welcome to a new beginning! damn!

Every new beginning is some other beginnings end . . .

(I heard that in a song).

Arrr

the emperor stirreth! winter's chill envelpoe the firmament!

Nay dear friend.

The fiery firmament that encircles the heavens brings order to the chaos contained herein; humankind's final repose shall be Frosty sitting on Hades throne!

O yeah!

Hi Guys,

I read somewhere that this month it will be full Moon at 12/12 at the exact time of 12:12 :)

Told this to someone here and she said: well, then no doubt it is going to snow.

I looked here at the weather forecast and yes, they predict snow on the 13th December lol

Me am going on a walking holiday next week and have never made a labyrinth in the snow yet. Hope I can do that.

When successful, will put some pictures of it on my website.

As far as Typepad is concerned, I have sent the Admin of IntentBlog an email a few days ago with my contents of complaints to Six Apart, owner of Typekey and their reply to me, stating that the Blog Owners themselves could solve the logging-in problem on the template, contacting the Help function of Six Apart.

So far I haven’t received a reply yet and I doubt that I will get one.

As you have been able to read everywhere around this blog, everyone is invited to become a friend on their new site Intent.com.

I have subscribed there in the beginning and it was nice, but soon I started to feel nostalgia for Intentblog.

Intentblog was my first spontaneous experience with the phenomenon ‘blogging’ and it will be my last. It has been a great time.

Would like to wish you all very warm and cosy holidays and yes, each day is a new beginning, so make something of it :)

With gratitude and love,

Mieke

Happy Holidays to all @ IB! UT

One thingy remains
Light speed stays the very same
Happiness does not

mieke...

are u into numerology? damn!

Hi Diablo #9,

No, not really. My eye fell on an article I read on the Internet and, as I experience often, when telling someone else about it, receive a reaction, which is followed by an action lol and then everything seems to coincide :)

I am into the labyrinth and synchronicity :)

Mieke

Oh-Eh
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?rn=222561&cl=11027239&ch=1329521

#7/8

Wishing you all success with those surgeons, Keith.
May you stand tall and knot-less.
Do keep us informed, when you can.

Blessed be,
Ed.

``

Hi UT!

A blessed Holiday Season to you also, and to
everyone.

B

Well this has always been one of my favorite Christmas songs sang by Bowie & Crosby; I remember watching the Crosby Christmas Special (I think it was in 77') just to see Bowie!

Peace

Hi Everyone,
I haven't been able to sign into IB for quite a while. I have been 'rejected' so many times :-(

Hope this goes through I have missed sharing in the comments.

I love you all, this is a special place to me and has been for 3 years.

'tis the season to be jolly :-)

~ Kate

hi there Keith,
much love, care and hugs to you for your surgery!

I didn't get rejected this time
Hooray!

the emperor is quite a poet!

kate...

i think the bosses are aware of the promlem..let's hope they can fix it soon...it's quite a pain the ^&% to try to log on and stay logged on...damn!

something addressed to granpa from a dream traveler...shuuussshhhh

the multiple dabbler has gone from quoting CS to quoting JS...at least temporarily ...notice the weird color of the money up there? eeeuuuuhhhhh...

I never seen where Keith said he is going to have surgery??? Hoping the best for you brother!

Peace

granpa was referring metaphorically to the tree getting trimmed and lopped down for the onset of a long, cold winter...

LOVE RULES!

if u are feeling blue, remember there are millions of others worse off than u!

Hey! Yo! Thanks there, Craig!

Ho! Ho! No joke, it happens the 22nd of this month.

The procedure is called by this ghastly name:

Anterior cervical discectomy and fusion C5-6, C6-7 with anterior instrumentation C5-C7

Basically, I'm going to voluntarily let them slit my throat...just for starters.

It's just an overnight stay and I only have to foot 20% of the bill. Whoopie!!!

Recovery time is up in the air, depending on what he finds, feels and screws.

My 50th year has been a doozie, I wish I could tell yuz.

All's well that ends well, though, ya know!

I will attempt to keep my friends here informed. Okay?

Over and almost out of good bark, UT

Barkers naked stark
Slackers bent backwards foretell
Fortunes spent corkscrewed

Keith, I wish you the best.

IBD, why do you have to be such a dick?

You’re asking for that reminder again:

“I'm sorry you couldn't deserve more attention from me. Stop being a moron, and I shall refrain from pointing out your idiocy with substantial arguments and criticism and not just insult you by calling you out on that.

And yes, stop acting like a juvenile school yard whiny bully who cries and complains to his grown up teachers when the playground gets hot”.

Ed, Kate, Heath, Derek, Mieke, Bonnie, Craig, and Diablo and ?

Thanks for keeping me in heart, soul and mind!

From all of me2 all of you~~all for once~~upon a time~~UT

skeptisch...the spoon-bending freak...now goes by the name michel...whoa...

the IB Reject who can't get unuff of his guest's house...and who has no new story to tell...i guess he's kinda feeling burned that he gets called out on his imaginary annual trip to latin america to teach peasants carl sagan, instead of geography, science, agriculture...no..they are really eager to learn about a billion stars...gee i wunda whether he taught them in spanish, german or english...what a 'genius'....

friends of north...

mieke
kate
bonnie
ed
emperor
diablo
keith
ruth
derek
and that one?

north...please give us a shout-out!

Which site is more liberal?

the .org

click my name

or

the .com

ClkMynm

Google Maps System Captures UFO

Click my name

Up in the sky bits
Pieces of headless spirits
Comb for comfy fits

Yes

always brother

pax tecum

Oh, dear. Earlier, I wrote about Diablo's(IBD's) *intellectualism* regarding 911 and the western economic interests, a soul-shuddering thought if ever there was one, and it seems D took it to heart. He has replied with comments complaining 'Irvine Welsh Calls Me “Moron”'. D, D, D. You act shocked at the thought that one guy publicly stated that you were Mr Clueless Nutbar, but you shouldn't be. Millions of people, including some of the most knowledgeable economists in the world, think just about every day -- about people like you -- ...that you are an airhead, an ass, a blockhead, a bonehead, a birdbrain, a boob, a bozo, a chowderhead, a chump, a clod, a crackpot, a crank, a crazy, a cretin, a dimwit, a dingbat, a dingleberry, a dipstick, a ditz, a dolt, a doofus, a dork, a dum-dum, a dumb-ass, a dumbo, a dummy, a dunce, a dunderhead, a fake, a fathead, a fraud, a fruitcake, a gonif, a halfwit, an idiot, an ignoramus, an imbecile, a jackass, a jerk, a jughead, a knucklehead, a lamebrain, a loon, a loony, a lummox, a meatball, a meathead, a moron, a mountebank, a nincompoop, a ninny, a nitwit, a numbnuts, a numbskull, a nut, a nutcase, a peabrain, a pinhead, a sap, a screwball, a sham, a simpleton, a thickhead, a turkey, a twerp, a twit, a wacko, a woodenhead, and much, much worse.

You're a clueless schmuck who knows nothing about economy, history, politics, science and has arrogantly built an online persona of a control freak to promote your bullshit-— you should not be surprised to learn that people like you are held in very low esteem by the community of scholars and scientists, and by the even larger community of lay people who have made the effort to learn more about current events, science, reason and logic than you have and have improved their debating and critical thinking skills (admittedly, though, you have set the bar very, very low on that, and there are 5 year old children who have a better grasp of the principles of logic and reason as well as more mastery of details of any subject than you do.)

Maybe you should write a comment calling attention to each insult given to you. I think that's what you are seeking, and it's probably the intended mission for you in life, to inspire contempt.

PS: I encourage each and every one of Intentblog readers to express their true feelings about Diablo. Then I want Mr D to write an indignant comment complaining that "So-and-so called me a “disgrace to brain-damaged buffoons”", or whatever — that'll keep him occupied, and will distract him from his campaign of dumbing down the dialogue in this community and also his attempts to abuse those he doesn't like. Be creative.

Dear Irv, with your help, I think we might have a terrorist in the making. That's how it works, doesn't it?

wow...skeptisch...aka Irvine Welsh...aka michel, aka john, aka chris...the spoon-bending obsessor...the disdainful IB outcast...damn...now that u used a thesaurus to express ur true love for me...does it mkae u feel like a man now that u have released that monkey off ur back? whoa!

i hope it makes feel like swimming endlessly in ur favorite teaspoon...damn!

and by the way Irvine (Skeptisch) Welsh ...how does it make u feel that someone as clueless and as dumb and as ignorant as me can cause u so much grief that it makes ur BP explode thru the roof, that u have to use a thesaurus to help u find all those love words to describe ur emotions...damn...u had betta see a dermatologist about that thin swiss skin a urs...or u may bleed into oblivion...whoahahahahahahahaaaaaaawhoahaaaaaaaaaaa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b62txjUmBt0&feature=PlayList&p=60F34150CF3BF4EC&playnext=1&index=39

:)

Diablo,

Have you ever said anything positive on here about anyone?

LOL

Hi Kieth LTN Blog old friend.

Mieke I am going to record some more of my fathers music on the Piano soon for Christmas. I will send them to you as soon as I get it done

Love

Simon xx

That would be great Simon :)

I will surely fill my website pages with this most wonderful background music!

Seems up till now every song I used surely fits to the relevant pages!

Thanks a lot!

