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Deepak Chopra - December 04, 2008

Since we started the itakethevow.com web site only a few weeks ago, we have had over 3000 people take the vow for nonviolence. A number of questions though have come up on how to keep the vow.
I will try to address some of these questions here:

Q. What does nonviolence in thought and speech mean in everyday situations?
A. It means simply reminding yourself that you have made a commitment and that you have taken this vow. When the situation arises and your tendency is to be reactive, a simple reminder will often prevent you from generating a hostile reaction and by and by you will find yourself creating and calmer more creative response in subsequent situations.

Q. How is the vow supposed to work in difficult or life-threatening situations?
A. In difficult life-threatening situations you must respond instinctually to protect yourself. I would like to give you two personal stories as examples. The first is an incident that occurred when my daughter Mallika was only 6-weeks old. We were living in a tenement apartment in a very poor section of Boston. I was a resident in Internal Medicine at Boston City Hospital. My wife Rita had gone to the grocery store and I was baby-sitting. Mallika was in a little basket next to me and I was reading a medical journal. The doorbell rang and when I opened it a 6’ 11’’man suddenly entered the apartment wielding a baseball bat in his gigantic hands. I let out the loudest scream in my life. It was so piercing and shrill I’m surprised it didn’t shatter all the glass in the place. The baseball bat fell from his hands. Without thought, I instinctively picked it up and hit him in the back. The next thing I knew, he was crumpled on the floor and police sirens were wailing outside. It turns out he had just escaped from prison where he had been incarcerated for multiple murders. The police handcuffed him and took him back to prison. The next day my photo appeared in the local newspaper as a hero.
The second situation occurred only five years ago. After giving a lecture in a Southern city, I was walking back to my hotel through a dark alley behind a theater. Suddenly I found myself surrounded by four male teenagers. One of them had a gun which he held against my head. This time, I remained calm and centered. It had been approximately 30 years since the first encounter with violence and I had been practicing meditation for much of that time. I took out my wallet gave my terrorist “friends” all the cash I had. Then I found myself saying to them “You don’t want to be in prison for murder for just a $150. Will you please allow me to keep my credit cards as they will be of no use to you? If you throw the gun away and run as fast as you can, I promise you I will tell no one about this episode except my wife.” They hesitated, and I said “Please throw the gun away, and run quickly.” The apparent leader of the group then threw his gun away, and they ran off. The next day I went to an ATM and took out $150 to replace the cash. I kept my promise and did not tell anyone but my wife about this episode for 6 months. If you stay connected to your soul the right response will occur as it needs to happen.

Q. When we say "nonviolence," it still contains the word "violence," shouldn't we say take a vow of "peace" instead?
A. The vow of non-violence is a vow of peace. It amounts to the same thing. Whatever language one chooses there are bound to be certain pitfalls associated with it. As we know, people have tried to justify war and violence in the name of peace as well. I see the vow of nonviolence in terms of the Sanskrit word Ahimsa, which is an active interaction with others and nature on the basis of the spiritual unity which connects us all. So nonviolence is not passive, but active in a nurturing way. Ahimsa describes behavior that respects and supports all who are involved. It assumes a universality the way that the greeting namaste recognizes that the divinity in others is the same as the divinity within us.

When we see, feel and know that consciousness that we are all a part of, then becoming a peacemaker comes naturally, and compassion, joyfulness, and friendliness towards others is just an expression of who we are.

Q. Isn't nonviolence too naïve and impractical of an approach to our complex world?
A. The world is a projection of our collective consciousness. If enough of us are nonviolent, the world will be more peaceful. The psychological frame of “impractical” reflects history of past failures based on limited consciousness, so by its very nature that framing cannot fathom emerging potentialities.
It is the very notion that it is a naïve and impractical idea that prevents us from creating this peaceful reality.

