Tori Roy - June 12, 2008
Spike Lee and Clint Eastwood: Dirty Harry takes on Malcolm X! Poking with a stick or let sleeping dogs lie? Which side are you on? Do we have to pick a side? Whichever side you find yourself agreeing or sympathizing with, one thing is clear. Either because of the high profile status of the two contenders or because this is an issue whose time has come - This just refuses to go away. Even after Eastwood asked Lee to “shut his face” instead of making such an issue out of it.
Spike Lee has refused to back down from his criticism of Clint Eastwood for not including black soldiers in his two films about the battle of Iwo Jima in World War II.
The two films are “Flags of our Fathers” and “Letters from Iwo Jima”. Eastwood had responded that the film was about the men who raised the flag at Mt. Suribachi and that none of them was black. The Dirty Harry star advised the Malcolm X director to "shut his face." In an interview with ABCNews.com, Lee retorted saying, “He sounds like an angry old man right there." Meanwhile, a black Marine sergeant by the name of Thomas McPhatter, who fought at Iwo Jima, has told Britain's Guardian newspaper that he had provided the pipe that was used as the makeshift flagstaff for the flag hoisted by the men seen in the historic Iwo Jima photos.
Which one of us is of the opinion that a revered Hollywood veteran such as Clint Eastwood should not be questioned with regard to his artistic choices in a film made by him but based on actual historical events – whose value was determined by it’s relevance to, and place in history. Which one among us thinks because of his reputation as a bit of a troublemaker and a confessed radical – Spike Lee should be denied his soap-box?
Whether the ultimate objective is Entertainment or Financial bottom line (not that Hollywood is ever seen without its pocket book) – Is this politicizing of Hollywood? Is it just about Hollywood, the movies, the media or is there a wider ramification. If so, how far-reaching is the fallout? Who wants to think about all this? Especially if you are far enough away from Hollywood and its influence. Are you really?
It is never just black & white. Rather it is several shades of gray – and the many colors (no pun intended) seen through the prism – more so now than at any other time. Is it time yet for the rest of us to be heard?
Tori.
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Posted by Tori Roy at June 12, 2008 05:10 PM
I don't care about Hollywood.
Race is different, I do care about that.
And it's not about Spike vs Clint = black vs white.
Where was Spike when Clint made Round Midnight? Or his film biography-documentary about Thelonious Monk? Or his multiple-part series on Blues musicians? I guess maybe those movies passed Spike's black-people quota test? Hello?
There are racists in America, no doubt. But puhleeze, folks, Clint Eastwood isn't one of them, for crying out loud.
Nevertheless, the point Spike makes has some validity, and it gets press precisely because it is exaggerated and involves mega-rich Hollywood personalities.
If you and I were having the same discussion, I have a feeling the press wouldn't show up. But that's classism, which is a different discussion.
So forget about Clint vs Spike. That's not the issue. The issue is institutionalized racism, and yes, it exists in the US military even to this day.
I have read accounts of American Indians fighting in Iraq. They are expected, for example, to go along with the jargon that enemy territory, even in 2008, is still called "Indian country" by their fellow soldiers. Then they get to go out and terrorize and kill brown skinned people who live in small poor communities much like the ones they came from.
So, have we come a long way, or not?
We abolished slavery. Black people can vote, even though, to this day, they are cheated out of their votes by shifty voting rules and politicians who wish, even though they dont say it out loud anymore, that blacks could not vote.
We have made some milestones, sure, we have major black Hollywood directors like Spike himself, and a black running for President, who narrowly beat a woman for the nomination. Those are good breakthroughs, no doubt.
But Spike is right. There's still an underbelly of ugliness, and we shouldn't rest until it too has been transformed by a philosophy of compassion and equality of all the races and religions.
But don't be fooled. Spike's issue is not Clint Eastwood, it's a far bigger and pernicious problem he's attacking. But first he had to get everyone's attention. And he's good at doing that.
Spike vs. Lee Round 3
Here's a nice report:
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2284542,00.html
Monday June 9, 2008
The Guardian
Spike vs. Clint Round 3
Here's a nice report:
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2284542,00.html
Monday June 9, 2008
The Guardian
The namecalling and war of words over black soldiers escalated with Eastwood's Guardian interview.
Nice conclusion to the feud (from the Guardian story above:)
"....Lee however promised to draw a line under the bitter war of words, alluding to the tone of the bid for the White House of Barack Obama, who went to see Lee's Do The Right Thing on his first date with his wife Michelle. Lee said of Eastwood: "Even though he's trying to have a Dirty Harry flashback, I'm going to take the Obama high road and end it right here. Peace and love."
Soumds like a publicity stunt to me. But I have not read the Guardian article yet either. I will always side with Clint Eastwood ever since Play Misty For Me.
Hi Arizonasunset,
I'm not sure I understand you correctly. Did you mean it was a publicity stunt for Clint Eastwood's movie? If that were so (provided he needed it after the sweeping oscar buzz the two movies created) don't you think he would have handled it a bit more eloquently than asking his detractor to "shut his face". On the other hand did you mean it was publicity for Spike Lee's forthcoming movie? That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
Hi Yogi-one
I get that you don't care about Hollywood. Not enough even to go to the movies? What about your neighbors? friends? family? Do you think Hollywood cares about you? Your friends? your neighbors/ your extended family? If all these people stopped going to the movies (let's say hypothetically - stage a boycott) do you think then Hollywood would care? The reason for the boycott could be anything - you were offended by something - and influenced your friends & family to stop going to the movies. If it affected their box-office would they then care? So - hypothetically speaking - it is possible to make your opinion heard - one man / or woman at a time - caring might just bring about a change. That was my point ...
If you think Hollywood is just about some nameless faceless suit sitting in a studio somewhere with his goal simply to entertain you for an hour /two hours (in the case of Bollywood - which incidentally takes it's cue from Hollywood), and that movies do not pre-condition us to think and act a certain way, nor are they a reflection of the times we live in - you may want to think again.....
Thank you one and all for reading and making your voices heard. Appreciate...
Tori
I think it is a publicity.
Dear Tori, love your posts, it's good to bring those painful issues to the fore and you do it passionately. Shall we approach the topics from other angles as well ? For it is good to see how things are down the valley when you take a somewhat elevated perspective.
From the blessed perspective of the original design, there is no contradiction what so ever, for there is no evidence which can support the superiority of the one race over the other. Moreover the whole notion of the race is a fiction on which the painful pages of our history have been strung.
The reality of man is not the variety of the tone of his skin or hair, but the nervous system which reflects Cosmos in all its entirety. Man is Cosmic. Knowing that should bring the end of the era of misconception and hallucination. We ought to wake up from the Darwinian ideas of the evolution of the species and awake to our true identity - that of the Universe.
No attempts to solve the problem on a less elevated level will prove effective. For up until one knows to be himself and not the other, one will always find an excuse to accuse the circumstances for being less than what he/she is.
If you want to free man from his condition of being this or that, black or white, blue or green, let him know his true status. That will be sufficient to make him who he is and has always been. Providing of course you equip him with the tools to know himself directly. Pretty soon he will stand to his only essence and measure up to his own Self.
With Love and Joy,
igor
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