Mieke

:)

IBD writes: “how does it make u feel that someone as clueless and as dumb and as ignorant as me can cause u so much grief that it makes ur BP explode thru the roof…”

Some “statesmen” appear pretty clueless, dumb and ignorant and cause much grief in today’s world. Bush and Mugabe, to mention only a couple, come to mind.

Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe has said there is no cholera in his country and we all know why Bush went to war.

Faith is believing in something without evidence in the hope, and sometimes even the illusion of “knowledge”, it will eventually become the truth.

These guys need psychiatric help.

Michel, if you are Irv, I'm a terrorist!

Thanks Ed, we no you are not a terrorist.

Well, one may think you are. But most here at IB know, that one is not too well equipped when in comes to logic and clear thinking!

Please say hi to RD should you run into him. I admire the faculty of reason, and in my view, the author of ‘the blind watchmaker’ has plenty of it.

even a savvy witty granpa can fall into the devil's web, even a smart, charmin' granpa can display rank naivette...

skeptisch aka michel...who makes a living chastising deepak...can't seem to get enuff of his guest's house...while he drools over richard and charles and daniel and whoever else...

in this legend's mind...he's a dream scientist(in his dreams that is)...he might have acted quite differently if he were smart enuff to be a scientist or in the league of his idols.

can u picture this clown arriving at havana intl airprt lugging his carl sagan DVD player? his sole purpose for "going" to this impoverished latin country is not to teach them freedom, democracy, agriculture but about to tell them how many billions of stars are in the universe...as if they can't figure that out on their own...

yet.. he has no new, fresh vid to show about his "humanitarian" mission to cuba...instead he shows the same old tired one he's been showing for the last three yrs...where canadian students are in central america helping poor quatemalan kids..

hey michel, say, did u get a chance while u were down there (out of ur busy schedule) to hit the beach or dine on some fine, juicy mahi mahi?

LOL, you are nothing if you are not resilient,
dear Diab ;)

Lol Ed,

I like it...

Untill you are nothing then you will always be the limitation of impermenance..

When nothing is obtained then you wil know that you are everything..

Are the clothes you are sitting in you and yours?

In a million years - both what you hold as you and your clothes will be lost to some other idea of identity. Yet outside of material that which shapes identity will be here - it will be there..

Where are you and you clothes in all of that...

You are nowhere; No Thing; No Location, No time, No Name and no place.

Relationship to nothing (No Thing) is your relationship to the higher self and Ironicaly it is things that are the Abacus; The aparatus to develop relationships that can show a way past material relationship to spiritual relationships.

Literaly you have no time to learn this, because the lesson is happening outside of time. If you step outside of the classroom of materialism; you cant go backwards or forwards - you have to be ready to live there.

Love

Simon xx

where are u?

would someone please create and link us to a simple webpage with all you fellas' photos on it??? you don't really care about a little HPV, do you????

THANKS!!!!

I would rather stand in line for five minutes to see a donkey
than stand in line two weeks to see a horse

would someone please create and link us to a simple webpage with all you fellas' photos on it??? you don't really care about a little HPV, do you????

THANKS!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27s1vlmJ6-o

Hello, Simon!

What does LTN mean?

Anyways...hope your holiday season is groovy, man!

I look forward to seeing an e-mail from you and listening to

your father's piano pieces. Could you possibly re-post the old Christmas

montage you made for us here last year. I'd appreciate that.

One of these days I'll have to write another poem

that's somewhat appropriate for our small,

but viewing audience whom

we adore. UT

.

.

No where suits me2 a Tree

.

.

the multiple-ID troll has been asked to leave the party as an unelcomed guest!

UT i don't think simon knows what it means either...u know ole simon, he likes to sound like he's really smart...hehe!

hi Diablo,
are you excited for Christmas?

I am decorating tonight!

love,
~ Kate

yes katie..

i'm leaving on the 23rd for the caymans for xmas and can't wait...it's gonna be a party...damn!

hey 'til then, D
we will
continue to have
some merry
with a glass of sherry
;)