Q. Isn't war and violence built-in to human nature?
A. War and violence is built into human nature. It has been part of the struggle for survival in our evolution. The problem is that when you have the combination of ancient habits of violence and modern technological capacities then you see devastating effects. A handful of people in Mumbai created this devastation recently. We see it everywhere in the world and read about it everyday in the media. Jonas Salk the discoverer and of the polio vaccine, and great evolutionary thinker, said, “ Survival of the fittest must be replaced by survival of the wisest.” He suggested this as the next stage of humanity’s evolutionary growth.
The time has come where we must collectively participate in the next state of evolution from our violent nature into our wise and peaceful nature or else we will not survive.

Q. I'm afraid that taking a vow of nonviolence will mean that people will take advantage of me.
A. You are coming from fear. That is living your life based on the past. Come from love and trust and you will access you real strength and power from where no one can take advantage of you.

Q. What good can come of promising to behave better than your actual ability? Isn't it like priests vowing celibacy, repressing and thereby empowering their shadow side impulses?
A. If you take the vow, you must seriously ask yourself if you are ready for it. Personally, when I took the vow myself, I thought I was ready for it. Having recently come under attack in the media I find myself getting combative and defensive. I observed this response of mine and have tried to use that insight to understand myself better and thereby strengthen and mature my nonviolent behavior.
When I look deeper into my heart , I find no malice or hostility toward my attackers. I did experience anger, expressed it, and then let it pass, reminding myself that I had taken the vow. Anger as an natural expression (as long as you don’t cause physical harm) can sometimes be a healthy emotion, and repressing or denying it only distorts the normal human response. It is important to find a healthy, creative and constructive outlet for emotions.
There is a difference between anger and hostility. Hostility is when you seek vengeance and want to maliciously hurt another person. It is now known to be the number one emotional risk factor for premature death from cardiovascular accidents such as heart attack and stroke.
In summary, do not commit to the vow if you seriously think that you cannot observe any aspect of it. On the other hand if you feel ready for the next stage of evolution then take the vow and do what comes to you most naturally, while remembering that you did take the vow. This isn’t meant to be grim, life or death oath to bind your soul to. It is intended to be a expression of the emerging truth of you real Self, so have fun, laugh, and be light-hearted about it at the same time. You are right that repression and suppression are definitely pathological and can perpetuate violence. This vow is certainly not about squashing healthy emotions to try to live some imaginary spiritual ideal. Be easy, stay conscious and enjoy life.

Q. I like the idea of making nonviolence a guiding principle in my life, but I am vow-phobic. Can I participate in being a part of this global effort without having to make a formal vow?
A. Even if you aren’t comfortable taking the vow formally but are dedicated to nonviolence, then you are still participating in this global effort on the level of your consciousness, and that of course is the most powerful contribution we can make. Feel free to participate in whatever way that feels right to you. Some affirm their intention without saying the word “vow” others feel better using the word “peace,” some just like saying “I am” as their way of participating in this collective shift in global consciousness. So find whatever way joining the effort that resonates with you.
Q. What is it about stating one's intentions explicitly by taking a vow that is supposed help actualize nonviolent behavior?

A. By stating the vow of nonviolence explicitly and asking those who are close to you to remind you when you are deviating from those principles of nonviolence, accelerates the process of evolution. Recently when I found myself being combative as a result of the personal attacks in the Wall Street Journal , my wife and children kept reminding me I had taken the vow. I found that very useful in mitigating my aggressive tendencies.

Q. Do I have to be vegetarian to take the vow?
A. We are all part of the food chain. The Upanishads say “ We are tomorrows food.” Eating habits are based on culture, geography and influenced by religion. It is well know that if you give only vegetarian food to indigenous Inuit people, who have survived for eons on whale blubber, you will quickly see the deleterious effects of switching to a vegetarian diet. They become uncharacteristically ill-tempered, their teeth decay, and the incidence of heart attacks increases dramatically. Another study published in Lancet years ago showed that when people were forced to switch to a vegetarian diet because they had high risk factors for heart disease, but were not prepared emotionally and psychologically for the change, their rate of heart attacks actually increased rather than decreased.
In general, it is obvious that a vegetarian diet is healthier, it is better for ecology, and less violent on life as a whole. However, what is best for us as an individual cannot be dictated by general principles or statistics. You must do what you are emotionally and psychologically prepared to do. Childhood habits that are culturally ingrained can be difficult to break, and their impact cannot always be overridden by will power, nor from a health standpoint should they necessarily be overridden. Find the path that works best for you. Being a non-vegetarian should not prevent you from taking the vow.

