more strenuous in their own right, which necessitates greater rewards.

As for the actors we have the infinite actor and the finite actor. The infinite actor still behind all while differentiating itself slightly to allow for a diversity of various “essences of being” to bring color to the story rather than having everything black and white.

This grand production is not without depth, there are 1st and 2nd assistant directors and even the ability for participants to create and direct their own little productions. The great author being generous with the capability to create allows the participants to author their own stories which add even more variety and flavor combining to support the great story.

The director is the all pervading intelligence and the producer is the universe with all it’s math and function that creates the set, allowing for the actors to live their stories, not to mention providing seating and accommodations for an audience for what purpose would a performer have without an audience?

~infiniteplay.org

Dear Rafael,

I would like to address your commentary in Posting No. 29 regarding "Fear".

This commentary reminds me of the story about the Ostrich that stuck his head in a hole in the ground. He thought he was safe because he could not see any approaching danger. Just like the Ostrich - when we choose to ignore the dangerous elements in our environment we eliminate our ability to defend ourselves against them.

Fear can be a positive emotion when it motivates us to protect ourselves and to challenge an enemy. However, first we have to be alert enough to recognize the existing threat in order to avoid the danger.

When we allow ourselves to be hypnotized into accepting the misinformation being fed to us by the malefic forces in operation, then we will be blindly controlled by them.

INFORMATION CONTROLS AND PATTERNS ENERGY.

This is why we must learn to distinguish the truth from falsehood which is spread through the various sources of information we are receiving.
There are elements dedicated to the pursuit of political and economic power control on a worldwide basis. These forces have no respect for the vast majority of mankind; they identify only with the material plane of existence and have no awareness of higher planes of consciousness. These same elements are experts at information control and that is why it is so important for us to be discerning in our acceptance of what we are being told.

Remember - INFORMATION CONTROLS AND PATTERNS ENERGY.

We must realize that we are meant to grow into a recognition of our Unity in the Universal Consciousness. We must not allow ourselves to be diverted from this pursuit by the forces which do not wish for this to happen.

Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

Thank you for your thoughtful post. I however, feel safe because I know that by not harming, there´s no way I can be harmed. It´s natural law action and reaction, not action not reaction! Threaten/being threatened, harming/being harmed,
offending being offended. Not any of those, not any of those!!

The US military has grown to size that scares many people, and as reaction it gets scared from those it scares. I know, and you know that there´s nothing to be scared about. But nature doesn´t
care about us, or about what we know. It simply computes action into reaction... And as long the US keeps scaring the world(perhaps
much due to world ignorance combined with a cowboy president) it will keep being scared.

What a democrat can do here is to show "Hey I sit on atomic bombs and have the power to destruct the world many times over. But you know what, I won´t do that, look at me, I am a nice guy!" That
diminishes world fear, and as a consequence, American fear.

Dear Aurora,

I would like to address some of your comments in your Posting No. 17.

I'm defending the Nation of the United States because it has been the most "spiritually aware"
nation in the current history of our planet. There have been more "spiritually aware" civilizations in our planet's history but, the principles upon which the United States was founded are the best in our modern world.

As citizens of the world we are supposed to be Co-Creators with God. We were given Intelligence along with the ability to choose between right (good) and wrong (evil). The whole idea is about Spiritual Growth.

There are many Levels (dimensions) of Awareness. On this planet we are currently experiencing the lowest level of awareness. We are not placed here just to accept the status quo and to believe that everything will take care of itself. We are meant to exert some effort towards improving ourselves, towards protecting our environment, and towards graduating to a higher level of awareness.

We are not "all one" in the effort towards these goals as you seem to believe. Among the many levels of consciousness are many that are destructive. Everything will not just take care of itself by our ignorance of the dark forces that are in operation.

We are supposed to value LIGHT (Knowledge) and LOVE (Compassion). Not all of us are ready to do this. This is why mankind cannot be categorized as "one" at this stage of our development.

Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

Aurora C, I enjoyed your response so much. You and I share the name aurora as well so we are probably both early morning light. Very interesting. I had to pick a secret name years ago but shared it with someone who let it out...I wonder then if all who gravitate towards certain names and use them also may be one in our thinking. Just wondering...:-)

Very stimulating discussion; thanks, everybody.