be sure tolook at the moon tonight
it is soo coool

~ Kate

```
Oh my gosh Kate!
I just took my dogs for a walk in the clear winter air just at moon rise. It seemed if I took a giant step,
I would be standing there on top of it.

Way kewl :)

B

Dear UT,

I will be thinking of you (on the 22nd)

I lost your email address; so instead, you will find a special picture on my website, which I will try to make in nature for real next week, during my (walking) holiday.

http://www.heartphone.org/labyrinths_in_nature.htm

You will have to scroll down to the bottom. Will make a new page with new pictures when I am back.

Love and best wishes,

Mieke

For your convenience Keith, click on my highlighted name.
I only found this possibility out recently, placing a website to the left of 'remember me?'Yes :)

http://www.heartphone.org/labyrinths_in_nature.htm

Hi Kieth,

Which one did I do last year?

Was it the one with Deepak on or the one about santa clause?

Love

Simon xx

This is not meant for the ever-present IBD and his crystal ball, mind you there is a good chance he will do what he does best anyway, make a complete fool of himself, again.

If there is anyone out there interested in a sincere conversation about Latin America in general and Cuba in particular, here is an American expert telling it like it is. Deepak and Gotham were doing the same thing in some of their resent blogs. That did not go unnoticed and is very much appreciated by many. What they all say is something like, “if we want to fight terrorism we have to start from within.”

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=GbEzWWXMAoY&feature=related

If you are unwilling to listen to the entire eight minutes go to 6:30. That’s where he is talking about Cuban Venezuelan programs restoring sight to many Latin Americans.

Hey Simon!

Looking back(however salty), I see that it was the Santa from 2006.

How time flies, eh? I tried the URL you posted back then, now it has a school pic on it.

I also see that I've been UT for more than a year now. So what? LTN?

Mr. Tree

Dear admin...be advised that #68 Michel aka skeptisch is not welcome here at IB...he has caused his host a lot of trouble since the site was created three yrs ago..he enjoys picking and ridiculing deepak...they have removed his privileges from posting here but he keeps popping up under various aliases...

Please keep him where he belongs...banished. If he wants to return he must apologise openly to the blog owner and grovel...damn!

Hi Kieth

LTNS Means Long Time No See

LTNB means long time no blog

I was just thinking that earlier today that it must be three years ago since I first came on here and the Blog had just started.

In 2006 I did two versions of the Santa Christmas Card and I ended up using the shortest version as far as I can recall. So I have uploded the longer version this year.

I Hope you enjoy watching it.

Merry Christmas to you all

Love

Simon xx

http://www.drdeepchop.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

"hey 'til then, D...

we will
continue to have
some merry
with a glass of sherry
;)" kate...

well if u say so, kate...here's toast to you with a fine chilled glass of sherry! damn!

Dear ol' pal, ol' LTBF, ol' IB'er, O Simon!

I've made it through your thoughtful poem,

and the lovely ol' antique Christmas pics,

but it has been stuck playing that song over and over again

for at least a half an hour now. Perhaps you might want to check on it. Okay?

Cheers! UT

Very warm today
Snow melt sends Santa skiing
G.M to sell boats

as oleman winter tightens his icy grip on the chilly landscape, there is an old tree stump sitting forlorne and lonely by a frigid riverbank, stirring...(:--------------:)

Achmed, the dead terrorist sings, "Jingle Bombs" (Jeff Dunham)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wskT6YfVB6E

Hilarius! Happy booming Holidays!

Michel, Irvine and others, ever heard of neoteny? That kinda explains Diablo's... condition.

Here's a resource:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny

"Neoteny, also called juvenilization, is the retention, by adults in a species, of traits previously seen only in juveniles[...]"

"There is controversy over whether adult humans exhibit certain neotenous features, or juvenile characteristics, that are not evidenced in other great ape species[...]"

Interesting...

"Bruce Charlton, Reader in evolutionary psychiatry at Newcastle University, UK, suggests that there may be such a thing as "psychological neoteny." Due to recent changes in culture, he says, “In a psychological sense, some contemporary individuals never actually become adults.[...]"

Ah, that's what I am looking for!

"I encourage each and every one of Intentblog readers to express their true feelings about Diablo. Then I want Mr D to write an indignant comment complaining that "So-and-so called me a “disgrace to brain-damaged buffoons”", or whatever — that'll keep him occupied, and will distract him from his campaign of dumbing down the dialogue in this community and also his attempts to abuse those he doesn't like. Be creative." 36

Obrien[aka Diablo]= Brain Damage

Sigh. When will neurochemistry give us a cure for him?

Look, I'm just a layman (laywoman?) and even I know Diablo's nothing but an addled creep too damn stupid to figure out how flipped out he is, and a miserable freak who loves company.

I just saw Slumdog Millionaire, a very sorrowful look at the lives of young slum children in India.
I recommend this movie highly, and am wondering if the police investigations and interrogations are as torturous as in this film. For a look at the story of the movie, Wikipedia describes the entire plot of the film, so if you do not want a spoiler, do not visit Wikipedia. I was shocked to read the entire movie there, but am warning viewers to stay away from it if you want to see the movie and enjoy it from beginning to end.

Having never been to India, I must say that this is not a glamorization of the country nor is it a travelogue. It is a story of children trying to survive against odds that are almost insurmountable. Truly a tragic story that makes even the attacks on Mumbai in recent days seem over exaggerated in importance in comparison to the plight of the truly needy in the nation.

The stark contrast between the poverty of the wretchedly poor and the very wealthy in the Hotel Taj Mahal makes one very unsympathetic to the extravagance of the Taj Mahal Hotel. It is easy to sympathize with those who struck at the rich and powerful when one sees the plight of the lowest echelon in that nation. The movie makes mention of Mahatma Gandhi in a way that is almost amusing. While the star of the Millionaire show knows readily the face on the American 100 dollar bill he does not recognize who is on a bill when it is Gandhi.

(I used to show a movie about Gandhi years ago in my classroom in California so it was amusing to me to consider that Americans probably know more about Gandhi than the poor slum children of India.)

The movie is excellent! It is peculiar to my mind that it is now being seen so much in approximation with the recent attacks on the hotels. Blaming Pakistan is probably not the smartest thing in the world to do...but it seems that Indians are forever blaming Pakistan for nearly all their troubles. An easy out, if you ask me.

Re. 80

"Blaming Pakistan is probably not the smartest thing in the world to do...but it seems that Indians are forever blaming Pakistan for nearly all their troubles. An easy out, if you ask me."

That's a flawed statement making an extreme argument of all-or-nothing kind. Context. Never miss the context while making black and white statements.

First Indians don't blame Pakistan for ALL their evils; social, political or economic. They do tend to blame Pakistan's intelligence organization ISI for MOST of the terrorist activities carried out in India for the past two decades. Moreover, there is enough substantial evidence(and the picture has clearly emerged, if you are following current events) that the Mumbai attacks were carried out by Pakistani nationals, trained in Pakistani terrorist camps and planned by Pakistani elements. (This angle is supported not just buy Indian sources, but also foreign sources AND also Pakistani independent media like their top tv channel GEO, their top Eng Newspaper Dawn.)

It's clear from your comment that your knowledge of India and Pakistan is limited and no wonder the social commentary of the Slumdog Millionaire challenged your accrued knowledge.

The anti-Muslim riots you see in the movie you metion, happened during 1992 after the demolition of Babri Mosque (Memorial to the Islamic Emperor Babar, who invaded India from his nomadic homeland of Iran/Afghanistan region and created the Mughal dynasty that ruled India from 16th to 19th century, which was later replaced by the British empire.)

The mosque in question was demolished by activists of a Hindu religious organization who claim that the Mosque which stood in the Hindu holy city of Ayodhya, birth place of Lord Ram, was build on a demolished temple marking the birth place of Ram. It is known historic fact that thousands of temples all across the Indian sub-continent were robbed and demolished by the Islamic invaders for over five centuries. In several cases temples are remodeled and converted into Mosques or the raw materials used to build mosques at other sites. What happened in 1991 was a mass movement by Hindu relgionists, aided by right wing political demagogues who upon unearthing a statue of Lord Rama near the mosque, wanted the Indian goverment to build a temple at the site. This led to tensions and one fine day the hindu activists, vastly outnumbering the security, demolished the Mosque. This led to communal intolerance and riots all across India(including Mumbai.) Many were killed; both Hindu and Muslim. When tempers run high, things go out of hand and riots happen, and no one can tell who STARTED the riots that tend to have a domino effect. So the point being, there were anti-Hindu riots too. But the movie in question has a muslim hero, therefore you see that mayhem in Mumbai from that angle. Actually, you should read the 2005 by Vikas Swarup "Q & A" on which this movie is based upon. In the book, the name of the protagonist is "Ram Mohammad Thomas"[Hindu, Muslim, Christian] HE DOESN'T HAVE A RELIGION! But I guess a muslim hero sells well to the western audience, that's why the change in the screenplay. Anyway, what ensued after the Babri Mosque demolition was further aggravated by the Mumbai serial blasts of 1993. Hundreds dies. Mumbai's stock exchanged was blown up by truck bombs. It was the first major sophisticated terrorist attack targeting the civilians in India.
The guy who helped carry out the atatcks is Dawood Ibrahim, head of Mumbai Mafia, and Indian citizen who now lives under government protection in Pakistan although India has been demanding his handover for years.

There's another charatcer, Azhar Mahamood who was released by India after Pakistani terrorists hijacked an Air India flight in 1999 and landed in Taliban controlled Afghanistan and exchanged the 100 or so hostages for him and a couple of other terrorists in Indian prison. He now lives in Pakistan without a trial, and carries out his operations in a safe haven that refuses to hand him over to India. Actually, there is a list of 20 persons now living in Pakistan who are wanted for crime in India, and Pakistan refuses to hand even ONE of these.

I think I am diverting form the atual point. The fact is a lot o Hindu-Mulsim conflicts have their roots in the partition of India when India gained Independence from the British in 1947. That was the parting gift of the British to India. Pakistan(Which included Bangladesh as East Pak, which later became an indpenent country) which included muslim majority regions of India chose to become a Islamic republic, while India remained a secular nation. BTW there are more Muslims in India than there are people in Pakistan.

"Partition was accompanied by one of the largest and most rapid population transfers in history, with 17.9 million people leaving their homes. Of these, only 14.5 million arrived, suggesting that 3.4 million went "missing".[4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India

Over a million Hindus and Sikhs and a million Muslims were killed in the ensuing chaos.