Love,
Deepak

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Posted by Deepak Chopra at December 4, 2008 08:56 AM

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Dear Deepak,

I would ask all those that have taken the vow.

I wonder have you divested yourself of investments in that which commits passive violence. For example those that profit from fear, disease, environmental imbalance, or oil?

Are you earning interest on any money? This is a source of passive violence making money from money.

Have you returned or donated any money made from stock market fluctuations (Gambling) or that came from investments in the disease or fear industry?

If not you have already broken your vow and failed.

I didn't take that vow, non-violence is my dominant nature. I do think it is a good project helping to create awareness that violence is more than just a physical expression.

If the lioness were to take the vow her cubs would be consumed. The lioness protecting her cubs does not act from fear, or hate, but from compassion.

It is not what you do, but the source of the impetus for what you do that has bearing.

Does one choose love or fear ?

A vow not to not to act on fear thoughts is a challenge fit for a God.

I AM reminded of the dialog from Infinite Play.

The apprentice is talking with the master.

■ Apprentice: If I am God then why do I have so many problems?

☺ Master: You don't act like God.

■ Apprentice: How does God act?

☺ Master: God doesn't act on fear thoughts, God has nothing to fear.

■ Apprentice: So if I stop acting on fear thoughts all my problems will go away?

☺ Master: No, but you will transform them with miracles.

~Infinite Play

If today every being on the planet chose to act on a love thought which implies one body, omnipotence and reality and resolved to not act on the fear thoughts which implies separation, impotence and illusion, the world would be transformed into a paradise.

1. Posted by Richard Thomas ∞Φ on December 4, 2008 10:01 AM

I do agree that no matter what words are used the intention is the same.

2. Posted by Richard Thomas ∞Φ on December 4, 2008 10:06 AM

I have a question for Dr.Chopraji .Compared to Dr.Chopraji
I am nobody and do not belong to the elite society in
Which Dr.Chopraji moves around and I hope he answers my question.
Question may be silly so please bear with me.

How Dr.Chopraji would have dealt non-violently with Hitler and his Nazi regime whose
main goal is world domination and wiping of Jews from
the face of the earth?

Mahatma Gandhi advocated non-violence and told Hindus
not to react violently when Muslims attack them even
if it means that the whole Hindu race gets extinct. Majority
of the Hindus just could not understand this point of
allowing the race to get extinct so that principle of
Non-violence shines.

3. Posted by kadambha on December 4, 2008 10:07 AM

If a known thief comes to my house and I send him away I have acted on a fear thought. If I invite him in I have acted on a love thought, and the thief will be transformed, for it was acting on fear thoughts that created the thief; the fear of lack and the illusion of scarcity in others.

It's not so easy is it? Requiring absolute trust and knowing of the all pervading which some might call faith.

4. Posted by Richard Thomas ∞Φ on December 4, 2008 10:21 AM

"If you stay connected to your soul the right response will occur as it needs to happen."

What if the right response is violence?

...I'm not trying to play the 'gotcha game' or ask a trick question. I just struggle at times to know if or when violence is ever justified say for example in self-defense or to carry this example further to protect your country from a potential nuclear attack...

5. Posted by Matthew on December 4, 2008 11:27 AM

How to keep the vow of non-violence.