Betsy, you write
"We are not "all one" in the effort towards these goals as you seem to believe".
and
"Not all of us are ready to do this. This is why mankind cannot be categorized as "one" at this stage of our development."

In my understanding, the question is not whether the world or mankind *is* One or *is not* One. I think a more useful question to ask is - what are we focusing on, the differences or the similarities? I used to know a person living in my city who was so focused on the crime situation here, and feeding it constantly by watching the TV news and reading the paper, that his experience of life was an extremely fearful, paralyzed, inward-looking one. I, on the other hand, was blissfully unaware of the crime statistics, since I didn't have a TV (at the time), and didn't read the paper, I generally considered the same city as a fairly fun place to live in. But I could also have taken that perspective too far by not taking basic security precautions.

So it is with the oneness and duality in this world. The variety in people, cultures, animals, plants, etc, make for a fascinating world, but much of the conflict in the world today comes from ignoring the similarities - the common aspirations in all people, the shared stake we have in the health of the environment, etc.

Dear Betsy,

thank you for your post #41.

I don't know if the U.S. is the most "spiritually aware" nation in the current history of our planet, as you say. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

To me, the small nation of Costa Rica for example, is an inspiration. It has, by its own will, renounced having an army and dedicates all its resources to peace, social and ecological healing. In my thinking, seeking peace is being more "aware" than amassing weapons, starting wars and boycotting climate deals. In my thinking, spiritual growth is about seeing through our national frightened or grandiose ego and about learning to love and be of exactly the same worth with all members of our global family. Ultimately, it is about seeing that under any fighting ego is one and the same spirit, even under our own personal and national ego.

But thank you for explaining more of why you keep the doors closed and the greatest arsenal of weapons on earth in your national hands. I understand that in your thinking, the U.S. is the light and has to protect itself with guns against darkness. It is why it keeps bombing others too, to bring more light... Thank you so much for your concern and good intention. But if you still believe in that worldview... best of luck (to all of us) :))))

Arizona sunrise :)
I think that thinking is a field... I think that if we look carefully, there is a body field, a mind field, an emotional field... there are clues everywhere showing us that a "person" is just a shifting bundle of atoms, memories, ideas, tendencies... there is somethings else under the usually seen that wants to become more clearly seen, and I'm glad you're wondering and following the clues.

Swordsman, I enjoyed your post a lot.

Sounds like Costa Rica is setting the new standard.

War creates war
peace creates peace

derek

Dear Aurora,

Thank you for your response. Thank you for your information about Costa Rica and I'm glad it is a good example.

Unfortunately, Costa Rica is not powerful enough to impact world events; therefore, it has not been the focus of the elitist control factions. Seeking Peace, as you say Costa Rica is doing, is more important than amassing weapons, starting wars and boycotting climate deals. This is precisely the message that I am trying to get across. Originally, the government of the United States was dedicated to the preservation of such ideals. At this time in the history of its leadership, the leaders have abandoned these ideals. The rhetoric that is spewed from the speech podiums and press conferences is ambiguous and meant to mislead the public.

I am trying to convey the message that there are powers abosolutely dedicated to destroying the basic tenets upon which the United States government was founded. It is especially sad to have to realize that these elitist groups (dark forces) are influencing our leadership. Our government is no longer representing the will of the vast majority of its people.

Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

But Betsy, Costa Rica is exactly what is changing the world. They are allowing the change that is already happening in us all, they are embodying it, living it, becoming it. Every one of us has the choice- to cling to the old ways or to allow the new that is descending on earth.

Do you think that govenments own the power or some secret evil groups or entities, or maybe God up there far away? The power is in you and me, in everyone. The whole power. Enormous power, the power to be this unity that is arising, descending, gushing out from within every form. You have ALL the power of transformation the moment you let go of what you know about yourself and the world. Let go of fear, defense, otherness and allow the oneness to become alive through you. What do you have to lose? An ephemeral body? Being right? Fear? What you have to gain is so huge it isn't even possible to contain.