Kashmir, which has a Muslim majority remained a part of India after the ruler of the region joined the Indian Union.

Muslims in India, contrary to the picture an outsider might get watching the movie, are not specifically suppressed. There is economic disparity in the population, but religion is not it's basis. There are many poorer segments of Hindus, called Dalits who are poorer than the slum dwellers in Mumbai (who btw are both Hindu and Muslim, the character Latika in the movie Slumdog, who is a friend and love interest of Jamal, is a Hindu.)

--India's top Bollywood star for over a decade, literally worshiped by millions of Hindus and Muslims, is Sharukh Khan a Muslim (who grew up in slums, went to catholic school, married a Hindu and now rules Bollywood.) If you think he is an anomaly, no, there are at least 4 Muslim actors in the top 10, not to mention directors and producers.) BTW India's most clebrated music director of all time AR Rehman, the guy who gave the music to Slumdog Millionaire is a Muslim too.

--India's top software indutry, Infosys is owned by a Muslim.

--India's most popular president Kalam is a muslim.

--India's current Prime Minister is a Sikh, a minority (In the 1980s over 3000 Sikhs were killed in Anti-Sikh riots, far worse than any anti-muslim or anti-hindu riots.)

India is a complex and diverse place, where rich and poor co-exist, there are myriads of social and political problems but is also a land of rich culture and philosophy, and like life the engine still goes on.

Give my regards to Gran and Gramps, Diab. Watch out for the crocodiles, snap ;)

Pakistan doesn't share any blame in the Mumbai attacks!

News Flash!:

*"British PM Gordon Brown named Laskhar-e-Taiba militants as responsible for the Mumbai attacks, backing India's accusations against the Pakistan-based group."

*Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said the links between the ISI and the LeT were developed "in the old days when dictators used to run the country"...

*...The captured terrorist Kasab is my son, says his father in Pakistan. Villagers say "it's him!", sting operation by British journalists and Pakistani journalists reveal.

*...Captured terrorist reveals the terror plan and names in pakistan, asks for legal counsel from Pakistan govt.

No evidence, yeah!

"There is truth in the fact that when one plants a seed, one expects that when it germinates the root will go into the ground and sprout so that the seed that does not do that is what is known as a "dead" or "bad" seed. No root, no growth, and for centuries that is what the gay lifestyle appears to be, a lifestyle that is nonproductive."

"Marriage is a tradition and creates a social harmony, and there are many barriers in life..."

"While I am not opposed to laws providing rights to members of the same sex who live with one another, I do not like the term marriage to be applied to those seed who will not germinate."

35. Posted by arizonasunset on November 16, 2008

http://www.intentblog.com/archives/2008/11/im_heartbroken.html

Arizonasunset is a smug little hypocrite who tries to defend her opposition to gay marriage by arguing that a)it's natural and necessary for procreation (ignoring the fact that a childless marriage is still regarded as a marriage), b) it's traditional (never mind that marriage has changed greatly since biblical times), and c) that you can't redefine the magic word "marriage" (yeah, like language never evolves).

Wonder whether this wretched ignoramus may have abused the minds of young children in classrooms of California.

"I encourage each and every one of Intentblog readers to express their true feelings about Diablo. ...Be creative."

Oh very well. . .
Show me an idiot.
Now show me Diablo. But I repeat myself.
(Excuse me for paraphrasing Mark Twain, but I think he would understand.)

Preity has provided a wealth of accurate, balanced information that many Westerners have no awareness of.

As for as's comment on Slumdog, it's as ill-informed and personally presumptuous about India as a few past comments by others have been about the US.

We all have a lot to learn about each other and our respective general histories, present politics, cultures and spiritual traditions. It would be a great starting point for real debate and learning if we could all admit to that.

Those who have real knowledge of both sides of the globe have the option of leading by example.

Preity's comment is a perfect example of how to do it right.

Some people, I swear
Haughty others seek God's wrath
Ground slips, water falls

Here's another Mark Twain quote for you, V:

"Good breeding consists of concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person."

Howdy, Tree.

It's enough for me to take one person at a time, in their complexity, Heath.

Hi, Heath & Ed!

Gave blood Friday for pre-op exam.
Saturday they said, "Come! Urgent problem!"
With fretted brow and wonder's worries, I went back.
Some part of me measured above the healthy norm.

My potassium was high? Bananas?
"No. Daily bananas are not the culprit."
"Roll up your sleeve." Turning away, I felt little.
"We'll call you in a couple hours and let you know."

A couple of hours later...

"Within range," said the Doc. "Faulty test. Don't worry."

Yeah, right! I say, "Uncle!"

Truly open kinds of comments might have said things like:

Here is my opinion on Slumdog Millionaire and what it seems to be telling me about India. Some of my thoughts are based on the coverage in American news sources, which don't tell the whole story often, I know. I don't know much about India, and if anyone could give me more information...

or

The person commenting on Slumdog Millionaire seems not to understand India very well. Here is a more balanced picture...

I can understand V's anger, and I think there was some seething going on in Preity's comment too, though I'm basing that opinion solely on her few uncharacteristic typos. I completely get how apparently arrogant as's comment reads. But really, it's ignorant, not arrogant. It's based on ignorance that doesn't know how ignorant it is.

See, the news we get is amazingly biased.

These days, I check NYTimes and Times of India, on every international story that interests me, just to get a starting idea of what's going on.

The same for films I want to see, when they have international releases.

'Cause I know I don't know it all, nor does anyone else.

And news sources (and our school textbooks) have their built-in and market-driven biases, so they're never going to give me the whole truth. I try to work out a reasonable facsimile of same on my own, using multiple sources and discussion.

Hey, Ed. I know you know that Twain quote is satirical.

Heath et al

You 'might' be surprised to read this Pakistani perspective on Mumbai attacks and terrorism from Dawn newspaper(Pakistan for all it's anti-democratic regimes, one must say, has one of the most unbiased media.)

It is well worth reproducing here:

Life in a parallel universe
Irfan Husain
Saturday, 13 Dec, 2008

"IF you do a Google search with ‘CIA + RAW + Mossad + Mumbai attacks’ as your parameters, you will get about 51,200 results.

"So clearly, there are thousands out there who have developed elaborate conspiracy theories to explain who was behind the recent terrorist atrocity in Mumbai. Some of these theories have even appeared in the letters column of this newspaper. Sadly, Hamid Gul, the ex-head of the ISI, is one of the chief proponents of such hare-brained theories. The fact that he rose to become a three-star general makes one wonder about the promotion policies prevalent in our army.

"It would seem that millions do not accept the evidence available, and are seeking to fit in the attacks with their world view in which nothing is as it seems; where we are all manipulated by forces that pull the strings from behind the scenes; and where we are ultimately helpless to change anything. In this parallel universe of smoke and shadows, reality shifts according to your point of view, and there is no such thing as objective truth.

"Over the last week, my inbox has been flooded with at least 300 emails regarding the last two columns I wrote about the Mumbai attacks. I have been attacked for being naïve, as well as a traitor. But I have been supported by other readers for calling a spade a spade. So clearly, there has been a very strong reaction to the gruesome events across the border.

"I had suggested that many Pakistanis are in denial about the extent of the terror networks active on our soil, and the threat they pose to our country. And while we have become accustomed to the growing mayhem they cause within our borders, other countries are not going to put up with their activities when their citizens are slaughtered by them. Despite the conclusive evidence that the recent attacks were launched from Pakistan by Pakistanis, many angry readers have asked me for proof. Others have accused me of betraying my country. Luckily, most of these diatribes have been poorly worded and argued, thus absolving me of the duty to respond.
Nevertheless, it is a matter for concern that so many Pakistanis are simply not willing to face the truth. For unless they do, they will not demand the change of policy and direction that gave birth to these terror groups in the first place.

"However, it is important to remember that Pakistanis are not the only ones given to spinning elaborate conspiracy theories to explain the most straightforward events. For example, millions are convinced to this day that the 9/11 attacks were caused by the CIA and/or Mossad. I even came across a guy who said the Japanese were behind the attacks to avenge the atomic bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Millions believe that Princess Di was killed by the British secret service at the behest of the royal family because she was going to marry a Muslim.
Most of these fantasies are harmless parlour games that occupy people with lots of time on their hands. But when a country emerges as a focal point for the global jihad, and people across the world are killed as a result of this terror campaign, clearly responsible leaders are duty bound to take action. And if the leadership of the country concerned is unable or unwilling to act, what is the rest of the world supposed to do?

"In our case, the establishment responds to international opinion and pressure by pleading that Pakistan is the biggest victim of terrorism, as President Zardari has said in a recent op-ed piece in the New York Times. This is certainly true, but what are our leaders doing to crush the monsters we have created ourselves? Surely it is not enough to elicit sympathy for our victim status without doing something to change it.
Since it is not easy to close our eyes to the reality of terrorism in Pakistan, given the grisly toll it exacts almost daily, many Pakistanis find all kinds of reasons to explain and justify it. These range from Palestine to Iraq to Afghanistan, and are seen by both right and left as a legitimate response to western attacks on Muslim lands. Closer to home, the conflict over Kashmir is used to legitimise the actions of groups like the Lashkar-i-Taiba.
What many Pakistanis forget is that these terror groups are more lethal for us than they are for other countries. How, for example, would the LeT have furthered the cause of Kashmir by vicious attacks on soft targets in Mumbai? The fact is that in purely tactical terms, the killing of innocent civilians does not gain any cause any support.

"The ongoing crackdown against a handful of known terrorist leaders and groups will, I fear, result in little except to divert foreign pressure. We have seen that in the past, the same suspects were picked up for brief stints in jail or house arrest, and released as soon as the crisis was over.

"One problem that we do not examine closely enough is the fact that since Zia’s destructive decade in the 1980s, a climate of religious extremism has come to dominate the national agenda. In this environment, a generation of Pakistanis has grown up thinking it is perfectly acceptable to persecute religious minorities, marginalise women and kill in the name of Islam.

"It is this acceptance of an extremist mindset that has created limitless space for terror groups to thrive in. Add to this outlook the disputed border with Kashmir and the porous (and also disputed) frontier with Afghanistan, and you get a scenario for sanctioned mayhem. The final ingredient in this lethal cocktail is a tottering economy that is simply not capable of generating gainful employment for millions of young Pakistanis.

