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What is the Right Price for Oil?

ATCA - June 09, 2008

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Dear Friends, oil prices staged their biggest one day advance on record to reach an all-time high of almost USD 140 on Friday.

The global economy is facing a complex challenge, the nature and scale of which are quite unprecedented, possibly since the beginning of the industrial revolution. It is incumbent on distinguished ATCA members to nurture the Socratic Dialogue on this vital subject from first principles and not jump to hasty conclusions and simplistic remedies.

The data presented so far overwhelmingly appears to support a fundamental supply/demand imbalance, the former driven by resource constraints and investment shortfalls and the latter by the inclusion of ever greater numbers in the global consumer economy. The politically fashionable excoriation of energy market speculators is a futile attempt to divert the world's attention from supply and demand fundamentals and our profligate and inefficient uses of energy across the globe.

The daily volume of oil futures transactions represents an equal number of sales and purchases. Whence the conclusion that:

1. This activity should drive prices up and not down?; and
2. Producers and consumers buy and sell to "smooth out fluctuations"?

Traders in futures have no interest or intention to render the market such services, but are merely hedging or establishing a position for outright future sale or purchase.

In reality, oil prices will keep going up to the level where it meaningfully reduces demand. This is simple economics: we need more oil supply and/or less oil demand. Since there are various political, technological and geological constraints on growing supply, the markets are left with looking for the price at which demand is reduced. The principal effect of "speculators" is to provide liquidity. Their effect on final prices is in and of itself neither predictable nor measurable, although their likely losses over time may, if anything, tend to lower them.

Read the article at mi2g.net.

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Best wishes


DK Matai

Chairman
Asymmetric Threats Contingency Alliance (ATCA) & The Philanthropia
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Posted by ATCA at June 9, 2008 02:16 AM

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So, what is the right price of oil?

Dara

Dear DK,

Will oil become the tangible currency of choice?

I have a friend whose brother previously worked in Defense Intelligence he retired from working in that capacity and is helping put together oil contracts with the Russians which was much more lucrative. I wrote about it here before. Temporary Paper companies are set up for the contracts and the agents of the transaction receive a commission based on the current price of a barrel of oil when the contract is executed. So the people putting together the oil contracts make more money from a higher barrel price, so here we have an incentive to drive the price up!

I am not saying this is, looking at the bigger picture, an undesired thing because it looks to be playing into the divine plan to force the elimination of the threat to global security and lead to a clean environment and decentralized infrastructure. It is also going to create the fire for the global revolution and migration to the new systems.

It is also helping to expose the flaws in our other systems, mainly the financial and monetary systems.

It is asked “What is the right price of oil?” It hasn't really changed if we look at gold and oil, an ounce of goal buys the same amount of oil it did 20 years ago.

What has happened is major mismanagement of the world's currency systems, or even more so the inherent flaws have become exaggerated because of the huge global economy based on these systems.

I agree that the root is cause is probably supply and demand which is related to production capacity rather than the actual oil supply. There are many contributing factors including greed, gambling (speculation) and general ego tendencies. However one of these other factors that could be more dominant may actually be that investors not sure where to put their money are looking for something tangible. Of course I could direct investors to something tangible to invest in and will be putting something formal together, a joint venture.

As a result of the fiat currency bubble no one is sure what any currency is worth other than how much food it can buy today, next week who knows?

The truth about oil and gold is their price ratio is the same; oil and gold have not really increased in price for many years. The value of the world’s fiat currency is in question because of poor management and not having the proper information technology and liquid data flow needed to support and manage such a system.

I have seen some encouraging signs, glimmers of light, signs of consciousness evolving, and propagation of some truths. Yet they are just glimmers, and I still see plenty of fictions being tossed about and a “clinging” to the old consciousness way and their wealth. While some players have embraced change and evolution many others still resist.

The divine plan is unfolding perfectly and I happen to be in on it. If your plan is not unfolding perfectly then it must not be in alignment with the divine plan. If you need help getting in aligned with it then call me and or pay close attention.

A little more than a year ago in response on Apr 4th 08, to Deepak’s thread “A Remedy for Fear” [Click My Name] I wrote:

You see for my Final Magic Act I will make the world's currencies disappear before your very eyes, for they are all based on perception. Do not "fear" there will be something new to replace them but be wise in where you place your wealth and where you derive it.
For in the blink of an eye there will be dissemination of intelligence and I shall make it gone and you will not have what was earned through illusion and upon a foundation of ignorance.

Should be - an ounce of "gold" buys the same amount of oil it did 20 years ago

This is the correct link below for that thread by Deepak.

Sorry for typos and grammatical erros, trying to do to many things at once.

I'm a gonna convert my waste veggie oil car to run on water as well...

http://www.water4gas.com/1007.htm

A friend of mine has built this on-demand hydrogen injection system in his diesel, and his fuel mileage improved 30-40 percent.

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