Dear Aurora,

Again, I would like to address some of your comments. First, in Posting No. 30 you state,"There is no one "out there" controlling you, or me, or the masses. We are creating it all. The source is in ourselves and as soon as you see how you create "evil" ... it loses abosolutely all power". I do not agree with this concept at all. There has always been a contest between Light and Dark Forces. There is always a duality of energies in all of Creation. Not all of us are creating the "evil" (or the detachment from desire for guidance) from our Creator Source. Those who are on the side of Light (Knowledge of Creation Laws) are not those who are creating the destruction in the world. The evil forces do not magically lose their power because those who are in control comprise very organized groups of dedicated destruction.

In No. 47 you say, "Every one of us has the choice - to cling to the old ways or to alow the new that is descending on earth." First there has to be the recognition (through discernment and education) of what the true picture is before a choice can be desired. There has to be a mass recognition of Truth before a real impact can be realized through the force of concentrated unified concentration on a common goal. It isn't up to God to save us. He has given us the ability to be self determining. We cannot do this if we remain ignorant of those who care nothing about saving the world for higher purposes.

Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

Dear Aurora,

I'd like to add something to my last Posting.

World Governments are experts at using fear to control their citizenry. They rely upon activities such as war, economic crisis and social unrest to create situations of fear. Then the citizenry is most likely to accept their solutions and guidance for protection from these situations. They look for some authority to save them. How do you think these crises come about? They don't just happen by themselves.

It is not the citizenry who are responsible for these situations. It is not the individual who is creating the evil.

Please do some research on YouTube.com. Please look up: Jordan Maxwell on the Illuminati.

I believe that you will have a different "take" on the subject after listening to him.

Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

Dear Betsy,

thank you for your comments, I understand your reasoning perfectly. You are truly dedicated to the good and concerned for how this battle of light and darkness is ever going to end. I understand you so well, and please know that I respect your view and feel your concern.

And it is very possible that nothing I say or do can help you solve the difficult situation you see. You are the light, and the darkness is both scary and powerful... people have fought wars and also against wars for ages. People are evil and fighting evil since the beginning of time. It's not getting better, is it?

So what's going to help, do you think? There is always a duality of energies in all of Creation, you say. So you understand that the duality of energies will prevail. How are you ever going to stop worrying and fighting?

What would happen if you detached yourself from your role and looked at it all from above, like you were a being from another galaxy. Would you see all these people fighting, all convinced that they are right (light) and the others are wrong (darkness)? Would you see them being born, fighting, dying, becoming dust, being born and continuing the fight, century after century?

So, who is this "you" that has now taken the role of extraterrestrial looking from above (just for a moment of hypotetical discussion)? What would this entity wonder about the ever fighting people? And what would Betsy answer to a question like "why are you fighting with yourselves?"

Dear Aurora,

It's good to hear from you again. Thank you for your thought provoking questions. You ask, if you were an advanced entity watching our planet from another galaxy watching the people being born, fighting, dying, becoming dust, being born and continuing the fight, century after century -what would you think? I would see a "planet of the apes". I would view it with great compassion and with a great desire to save the beings from themselves and their ignorance.

You ask, "So, who is this "you" that has now taken the role of extraterrestrial looking from above, like you were a being from another galaxy?" The "you" looking down from above is myself in an advanced state of my development as a spiritually conscious being at a further stage of my development - in the ongoing operation of progressive growth in my trip towards existence as a Being of Light.

Last night I heard a discussion on the radio about the Hubble telescope and how it has photographed billions of galaxies. Within every galaxy are stars too numerous to be counted and each star has a planet. The enormity of creation is incomprehensible. We cannot comprehend the countless forms of intelligent life within this grand plan. We, on this planet are babies (the ones in the kindergarten of life). We will eventually graduate to more elevated planes of realization but, it is a long and difficult journey.

Thank you so much for your comments, Aurora.

Best Wishes,

"Betsy" S.

Dear Betsy,

you were that Being for a moment, so you know it is real. Your own Being will continue to guide you, don't ever doubt it :)

Namasté,
Aurora

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