It is a beautiful day
A new day
The sun is shining
My heart is filled with peace
I walk here in this little park
Every step I take
Is manifesting a world of
Vibrant energy
Around me
Leaves are waving in the wind
Birds are singing in the trees
Ducks are swimming in the water
And me, am part of it all
While breathin in and out
I am alive
Manifesting paradise on earth
Everywhere I go
I encounter people smiling at me
I smile back
And in their eyes I see
They know, just like me
Of happiness inside

I create this world myself
With every step I take
And gratitude comes in
Because it is really possible
To live and let live this way
And if you really understand
The power of manifestation
Then everything you manifest
Will radiate around yourself
Because you are that point
In the middle
From which everything sprouts forth
And the world within
Becomes the world without
As simple as one can imagine

And

As complicated as one can imagine

IT IS ALL.. UP TO ME..

6. Posted by heartphone on December 4, 2008 12:19 PM

Physical defense in the preservation of life (not material things) is not violence in this mind.

Violence is an offensive act.

Within the human body there is no violence yet cells and pathogens are destroyed. With cells there is first an attempt to repair damage. What threatens the body as a whole is destroyed, yet it is impartial without emotion.

The question of violence has to do with intent, the source of the action Ego / Spirit, and emotions, fear and hate in contrast to love and compassion.

The battle is in your mind the choice between truth and fiction, reality and illusion.

7. Posted by Richard Thomas ∞Φ on December 4, 2008 12:23 PM

Dear Deepak,

I took one vow in my whole life and that was when I married my husband. Perhaps in those days I was too young to really understand what taking a vow meant, but I have kept it up till now, for better and for worse.

I have experienced better and worse in my life and have become wiser from it. I even have become a wholesome person who now is completely aware of the vow she once took. In this vow lies the whole experience of having become whole in oneself. This is an evolution in one’s own life. It takes a whole life

I truly believe that if one is whole in oneself, there is peace in oneself and in one’s world. And one does not have to take another vow to accomplish something one already has :)

I believe I simply am the vow I took and live accordingly.

I am not so keen to make a public vow anymore. I live one day at a time and I have become so wise that I will never say ‘never’ again.

But I regularly walk my peace labyrinth that I made to honour you. In that way I consider myself still a part of the critical mass :).

Best wishes and peace inside and outside.

And much love, from the heart

Mieke

8. Posted by heartphone on December 4, 2008 12:32 PM

Thank you so much for your explanations. I see it much the same way, though for me, the vow of peace is easier to understand as a vow of love.

Here is my vow:

http://www.openone.net/blog/index.php?itemid=94

And here is why I think everyone can take a vow of peace:

http://www.openone.net/blog/index.php?itemid=112

9. Posted by Aurora C on December 4, 2008 12:33 PM

Hi Aurora :)

Yes I agree.

Falling in love, again and again is such a wonderful creative feeling that I sometimes ask myself: why didn't I listen to myself all the time :)

Because when you fall in love, it is forever and in the end you know you always fall in love with yourself :)

I have this song in my heart for already a couple of days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHOHskOB0cM

love from the heart

Mieke

10. Posted by heartphone on December 4, 2008 12:57 PM

I too enjoyed reading this post of Deepak's as I found out something new, i.e., I did not know that he was still a MD.

Anyway, I tend to agree with what Richard says in his post above, as his wise heart shines forth. Thanks!

Love, Char

11. Posted by Char on December 4, 2008 01:24 PM

Opps ... got Deepak's two recent posts mixed up. I really apprecciate Deepak sharing his wisdom and combining these questions that many of us have had on the vow of peace, as well as Deepak's candor. It's just that other issue of he said/she said ....

12. Posted by Char on December 4, 2008 01:29 PM

S/he - One?

13. Posted by Char on December 4, 2008 01:32 PM

War or peace with Self? Shall I feed the wolfe or starve it? Does it really matter? I don't know? I will ponder upon my new pet and whether I shall keep it or let it run free. If I let the wolfe run free, will it die? If I feed it, will it bit my hand again?