"But the rest of world is not interested in these problems. It wants Pakistan to crack down on terror groups now, and put them out of commission. However, given the lack of a national consensus and the political resolve needed to combat this menace, it is difficult to see the PPP-led government taking strong action, especially if the army is not solidly onside.

And here’s the rub: for over two decades, the military and our intelligence agencies have been using many of these militants to fight their proxy wars. Many retired officers have developed personal and ideological links with the groups they handled while in uniform. To expect all this to change overnight is to demand too much of the fledgling democratic government."

http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/pakistan/life-in-a-parallel-universe--qs

Lol.
What makes me want to defend sunsets?

I don't know what edge went into AS's post.This is interpersonal and maybe an act of charity towards Diablo. Okay, it's me who is complex, ;)

Yo Heath, you're hot on the returns of service these days, and succinct! You know I love you :)

Keith, whooooooooaaaaaaaaa! safe in their hands, I pray :)

Re. 36

I have been watching from the sidelines for too long Mr. Welsh, now I feel obliged to step in to douse the hate. I find it truly unthoughtful from your part to call Diablo a jackass. Sir, a jackass has a practical purpose, Diablo does not. This proud member of the equidae family does laborious work in farming nations such as mine, Peru. I find it repulsive that you have equated a jackass with the waste of matter which Diablo is.

So please, lets be a little more thoughtful for the animals.

Tiger, that's a good article, and it draws practical conclusions. Yet I hope Zardari doesn't have to fall back on any excuses. Leadership is about change from the top down, not being pointman to past mistakes. I wish him all the luck he needs, and he will need a lot, to be the leader his Op Ed article in the NYT a few days ago seemed to show he could be.

Ed, it's looking to me as if IB has become a place of international political discussion over the past year or so. The discussions bend towards tolerance and cross-cultural learning, yet the wrestling over ideas and positions can sometimes be fierce, an unusual combination in political discussion these days, it seems.

Tree, you will be good, as ever.

Methinks Mr. Diablo is a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

"You act shocked at the thought that one guy publicly stated that you were Mr Clueless Nutbar, but you shouldn't be."--IW

My grandfather would have called him Ignat. Or Ignut. I don't know where he got those terms, but I always liked 'em.

I'm leaning toward Ignut. To go with nutbar.

Sacred Clowns Holy Fools is the title of a new book of poems by Steve Toth and Dave Morice.

The title is apt to both sides of the ridicule this weekend, hai na?

:D

Anyway, click on my name, or paste in the link below, to find out how to order it on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001KS6NTI

I haven't finished it yet. I've only been reading Steve's poems, and I'm not even done with them. But some of them are gems. If you like Steve Toth's work, you'll find this publication worthwhile.

Frank Rich's column:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/opinion/14rich.html

Complex issues, very well presented. Rich is, for my money, one of today's best satirical political writers.

How a Woman Becomes a Goddess: Amaterasu
by Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

November, 2004: After watching exit polls all day with growing excitement, my hopes came crashing down as Dubya Bush was inexplicably re-elected. Close Senate races, one after another, went to wingnuts like Jim Bunning, Tom Coburn and John Thune. Howls of right-wing triumphalism echoed across the country. Karl Rove and Grover Norquist trumpeted about a "permanent Republican majority." I wanted to go hide in a cave.

November, 2008: Barack Obama’s triumph was matched by victories in the House and Senate. Hopemongering was (and is) in the air across the country. I couldn’t join the party. In the midst of all that, the voters in my state snatched away my marriage rights. I wanted to go hide in a cave.

So I turned to Amaterasu Omikami, a Goddess who hid in a cave.

The Japanese Amaterasu and her brother Susanowo had opposite temperaments, perhaps because she was the sun Goddess and he was the storm God. Their conflicts came to a head when Susanowo went on a drunken rampage, destroyed Amaterasu’s rice fields and threw excrement in her temple. Then Susanowo killed a colt, flayed it, and hurled it into the room where Amaterasu’s women did their weaving. The carcass shattered one of the looms, and the flying pieces hit some of the women, causing fatal wounds.

How a woman becomes a Goddess: sometimes, by what she doesn’t do. Instead of confronting Susanowo, Amaterasu shut herself in a cave, blocking the door with a stone. With the sun hidden away, the land was plunged into darkness and cold.

The impact of Amaterasu's absence was greater than anything else she could have done. The other 800 deities swiftly brought Susanowo to justice, punished him and cast him out of heaven. But Amaterasu remained in the cave, overwhelmed with her anger and humiliation.

The 800 deities huddled around a fire outside the cave, trying to come up with a way to lure her out. First they brought gifts of jewels and hung them on the trees. On the nearest branch, they hung a special gift: the first mirror ever made. But how to get her to come out and see?

Ama no Uzume, the goddess of shamanic trance, declared that they would throw a party. But no one was feeling very festive. So the elderly Uzume climbed onto an overturned wash tub and began a comical, erotic dance. She mocked sacred rituals. She did a bump and grind. She -- oh, no, she didn’t!

Oh, yes, she did.

Uzume yanked open her kimono and stripped for the crowd.

Inside the cave, Amaterasu heard laughter. Gut-busting, pee-your-kimono laughter. Her curiosity was aroused. Roaring cheers rose higher and higher. Finally, in spite of herself, she just had to know what was going on. She pulled the stone aside just a crack, just enough for the first sunbeam of dawn to peek out.

The sunlight reached the mirror, and Amaterasu saw her own face for the first time. She moved closer, and stepped outside the cave. Somebody quickly blocked the entrance behind her with a magic rope.

Amaterasu saw Uzume, whirling around naked on the wash tub, and she laughed. And she joined the party.

With the winter solstice approaching, it helps to remember that the longest night will eventually end. The sun will come back, slowly at first, and the earth will be restored in light.

When we were fighting Proposition 8, I left it all on the road. I phone banked for hours, handed out fliers, wrote checks, went to visibility demonstrations. I got yelled at, cursed, and flipped off. I spent Election Day standing outside a polling place with a "No on 8" sign. Some guy walked by with his dog, loudly comparing our relationships with marrying the dog.

Like so many others, I gave this fight everything I had. And on November 5th, I woke to the sound of sobbing from the person I love most in the world.

There were demonstrations the next day, and on the weekend. I didn’t go. Those events were important, but I -- normally a cheerful, even-tempered person -- was just too damned depressed.

I post on a "general" politics board, one that runs the gamut from lefties to wingnuts. I jokingly refer to myself as the "ambassador from gaydom," as I’m the only uncloseted queer who posts there regularly. I think it’s important that GLBT voices are heard in places like that, and in fact one person told me that I’d changed her views on GLBT rights. I haven’t been able to drag myself over there since the election. Not just because of the wingnuts, but because of the condescending types who tell me I shouldn’t take it personally, they just had to "protect" marriage, and anyway I can have a domestic partnership and that's just as good. (They, of course, would never give up their own marriages for domestic partnerships.)

Today’s event is "A Day Without Gay." GLBT people and allies are encouraged to take off work or school, spend no money, and work for equality-related causes. The idea is the same as Amaterasu's retreat into the cave: doing something by doing nothing. The absence of GLBT people would make the world a very dark, cold place.

I have my doubts about "buy nothing" events (they just shift retail spending to a different day), but I’m participating anyway, as a gesture if nothing else. Tonight there’s a community meeting to discuss the next steps toward marriage equality, and that will be my first step out of the cave since the election.

Amaterasu was lured out by the power of laughter and joy. Progressives and GLBT people are fortunate that we’re about the most joyful communities you’ll ever find. We can laugh in the face of adversity because we’ve seen so damn much of it. That’s why progressives have Stewart and Colbert, and conservatives have "The Half Hour News Hour." (Actually, they don’t anymore. It was so unfunny it was cancelled.) No wonder right-wingers keep harping on their victory over marriage equality; if they paid attention to the rest of the election results, there wouldn't be a cave deep enough to hide them.

I can’t say I’m feeling joyful yet. But I know the solstice night will end, and that first sunbeam will peek out of the cave, and I’ll take a look at Uzume and say, "OK, there’s gotta be a good story here," and I’ll feel like joining the party.

Every time I write one of these meditations, I reread familiar stories and find new aspects. Well, not really new: they were there, I just didn’t see them. I tend to think of the story as ending when Amaterasu stepped out of the cave. But of course she asked about Susanowo, and learned that he had been banished. And, realizing that he would be back, Amaterasu took up her bow and two quivers of arrows to defend herself.

It’s time to pick up my bow and arrows for the struggles to come.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/10/91228/853/820/671419

Nasruddin used to stand in the street on market-days, to be pointed out as an idiot. No matter how often people offered him a large and a small coin, he always chose the smaller piece.

One day a kindly man said to him:

- Nasruddin, you should take the bigger coin. Then you will have more money and people will no longer be able to make a laughing stock of you.

- That may be true, said Nasruddin, but if I always take the larger, people will stop offering me money to prove that I am more idiotic than they are. Then I would have no money at all.

- - -

One day Nasruddin repaired tiles on the roof of his house. While Nasruddin was working on the roof, a stranger knocked the door.

- What do you want? Nasruddin shouted out.

- Come down, replied stranger So I can tell it.

Nasruddin unwilling and slowly climbed down the ladder.

- Well! replied Nasruddin, what was the important thing?

- Could you give little money to this poor old man? begged stranger.

Tired Nasruddin started to climb up the ladder and said,

- Follow me up to the roof.

When both Nasruddin and beggar were upside, on the roof, Nasruddin said,

- The answer is no!

- - -

http://www.afghan-network.net/Funny/1.html

(or click my name)

Diablo couldn't get a clue if he were standing in the middle of a field of horny, naked clues, wearing an adults' blues clue costume doing the clue mating dance.

Some interesting facts about Mumbai attackers...and the Slumdog Millionaire.

The guy who was captured alive was one of the two who was caught on CCTV cameras killing people indiscriminately in the busy Mumbai subway (CST/Victoria Terminal.) This is the same location which appears prominently during several key moments in the movie and where everyone burst into a dance number(bollywood/old hollywood style) during the end credits. The 20 year old terrorist along with his accomplice shot people indiscriminately, knowing very well that Mumbai has a heavy Muslim population compared to rest of India. Hindus were not their targets, but Indians/India(it's economic stability including) were.

