With all the negative and fear-based coverage in the media these days, it is refreshing to see a headline focused on gratitude. Thanks...

dear DK,
It is a wonderful day to celebrate life and all its blessings in every form - and
that which is invisible too
(thoughts on the beams of light)
:-)
love,
~ Kate

Hi DK,

Will you take over IB?

Lol this rhymes :)

Much love,

Mieke

Hi DK,

Thank you for that. I am going to work on putting my mind there as well and ask that my thoughts be guided it is a challenge to keep them positive. It is very difficult to do when under great duress as the rainy day funds come to an end here. The events of the world are challenging us to grow, evolve, and seek. All I can do is try to focus on creating value.

As your Gayatri chant popped up I just happened to be reading Sermon on the Mount by Emmet Fox which our friend Yasuhiko reminded me of the other day so I went and pulled it out and set it upon my desk to read periodically, it is always a great re-minder. I was just being reminded by it that our outcome is determined by the thoughts we entertain and dwell upon.

As I look upon the world and it’s darkness, I am seeing points of light appear which will grow to consume it.

I have written in the past about stem cells being produced by the body and that this can be stimulated, and I have written how depression is not really a disease and that anti-depressants actually suppress a natural process that serves a purpose. Now yesterday I see both of these concepts being conveyed on New Scientist, where some experts are now also questioning and investigating new approach. Someone else reported that they heard advice from a doctor not to use NSAIDS (fever reducers) unless the fever gets really high. So the truth and insight is spreading at last, creating the awareness comes at great cost to this one I hope something comes to make one whole again.

Yes, perhaps some of you could vote this up. I posted it on change.gov and within about a second someone voted it down. Now who in their right mind would do that? The top items here will become part of the Obama agenda.

"The End of Disease Universal Health not Disease Care"

Click my name to vote.

Is it that bad of an idea? Within about 2 seconds it was voted down 10 points. Now less than two minutes it's down -70, are they paying people? It means 7 people voted it down.

DK, you're a true IB treasure! Thanks for sharing this; for the longest time, I've been meaning to look up the meaning of this ubiquitous sloka .

Dis-ease is a very important part of our evolutionary advancement.

You cant have ease without dis-ease and you cant have dis-ease without ease.

Our outcome is indeed determined by our thoughts
but what we need to know now is that
our thoughts too are determined by something else
we are simply not in the picture
(if we think so
it is our ego speaking)
and Gayatri mantra is a device
to keep us reminding of this fact

In youth
thoughts of love come to us
we dwell on such thoughts
we could not do so in childhood
nor post youth
so what determines our thoughts
obviously the age or phase we are in
or what sends us through those ages or phases

In DK's words it is clear
whatever we are is because of
Supra Universal Conciousness
which is why we are grateful to It
the same feeling, according to DK
is rightly conveyed by Gayatri Mantra
our prayer is just to keep our consciousness on this
to keep our ego in check

Harb (sorry if anybody should feel inconvenienced)

Hi Harb,

In my view dis-ease disappears the more one feels at ease with it.

Isn't that what Yoga is all about?

One is able to send warm feelings to one's body, to one's cells and the healing process starts spontaneously.

And the only thing needed for this is breathing.

For me this works already for 30 years. I hardly have seen a doctor in those 30 years.

I guess I am an exception?

Well, of course am very grateful for this!

But I discovered this by myself and not by reading a gita or something.

One can in my humble view only speak of this when one truly had an experience in this respect.

Mieke, you are absolutely right. This is a state of ease beyond dis-ease and usual ease. You accept both because you know that both are working for your evolutionary advancement. And when you accept a thing it has done its job and is already gone. This is the state to be finally arrived at.

You may occasionally have to go to the doctor, usually to fix some out and out physical damage if it has happened, or to get some painkiller if it has gone too far, but that does not alter the basic story.

After the experience you have had at the age of 34 and once it has established in your being you write Gitas rather than read already written ones. The ultimate Gita is within and once having realised it within, and seen the without with respect to this realisation all Nature is Gita without too. You are engulfed by Gitas within and without.

Harb

By the way Mieke et al, you may try the following to visit intentblog: http://www.intent.com/blog/2009/01/13/ot

LB has done a great job for the ease of intentbloggers who want to remain in touch at intent too without much searching within intent pages. Just open it directly, sign in and lo you are sort of at intentblog! With photos of Ibloggers to boot.

hi Harb,
It is very nice to see you here ;-)

How many of the steps in DK's comment # 9 would you eliminate as 'unnecessary'?

Perhpas the way to Knowledge of greater things is to enjoy each stage in life, and by exploring and learning - what works and doesn't.

Life .... worry doesn't work. Eventually one can drop worry as an arsenal of tools which is unable to bring Life change.

Better it seems to me, to be present to each moment, allow its expression, and celebrate Life itself as a wonderful gift, to be embraced, to be cherished, to be Loved.... Yes all this and more

~ Kate
Have you any advice or examples?

love you very much, dear Harb!
~ Kate

Dear Kate, nothing is unnecessary, everything is as it should be.

Enjoying each stage is good but keeping the goal in mind is also necessary otherwise one can go astray at any stage. Perhaps my duty is to keep reminding of the goal as well as against DK's which is to keep reminding the stages.

Your comment makes me smile!
You are wise dear Harb

Dear Harb,

Thanks for replying to me here.

I was a member for a few weeks at Intent, some time ago. But I read so many Gita's there that I decided to unsubscribe again :)

Thanks to your encouragement, I did write my own Gita lol at my own website.

Once, I wrote here somewhere on an Open Thread that I lost my heart to IB. Well, it has become quite an addiction which I will have to see as a dis-ease and take care of myself in a gentle way, slowly fading out...........

I still have one intention, but it's time has not yet come. Perhaps when it is, I will fade in again..........

With love,

Mieke

Try this beautiful Sanskrit prayer:

Lead me from ignorance to truth

असतोमा सद्गमय। तमसोमा ज्योतिर् गमया।
मृत्योर्मामृतं गमय॥

[Aum] Asatoma Sadagamaya
Tamasome jyotir gamaya
Mrityorma Amritam gamaya
Aum Shanti Shanti Shantihi

(Brhadaranyaka Upanishad 1.3.28)

Translation from Wiki:

[Aum] From ignorance, lead me to truth;
From darkness, lead me to light;
From death, lead me to immortality
Aum peace, peace, peace

Here's my interpretation:

Untruth and darkness indicate the condition of self-ignorance.

Truth indicates seeing the way things really, which seeing comes about through self-knowledge.

Light indicates that my own true nature 'shines' by its own light, and indeed 'lights up' the world of phenomena. My nature is self-effulgent,
self-shining.

Death means taking myself to be the body which perishes And immortality means the recognition of myself as unchanging consciousness.