14. Posted by Char on December 4, 2008 01:38 PM

This is so bazzar, as I am hearing these words in a song right now - "sleep in heavenly peace, silent night..."

PEACE - is the message of Jesus Christ, the King of Peace and the Savior of the World.

Love, Char

15. Posted by Char on December 4, 2008 01:43 PM

Sometimes my higher self and my ego goes into battle, Wherever I am at the moment or whatever i'm doing, I stop and ask for guidance. I then become aware of the vibrations i'm experiencing and the activities surrounding me because this is how my answer flows.

In the last 15yrs I have never been in a situation where I experienced extreme violence and would have to ack in self-defense. I imagine if i'm living in a higher state of consciousness, my first reaction or impulse would be directed from God.

In Deepak's new book, Jesus actually hit a Roman soldier and broke his Jaw, I couldn't believe it, but of course, the book is written in fiction, but there is a hugh amount of information which i'm certain is true.

Hugs, Lily

16. Posted by Lily S. on December 4, 2008 01:54 PM

That was wonderful and sweet Aurora Christ.

: )

17. Posted by Richard Thomas ∞Φ on December 4, 2008 02:41 PM

Yes, when we engage something that sees or treats us as separate being, it is a struggle to not respond as separate being. Source disconnected Ego tends to disconnect other ego, snapping connections to the source. It takes focus and sheer will to stay connected in these situations.

Hopefully one can maintain one's connection and in the best of all worlds connect the other disconnected ego back to the source with wisdom and compassion.

Once we master this with individual disconnected egos, then we face the world's collective source disconnected ego, and that requires phenomenal spiritual strength and nothing less than a God realized to get it all connected.

18. Posted by Richard Thomas ∞Φ on December 4, 2008 03:26 PM

Deepak's 2nd Jesus book is purely fictional and not a real story, as Jesus Christ was born perfect, as the Son of God by a Vigin. I will go to my grave with this belief, however, I may understand what it means more fully as I grow. Such as we are all perfect at the very core of our being and Jesus was already in union with God from the beginning (i.e, aware of his divinity), as the NT confirms and Jesus had no doubts of God as we do, but Jesus knew God and was born good and holy.

Love, Char

19. Posted by Char on December 4, 2008 05:17 PM

The true story of Jesus is that he is the Prince of Peace, therefore, war is not a part of Jesus The Christ.

Love,
Char

20. Posted by Char on December 4, 2008 05:22 PM

Therefore, a vow of non-violence is a vow made to Jesus Christ and God in my mind, i.e., a vow of peace. I made the vow, as it is holy, tho challenging for me. This is my second vow, with the first vow to God to do His Will, which is incredibly difficult as well, but I will not give up and will do my best, as I pray for strength from my Lord.

Love, Char

21. Posted by Char on December 4, 2008 05:28 PM

Thanks Char these are the times for the testing of one's spiritual metal.

If I remember correctly Jesus did have some doubts, earth is a wild frontier where the pioneering souls come first.

Someday we will get a Peaceful Kingdom established here and it will become a much desired vacation adventure destination rather than a school. Of course that is just a story line...

22. Posted by Richard Thomas ∞Φ on December 4, 2008 09:21 PM

From within violence spring forth the seeds of non-violence and from within non-violence spring forth the seeds of violence.

There will never be the one without the other.

Knowing this the man of wisdom rises above both.

Acting spontaneously he can now be violent now non-violent.

Binding oneself with any vow is to lose one's spontaneity.

23. Posted by Harb on December 5, 2008 12:01 AM

#23 Yo, Harb, we hang on a thread, Who can stop the sway of the ship?
Maybe the anticipator can, but never the participator.
How's about a spontaneous anticipator?
How's about the point of suspension?
Can one be there, too, co-creating, re-participating?