The captured terrorist Kasab has revealed a lot of information on how, an uneducated, unemployed youth turned into a lowly thief who was indoctrinated by the extremist recruiters to carry out their agenda.

One interesting story that came out was that Kasab had a two wishes and a request during his co-operation with the interrogators in India. One was that he wanted to watch Amitabh Bachchan movies and other is that he wanted meat everyday. (Both were not granted as per guidelines.) His request was that he wear his own clothes and not the prison clothes, which was grated. It is the only pair he had which he washed daily himself.

The point I want to make is that although he was indoctrinated by the extremists and hateful ideology, he still loves Indian movies, and specifically Amitabh Bachchan movies. The star is also known as "Big B".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amitabh_Bachchan

He is the same star who is mentioned in the Slumdog movie; the scene where Jamal recollects, as a seven year old, he wades through shit, literally, to get the priced autograph. Amitabh Bachchan ruled the Bollywood in the 70s and 80s and early 90s. He is a legend. (Westerners might find it difficult to understand the fan following for movie stars in Indian subcontinent. Many movie starts in India went on to become hugely successful politicians.) Sharukh Khan (also known as King Khan) took the mantle from him. Big B is above 60 but is still active and stars in movies. Bollywood movies are very popular in Pakistan. They are freely available in cds and dvds, and on cable tvs, but are officially banned in theaters for years. Only recenlty the govt. of Pak has allowed some movies to release in theaters, during the recent peace talks and some amount of calm in the past few years. Amitabh Bachchan is a Hindu, but is very famous in Pakistan too. Sharukh Khan is a Muslim but popular in Hindu majority India. So, really ordinary people in India and Pak are not much divided by religious beliefs. You don't see religious riots happening everyday on the streets. There is a lot of tolerance AND acceptance AND respect of others' beliefs in India than anywhere else in the world assuming that there is a comparable extent of scope and diversity at all levels.

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"The 20 year old terrorist along with his accomplice shot people indiscriminately, knowing very well that Mumbai has a heavy Muslim population compared to rest of India. Hindus were not their targets, but Indians/India(it's economic stability including) were."

I saw pics of Muslim women in burkhas and Muslim men with long beards and tradition garbs(close enough to see that they are a Muslim wedding party waiting for a train) shot down at close range by the terrorist.

This attack was clearly on India (which includes Muslims, Hindus, foreigners who have business in India, jews in/visiting India, and economy) although it has been achieved by brainwashing young, hopeless, purposeless people in Pakistan.

it appearslooks the multiple-ID reject is all invigorated from excessive indulgence in his favorite teaspoon swims...wow! he sure must feel real large now!

wow...now he has resurrected some of his dormant alter egos to do a gang-up job on Big D...little does he know that it ain't gonna work...this audience is far too savvy to know that you are all one and the same loser under the lame guise of many...the blog owner is fed up with u that is why u can never log in as skeptisch again...

i hope u make an appointment to see a doc soon about the growing ulcer u have worked up in ur weak, futile, childish smear campaign of retribution.

hey michel, u can go back swimming now... do as many laps as u want in that spoon to ur little heart's content...eeeekkkk........

One of the most interesting and tragic things about India's history is the 1947 partitioning. I can't think of a single reason for it except a fear that an unpartitioned India might grow to be too strong too fast. Am I right about this, or is there a deeper story I need to know?

merry xmas to u, heather!

dick's sidekick, the coward from texas, has made another secret trip to baghdad...whoa!...i wish he would show some courage/balls and announce his trip to his created war zone! let's see how tuff he is!

How I became a leading GOP thinker in 30 days
by Lupin
Sun Dec 14, 2008
Daily Kos

Right after the election, the Redstate folks set up a new website/forum called Rebuild the Party - A Plan for the Future.

The message was clear:

"Use this forum to post your ideas about how we can rebuild the party. The best ones as voted by the community may be incorporated in the plan we deliver to candidates for RNC Chairman."

Being the bipartisan person that I am, I figured I would play too, and decided to post a modest idea.

[more under the fold]

* Lupin's diary :: ::
*

So this is what I posted:

" embrace science.

I want us to become the party of science again: embrace evolution, stem cell research, genetics, space exploration. the future."

I happen to be a fan of the late Heinlein. I grew up on Analog and the plucky spirit of the American engineer who believes in science, technology (and, yes, God, too) and triumphs over odds, still resonates with me, and is part of my personal mythology.

(I also recall that Mr Heinlein warned up about the fate of an America dominated by religious tyranny in his classic IF THIS GOES ON.)

Therefore it was easy and heartfelt for me to recommend that the GOP should embrace science again.

A month later, this simple idea now ranks No. 8 out of 1400+ submissions, received 675 votes (hence its ranking) and generated 435 comments, more than any other idea, except No. 1 ("Reach out to Ron Paul").

I am now on my way to become a leading GOP thinker.

Here is my analysis:

On the one hand, the number of votes my idea received is a clear indication that a large numbers of GOPers do want to return to a reality-based platform. I suppose that is a good thing for all of us.

On the other hand, and that is the disturbing part, the idea has generated a large number of comments fiercely anti-science. As I said, it is the 2nd most commented upon idea.

Here is a sample:

"Understand that science is just an extension of the culture lived in at the time it was put forth. Today we have people wanting to break free from religions grasp, so you see science created to establish reasons we are not tied to an Almighty and, therefore, His accountability. It is a cultural evolution, if you will, that science is anti God at this present time."

"When science can scientifically prove that the 'Theory of Evolution' is really fact, and not just a theory....oh wait, they can't prove it because it has zero validity to it. So I'll believe in my God, and you keep thinking your related to a chimp and we both vote for fiscal conservatism. Sounds like a plan."

"By the way, so much for your fossils and biology and DNA and geology and "evidence", I have a grade school-level understanding of science and a Bible. You know it's true because it's been written down from THE OLDEN TIMES, and not in some pantywaist hoity toity "Journal"."

And my favorite:

"Embrace science? Whose science? And why?"

There are a few voices of reason, for example:

"Half of the republican platform is built on rejecting science and the difference of perspective of those who do accept it. Bringing science into the right in a major way will just split your parties base off. Your problem here is that you need to remediate your base, not pander to them."

and:

"OK, this has degenerated into hogwash. Aside from the absolutely stupid comments, there's nonsense. The comments here represent the worst of philosophy masquerading as knowledge. THIS is what the GOP has to dump! E.g., "one needs to reject the present forms of naturalistic Darwinism," or "I'm not denying climate changes...I'm just stating its direction." I quit."

But by my rough estimate, the sane folks amount for roughly 25%, maybe 1/3rd, of the comments. The anti-science opposition steadfastly refuses to concede an inch.

This is a good polaroid shot of the huge ideological divide that is tearing the GOP. The ranking of my idea does show the desire to move forward toward a more reality-based platform, BUT the forces of reaction and obscurantism are fighting tooth and nail against that.

I will let you know if anything happens next.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/14/5113/4116/351/672921

If anyone needs help insulting Diablo, you can get some from that master insulter of the english language: The Bard:

http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html

irv...ur hair is wet...u forgot to use a towel after u stepped out of that pool...i mean teaspoon! damn!

"One of the most interesting and tragic things about India's history is the 1947 partitioning. I can't think of a single reason for it except a fear that an unpartitioned India might grow to be too strong too fast. Am I right about this, or is there a deeper story I need to know?"

Well, in away yes.

The British mastered the Divide-and-Conquer and Divide-and-Rule playbook and their successful empire was a testimony of that fact.

"In politics and sociology, divide and rule (derived from Latin divide et impera) (also known as divide and conquer) is a combination of political, military and economic strategy of gaining and maintaining power by breaking up larger concentrations of power into chunks that individually have less power than the one implementing the strategy. In reality, it often refers to a strategy where small power groups are prevented from linking up and becoming more powerful, since it is difficult to break up existing power structures."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule

Long before India gained independence, the idea of a separate Muslim state was propagated among the Muslim leaders, wit their own justifications by selling the idea of the fear of a Hindu majority rule where they would remain a second class citizens. This communal differences which peaked during the 1930s is said to be one of big reasons why India gained Independence only after the second world war when the British were too weak economically to hold on anymore.

"The British employed "Divide and Rule" in British India as a means of preventing an uprising against the Raj. The partition of India is often attributed to these policies [1].

In his historical survey Constantine's Sword, James P. Carroll writes,

"Typically, imperial powers depend on the inability of oppressed local populations to muster a unified resistance, and the most successful occupiers are skilled at exploiting the differences among the occupied. Certainly that was the story of the British Empire's success, and its legacy of nurtured local hatreds can be seen wherever the Union Flag flew, from Muslim-Hindu hatred in Pakistan and India, to Catholic-Protestant hatred in Ireland, to, yes, Jew-Arab, hatred in modern Israel. [Ancient] Rome was as good at encouraging internecine resentments among the occupied as Britain ever was." [2] "

#113 wiki reference fro "The British employed "Divide and Rule" in British India as a means of preventing an uprising against the Raj. The partition of India is often attributed to these policies."

^ The Partition of India
http://www.english.emory.edu/Bahri/Part.html

Diablo is like a stress hormone - it increases your blood pressure to a dangerous level upon binding to the glucocorticoid receptor in the brains of normal, logical people. Science is still to find an antagonist to Diablo.

#113I think you've nailed it, Irv. I've heard that said by oldie uk colonials who 'had to' come home.

Diablo is a giant doodie head. That is all.

Oh hey, I never drew those obvious parallels in other countries! Thank you.

Happy holidays, Irish.

Irv, only things you care about can touch you deeply.

Happy Ed, holidays.

# 106
Irv, you are doing all the work and I get all the credit!
The world ain’t fair.

"Methinks Mr. Diablo is a few fries short of a Happy Meal." --Chris

The burger happens to be missing as well. And the toy's broken. Hey, the napkin's still good though (albeit pointless without the rest).

"Methinks Mr. Diablo is a few fries short of a Happy Meal." --Chris

http://www.brownielocks.com/insults.html

Lots of similar funny put downs...enjoy.