Just some hazy, lazy, thoughts ;))

24. Posted by Ed on December 5, 2008 02:31 AM

Dear Mieke, thank you for the song. I'm so glad for you, it is obvious that you are in love :) You might like this song too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApbGsQAsWOY&feature=related

Richard, I've said "namasté" many times when reading your posts...

Harb, why "binding"? I don't see it like that. Why take a vow of something one doesn't want? And if you want something, then you don't bind yourself. You simply choose from all that's there in you. I know we see things differently, but I'd like to ask you- don't you prefer a peaceful world to a world where so many people suffer? And if you do, is there anything you can do to create it?

25. Posted by Aurora C on December 5, 2008 07:11 AM

Hi Aurora,

Yes definitely: Let there be Love :)

I expressed this also in my poem hereabove #6.

And Harb...... I love You, spontaneously :)

from the heart

26. Posted by heartphone on December 5, 2008 07:51 AM

Vow of Non - violence may go against some religions.

Mahatma Gandhi was the pioneer of non violence, got liberation of India, but by the time of partition, could not contain the violence to much extent.

When ones religion prescribes the violence as a means of bringing justice to one's community, the philosophy works just like "Childhood food habits culturally ingrained and difficult to break" as Deepak said.

Any practical solution towards encouraging people to take the vows against religion???

27. Posted by Anurag on December 5, 2008 08:41 AM

Anurag, I think that such a vow can't be taken against anything. Especially not religion.

To me, the role of religion should be to support and guide on the path to one's own self, and that includes learning to know one's inner world of thought and feeling, values and ideals, etc. Through sincere introspection and with guidance from those who have walked the path before, one can slowly begin to identify the different aspects of oneself, see what works and what doesn't, and move on from the automatic reflexes which do not serve one's evolution anymore.

So practically, I see it more in terms of encouraging people to free their minds from stale books of rules made by others and help them think, feel, know and understand themselves in deeper and deeper ways. In that way, they can discover that their natural impulses are balanced and in harmony with everyone else, and not extreme.

28. Posted by Aurora C on December 5, 2008 09:30 AM

Hi Deepak,

I have put a lot of attention on you recently and just observed your love and the beauty of your soul without comment.

I believe that you have become a Spiritual Master and you are uncovering truths that have Been buried beneath materialism for a very long time.

I know that titles and names will have become meaningless in your heart... but a Master of the Cosmos I call you.

Love

Simon xx

29. Posted by Simon_Freejohn on December 5, 2008 10:08 AM

However Master,

I disagree with your answer on diet and nutrition..

True - Peoples diets are based on habitat and culture and their bodies have become adapted to a particular type of food, yes and a change in one kind of DEAD food to another type of Dead food will cause termoil within their system.

However, there are some fundamentals about digestion that are true right throughout the human species. This can be argued that the species evolved in on habitat not in multiple habitats. We were originaly mainly fruit eaters and Salad eaters.

Diet is a lot more powerful than most of you here realise! and I really mean that. There is a particular way to eat that will finely sharpen everything about you both physicaly and spiritualy.

What many people do not realise is that "What you are is what you eat" The difference between Good health, Longevity, Illness and premature death can be linked to Diet. Most people are slowly poisining their body to death over many years.

Love

Simon xx

30. Posted by Simon_Freejohn on December 5, 2008 10:26 AM

Well, I suppose the word ‘doubt’ needs to be defined, as we all have different meanings for the same word. I don’t see Jesus as ever doubting God. However, as a possible example, Jesus overcame physical pain and death on the cross, as Jesus asked God to take this cup away prior to his capture, while praying that God’s will be done and not his own. I think this showed Jesus’ great faith in God and as the son of man, as well as the Son of God, as he stayed true to his spirit, even tho there was initial fear of the physical body dying, which was a natural emotional reaction to death from man, but as spirit Jesus rose above the physical death to share the journey of eternal life of Spirit with all of us.

31. Posted by Char on December 5, 2008 10:38 AM

Hi Simon,

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap081205.html

Love to you :)

32. Posted by heartphone on December 5, 2008 10:39 AM

Mieke,

very Beautiful yet still obviously an interpretation...

When the observer and the observed are one... the sky is always smiling.. even when it is Grey and miserable.

I perceive through sight but One is not scenery, I perceive through hearing yet one is not sound.. I perceive through fragrance but one is not smell. I know through mind and believe it to be me yet I will be here when mind has ended its classroom.. I think I am belief.. but I am only "I Am"

"At the end of the road"

have you ever heard that?
"At the end of the road" or "at the end of the day" or "When all is said an done"

When you know there are no ends or alls; then you are all, then you are a master of the Cosmos like our wonderful soul Deepak.

But you must go there to experience it... some will sit on here like I do and profess this stuff about the kind of things that Deepak talks about. But "There are those who say and there are those who do"

Like Deepak says above "You need to be ready"

I Would add some thing to that "The time is now"

Being ready to take In a certain understanding is not in your conscious control sometimes... it flows, the time will be when it will be for you to know it as heart felt experience... until then it will just be talk..

Deepak is a Master now there is no doubt about it I love him deeply and I really mean that and also I fear for him as he stands for the abstract in some places in the material realm.

In his mind he can not possibly know yet the stretches to which his voice has penetrated into the hearts of those in despair and need for a voice that speaks from a place higher than the Sun.

No matter where you may find ones self it abides always to a simple pattern and thats is the pattern of logical simplicity. It is so hard to accept from the minds perspective that simplicity itself is the underlying wisdom to all.

as soon as you try to understand simplicity it will mirror complexity which is the mirror of questioning.

Deepak is document of the next step into an era of divine realization...

"The time maybe now"

Love

Simon xx

33. Posted by Simon_Freejohn on December 5, 2008 04:28 PM

Mieke,

very Beautiful yet still obviously an interpretation...

When the observer and the observed are one... the sky is always smiling.. even when it is Grey and miserable.

"At the end of the road"

have you ever heard that?
"At the end of the road" or "at the end of the day" or "When all is said an done"

When you know there are no ends or alls; then you are all, then you are a master of the Cosmos like our wonderful soul Deepak.

Like Deepak says above "You need to be ready"

I Would add some thing to that "The time is now"

Deepak is a Master now there is no doubt about it I love him deeply and I really mean that and also I fear for him as he stands for the abstract in some places in the material realm.

In his mind he can not possibly know yet the stretches to which his voice has penetrated into the hearts of those in despair and need for a voice that speaks from a place higher than the Sun.

as soon as you try to understand simplicity it will mirror complexity which is the mirror of questioning.

Deepak is document of the next step into an era of divine realization...

"The time maybe now"

Love

Simon xx

34. Posted by Simon_Freejohn on December 5, 2008 04:29 PM

If You Dont eat or drink you will not be

at least you will not be in this earthly material bound sense...

If you eat/drink fuels that are processed, dead, Cooked till they are dead, Scorched untill their enzymes are wiped out, and eaten without anything that is alive remaining in them - then you will be as your food is.

What say you??

Love

Simon xx

35. Posted by Simon_Freejohn on December 5, 2008 04:39 PM

Hi Simon,

See my poem here #6

And:

http://www.heartphone.org/poem_of_the_stone.htm

And now am off, celebrating my husband’s birthday with my family. Children specifically asked me to make their favourite ‘Granny’ soup, containing lots of vegetables and little meat balls too, made with much love from the heart :)

Your view is perfect from where you are standing; I do respect that very much.

Have a good weekend!

Mieke

36. Posted by heartphone on December 6, 2008 04:31 AM

Hi Mieke,

Thanks for sharing the beautiful Poem and the painting..

Wish Frank many happy returns from me

Love
Simon xx

37. Posted by Simon_Freejohn on December 7, 2008 08:36 AM

grrrrrr.... too much sweetness and light around here on this thread....

LOL

38. Posted by Jane on December 7, 2008 11:12 PM

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