Why would anybody ask for the banning of anyone who, like most of you, has an honest and sincere conviction about reality? That conviction is different from yours and says that there is an explanation for everything and we don’t need to pretend to know things, for example that there is a god, or a flying horse or seventy-two virgins if we blow ourselves to bits.

More and more people all over the world at least consider that we don’t need to ascribe anything to supernatural causes, and what we can’t explain now will have a perfectly natural rationalisation in the future.

This maybe very different from your own personal experiences, but shouldn’t we be able to have a conversation about that?

"Irv, you are doing all the work and I get all the credit!
The world ain’t fair." -- Skep

If the Irish dud can't even differentiate A from B, I wonder if he can think of divide... Ed rules!

"Why would anybody ask for the banning of anyone who, like most of you, has an honest and sincere conviction about reality? "

This idiot's miserable campaign to ban individuals he doesn't like is a real low. I could at least appreciate his attempts to woo back a/some person(s) who left this blog albeit on their own accord to not return. Perhaps it's his guilt consciousness in abetting the creation of a toxic environment, or his constant need for attention from anyone who says a kind thing or two to him.

Seriously, Michel, in answer to your question, yes.

Y'know, my view is that the two perspectives are well on the way to agreement....just a few more low walls to be dismantled.
I'm a middleman, myself! I sit on the fence! I like the choice to be able to see both ways but sometimes I go boss-eyed! And the neck, too, have to remember to balance out the clock-wise and the anti-clock-wise. Do you believe in time Michel....

#112 I think there's a natural reason for the shortage of french fries. Potato blight?

Lol missed that bit in the copy and paste.

Diablo is a transitional living form. He's halfway between a flaming a**clown (not to say he's gay, its just that the few functioning neurons he does have are vibrating madly with cognitive dissonance) and a gyrating white whale penis-eater.

Diablo is a clean intellect vacuum. He has the mental capacity of a comatose kelp, and the dignity of an incontinent clown.

Diablo is a moonbat. His presence in this country has lowered the average IQ by at least 30 points.

Dibalo, you are a snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings! Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type makes me puke, you vacuous, toffee-nosed, malodorous pervert!!!
Stupid git...

No insult or collection of insults can suffice in describing Diablo. Therefore, I propose we use the term "Diablo" as the most abysmal insult and expletive that can be hurled at another human being. Imagine saying "Diablo you!" to the next jerk that cuts you off in traffic.

#122 I think there's a natural reason for the shortage of french fries. Potato blight?

Seriously, Michel, in answer to your question, yes.

Y'know, my view is that the two perspectives are well on the way to agreement....just a few more low walls to be dismantled.
I'm a middleman, myself! I sit on the fence! I like the choice to be able to see both ways but sometimes I go boss-eyed! And the neck, too, have to remember to balance out the clock-wise and the anti-clock-wise. Do you believe in time, lol?

Hmm, this is where being a Brit may come in handy -- descriptive terms for the truly stupid may differ considerably across the pond. So:

Diablo is a buffoon, a dim bulb, a gormless pillock, a donkey, a knuckle-dragger, a pratt, a vegetable, and a wet smack.

He is also two sandwiches short of a picnic, off his trolley, out to lunch, and as daft as a brush without any bristles.

Diablo's stoopid beats up your stoopid.

You're a jerk, Diablo. A total kneebiter.

Diablo is a mountain of smelly bloody batshit crazy.

Wow. Insults from around the world. Here's some very Northern Irish insults. He's a dunderhead, an eejit, a dirty hallion and a gobshite. He should "catch himself on".

From north-eastern England: he's a dangleberry, a tag-nut, a winnit, a shit-for-brains.

From my Australian husband: he's a sticky-beak and a dag.

Ooh, this is fun!

Diablo lacks intellectual curiosity.

Say it loud!

Diablo is a contemptible douchebag!

Say it loud!

The World's Nine Most Devastating Insults at Cracked, here they are:

http://www.cracked.com/article_16275_9-most-devastating-insults-from-around-world.html

what do you think the odds are that SRK will direct as he gets older? I think 100%.

Ah, love, so sweet.

Based on Diablo's writing, he is (as far as I, a Welshman, am concerned) more toop than an jack, more dumb than a box-full of chisels, a complete twonk, a charmless nurk, a first-class plonker, a muppet, a space-cadet traveling on the express to Barmy Army barracks with a one-way ticket. He has bats in his belfry. Somebody is seriously eating his lunch in the local mental hospital.

Aw come on, you know he's a good writer.

Did you know it can take up to two and a half years to develop the story for a film? Now I don't feel so bad about not yet having finished my first book.

Hey, when you attack others, third parties come to their defense. So is that the effect you're trying to engender, baby?

When editing, keep in mind: continuity continuity continuity.

Have you gone off to research some more insults, or have you realized how silly you were?

well, well...

the multiple-ID IB reject (and all his invented selves) can all jump into that woderful pool...ooops teaspoon), and do a little syncronicity...the smelly waste matter can really pretend that he's practising for the summer games, whoa!...just like his imaginary trip to cuba to teach carl sagan...now picture this "intellectual nitwit, ninny" gleefully lugging his DVD player thru havana intl airprt to teach peasants about sagan's stars...wow...like the cubans are so blessed, so fortunate to have this 'genius' visit their homeland!

Happy holidays back, Heath, strange, that hasn't caught on over here. It's always Happy Christmas and Happy New Year, but not this early. Is that normal to be in advance in US or is it now the online thing? Someone wished me Happy Thanksgiving a week in advance. Wassat! That might catch on, but, of course we do have the churchy Harvest Festivals.

Happy Holiday, Diab, never mind the intellectuals ;)

Over here, we're sensitive to the start of Channukah (22 Dec this year), which can be as early as two weeks before Christmas. Our holiday season start is commercially defined by the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. The lovely street fragrance of balsam firs, and other for-sale evergreens, starts in the first week of December in NYC. It used to be that people bought their trees the week before Christmas, and decorated them on the Eve, but that ritual has moved forward to mid-month, and earlier, in the past decade or so.

Happy Holidays to you and yours...Edmond! Cheers mate!

it's so damn funny, that this IB troll, outcast (staring in the headlight)...thinks so highly of his tiny, puny self and so "outraged" at Big D...that he would go to extraordiary lenghts, using his odd, sordid invented selves, thinking he's fooling this savvy audience, to try to rile cool D...alas the laughs on this piece of T%^d.

Consideration for the day:-

"The poet doesn't invent. He/she listens"

Jean Cocteau

"they" all appear and disappear at usually the same time...hmnn...how delusional, how twisted, how sad, how pathetic!

Religion in schools to go God-free
Michael Bachelard
December 14, 2008

VICTORIAN state primary school students will soon have an alternative — religious education lessons taught by people who do not believe in God and say there is "no evidence of any supernatural power".

The Humanist Society of Victoria has developed a curriculum, which the State Government accreditation body says it intends to approve, to deliver 30-minute lessons each week of "humanist applied ethics" to primary pupils.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/religion-in-schools-to-go-godfree-20081213-6xxs.html

"Up to date, the Cuban Medical Brigade in Pakistan counts on 789 doctors, more than the half specialists and with experience in natural disasters. Forty-four percent of the doctors are women. Moreover, the Cuban Medical Brigade counts on 315 paramedics, all university graduates or technicians; and 128 back up staff, out of whom 80 are engineers and technicians mainly in electro medicine and whom work in the setting up of the medical equipment.

Seventeen field hospitals have been already deployed and another 13 already arrived and are under the process. These hospitals are equipped with the latest high tech to provide surgery, ultrasound, electrocardiogram, x-rays and clinic laboratory services, among others.

These hospitals are located in the areas most affected by the earthquake such as: Balakot and Muzaffarabad, and the coldest regions such as: Banna Alai, Maira, Thakot, Beshan, Gahri Habibullah, Hattian, Danna, Battal, Jared, Abbas Pur, and Oghi.

Our doctors also work with deep self-sacrifice in 7 evacuee camps, another 4 Pakistani or international field hospitals and in 4 hospitals of the healthcare network of the country."

The preliminary results of the Cuban Medical Brigade assistance are as follows:

· 60 000 patients were assisted.
· 2 000 surgical operations were performed.
· More than 200 people were saved from the imminent risk of death.
· The communities assisted were declared free of epidemics risks, and now count on a universal and systematic medical coverage.
· A preliminary diagnosis was concluded with the purpose of launching a rehabilitation, prosthesis and orthopaedic service that will cover all the needs of the abovementioned population.
· A medical survey is been done to initiate an ophthalmologic surgery service to return eyesight to people in the affected areas suffering from cataract, palpebral ptosis, pterygium and diabetic retinopathy, among others.
· There is a project under further process to be presented to the Pakistani authorities regarding crash training of specialists in the field hospitals for 4th to 5th year students of medicine.
· The Cuban Government has decided to offer a wide and free medicine scholarships program for young Pakistani from rural communities.
http://www.canadiannetworkoncuba.ca/Documents/Pakistan05.shtml

That is great news Michel. The US has a long way to go to reach the education standards of UK and Australia.

***

Sunset at the Fireswimmer Lookout

Orange swells rush to meet the nearly full moon,
Sweeping over rarely seen rocks exposed by the super low tide*
Ribs festooned with kelp, water surging and pounding,
Subsiding and shimmering,
Ah, this.

*It does not detract from the wonder of the situation to understand that there is a very low tide every month at sunsettish around the full(& new) moon. This month's full moon happened to be at perigee, so was unusually strong in both its gravitational charms and brightness.

The same moon which had pulled the water westward away from the rocks was now rising in the east. Figure that out.

#149
One assumes that the word 'God' won't even be mentioned in such a curriculum....unless some bright kid asks.
One needs a definition in order to reject it, ie atheistically. For me it is a matter of finer distinction and since young kids may not be ready or able, I'm not too fussed what side of the spectrum of humanity is used to get them started, as long as it remains open-ended to the vast unknown of self-exploration.
It's those damn walls again, Michel, whoever puts them up.

# 53
“It's those damn walls again, Michel, whoever puts them up”.
So true, Ed.

Here is a thought.
It is remarkable as well as somewhat worrying how great minds, past and present but especially the philosophers, had trouble with agreeing on language.

The great Spinoza was no exception and might even have been worse than most in that respect. But he does get credit for one of the great definitions of God, one few intellectuals will and can disagree with. Even Einstein said: 'I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings?

The fine-tuning of the Universe is still a huge puzzle to science and the idea that God reveals himself in the laws of nature is a very agreeable one. It is however very disagreeable and even dishonest when ‘Spinoza’s God’ is presented as the one in the bible, the Koran or any other religious book. How cheap is it to smuggle in a supernatural, omnipotent deity when Spinoza is talking of the exact opposite?

Why not accept reality and live in it with all its splendours before we all go back to where we were before birth?

Sorry, should read # 153

#154"......not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings?"

You mean He/She is lazy, hazy, like me! Thank you so much, Michel. Read my lips. When I joke I am deadly serious.

"God moves in a mysterious way, his wonders to perform."
We can, and we will bring 'him' down on our way up.
Science2

The restless ousted IB outcast keeps soliloquying continuously in his luaghable, puerile attempts at convincing the ten true regulars here that his many sordid, phantom selves are somehow magically different. If this madman is sincerely seeking psychological treatment, this is definitely not the place to get help. He would be well advised to check himself in at a creditable Canadian institution. Bleating off endlessly where he's not welcome cannot possibly be of therapeutic value for his ever worsening condition!

damn...whoahhahahahahahahahahahaahwhohaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa...........

My goodness Diablo, your crystal ball gives me credit for the apparent worldwide abuse you took the other day.

Why do you have to be such a dick?
You’re asking for that reminder again:

“I'm sorry you couldn't deserve more attention from me. Stop being a moron, and I shall refrain from pointing out your idiocy with substantial arguments and criticism and not just insult you by calling you out on that.

And yes, stop acting like a juvenile school yard whiny bully who cries and complains to his grown up teachers when the playground gets hot”.

all that "socalled" abuse i took in defense of ur sordid sorry ass self came from ur pity ass who is still delusionally convinced that u are many...dude...do u really believe anyone believes ur f*&^%$& bullshit? seriously...damn!

asks skeptisch...#159..."Why do you have to be such a dick?" what, are u jealous (that u don't have one)? whoahahahahahahahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.............

Baby D...you really are an idiot, aren't you?

flabs...have u had some mahi mahi lately?

Reminder:

"Diablo, when you talk about sex, or women you remind me of some twelve year old virgin, who hasn't a clue what he is saying and is trying to sound good in front of his mates at school.

Clean it up Bud!"

--The Hairy Monster xx xx [Posted by Simon_Freejohn on May 15, 2007, Open Thread 74]

mini...are u on speed, girl/boy?

fyi...mahi mahi is a fish and flabs knows what am talking about...obviously as mini as u are u need to get out a the third grade before u start messing with the big boys...perhaps if i had asked the fat dude if he had had his two dozen Dunken donuts for the day...u might not have mistook it for sex...damn!

Better get you idiotic head out of norm's ass and bury it permanently into your's. I, like skinny/norm/flabs, was responding to your juvenile post #161.

From D K Matai :-

we would like to paraphrase Shakespeare's Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, Act II, scene II: "What a piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals — and yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me — nor woman neither, though by your smiling you seem to say so."

Nice poem by AR via heath in the last OT

AR, Steve Toth are regulars at the Tea House (Chaikhana), others like Dick(Dark-nite?), jm...post regularly over there:

Poetry Chaikhana Forum Forum Index -> Sacred Poetry Conversations
http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/Forum/viewforum.php?f=1

The poetry is not necessarily all sacred, religious or spiritual type, it's actually quite... "normal" and about all subjects...

Another interesting character toombaru, a long term accomplice of Anna joined Poetry Chaikhana a month ago. Nice to see him post and discuss. His thoughts are less poetry more prose even by free verse standards. I thought it was teh reason he didn't post at Chaikhana previously. Anna and toom I think started their own list/group, given they are voluminous posters and are not always welcome at other places if unchecked. toombaru is one of my favorites.

Here's a recent post by toombaru, a simple though, on a topic discussed here in current OT, that has caused some good "conversation":

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What is homosexuality?

It's obviously quite natural.

It occurs throughout the world.

Do you suppose that it might be an indication that love is not driven solely by the biological compulsion to reproduce the genotype?..........

.....That maybe love transcends the biological-mechanical arena.....

That seems to make sense to me.

toombaru
http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=7563&highlight=gay+marriage
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mini...is that a statement of ur laughable, stunted condition, skeptisch? at least u are honest to admit ur pitiful shortcummin' ...damn!

A nobel prize-winning physicist as energy secretary.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/36190859.html

Science returns to Washington in a big way with the appointment of Dr. Steven Chu as Secretary of Energy.

Watch his acceptance speech along side Obama:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l84b7UQ9bUk

He actually used the phrase "scientific leadership!" Now that is the kind of change we need.

have u no shame, john?

An open letter to Diablo.

Dear Diablo,

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. Don't you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you. You are a bloody nardless newbie twit protohominid chromosomally aberrant caricature of a coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum and I wish you would go away.

You're a putrescence mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating fool, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

If you aren't an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.

And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.

On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.

The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

P.S.: You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, Byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, abrasive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, clueless, and generally Not Good.

Sincerely, Mani

Happily an accurately plagarized from http://www.ultimateflame.com/

have you ever sought love thru the classified ads, skeptisch, mani, irvine, john, chris, freayja, the dot, et al? and have u expressed an intense interest in, and preference for, oriental women?

Just replace oriental with latina and that explains your sexual projections, you pervert.

#172 Irvine...now that u have used a thesaurus to vent ur frustrations, does it make u feel like a man, after all? and btw, irv, have u forgotten to go out for swim in that favorite teaspoon a urs today? caution, make sure if or when u do, u don't venture out into deep waters...u could drown.

Irvine, It is so unfair that you used up "all" the words in thesaurus. You forgot the obvious "fuckhead". It should go somewhere in the F's.

Allow me to add the following:
fucknut
jamoke
dingwad
Dildous stain
jabroni
buttwink
staggeringly dense
mental dwarf
guanophrenic paranoiac
lower form of plant life

and of course

not worthy of serious consideration

Diablo is a pathologically chronic colostomy fetishist, by which I mean he is a sad sack of shit who is in love with himself.

Diablo, you are a pointless little twit.

Allow me to express what *I* think of Diablo:

Q: When you cross Diablo with a donkey what results?
A: A retarded donkey.

all of u worms are one and the same...u are so f&*^%^& demented that u are obviously incapable to notice that u ain't fooling no one but ur sordid, delusional, pathetic viral self!

#168 Hello Scotty, yes, Heath gave us the link, great forum to go to when one gets fed up with the poetry here!
Tell me, any idea who re-posted the early work of our goddess AR?

Love one another, eh? Entranscend. Gotta go!

Why doesn’t the IBD seek knowledge, enlightenment and peace? It would make him less bitter? Mind you it would also mean he has to leave that personal level he operates on. That does not seem to be in his chemical make up.

When has he last posted something that would indicate he can actually think, evaluate and reason? So few people support him now, and those who do appear to do it out of pity?

Get help Diablo before it is too late. You are much worse now then when some of us suggested psychiatric help a while back. It could be you are in a wheel chair now or are otherwise handicapped? In that case I apologize for my remarks but urge you to seek help.

Merry Christmas to all and to my old “pen pal” Norm, I hope Santa brings you some of that good old Canadian Whisky and a big box of Che Guevara’s weed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara

Ed, keep driving that hazy, lazy sedan. It is going to slow to hurt anyone and that is just fine.

Mr. Welsh, it is always good to read your well-researched articles along with your own comments no matter which blog you post them on. You make more sense in one sentence than IBD will in a lifetime. Sorry Irv, I seem to get all the credit again.

By the way, there is a better than even chance that IBD is mentally handicapped which does not permit him to operate above a personal level. It would explains his obsession with display ID’s.

Feliz Navidad to all my Latin friends, especially the Catrachos, Guatemaltecos y Cubanos.

From a great American to our infirm and bamboozled friend:

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the new bamboozles rise.)”

Michel, Irish is a sweet-hearted, creative man who doesn't deserve your continual insults. As bright as you are, you diminish yourself with this "teasing", and thus prove you're as stupid as the rest of us sometimes. And when he winks and sticks out his tongue at you, you throw four cricket bats at him. That is not just stupid, it's unfair, and again, you diminish yourself.

It is now the holiday season for three of the four major world religions. Why not give it, and the rest of us, a break, and put your scintillatingly brilliant, creative self (no sarcasm here) to better use in any other way. I write this out of love for you.

blessings and love to you
and
blessings and love to all

-- h

Michel gets it in the neck again, lol.

Heather is one of the most naturally intelligent bloggers whose deep writing is always inspiring, creative, informative and classy.

Ed is also one of the great and diverse thinkers whose merry, disamring nature is a treat to the human spirit.

Ut is a humble man who uses irony to make his point.

The two amigos are intrinsically good people who tease and get teased without resorting to vile, mean-meanspirited, umprovoked attacks.

Together, these individual represent the soul of this arena.

On the other hand, there is a multi-ID oddity who represents about 50 operational display names, as if one i not sufficient to convey his one-dimentional, Saganistic thoughts across...who is delusionally convinced that his many fake IDs are somehoe nominally real and different. May God have sympathy on this bitter, loveless man.

Merry Xmas, all!

Titan, the hazy shrouded moon of Saturn, displays tantalising evidence of isee volcanoes, say scientists.

Why not you, Michel?

Diablo, keep up the good work!

Sachin? Now we may see the picture developing. LTNB, eh?

Santa's multiple personalities ride sleighs, forsooth.

Siberian reindeer on snow-topped mushrooms lead the way to heaven.

Elves will fix thrown shoes at midnight near to the sole-fired burning bush.

Duck! Snowballs on UT

Broken, because "class" is in the eye of the beholder.

Tongue-tied ill-defines the meaning of "good taste".

Palatable are screws when sweetened with honey.

Swallow it and stomach it...or spit quietly.

Yo Keith,
that's meat crackling on a spit... 'appyteasing!

Screws are irony, lol. I think you meant it ;)

Who can see the vast repertoire in those your pointed lines? British Rail needs you.

Crow's nest and golf balls, bastards!

i am just me
fan of tree
want him to be well